Freenode_Cryptsy_Febo_Spoetnik

Session Start: Sun Jun 26 07:28:36 2016
Session Ident: Febo
[07:28] Session Ident: Febo (freenode, Spoetnik) (Febo@89-212-219-142.dynamic.t-2.net)
[07:28] <Febo> hai
14[07:29] <Spoetnik> I'd rather talk publicly eh and hi ;)
[07:29] <Febo> I think this is so strange you can talk publicly latter
[07:29] <Febo> ther eis guy named davidlaplate on monero irc
[07:30] <Febo> and he uses same net provider as you do
[07:31] <Febo> i thoght you are duch he is franceh
14[07:31] <Spoetnik> Febo you know i am not David Latapie LOL
[07:32] <Febo> i suspect so
[07:32] <Febo> but not sure now
[07:32] <Febo> join monero irc and chacek
14[07:32] <Spoetnik> You pm'd me at Bitcointalk mentioning teh guy liek last year or so roughly
14[07:32] <Spoetnik> ya and have them ban me ? LOL
[07:32] <Febo> davidlatapie   clcik on him and select Whois
14[07:32] <Spoetnik> liek Etehreum did ahhahah
[07:32] <Febo> ?
[07:33] <Febo> oh
14[07:33] <Spoetnik> You can see my proivider ? i am cloaked eh
[07:33] <Febo> nooen wil bane you dont worry
[07:33] <Febo> i have no ideas
[07:33] <Febo> it says same for both
14[07:33] <Spoetnik> he is prob cloaked too
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik is ~Spoetnik@unaffiliated/spoetnik * ...
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik on #Cryptsy
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik using wilhelm.freenode.net FR
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik is logged in as Spoetnik
[07:33] <Febo> Spoetnik End of /WHOIS list.
14[07:33] <Spoetnik> you know what that means right ?
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is sid76186@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyqwmrehtijojwkd * David Latapie
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie on #monero #monero-dev
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie using wilhelm.freenode.net FR
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is away: Auto-away
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is using a secure connection
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie is logged in as davidlatapie
[07:33] <Febo> davidlatapie End of /WHOIS list.
[07:33] <Febo> no i dont
[07:34] <Febo> but
14[07:34] <Spoetnik> which it says is random ..90% of peoepl just hit connect tehn you get a random server
[07:34] <Febo> Febo is Febo@89-212-219-142.dynamic.t-2.net * ...
[07:34] <Febo> Febo on #monero #monero-dev
[07:34] <Febo> Febo using rajaniemi.freenode.net Helsinki, FI, EU
[07:34] <Febo> Febo is connecting from *@89-212-219-142.dynamic.t-2.net 89.212.219.142
[07:34] <Febo> Febo has been idle 23mins 4secs, signed on Sun Jun 26 13:45:01 2016
[07:34] <Febo> Febo is logged in as Febo
[07:34] <Febo> Febo End of /WHOIS list.
[07:34] <Febo> yes posible
[07:34] <Febo> i am nto from helsinki
[07:34] <Febo> but i am nto cloaked
14[07:34] <Spoetnik> that is the user ip + server IP connected to eh
[07:35] <Febo> first line matters
14[07:35] <Spoetnik> my private IP is hidden ;)
14[07:35] <Spoetnik> my server is random when connecting
[07:35] <Febo> so you are for anonimity i guess
14[07:35] <Spoetnik> i am from Canada but have Dutch grand parents
[07:35] <Febo> gut
[07:35] <Febo> Canada is waste
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> i figured if i am on IRC i might as well make it harder for Trolls to coem after me LOL
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> by getting cloaked
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> i have doennothing else to be anon
[07:36] <Febo> you ahave all right, altho what you dont want to haeppen to you you shoudl not do to others.
14[07:36] <Spoetnik> agreed
[07:37] <Febo> lol
14[07:37] <Spoetnik> and don't make it easy for them LOL
14[07:37] <Spoetnik> lock your door
[07:37] <Febo> yes, actualy this net shit is scary.
[07:37] <Febo> i had no idessd how can trace peopel before joined bitcointalk
[07:38] <Febo> and pictures and deleted forum postst, ...
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> you should get cloaked if you are on IRC a lot eh
[07:38] <Febo> why lol
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> if they want o get your IP they still can but..
[07:38] <Febo> what woudl happen if someoen know my IP?
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> at least youa r ento making it too easy for "them"
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> i don't know DDOS you ?
[07:38] <Febo> i use IRC for games
[07:38] <Febo> lol
14[07:38] <Spoetnik> soem hackers have botnets eh
[07:39] <Febo> steal my comp. yes lol.
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> naw
[07:39] <Febo> is slow but also 4 years old.
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> block you from using the internet
[07:39] <Febo> so they dont get much
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> you get flooded
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> you know how to get cloaked ?
[07:39] <Febo> yes is posible so i wil be abel to do soem houseworks
[07:39] <Febo> no i dont
14[07:39] <Spoetnik> LOL house work
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> i do my share too ;)
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> esepcially when the internet is nto working LOL
[07:40] <Febo> it is wize to hide identity so peopel liek you dont chase you. taht is all.
[07:40] <Febo> i am nto afraid of flooding or ddsos
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> all you do is go to the main freenode channel and then ask them nicely
14[07:40] <Spoetnik> just say "can you pelase cloak me, thanks"
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> that is it.. done
[07:41] <Febo> realy?
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> yup
[07:41] <Febo> but i mostly dont use freenode
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> #Freenode
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> connect..
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> ask.. wait.. done
[07:41] <Febo> i will ask soem IRC pros about it :)
14[07:41] <Spoetnik> ofcourse you need yoru name registered though eh
[07:41] <Febo> games i paly mostly use Rizon
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> ahh ok
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> ya diff network system
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> diff type of IRC
[07:42] <Febo> i am here only for monero chanel and was on eth when coudl not set mist valet
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> i don't do IRC much eh
[07:42] <Febo> but nooen helped there anyway.
[07:42] <Febo> is ancient technology
[07:42] <Febo> lol
[07:42] <Febo> i used it long ago.
14[07:42] <Spoetnik> no.. no one ever has any help on ETH channel i noticed
[07:43] <Febo> then when started play oen game few years ago teh ysaid we have irc chanels i said. wtf
[07:43] <Febo> before we used msn or skype
[07:43] <Febo> yes
[07:43] <Febo> is diference. devs tehre get paid
[07:44] <Febo> well my problem was i did nto had snced my internet time. it dont auto i have no ideas. took me half year to figure out.
[07:44] <Febo> thatsi what i liekd of Monero
[07:45] <Febo> people help.
[07:45] <Febo> buti am sure is also at other coins.
14[07:46] <Spoetnik> Well the guys involved with making & pushing Monero have been a problem sometimes going back 2 years
14[07:46] <Spoetnik> I takle it you did not help LAUNCH Monero ?
[07:46] <Febo> no
[07:46] <Febo> i joined bitcontalk forum about that time
14[07:46] <Spoetnik> well Monero has been out 2 years or so eh
[07:46] <Febo> and after few weeks found altcoins part and picked monero
[07:47] <Febo> and mined it a bit with cpu so not realy. mined liek 10 in half year :P
[07:47] <Febo> yes
14[07:47] <Spoetnik> well you know they called it Bytecoin then forgot there already was a Bytecoin out right ?
[07:47] <Febo> i know all of Monero, well at least what is out of sea.
[07:47] <Febo> bitmonero
14[07:48] <Spoetnik> You get what i said ?
[07:48] <Febo> i play games seriously so i learn.
[07:48] <Febo> no i di dnot it seems
[07:48] <Febo> when i foundmonero was allready monero
14[07:48] <Spoetnik> they started with that name first..
14[07:48] <Spoetnik> then chanegd names later..
[07:49] <Febo> that guy that lounched it namet is bitmonero
[07:49] <Febo> after a month was changed
[07:49] <Febo> you ever were on that cryptonote forum?
14[07:49] <Spoetnik> it was also a commuity take over
[07:49] <Febo> yes
14[07:49] <Spoetnik> nope.. never
[07:49] <Febo> since taht guy did nto talk
14[07:50] <Spoetnik> Community take over is always suspicous
[07:50] <Febo> i was posting misives there some time
[07:50] <Febo> since that guy did not cooperate
[07:50] <Febo> they wait for him on IRC but he never showed up
14[07:50] <Spoetnik> isn't it funny he never commented again after that ?
[07:50] <Febo> as i understand they suspect he was part of Bytecoin and those Cryptonote
[07:50] <Febo> tehy aparentyl lounched more coins
[07:51] <Febo> like that hmm
[07:51] <Febo> Q
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> wouldn't it seem more lieley the dev simply changed names ? LOL
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> likely*
[07:51] <Febo> as i said
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> people DO that..
14[07:51] <Spoetnik> You kno wmy big problem with Monero ?
[07:52] <Febo> guy that started bitmonero coudl be of taht group
[07:52] <Febo> your problem is Risto
[07:52] <Febo> if you have problem
[07:52] <Febo> or you just want to have fun anoy people
14[07:52] <Spoetnik> well oen i don't think ANON is a good idea.. but there is a bigger problem
14[07:52] <Spoetnik> Honesty
[07:52] <Febo> but
[07:53] <Febo> who is more honest then Flufypony?
[07:53] <Febo> of devs
14[07:53] <Spoetnik> in 2 years they HAVE at tiem sbeen guilty of not so good behavior.. but.. They will NEVER admit it !
14[07:53] <Spoetnik> Do you see what i mean ?
[07:53] <Febo> smooth is starnge
[07:53] <Febo> guilty of what and who?
14[07:53] <Spoetnik> if they could say ok look.. we made a few mistakes and we promise to chanbeg i would never bug them again
[07:53] <Febo> developers of Monero is wide thingy.
[07:54] <Febo> this so caled core team are mainly juts managers.
[07:54] <Febo> they dont code
[07:54] <Febo> they just organize what need to be coded.
14[07:54] <Spoetnik> if you have made some mistakes in crypto you can not pretend your record is perfect / flawless
[07:54] <Febo> Again is how i understand.
[07:55] <Febo> there are just random peopel who know how to code and just do it.
[07:55] <Febo> :)
[07:55] <Febo> noone say is flawless
14[07:55] <Spoetnik> people don't get it.. like you i think.
14[07:55] <Spoetnik> I have seen them with their hand in the cookie jar
[07:55] <Febo> Moneor is far from perfect
14[07:55] <Spoetnik> then they deny it
[07:56] <Febo> all cryto is manipulated
[07:56] <Febo> Monero shoudl eb way more, but high emision prevented that
14[07:56] <Spoetnik> they spent 2 years pretending thier record is perfect though always denying anything slightly negative
[07:56] <Febo> mny who were fiercfull suporters 2 years ago thought they will be abel to pump and dump it but saw they coudl not and left.
14[07:56] <Spoetnik> FOr exampel if a millionair eis involved then don;t hide it..
14[07:57] <Spoetnik> You see hwat i am saying ?
14[07:57] <Spoetnik> sorry i can't type too good
[07:57] <Febo> what milioanre?
14[07:57] <Spoetnik> Risto / reptiela
[07:57] <Febo> if few peopel hold to much coins?
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> he is RICH
[07:58] <Febo> i bet he is.
[07:58] <Febo> well at least he say he is
[07:58] <Febo> he might not be erealy but who knows
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> seen a pic of him and his castle + bentley ?
[07:58] <Febo> he is not stupid t put all egs in one bag
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> he put his Bitcointalk user name in the photos
[07:58] <Febo> some was at his castle
[07:58] <Febo> but that castele falls apart mostly :P
14[07:58] <Spoetnik> ya.. millionaire ;)
[07:58] <Febo> yes
[07:59] <Febo> i played cryptokingdom
[07:59] <Febo> he is a computer lol
[07:59] <Febo> i was one of first players, fdi dnot log half year all my wealth wil be sold by managers to keep me alive lol
14[07:59] <Spoetnik> he spent somewhere around $200,000 buying Monero when BTC was close to $900 bucks each
[07:59] <Febo> if i di dnto fdied yet and they divided my gold :P
[07:59] <Febo> how you knwo that?
[08:00] <Febo> i am not sure
14[08:00] <Spoetnik> he said it himself on the forum waaaay back
[08:00] <Febo> 900
14[08:00] <Spoetnik> and thatwa swonly the start LOL
[08:00] <Febo> when i buy monero i bought btc at $650
14[08:00] <Spoetnik> i bet anything he continued to keep buying more for 2 years
[08:00] <Febo> and i did 2 years ago or 25 months
[08:01] <Febo> so what he said was nto true.
[08:01] <Febo> he bought before me
14[08:01] <Spoetnik> He DID admit to making donations on ocasion and i seen the comments from him saying it too
[08:01] <Febo> i dont think he is bigest monero holder
[08:01] <Febo> but he know who are top holder
14[08:01] <Spoetnik> i don't know but i bet he has lots hahahahah
[08:01] <Febo> taht si what he was doing first half year
[08:01] <Febo> yes he have
14[08:02] <Spoetnik> he invested a LOT of money Febo
[08:02] <Febo> well we cant say i think he have
14[08:02] <Spoetnik> $200,000 usd worth
[08:02] <Febo> maybe a lto for you and me but not for him or fro other top10 Monero holders
14[08:02] <Spoetnik> you have a quarter million dollars laying around to spend ?
[08:02] <Febo> lol
[08:02] <Febo> i have in some bank but not mine yt. but i need to get gun first
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> Do you understand why people are cautious when a coin is driven by a whale who is a millionaire ?
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> LOL gun
[08:03] <Febo> Monero is way more then Risto
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> not the point though
14[08:03] <Spoetnik> he has been a part of it all for 2 years
[08:03] <Febo> No i mean there are biger holders tehn him
[08:03] <Febo> yes
[08:04] <Febo> they were in from start
[08:04] <Febo> but they are smart and dont stand out
[08:04] <Febo> there is already 12 milion moneros
[08:04] <Febo> 2 years were pumping out
[08:04] <Febo> nothing wil stop Monero growth
14[08:04] <Spoetnik> What would you do if a bag holder rich guy decides to dump all at once any minute ?
14[08:05] <Spoetnik> You would be broke instantly !
[08:05] <Febo> onyl thing that bothers me was that i bougt them 2 years ago and not 1 or half year ago when they were cheap
[08:05] <Febo> no
14[08:05] <Spoetnik> You would not be able to get to Poloniex to dump too quick enough before the price crashed
[08:05] <Febo> the rate woudl be low. and somoen woudl buy cheap ones.
14[08:05] <Spoetnik> i have seen it happen many time sbefore ;)
[08:05] <Febo> i dotn need to sell them tomorrow.
[08:06] <Febo> i dotn trade
[08:06] <Febo> i shoudl sometimes could make profit, but culd also make loss.
14[08:06] <Spoetnik> you see the power those top bag holders have though ?
[08:06] <Febo> those that claim they can onyl make profit lie
[08:06] <Febo> yes
[08:06] <Febo> but is same in all coins with big diference
[08:06] <Febo> they paid Moneros expencive
[08:07] <Febo> you said Rist bought btc at 900
14[08:07] <Spoetnik> i seen a hacker on Cryptsy exploit he POINTS market.. know what the points are there ?
[08:07] <Febo> and moneros at liek 0.002
[08:07] <Febo> so count how much $ he paid for one. he wil not dump them at lower price.
[08:08] <Febo> no i did not trade there.
14[08:08] <Spoetnik> We all watched as the guy got a LOT of points and he sold them all off non stop
14[08:08] <Spoetnik> in one 20 minute session he drove the prce from liek 0.0020000 sats' to 0.00000004
14[08:08] <Spoetnik> that is hwat whale can do anytime they want..
14[08:09] <Spoetnik> that triggers anarachy LOL
[08:09] <Febo> i am sureRisto trades. so he dont just hold, but i dont know. I am not worried of whales in Monero. I am onyl worried that they dont put soem of taht money in marketing. I hope they wait for GUI. But manbe are so stupid that they just give a shit.
[08:09] <Febo> Yes
[08:09] <Febo> it makes weak hands to sell
[08:10] <Febo> when monero was at 0.0001 i also had no will to buy any.
14[08:10] <Spoetnik> i see you are optimistic but are you respecting the risk & dangers involved in this stuff ?
[08:10] <Febo> when gets to 0.0004 i woudl buy
[08:10] <Febo> lol
[08:10] <Febo> i am gambler.
[08:10] <Febo> but not big enought to do daytrades
[08:10] <Febo> lol
14[08:10] <Spoetnik> have a wallet full of coisn that were delisted ?
14[08:10] <Spoetnik> i have more than 1 LOL
[08:10] <Febo> risk i see is that is soemthing technicly wrong
[08:11] <Febo> i dont own much conis
[08:11] <Febo> i actualy only have monero, and few other tiny amount of other coins taht just ended up on my poloniex acount
[08:11] <Febo> :)
14[08:11] <Spoetnik> i can name 3 coisn i had that got delisted everywhere
[08:11] <Febo> i am nto rich
[08:12] <Febo> why you bought them?
14[08:12] <Spoetnik> CryptoBits, JackpotCoin, CENT
[08:12] <Febo> why?
14[08:12] <Spoetnik> well not really i never invested a cent ..
[08:12] <Febo> dont spend money for coins you cone
[08:12] <Febo> yes
[08:12] <Febo> you got them as promotion
14[08:12] <Spoetnik> it happens for a few reason sbut it does happen a lot !
[08:12] <Febo> if you di dnto paid anything for them and others also di dnto paid anything for them, why woudl be of any worth?
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> i satrted mining in mid 2013 with an old crappy PC eh
[08:13] <Febo> when i pay 1$ i expect to sell at 1$
[08:13] <Febo> is simple
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> a core 2 duo e7500 CPU and an NVidia 550
[08:13] <Febo> i wonder what wil happen with bitcrystals :)
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> it took me a month+ to get 1 LTC
[08:13] <Febo> that is coin i also have. is nto realy a coin.
14[08:13] <Spoetnik> i did not go to my bank then take that to buy altcoins
[08:14] <Febo> i mined onyl monero
14[08:14] <Spoetnik> i then took that 1 LTC and i traded my way up so i had a bigger portfolio
[08:14] <Febo> liek 10 maybe :P
14[08:14] <Spoetnik> i got up to about $12,000 then cahed it all out & spent the money
[08:15] <Febo> realy?
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> 0 cents invested
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> yup i have the BTC wallets records still LOL
[08:15] <Febo> why you dont do it still?
[08:15] <Febo> but i think you were just lucky
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> i seen back when Doge got popualr BTC starting to crash & too much cloning in ALT's
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> i knew it was tiem to get out ASAP !
14[08:15] <Spoetnik> lucky ?
[08:16] <Febo> yes coudl go otherway
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> i turned 0 cents into 1 cent then 1 cent into 2 cents
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> it was a LOOOOOT of hard work man
[08:16] <Febo> you said you gained 1222k $ from nothing
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> yup
[08:16] <Febo> yes also work but still
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> no luck involved man
[08:16] <Febo> yes it is
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> i had to fight for it and it took prob 5/6 months
14[08:16] <Spoetnik> no it was trading skill
[08:17] <Febo> well i fought hard playing games last 10 years :P
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> i went down soemtimes a little then fuight my way backl learning lessons
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> fought*
[08:17] <Febo> it loosk simple
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> learning hwo to trade
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> it was not easy ;)
[08:17] <Febo> but you can easiyl lose also
14[08:17] <Spoetnik> not really i have more skill than others
[08:17] <Febo> nooen expected what wil hapepen with eth and dao
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> i am th eone who tuned 1 penny into 12 grand bud ;)
[08:18] <Febo> it influenced all alts
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> i also never was a bag hodler
[08:18] <Febo> but at end all coudl earn with buying it at right time
[08:18] <Febo> i had 8 ETH and sold them at 0.018 :P
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> i never sat on any altcoisn fro any long period of time
14[08:18] <Spoetnik> AKA: being abag holder
[08:18] <Febo> so if i buy now back wil have tiny loss :)
[08:18] <Febo> i do
[08:18] <Febo> on Monero
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> that si the most risky way to trade of all !
[08:19] <Febo> big bag for me, small bag fro most others :)
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> i woudl not even bag hold Bitcoin
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> whcih is why i sold them off..
14[08:19] <Spoetnik> glad i did too.. i sodl them at 1k each KNOWIng it was going to drop hard
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> i sodl when others were saying 10k is coming
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> speaking of that..
[08:20] <Febo> yes is hard to do it.
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> you kow Risto decalred BTC woudl go to a million per coin ?
[08:20] <Febo> maybe it will
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> he is that nuts LOL
14[08:20] <Spoetnik> coem on you think that is even possible really ?
[08:20] <Febo> he is actualy realy smart
[08:21] <Febo> i mean he is like computer
14[08:21] <Spoetnik> ya i think so..
[08:21] <Febo> i woudl never go play chees with him
14[08:21] <Spoetnik> excentric guy LOL
[08:21] <Febo> that game he made, he made so much progress daily like 10 peopel work it.
[08:21] <Febo> but after a year i saw it will fail since is way to complex
[08:22] <Febo> peopel like simple games liek will be Spells of genesiss.
[08:22] <Febo> no coder can keep with his ideas.
[08:22] <Febo> he aded new game modul weekly
[08:23] <Febo> Not sure hwo is now i was not on IRC for half year or read his thread.
14[08:23] <Spoetnik> I can't type at all eh
[08:23] <Febo> wut
14[08:23] <Spoetnik> lately i have as mall PC screen too which makes it way harder too
14[08:23] <Spoetnik> my typing skill is super bad :(
[08:24] <Febo> i mix letters.
[08:24] <Febo> constantly
[08:24] <Febo> liek let is lte
14[08:24] <Spoetnik> so ire type stuff lots and it gets tiring :(
[08:24] <Febo> not sure why. i think is soem disease.
14[08:24] <Spoetnik> duslexic ?
[08:24] <Febo> maybe
14[08:24] <Spoetnik> dyslexic
[08:25] <Febo> well i was never diagnosed, but somoen said that to me once.
14[08:25] <Spoetnik> that measn you read things backwards though eh
[08:25] <Febo> to lazy to read about
14[08:25] <Spoetnik> me i put vowels in wrong place..
[08:25] <Febo> but actualy any disease i read about i then suspect i have it :P
14[08:25] <Spoetnik> i don;lt hit my kets on keyboard properly
[08:25] <Febo> hmm
[08:25] <Febo> well then there is also spelling
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> i have the too-large-penis syndrome :(
[08:26] <Febo> but you said you are canadian, so you knwo english
[08:26] <Febo> lol
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> all the girls feel sorry for me LOL
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> ;)
[08:26] <Febo> i mix when is double ll
[08:26] <Febo> or put v instead of w
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> any time i see a comment i made at Bitcointalk is ee more misatkes in spelling
[08:26] <Febo> hmm
14[08:26] <Spoetnik> i am correcting some right now
[08:26] <Febo> maybe you are just more cautious
14[08:27] <Spoetnik> i have no excuse..i am not French LOL
[08:27] <Febo> we have that thingy that underline misspelings?
14[08:27] <Spoetnik> i only know English hahahha
[08:27] <Febo> Canadians re half french
14[08:27] <Spoetnik> ahh yeah i got that on Firefox but i still make mistakes
14[08:28] <Spoetnik> not me Febo
[08:28] <Febo> i know
[08:28] <Febo> is just Quebec
14[08:28] <Spoetnik> not many French oens on WEst side in BC Canada
[08:28] <Febo> i love history
14[08:28] <Spoetnik> they all on East in Quebec etc
[08:29] <Febo> hw many times you were baned?
[08:29] <Febo> from bitcointalk
14[08:29] <Spoetnik> 3 ?
[08:29] <Febo> lol
[08:30] <Febo> once i remeber
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> prob a day or 2 twice then 30 days once a year ago..
[08:30] <Febo> you were gone soem tiem but got back quite fast i even made topic about it.
[08:30] <Febo> i was for liek half year
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> well i barley commented at all last summer
[08:30] <Febo> send teymos liek 30 mails
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> had my internet cut off
14[08:30] <Spoetnik> i cancelled it to move but never moved rigth away
[08:30] <Febo> he unbaned me on day when that on redit coem out
[08:31] <Febo> btc fork
[08:31] <Febo> well how much mb shoudl one block have.
[08:32] <Febo> i guess since everyoen was how dicrator he is he started unbaning those he baned  :P
14[08:35] <Spoetnik> i need to go out soon & get rfesh air i think
[08:35] <Febo> gooo
14[08:35] <Spoetnik> my ass hurts sitting on PC too long
14[08:36] <Spoetnik> i like Mountain Bike riding eh
14[08:36] <Spoetnik> healthy for you + i smoke
[08:37] <Febo> hmm
[08:37] <Febo> i have mountains
[08:37] <Febo> but to lazzy
14[08:37] <Spoetnik> i'm lazy too LOL
[08:38] <Febo> and brother was all in that so have milion godo bikes also
14[08:38] <Spoetnik> Bike riding is my only healthy thing
[08:38] <Febo> he was in BMX and downhill
[08:38] <Febo> and latter in quads
[08:38] <Febo> those 4 whells
[08:38] <Febo> even in national team.
14[08:38] <Spoetnik> sounds like work LOL
[08:38] <Febo> altho was way over 35 then.
[08:39] <Febo> yes
[08:39] <Febo> he trianed hard. lol
14[08:39] <Spoetnik> i am 40 years old
[08:39] <Febo> now few years stopped.
[08:39] <Febo> i am close he is now a bit ower you
14[08:39] <Spoetnik> time goes by FAST !
[08:39] <Febo> yes
14[08:40] <Spoetnik> Bitcoin = 7 yrs old already
14[08:40] <Spoetnik> a decade is not far away WOW!
[08:40] <Febo> almost
[08:40] <Febo> november
[08:40] <Febo> or started in jan?
[08:41] <Febo> november was white paper pulished i think
14[08:41] <Spoetnik> not sure
[08:41] <Febo> i should be
[08:41] <Febo> 31 oct actualy
[08:41] <Febo> it started on 1 jan
14[08:41] <Spoetnik> So feel free to tell the other Monero supporters.. just be honest about stuff
14[08:41] <Spoetnik> if they do that then they have not very many problems LOL
[08:41] <Febo> tell what?
[08:42] <Febo> i think the dont have many problems
[08:42] <Febo> there are many that dont liek Monero
[08:42] <Febo> other curencies
[08:42] <Febo> specialy dash
[08:42] <Febo> we all thought main FUDErs are bytecoin
14[08:42] <Spoetnik> Liek David Latapie should go on Bitcointalk and explain in detail what happened way back for example
[08:43] <Febo> we all thought that bytcoin and that Cryptonote group are same
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> well yeahh of course.. dash ;)
[08:43] <Febo> lol
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> duh man LOL
[08:43] <Febo> he posted on monero forum taht he dont have time for Monero
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> of course they FUD'ing you with any thing they can think of
[08:43] <Febo> you posted his psot
14[08:43] <Spoetnik> well his comment was SUPER vage !
[08:43] <Febo> he shoudl psost again same?
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> it did not say anyuthing really just an apology
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> no.. detaisl man ;)
[08:44] <Febo> i even send you PM expalining you how i as monero comunity understadn what he said.
[08:44] <Febo> but you then understadn me totaly diferent
[08:44] <Febo> as you usuayl do.
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> you can't expect peopel in crypto to take yoru word for things
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> we don;t trust each other LOL
14[08:44] <Spoetnik> he is the guy taht should speak
14[08:45] <Spoetnik> the*
[08:45] <Febo> why woudl anyone care what he needs to do. he can go mountainbike riding
14[08:45] <Spoetnik> he rides bikes too liek me ?
[08:45] <Febo> he just said taht we shoudl nto count mmuch on him anymore. mabye he wil come back tomorow. who knows.
[08:45] <Febo> i am sure he stil belive Monero will flourish
[08:45] <Febo> i dont know
[08:45] <Febo> lol
[08:45] <Febo> maybe
14[08:45] <Spoetnik> well it has been 2 years adn nothing much has chanegd adoption wise Febo
[08:45] <Febo> i dont care what he does
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> Febo it's not about you
[08:46] <Febo> in adoption of anything did nto happen much but did some.
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> Dash used it as ammo buddy
[08:46] <Febo> yes
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> get it ?
14[08:46] <Spoetnik> So it does not matter if Dave explaine dto you
[08:46] <Febo> dash are who hate monero most
[08:46] <Febo> David explained to all Monero comunity on Monero forum
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> it's the info that needs to be put out so Dash does not have FUD ammo on you guys
[08:47] <Febo> eh
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> see what i mean ?
[08:47] <Febo> it is all there
[08:47] <Febo> he said it all
[08:47] <Febo> he posted all
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> nohe said nothing
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> he was vague
[08:47] <Febo> he did
[08:47] <Febo> he said he dont have time anymore to help with Monero
14[08:47] <Spoetnik> he never did explainwhat happened
[08:47] <Febo> why he need that?
[08:48] <Febo> he did nto sighn contract
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> Police ?
[08:48] <Febo> police?
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> he mentioend fraud and stolen Bitcoin..
[08:48] <Febo> why he need to explain why he dont want to help monero anymore?
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> i just told you
[08:48] <Febo> i dont recall that
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> DASH
[08:48] <Febo> dash are pro yes
14[08:48] <Spoetnik> he is not being open & hoenst
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> and it's nto just dash either
[08:49] <Febo> i dont realy care of him
[08:49] <Febo> yes
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> it's abotu all of crypto who deserve or want to know
[08:49] <Febo> there are more coins afraid of Monero
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> anyoen out there who may be looking at teh Moenro situation wodnering can i trust tehse guys
14[08:49] <Spoetnik> so hiding *most* of the story fromthe public looks bad..
[08:49] <Febo> no need to trust David if he left lol
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> you still don't get it LOL
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> him leaving makes no difference
[08:50] <Febo> who is managing most i see is flufypony
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> we don't trust you fo one thing
[08:50] <Febo> i asked smooth about monero card for Spells of gennesis. he di dnothing lol
[08:50] <Febo> gives a shit
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> all aguy ahs to do is create a new name
[08:50] <Febo> yes
14[08:50] <Spoetnik> you give a shit Febo if you want Moenro to succeed
[08:50] <Febo> i do
14[08:51] <Spoetnik> the peanut gallery at Bitcointalk make or break your coin
14[08:52] <Spoetnik> It's not about me or just Dash gusy but all ofo th epeopel who read topci sat Bitcointalk
[08:52] <Febo> i asked spells of geneseis what is needed for Monero card they said Ok we wil do it just link us i di dand nothing happened. smooth if to bussy could just give me green light  to organize myself.
[08:52] <Febo> eh
[08:52] <Febo> bitcointalk dont have so much influence
14[08:52] <Spoetnik> it's been 2 years with Monero Febo..
[08:52] <Febo> but still dasj is curently in lead.
[08:52] <Febo> yes
14[08:52] <Spoetnik> noit much has changed Adoption wise
[08:53] <Febo> problem is Monero outside have little
[08:53] <Febo> yes
[08:53] <Febo> bitcointalk is not so important
[08:53] <Febo> googel monero
14[08:53] <Spoetnik> I would have to ask why ?
[08:53] <Febo> and google dash
[08:53] <Febo> we dotn have marketing
[08:53] <Febo> and tthose with lots coins dont care about it
[08:53] <Febo> why?
14[08:53] <Spoetnik> We all know nobody but Crypto-Nerd into this stuff heavily are going to knwo abotu Dash or Monero
[08:53] <Febo> maybe they just want to buy more at lover price.
[08:54] <Febo> but is starnge since they might allready have lots.
14[08:54] <Spoetnik> Crypto-Nerds do NOT matter.. the general public does
[08:54] <Febo> yes
[08:54] <Febo> but dash is in huge lead
[08:54] <Febo> they have 1 huge bagholder.
[08:54] <Febo> he spend money to pormote it
14[08:54] <Spoetnik> i would say Dash is still just a niche thing on Bitcointalk though like all ALtcoins
[08:55] <Febo> we have few smaler bag holders that mainly give a shit
14[08:55] <Spoetnik> You have to break out fromt heh Forumn adn conquer the world outside
[08:55] <Febo> i mean out of bitcointalk
[08:55] <Febo> yes
[08:55] <Febo> right now goggle both
14[08:55] <Spoetnik> forum users do not matter they are nto supporters
[08:55] <Febo> check youtube
[08:55] <Febo> monero
[08:55] <Febo> dash
[08:55] <Febo> you wil see diference
14[08:55] <Spoetnik> they are profiteers looking to dump your coins for profit
[08:55] <Febo> dash sponsor diferent podcasts
[08:56] <Febo> i dont know.
14[08:56] <Spoetnik> well that is a start i guess
[08:56] <Febo> Monero also have lack of manpower
[08:56] <Febo> it looks we are many but i dont think.
14[08:56] <Spoetnik> If you can't break out of Bictointalk then what is the point ?
[08:56] <Febo> core team focus on tech
14[08:56] <Spoetnik> All that is left is.. profit.
[08:57] <Febo> they have meetings all teh time, but talk onyl of that . yes is most important but still.
14[08:57] <Spoetnik> Monero is a currency right ?
[08:57] <Febo> yes
[08:57] <Febo> you can say that way
[08:57] <Febo> monero is like btc
[08:57] <Febo> internet of money
14[08:57] <Spoetnik> well if it is not used as a Currency then.. it is not a currency LOL
[08:58] <Febo> it wil be used for storing
[08:58] <Febo> i am not worried
14[08:58] <Spoetnik> then it just becomes a digital token used for profit (not a currency)
[08:58] <Febo> not profit
[08:58] <Febo> for storing
14[08:58] <Spoetnik> optimisim does not make it a currency
[08:58] <Febo> thatsi my wiev
[08:59] <Febo> if you ask me soon you wil nto knwo what you use
[08:59] <Febo> which curency
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> think about what a currency is..
[08:59] <Febo> you wil just use teh one taht is cheapest
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> are poepl using Monero or any altcoin for it's INTENDED purpose ?
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> 90% no
14[08:59] <Spoetnik> mostly just profit..
[08:59] <Febo> yes
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> then you can't call it a currency then LOL
[09:00] <Febo> now those that buy it does for speculation
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> get it used as one !
[09:00] <Febo> i bought 10 ETH to use, not to speculate
[09:00] <Febo> and price went up x10 lol
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> which means Bitcointalk does not even matter.. at all.
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> nor does the price..
14[09:00] <Spoetnik> both are iurreleevnt
[09:00] <Febo> i bought to open walet and make that contract to learn
[09:00] <Febo> yes
14[09:01] <Spoetnik> the ONLY thing that really matters is outsoide of Bitcointalk
[09:01] <Febo> for Monero
14[09:01] <Spoetnik> It should not matter what they think..
[09:01] <Febo> fo rsome other coins that nooen here knows about them also matters here.
14[09:01] <Spoetnik> they are profiteers
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> you need mom & pop + friends family using the coin
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> not profiteers counting money at Bitcointalk..
[09:02] <Febo> i tell you they will
[09:02] <Febo> bitcoin
[09:02] <Febo> soon, they wil nt know they do but wil use it
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> Bitcoin has gone in reverse and doen next to nothing for adoption
[09:02] <Febo> latter also other coins
[09:02] <Febo> eh
14[09:02] <Spoetnik> and Monero or any altcoin can not even compare with BTC
[09:03] <Febo> companies use it
[09:03] <Febo> yes they are far behind
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> my country ahd the worlds first BTC ATM machien in Canada back in late 2013 eh
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> it was taken downa dnthe store closed liek almsot 2 years ago now
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> BTC is slipping bad for years with adoption
[09:03] <Febo> yes
[09:03] <Febo> they said last yer when was in netherlands
14[09:03] <Spoetnik> they are nto moving forward but backwards
14[09:04] <Spoetnik> and altcoins can not evenkeep upw ith Bitcoin LOL
[09:04] <Febo> in soem bitcon conference how many places stoped
14[09:04] <Spoetnik> profiteers are the problem
14[09:04] <Spoetnik> and that is th eonly people at TheTalk
[09:04] <Febo> i also see in my country stores started aceptingin 2013 and now no new more.
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> exactly..
[09:05] <Febo> we had now selling btc on petrol stations :P
[09:05] <Febo> lol
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> If Monero can succeed then go for it..
[09:05] <Febo> and not even our guy did it but soemeone looking lik eindian
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> but i dont think it has done much *yet*
[09:05] <Febo> monero wil stay. i am not worried.
14[09:05] <Spoetnik> it needs to do things in the real world not on that scammy shithole forum
[09:06] <Febo> that wil be superhard
[09:06] <Febo> lol
14[09:06] <Spoetnik> woudl you brag about planting arose in a field of dog shit ?
[09:06] <Febo> many other coins did it
14[09:06] <Spoetnik> imagine a million pounds of shit then 1 rose sticking out LOL
14[09:06] <Spoetnik> it is STILL a rose in field of shit..
14[09:07] <Spoetnik> context ;)
[09:07] <Febo> asi see chance for monero is something that wil happen with privacy.
[09:07] <Febo> to be known more
14[09:08] <Spoetnik> i am not so sure the public is going to be interested in that
[09:08] <Febo> i think it will
14[09:09] <Spoetnik> I think it will hamper adoption mostly
[09:09] <Febo> but it differs on diferent part of world i guess
14[09:09] <Spoetnik> hackers will want to attack ot & govt's will want to also
[09:09] <Febo> it is hard to attack PoW
[09:09] <Febo> i mean you need to do it constantly
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> Govts may push regualtion on us because of it..
[09:10] <Febo> yes
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> so far they have..
[09:10] <Febo> but what they will do lol
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> i kept warning gusy for 3 years take part and vote for regulation ..or.....
[09:10] <Febo> is dencentralized
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> they will push it on us anyway with OUT our input on it
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> and people said who cares..
14[09:10] <Spoetnik> they said they can;t stop us etc
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> they can !
[09:11] <Febo> they cant
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> http://www.coindesk.com/localbitcoins-users-criminal-charges-florida/
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> what do you do when the FBI arrests you for selling Bitcoin ?
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> YES they can ;)
14[09:11] <Spoetnik> and they DO !
14[09:12] <Spoetnik> Cryptsy was reporting user to the Fed's
[09:12] <Febo> i guess something they di dwas against law
14[09:12] <Spoetnik> ..for example
14[09:12] <Spoetnik> yup and the laws coudl get waaaaaay worse pushing "Anon" coins i think
[09:12] <Febo> in my country mining is taxable, gaining profit on exchanges or selling it is not
[09:13] <Febo> so here no poblems sell on localbitcoins
14[09:13] <Spoetnik> that link shows a guy who sold Bitcoin adn got arrested by the FBI
[09:13] <Febo> yes i just read title
14[09:13] <Spoetnik> he broke Florida's anti-money-laundering laws
[09:13] <Febo> yes
[09:13] <Febo> he shoudl pay tax
14[09:13] <Spoetnik> anything over 10k usd is bad news
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> it was not about taxes
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> it was about having yoru identity attacked tot he transaction
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> attached*
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> anything over 10k has to be documented with picture ID etc
14[09:14] <Spoetnik> see a problem with ANOn yet ? lol
14[09:15] <Spoetnik> they set up those laws LONG ago to combat money laundering from the Mob etc
14[09:15] <Spoetnik> But it applies to Crypto still we see
14[09:15] <Spoetnik> with all the ransomware out and the FBI hunting them.. we got more drma coming
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> sorry i just think ANON coin is a bad idea lol
[09:16] <Febo> i understand
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> and if it *can* be used optionaly then THAT si what it WILL be known for..
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> EVEN if it an option
14[09:16] <Spoetnik> imagien Monero on SilkRoad
14[09:17] <Spoetnik> the puclic already thinks BTC is a drugs & guns thing on the web.. lots of people on the street told me eh
14[09:17] <Spoetnik> we might know better but hte ublci may not..
14[09:17] <Spoetnik> and the govt may over reacte with ahrsh laws making it super hard to get BTC to buy monero etc
[09:18] <Febo> lol
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> that would cripple crypto
[09:18] <Febo> now you are owerreacting
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> we need the flow off fiat money into BTC into Alt's
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> cut off the chain & you got a big problem
[09:18] <Febo> yes
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> for example..
14[09:18] <Spoetnik> Paypal
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> they forbid for 4+ years now ANY connection with ANY viryual currency
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> if they catch you yoru accoutn + money is GONE !
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> they cut off th elink to FIAT with "laws"
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> that is reality
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> rigth in thier TOS agreement
[09:19] <Febo> istheir loss
14[09:19] <Spoetnik> i know they naield me 2 years back LOL
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> no mine when they popped me LOL
[09:20] <Febo> paypal coudl use crypto nicely
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> i hade to get a lawyer and fight them for 2.5 months
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> almost lsot 5k
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> lost*
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> this is not shit that is helping adoption Febo LOL
14[09:20] <Spoetnik> that is regulations causing a problem..
[09:21] <Febo> no that is paypal be afraid
14[09:21] <Spoetnik> i had to pay the laweyr fee's out of pocket and had my coisn / money seized tide up unable to be used for months randomly out fo th eblue
[09:21] <Febo> stop using paypal lol
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> and all i did was send over the min amount from BTCe two times..
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> i did ;)
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> min amount was $2,500 usd
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> and fee's for the 2 tx's was $500
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> from both the exchange + PP
[09:22] <Febo> lol
14[09:22] <Spoetnik> ouch LOL
[09:22] <Febo> that is what makes crypto great
[09:23] <Febo> simple
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> they gouged me then locked my account
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> you would not believe the bullshit htey put me through man
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> i th end they said they woudl give it back and unlcok my account
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> then they stoel $700
14[09:23] <Spoetnik> and ketp demanding tehy already gave it back..
14[09:24] <Spoetnik> they did not.. i think satff were stealing from me on purpose :(
14[09:24] <Spoetnik> eventually i got them to admit it though and i got it..
14[09:24] <Spoetnik> nightmare LOL
14[09:25] <Spoetnik> well good talking to you but i shoudl start getting ready to head out now
14[09:25] <Spoetnik> i will go AFK soon'ish
[09:25] <Febo> goooo
Session Close: Sun Jun 26 13:18:00 2016