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  1. [32:57] * arachnid wonders where to find barrel jacks on element14
  2. [33:02] <arachnid> Dox: Here's the long and the short of it:
  3. [33:08] <arachnid> - App Engine changed billing model
  4. [33:18] <arachnid> - App Engine released the Python 2.7 runtime, which supports multithreading
  5. [33:35] <arachnid> - The only way NUMA is financially viable for me to run is under the 2.7 runtime
  6. [33:56] <Dox> Oh, thanks, i was wondering why python was the answer
  7. [33:57] <arachnid> - Someone (probably me) needs to port NUMA to the Python 2.7 runtime, which also requires moving to the HR datastore
  8. [34:09] <arachnid> Well, it's already running Python. This is just a newer version of it.
  9. [34:26] <arachnid> Further, the code that generates map images can now be run on App Engine with Python 2.7, so it needs to be rewritten in Python
  10. [34:41] <arachnid> Unfortunately, I have very little spare time, and even less of that I want to spend on NUMA, to be a bit blunt.
  11. [34:46] <Dox> Okay, just a thought, but could you ask the pythin forums? or i could?
  12. [34:52] <Dox> python*
  13. [35:12] <arachnid> There aren't really "Python forums", but your chances of finding someone who's happy to put in tens of hours to rewrite a site that they've never heard of before are effectively zero.
  14. [35:25] <Dox> Okay
  15. [35:30] <arachnid> The only way this will get done is if I have the time - which I will attempt to find - or if someone from the NUMA community who knows Python is willing to step up.
  16. [36:57] <Dox> Okay, one last thing, if the cost of the thumbnails was the issue & you turned them off, why does the site still go down? Is it the plugin sidke made that generates thumbnails?
  17. [37:52] <arachnid> I turned off the thumbnails because fetching them was consuming much of the available runtime; I figured it was better for the site to be up longer with no thumbnails than less with thumbnails
  18. [38:02] <arachnid> I don't know of any plugin; I wrote the thumbnailing code myself, long ago
  19. [39:43] <Dox> http://forum.ninjarobotyeti.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6739
  20. [39:59] <Dox> There are browser plugins that effect NUMA
  21. [41:24] <arachnid> No, it's a piece of server-side code that generates (okay, generated) the thumbnails
  22. [41:44] <Dox> Okay, so those plug-ins don't effect it?
  23. [43:31] <mcnutcase> The word you're looking for is affect.
  24. [44:41] <arachnid> I'm sure they affect NUMA for the users that have it
  25. [44:50] <arachnid> They have no effect on the running of the site
  26. [45:00] <Dox> Okay
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