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  1. [2011-03-06 15:05:28] <DoorToLukahn> Take it away Neumannz, since I have no idea what Kryten said needs to be discussed further.
  2. [2011-03-06 15:06:04] <maggosh> Okay.
  3. [2011-03-06 15:06:12] <Neumannz> alright, first i will list the ~3 points Kryten was upset about re: last meeting
  4. [2011-03-06 15:06:13] <maggosh> ALL I asked is, what you were talking about before I came in.
  5. [2011-03-06 15:06:43] =-= PhilosopherSDC is now known as SDC|Shower
  6. [2011-03-06 15:06:45] <Neumannz> do you know now?
  7. [2011-03-06 15:07:09] <Neumannz> 1)
  8. [2011-03-06 15:08:28] <Neumannz> apparantly you guys decided to warn users copying content to the wikia
  9. [2011-03-06 15:08:43] <maggosh> By users, you mean Ammon.
  10. [2011-03-06 15:08:50] <Neumannz> possibly
  11. [2011-03-06 15:09:11] <maggosh> No, not possibly.
  12. [2011-03-06 15:09:13] <maggosh> Indefinitely.
  13. [2011-03-06 15:09:26] <DoorToLukahn> Why Wikia? We're no longer affiliated with them. Or do you mean KHWikia users copying content from KHWiki?
  14. [2011-03-06 15:09:45] <Neumannz> yeah, that
  15. [2011-03-06 15:09:53] <DoorToLukahn> Okay, gotcha.
  16. [2011-03-06 15:10:01] -->| KrytenKoro (180d7d56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.13.125.86) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  17. [2011-03-06 15:10:16] =-= Mode #KHWiki-noticeboard +o KrytenKoro by DoorToLukahn
  18. [2011-03-06 15:10:18] <KrytenKoro> test
  19. [2011-03-06 15:10:25] <Neumannz> ah, cool
  20. [2011-03-06 15:10:46] <KrytenKoro> okay okay
  21. [2011-03-06 15:10:49] <KrytenKoro> is everybody here?
  22. [2011-03-06 15:11:03] <KrytenKoro> ah good
  23. [2011-03-06 15:11:05] <Demonic_Saint> I think so
  24. [2011-03-06 15:11:05] === #KHWiki-noticeboard Cannot send to channel
  25. [2011-03-06 15:11:28] <DoorToLukahn> Well I totally agree to that Neumannz. So there are already editors copying KHWiki edits to KHWikia?
  26. [2011-03-06 15:11:31] <Demonic_Saint> I'm trying to contact TNE, but I can't find her anywhere
  27. [2011-03-06 15:11:31] === #KHWiki-noticeboard Cannot send to channel
  28. [2011-03-06 15:12:00] <maggosh> Like I said, Ammon.
  29. [2011-03-06 15:12:19] <maggosh> He's copied images from KHWiki to the Wikia and the like.
  30. [2011-03-06 15:12:28] <Demonic_Saint> Question: Can you ops hear me?
  31. [2011-03-06 15:12:29] === #KHWiki-noticeboard Cannot send to channel
  32. [2011-03-06 15:12:41] <Neumannz> while he is being a bit of an ass, the only thing he's technically doing that he should is not giving credit where credit is due
  33. [2011-03-06 15:12:49] <KrytenKoro> basically
  34. [2011-03-06 15:12:56] <Neumannz> *that he should not
  35. [2011-03-06 15:13:02] <KrytenKoro> we have no place to be yelling at him when we are doing literally the exact same thing
  36. [2011-03-06 15:13:23] <KrytenKoro> we can ask him politely to give credit to the image uploaders, but doing anything more turns us into hypocrites
  37. [2011-03-06 15:13:30] <KrytenKoro> however
  38. [2011-03-06 15:13:32] <DoorToLukahn> True.
  39. [2011-03-06 15:13:48] <KrytenKoro> once the audit is done, the wikia is not going to be able to USE most of these images and text content
  40. [2011-03-06 15:13:50] <DoorToLukahn> And it's hard to say that articles are linked to a community that separated.
  41. [2011-03-06 15:14:39] <KrytenKoro> because once the wikia is able to change its focus, it's going to be very difficult to copypaste articles from one tto the other; like copying from a wikipedia page to our wiki
  42. [2011-03-06 15:14:48] <DoorToLukahn> I would suggest that we ask that in all the images he uploads, he writes "Taken from KHWiki (link), originally uploaded by [user link to KHWiki]"
  43. [2011-03-06 15:15:17] <KrytenKoro> that would be fine, I think
  44. [2011-03-06 15:15:42] <KrytenKoro> but I was just really uncomfortable with what it seemed like was decided, to give him actual warnings on the wiki or wikia
  45. [2011-03-06 15:15:43] <DoorToLukahn> Alright then. What's the user's name, Ammon? Or is that an abbreviation?
  46. [2011-03-06 15:15:50] <KrytenKoro> Ammon01111
  47. [2011-03-06 15:15:52] <KrytenKoro> 111111
  48. [2011-03-06 15:15:53] <KrytenKoro> 111
  49. [2011-03-06 15:15:55] <KrytenKoro> 1
  50. [2011-03-06 15:15:57] <maggosh> 2
  51. [2011-03-06 15:16:08] <KrytenKoro> OH GOD NO
  52. [2011-03-06 15:16:12] <KrytenKoro> THERE'S NO SUCH THING!
  53. [2011-03-06 15:16:26] <Demonic_Saint> lol?
  54. [2011-03-06 15:16:26] === #KHWiki-noticeboard Cannot send to channel
  55. [2011-03-06 15:17:01] <KrytenKoro> no, but really
  56. [2011-03-06 15:17:20] <KrytenKoro> that sounds fine
  57. [2011-03-06 15:18:14] <DoorToLukahn> Okay, so that's settled. I suggest we make a forum post on KHWikia, as the departed community once the audit is complete, explaining the Copyleft situation and how they need to give total and noticeable credit or not do it at all.
  58. [2011-03-06 15:20:10] =-= Auror|Away is now known as Asorailahd
  59. [2011-03-06 15:20:28] <KrytenKoro> ok
  60. [2011-03-06 15:20:58] <KrytenKoro> and again, I'd like to apologize for not making it yesterday
  61. [2011-03-06 15:22:05] <Neumannz> can we move to the next thing?
  62. [2011-03-06 15:22:09] <DoorToLukahn> Certainly.
  63. [2011-03-06 15:23:01] <KrytenKoro> the youtube and twitter and facebook
  64. [2011-03-06 15:23:14] <KrytenKoro> the youtube is definitely for the khwiki only
  65. [2011-03-06 15:23:20] <DoorToLukahn> Is the Facebook even used?
  66. [2011-03-06 15:23:28] <DoorToLukahn> And I'm not sure what became of the Twitter...
  67. [2011-03-06 15:23:30] <KrytenKoro> don't know, honestly
  68. [2011-03-06 15:23:43] <KrytenKoro> twitter, I know TNE says she uses it for the foreign-language wikis also
  69. [2011-03-06 15:23:53] <Demonic_Saint> Yeah
  70. [2011-03-06 15:23:53] === #KHWiki-noticeboard Cannot send to channel
  71. [2011-03-06 15:24:00] <KrytenKoro> so, the question is, should those two have both the wiki and the wikia, or just the wiki?
  72. [2011-03-06 15:24:57] <DoorToLukahn> I'd like the wiki to have its own off-wiki network aside from the Wikia.
  73. [2011-03-06 15:25:16] <Neumannz> <Demonic_Saint> The Twitter is both used be the French and Spanish Wikia too... mostly French
  74. [2011-03-06 15:25:21] <DoorToLukahn> If we want the two wikis to split and begin to travel two different paths of growth, this is definitely a way to promote it and keep one wiki from becoming the other.
  75. [2011-03-06 15:25:59] -->| Chitalian (48e70bde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.231.11.222) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  76. [2011-03-06 15:27:22] <KrytenKoro> so, what do you guys all think?
  77. [2011-03-06 15:27:40] <DoorToLukahn> Kryten, we're on +m.
  78. [2011-03-06 15:27:49] <Neumannz> (answer on the social board)
  79. [2011-03-06 15:27:58] <KrytenKoro> should the khwiki get a new twitter and facebook?
  80. [2011-03-06 15:29:31] <maggosh> No other way you'll have it, huh?
  81. [2011-03-06 15:34:24] -->| Asif (~Asif@ool-4576ec6e.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  82. [2011-03-06 15:34:55] <Neumannz> as opposed to the ones we have now?
  83. [2011-03-06 15:35:46] =-= YOU are now known as DS|Away
  84. [2011-03-06 15:37:47] <KrytenKoro> also;
  85. [2011-03-06 15:38:48] <KrytenKoro> the youtube, twitter, and facebook, (and anything else we don't know about)
  86. [2011-03-06 15:40:38] =-= YOU are now known as Demonic_Saint
  87. [2011-03-06 15:40:42] <KrytenKoro> we need to put up staff lists for them on the staff page
  88. [2011-03-06 15:40:49] <Neumannz> we need to keep the youtube
  89. [2011-03-06 15:41:13] <Neumannz> they won't have any use for it, especially with what we have on it now
  90. [2011-03-06 15:42:28] <DoorToLukahn> Alright, after a discussion on #KHWiki-social , the community over there agrees to stay on-topic completely if we unmute. I'm trusting them (and will remute if it gets off-topic badly), so...
  91. [2011-03-06 15:42:34] =-= Mode #KHWiki-noticeboard -m by DoorToLukahn
  92. [2011-03-06 15:42:38] =-= SDC|Shower is now known as PhilosopherSDC
  93. [2011-03-06 15:43:22] <FerreTrip> (Test) Well, what do we use the YouTube page for?
  94. [2011-03-06 15:43:58] <Neumannz> the idea is to host all relevant videos we use in article there
  95. [2011-03-06 15:44:10] <Chitalian> Link to the youtube page?
  96. [2011-03-06 15:44:12] <Neumannz> right now we have the BBSFM battle missions
  97. [2011-03-06 15:44:23] <Asif> Anything else?
  98. [2011-03-06 15:44:24] <FerreTrip> I wondered if that was it. *nod* Sounds like a good idea, I say we keep the page, too.
  99. [2011-03-06 15:44:31] <KrytenKoro> well, the youtube
  100. [2011-03-06 15:44:34] <Chitalian> We could put up the days missions.
  101. [2011-03-06 15:44:34] <KrytenKoro> we ABSOLUTELY keep
  102. [2011-03-06 15:44:38] <KrytenKoro> I set it up for the khwiki
  103. [2011-03-06 15:44:44] <KrytenKoro> it is not in any way for the wikia
  104. [2011-03-06 15:44:45] <Dan36> Links to the social sites are here: http://www.khwiki.net/KHWiki:Traverse_Town#World_Exit
  105. [2011-03-06 15:45:16] <Demonic_Saint> And the Twitter and Facebook?
  106. [2011-03-06 15:45:18] <Neumannz> http://www.youtube.com/user/KingdomHeartsWiki
  107. [2011-03-06 15:45:22] <Chitalian> I'm still questioning the actual worth of the FB
  108. [2011-03-06 15:45:37] <Demonic_Saint> The Twitter is called "KHWiki" so we can say it kinda belongs to us...
  109. [2011-03-06 15:45:59] <Dan36> All of the sites are called "KHWiki"
  110. [2011-03-06 15:46:04] <Dan36> Not "KHWikia"
  111. [2011-03-06 15:46:18] <Demonic_Saint> So all you sites are belong to us... sorry for the joke
  112. [2011-03-06 15:47:07] <Neumannz> if they ask for a twitter, could we just set them up with one and leave them to it?
  113. [2011-03-06 15:47:17] <DoorToLukahn> Gotta agree with Dan36, despite the confusion it may cause in names.
  114. [2011-03-06 15:47:28] <Asif> So, do we ask Wikia to make their own channel/group/twitter?
  115. [2011-03-06 15:47:34] <Chitalian> Still, one group called
  116. [2011-03-06 15:47:45] <Chitalian> ^ Disregard that, sorry
  117. [2011-03-06 15:48:28] <Demonic_Saint> But considreing those sites were made even before the KHWiki was planned... it's kinda being a jerk to "steal" them from the Wikia
  118. [2011-03-06 15:48:40] <Neumannz> there are two important questions about these:
  119. [2011-03-06 15:48:42] <Dan36> PLus, the users running them have all moved to the new Wiki.
  120. [2011-03-06 15:49:00] <Demonic_Saint> Yeah.. true
  121. [2011-03-06 15:49:01] <Neumannz> 1) what is the main purpose of each of these
  122. [2011-03-06 15:49:05] <KrytenKoro> the question is: do we want a twitter or facebook?
  123. [2011-03-06 15:49:05] <Demonic_Saint> But not the followers
  124. [2011-03-06 15:49:13] <Chitalian> Facebook is almost entirely pointless.
  125. [2011-03-06 15:49:27] <FerreTrip> I'll admit, I don't know of much point for the Facebook page.
  126. [2011-03-06 15:49:31] <Chitalian> Nothing important happens there.
  127. [2011-03-06 15:49:43] <FerreTrip> I joined just now, but I don't know what business would be done there.
  128. [2011-03-06 15:49:57] <Neumannz> 2) are these easy enough to set up that we can just make our own easily enough?
  129. [2011-03-06 15:50:05] <Chitalian> Anything done on the FB could be better done on the Twitter
  130. [2011-03-06 15:50:11] <Dan36> The original purpose of the Twitter was to publish news and upcoming events and such.
  131. [2011-03-06 15:50:15] <Neumannz> FB groups can be easily renamed
  132. [2011-03-06 15:50:26] <Asorailahd> Wait, wouldn't that basically be the Trinity Events?
  133. [2011-03-06 15:50:26] <Neumannz> if necessary
  134. [2011-03-06 15:50:39] <Asif> @Chilatian: But not everyone is a member of Twitter.
  135. [2011-03-06 15:50:42] <Dan36> But we don't need to rename them, do we?
  136. [2011-03-06 15:50:48] -->| ANX|QoD (62139a11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.19.154.17) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  137. [2011-03-06 15:50:52] <FerreTrip> Example for Asif's point: Me.
  138. [2011-03-06 15:50:54] <Chitalian> Yeah, more people have FBs than Twitters.
  139. [2011-03-06 15:51:06] <Neumannz> if we leave it for the wikia, we can just rename it
  140. [2011-03-06 15:51:30] <Dan36> But if we keep it, we don't need to rename it
  141. [2011-03-06 15:51:39] <Dan36> Right?
  142. [2011-03-06 15:51:50] <Demonic_Saint> Right
  143. [2011-03-06 15:51:55] <Chitalian> Sounds right.
  144. [2011-03-06 15:52:00] <Neumannz> the only REAL purpose for these is to announce events
  145. [2011-03-06 15:52:10] <Neumannz> and in the case of FB, contact information
  146. [2011-03-06 15:52:14] <Chitalian> I just don't really see the need for a FB or a Twitter
  147. [2011-03-06 15:52:29] <Asorailahd> Well, for advertising purposes, basically.
  148. [2011-03-06 15:52:38] <Asorailahd> That's not everything though.
  149. [2011-03-06 15:52:49] <FerreTrip> Contact info sounds handy--I was wondering if it'd be nice to email Kryten earlier and ask if he was too busy to come or something, but I didn't know his email.
  150. [2011-03-06 15:52:50] <Dan36> Twitter was almost unanimously decided upon in the forums.
  151. [2011-03-06 15:53:21] <Dan36> And they do serve advertising purposes.
  152. [2011-03-06 15:53:31] <Neumannz> i've never looked at it
  153. [2011-03-06 15:53:43] <Neumannz> is it still being updated?
  154. [2011-03-06 15:53:48] <Dan36> Weren't we discussing that there wasn't enough advertisement for the new wiki just yesterday?
  155. [2011-03-06 15:53:55] <Demonic_Saint> There are no recent tweets from KHWiki twitter... but I dunno... tweet deck is weird
  156. [2011-03-06 15:54:13] <KrytenKoro> there should be an extension allowing you to e-mail me from my user page
  157. [2011-03-06 15:54:37] <Dan36> Most recent Tweet was 25th Feb, Facebook was yesterday.
  158. [2011-03-06 15:54:45] <Sove> Only if the sender has given own email to the wiki
  159. [2011-03-06 15:54:57] <FerreTrip> Ah. Should've known. I'm shy, though. But still, contact info such as on FB might come in handy for people who don't put up their emails on their user pages.
  160. [2011-03-06 15:55:10] <Chitalian> Some people like their privacy.
  161. [2011-03-06 15:55:16] <Dan36> People searching for "Kingdom Hearts" or "KH" could come accross these pages.
  162. [2011-03-06 15:55:23] <Demonic_Saint> Twitter just doesn't ahve anything to tweet actually...
  163. [2011-03-06 15:55:25] <Chitalian> I personally wouldn't friend anyone here on FB
  164. [2011-03-06 15:55:34] <Dan36> In my opinion, it's good for advertising and contacting us.
  165. [2011-03-06 15:55:47] <FerreTrip> TT_TT JK But I see where you're coming from, C8.
  166. [2011-03-06 15:55:48] <DoorToLukahn> What Chitalian said.
  167. [2011-03-06 15:56:02] <Dan36> That's the thing
  168. [2011-03-06 15:56:14] <Dan36> If you join the group, you don't need to friend anyone.
  169. [2011-03-06 15:56:34] <FerreTrip> Yeah--I noticed I was able to comment on people's posts without knowing them, like I can on BIT.TRIP's page.
  170. [2011-03-06 15:56:37] <KrytenKoro> question about the facebook, actually
  171. [2011-03-06 15:56:41] |<-- ANX|QoD has left freenode (Quit: Page closed)
  172. [2011-03-06 15:56:45] <Chitalian> But if the FB is solely for contact info
  173. [2011-03-06 15:56:47] <KrytenKoro> has it friended the actual Kingdom Hearts page?
  174. [2011-03-06 15:56:55] <DoorToLukahn> I sure hope so.
  175. [2011-03-06 15:57:17] <FerreTrip> I don't know how to find that out, lemme nose a bit...
  176. [2011-03-06 15:57:39] <Dan36> Friended? But it's a group...
  177. [2011-03-06 15:57:52] <FerreTrip> That's what I just wondered--can a group friend people?
  178. [2011-03-06 15:57:53] <Asif> Can groups like other groups?
  179. [2011-03-06 15:58:10] <Chitalian> I believe they can't.
  180. [2011-03-06 15:58:49] <Asorailahd> He meant affilated.
  181. [2011-03-06 15:58:50] <FerreTrip> I think the only way the two can connect is if they share members.
  182. [2011-03-06 15:58:57] <FerreTrip> Oh! Hmmmm...
  183. [2011-03-06 15:59:02] <Chitalian> We're getting logs of this, right?
  184. [2011-03-06 15:59:26] <Asorailahd> Well, I don't know how to log with mIRC, so I would think that one of you with webchat can do that.
  185. [2011-03-06 15:59:35] <Dan36> That's a fair point actually...
  186. [2011-03-06 15:59:48] <FerreTrip> I dunno how to log on freenode--I was thinking just copy the whole thing here and paste into a file...
  187. [2011-03-06 15:59:49] <DoorToLukahn> I'm logging this chat right now.
  188. [2011-03-06 15:59:55] -->| Soxra (~Sky@S01060016b6e25c1a.cg.shawcable.net) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  189. [2011-03-06 16:00:03] <Asorailahd> Yeah, just use Pastebin.
  190. [2011-03-06 16:00:07] <DoorToLukahn> No.
  191. [2011-03-06 16:00:10] <Dan36> The group should really link / affiliate or whatever to the KH group with the most hits or that's most official...
  192. [2011-03-06 16:00:16] <Demonic_Saint> I'm logging
  193. [2011-03-06 16:00:17] <DoorToLukahn> Don't use Pastebin--they expire after a few days.
  194. [2011-03-06 16:00:23] <Asorailahd> Oh. :|
  195. [2011-03-06 16:00:26] <DoorToLukahn> I like www.freetexthost.com
  196. [2011-03-06 16:00:28] <Dan36> Freetexthost.
  197. [2011-03-06 16:00:31] <Dan36> Darn.
  198. [2011-03-06 16:00:36] <Dan36> Beaten to it.
  199. [2011-03-06 16:00:41] <Demonic_Saint> I'll put up the logs latter if you want
  200. [2011-03-06 16:00:43] <DoorToLukahn> 'Course, there is a size limit.
  201. [2011-03-06 16:00:49] <maggosh> You know I'm the one who introduced the wiki to fth, right?
  202. [2011-03-06 16:00:57] <FerreTrip> fth?
  203. [2011-03-06 16:01:05] <DoorToLukahn> So you may have to do Part 1 Chat and Part 2 Chat.
  204. [2011-03-06 16:01:08] <Demonic_Saint> Fifith?
  205. [2011-03-06 16:01:14] <Neumannz> MOVE ON
  206. [2011-03-06 16:01:18] <DoorToLukahn> ^
  207. [2011-03-06 16:01:30] <Soxra> please, dont use freetexthost
  208. [2011-03-06 16:01:34] <Soxra> it doesnt work on Shaw in Canada
  209. [2011-03-06 16:01:36] <DoorToLukahn> In my opinion, I'm unsure of what purpose we have in a Twitter and Facebook.
  210. [2011-03-06 16:01:37] <maggosh> Too late.
  211. [2011-03-06 16:01:51] <DoorToLukahn> YouTube is a definite since it has a place in the mainspace.
  212. [2011-03-06 16:01:53] <Demonic_Saint> I can post the logs on my Lab at the Wiki
  213. [2011-03-06 16:01:54] <FerreTrip> Right. *nods seriously* I dunno where else one could put a log online...
  214. [2011-03-06 16:01:55] <Asorailahd> Twitter is for announcing events and whatnot.
  215. [2011-03-06 16:02:04] <Asorailahd> Facebook is for spreading and finding our community out there.
  216. [2011-03-06 16:02:07] <Chitalian> We have the Trinity Archives for that.
  217. [2011-03-06 16:02:11] <DoorToLukahn> -_-
  218. [2011-03-06 16:02:13] <DoorToLukahn> Trinity Archives.
  219. [2011-03-06 16:02:14] <Chitalian> And the KHWiki is already a community.
  220. [2011-03-06 16:02:24] <Asorailahd> Again, advertising purposes.
  221. [2011-03-06 16:02:28] <DoorToLukahn> I promise I'll actually start writing posts for those now that I'm done with a class.
  222. [2011-03-06 16:02:34] <Chitalian> :/
  223. [2011-03-06 16:02:40] <Chitalian> Advertising what?
  224. [2011-03-06 16:02:43] <FerreTrip> Yeah, but KHWiki doesn't emphasize community as much as Facebook.
  225. [2011-03-06 16:02:46] <Asorailahd> The new wiki.
  226. [2011-03-06 16:02:49] <FerreTrip> At least in the social way.
  227. [2011-03-06 16:02:57] <Chitalian> The only reason I came upon the KHWiki FB was because I was already on the wiki.
  228. [2011-03-06 16:02:59] <DoorToLukahn> True point, FerreTrip.
  229. [2011-03-06 16:03:05] <Asorailahd> Weren't you one of the ones that wanted to advertise the wiki to bring in more users?
  230. [2011-03-06 16:03:05] <Dan36> Twitter and Facebook can bring in a new community that hasn't joined the wiki yet, and therefore don't know about the Trinity Archives.
  231. [2011-03-06 16:03:11] <DoorToLukahn> Being social isn't really a priority of the new KHWiki.
  232. [2011-03-06 16:03:19] <Asif> But if it's advertising in a social way, wouldn't it make more sense for the old wiki?
  233. [2011-03-06 16:03:35] <Chitalian> Yeah.
  234. [2011-03-06 16:03:40] <Dan36> ^ What Auror said.
  235. [2011-03-06 16:03:41] <DoorToLukahn> With KHWikia being a fansite, I'm sure they'll go ahead and make being social important.
  236. [2011-03-06 16:03:43] <Chitalian> Then we could give the FB and Twitter to them.
  237. [2011-03-06 16:03:53] <maggosh> I'm right here.
  238. [2011-03-06 16:03:56] <maggosh> ...
  239. [2011-03-06 16:03:56] <KrytenKoro> Although we don't want to be a fandom-based wiki like the wikia, we DO still want to be findable
  240. [2011-03-06 16:04:07] <DoorToLukahn> True, true.
  241. [2011-03-06 16:04:14] <KrytenKoro> as it is, wikia's sweetheart deal with google keeps us from being found at all
  242. [2011-03-06 16:04:17] <Chitalian> We still don't show up on google.
  243. [2011-03-06 16:04:21] <Chitalian> >.>
  244. [2011-03-06 16:04:23] <KrytenKoro> we might need to lookt at possibly contacting them about that
  245. [2011-03-06 16:04:27] <Chitalian> Even when KHWiki is typed in.
  246. [2011-03-06 16:04:32] <KrytenKoro> yes
  247. [2011-03-06 16:04:42] <DoorToLukahn> But if we do that, I guess we should make the Twitter/Facebook very formal, so that are posts attract people to our events--not our @user side-conversations.
  248. [2011-03-06 16:04:49] <Asif> How would we contact google about that?
  249. [2011-03-06 16:04:51] <FerreTrip> What about if "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" is typed?
  250. [2011-03-06 16:04:55] <maggosh> "And while you're at it, can you give us a YouTube partnership?"
  251. [2011-03-06 16:05:02] <Dan36> But then KHWiki Facebook and Twitter would probably show up, then they in turn would link to us.
  252. [2011-03-06 16:05:08] <Chitalian> It's still wikia, FerreTrip
  253. [2011-03-06 16:05:22] <KrytenKoro> it looks like their sweetheart deal got even sweeter since tfwiki moved, since we've had the same surplus of activity they did, and they only took a few days to start showing up at the top of google
  254. [2011-03-06 16:05:24] <DoorToLukahn> What we need is a big ol' notice on KHWikia's from page.
  255. [2011-03-06 16:05:25] <FerreTrip> Yipe O_O Yeah, shoot...
  256. [2011-03-06 16:05:42] <DoorToLukahn> front*
  257. [2011-03-06 16:05:45] <FerreTrip> I've gotta get going, now. I'll be back as soon as I can ^^
  258. [2011-03-06 16:05:47] <Chitalian> We shouldn't even have the words "KHWiki" on the wikia.
  259. [2011-03-06 16:05:55] <KrytenKoro> no
  260. [2011-03-06 16:06:05] <KrytenKoro> we promised that we'd only leave that message up until the end of February
  261. [2011-03-06 16:06:11] <DoorToLukahn> Oh, we did?
  262. [2011-03-06 16:06:17] <Asif> When?
  263. [2011-03-06 16:06:17] <DoorToLukahn> M'ka.
  264. [2011-03-06 16:06:18] <maggosh> Yes.
  265. [2011-03-06 16:06:22] <maggosh> Didn't you get the memo?
  266. [2011-03-06 16:06:28] <KrytenKoro> we can ask for affiliateship
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  268. [2011-03-06 16:06:43] <DoorToLukahn> Also, off-topic, but still within noticeboard: http://www.khwiki.net/Forum:Cleanup_of_the_Month
  269. [2011-03-06 16:06:55] <Dan36> We did the affiliates yesterday, didn't we?
  270. [2011-03-06 16:07:00] <DoorToLukahn> Yes.
  271. [2011-03-06 16:07:07] <KrytenKoro> also, we need to make sure any off-wiki sites we keep link to the new site
  272. [2011-03-06 16:07:11] <Asorailahd> Yeah, but for the time being.
  273. [2011-03-06 16:07:12] <KrytenKoro> that's part of the google algorithm
  274. [2011-03-06 16:07:13] <Dan36> I was going to eventually link to that, DTN... =P
  275. [2011-03-06 16:07:16] <Chitalian> Do all of our youtube affiliates link to khwiki.net?
  276. [2011-03-06 16:07:24] <DoorToLukahn> Nope.
  277. [2011-03-06 16:07:31] <Chitalian> ._.
  278. [2011-03-06 16:07:31] <DoorToLukahn> YouTube affiliates are linkin' to KHWikia.
  279. [2011-03-06 16:07:43] <Asif> Let's change that!
  280. [2011-03-06 16:07:48] <Dan36> Because we hadn't informed them that we moved.
  281. [2011-03-06 16:07:55] <Dan36> Until yesterday?
  282. [2011-03-06 16:07:58] <Dan36> Right?
  283. [2011-03-06 16:10:10] <KrytenKoro> I need to do the Drive form articles, I know
  284. [2011-03-06 16:10:59] <Dan36> While we're linking to things, Can I bring up something?
  285. [2011-03-06 16:11:28] <Asorailahd> I'm all ears.
  286. [2011-03-06 16:11:55] <Dan36> http://www.khwiki.net/KHWiki_talk:Traverse_Town#Updated.21
  287. [2011-03-06 16:12:23] <Dan36> I think I'm done updating it, but does anyone think there should be something else on the page?
  288. [2011-03-06 16:12:36] <Asif> Nope.
  289. [2011-03-06 16:12:55] <Asorailahd> Hm, did you put the forum that let's you request problems your having with the host?
  290. [2011-03-06 16:13:05] <Asorailahd> Like the wiki is being slow, or images aren't showing up.
  291. [2011-03-06 16:13:31] <Dan36> Hmm... That would be a good thing to add.
  292. [2011-03-06 16:13:36] <Dan36> Can you give me a link?
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  295. [2011-03-06 16:14:29] <Demonic_Saint> KHWiki also has a photobucket acount right?
  296. [2011-03-06 16:14:57] <Asorailahd> Yes, I forgot about that.
  297. [2011-03-06 16:14:59] <Dan36> Ooh, good point.
  298. [2011-03-06 16:15:29] <Asif> Yeah, the one we're supposed to be uploading the 358/2 Days talkbubble images to.
  299. [2011-03-06 16:15:32] <KrytenKoro> ah good
  300. [2011-03-06 16:15:37] <KrytenKoro> we need to keep the photobucket
  301. [2011-03-06 16:15:38] <Demonic_Saint> Who holds the "key" to it?
  302. [2011-03-06 16:15:45] <KrytenKoro> we absolutely have to keep the youtube and photobucket
  303. [2011-03-06 16:15:52] <Asorailahd> DoorToNothing, LegoAlchemist, others..
  304. [2011-03-06 16:15:53] <Demonic_Saint> Yes
  305. [2011-03-06 16:16:02] <Asif> And the "mayors".
  306. [2011-03-06 16:16:22] <DoorToLukahn> Yes.
  307. [2011-03-06 16:16:45] <KrytenKoro> the twitter, do we all agree that it needs to be transferred to the khwiki?
  308. [2011-03-06 16:16:56] <Demonic_Saint> =w=b
  309. [2011-03-06 16:17:25] <Chitalian> I don't think we need it, but if we must keep it, then I'd say to transfer it.
  310. [2011-03-06 16:17:46] <Asorailahd> Dan36, unfortunately, I can't find that forum.
  311. [2011-03-06 16:17:52] <Dan36> Transfer? But it's already the KHWiki's, isn't it?
  312. [2011-03-06 16:18:07] <Demonic_Saint> http://www.khwiki.net/Forum:Bug_reports
  313. [2011-03-06 16:18:09] <Asorailahd> Ah!
  314. [2011-03-06 16:18:09] <Demonic_Saint> ^Here
  315. [2011-03-06 16:18:11] <Asif> As in, the Wikia and not the new one.
  316. [2011-03-06 16:18:11] <Asorailahd> Found it!
  317. [2011-03-06 16:18:15] <Asorailahd> http://www.khwiki.net/Forum:Bug_reports
  318. [2011-03-06 16:18:17] <Demonic_Saint> lol
  319. [2011-03-06 16:18:24] <Dan36> OKay, thanks.
  320. [2011-03-06 16:18:25] <Demonic_Saint> I was faster :3
  321. [2011-03-06 16:19:49] <Demonic_Saint> I just noticed... that the Tweets in english are all KHWiki related...
  322. [2011-03-06 16:20:24] <Chitalian> Any other orders of business?
  323. [2011-03-06 16:20:28] <Demonic_Saint> So I guess... Wikia will have no problem loosing the Twitter
  324. [2011-03-06 16:20:41] <Demonic_Saint> But there is still the French Wikia
  325. [2011-03-06 16:21:38] <Neumannz> let's move on for now
  326. [2011-03-06 16:21:57] <Neumannz> really, this is a topic that should be discussed with people at the wikia, anyway
  327. [2011-03-06 16:22:47] <Neumannz> since it directly affects their resources
  328. [2011-03-06 16:23:01] <Demonic_Saint> Indeed
  329. [2011-03-06 16:23:16] <Asif> Enim.
  330. [2011-03-06 16:23:19] <Dan36> Can someone link me to the KHWiki's photobucket account?
  331. [2011-03-06 16:23:45] <Asorailahd> Will do.
  332. [2011-03-06 16:24:19] <KrytenKoro> KHWiki
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  334. [2011-03-06 16:24:23] <KrytenKoro> is the twitter's name
  335. [2011-03-06 16:24:26] <KrytenKoro> ...hrm
  336. [2011-03-06 16:24:37] <FerreTrip> Back
  337. [2011-03-06 16:24:51] <Dan36> I thought we established that ALL of the sites are called KHWiki.
  338. [2011-03-06 16:24:51] <KrytenKoro> so we have to keep it
  339. [2011-03-06 16:25:14] <FerreTrip> What's going on now, what'd I miss?
  340. [2011-03-06 16:25:18] <Asif> Technically, we don't have to do anything.
  341. [2011-03-06 16:25:37] <Demonic_Saint> If we are not going to keep it.. we will have to ask them to change the names
  342. [2011-03-06 16:25:53] <Neumannz> assuming twitter accounts can be renamed
  343. [2011-03-06 16:25:59] <Demonic_Saint> http://s932.photobucket.com/home/KH-Wiki#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ24 Is this by any chance the Photobucket Account
  344. [2011-03-06 16:26:04] <Demonic_Saint> They can, I do it all the time
  345. [2011-03-06 16:26:12] <DoorToLukahn> Yes.
  346. [2011-03-06 16:26:16] <FerreTrip> (Same stuff, didn't miss much, did I?)
  347. [2011-03-06 16:26:37] <Dan36> Thanks.
  348. [2011-03-06 16:27:04] <Asorailahd> http://s932.photobucket.com/albums/ad165/KH-Wiki/ <-- Found it
  349. [2011-03-06 16:27:53] <Demonic_Saint> And once again... I was faster :3
  350. [2011-03-06 16:28:14] <Asorailahd> :/
  351. [2011-03-06 16:28:48] <Dan36> http://www.khwiki.net/KHWiki:Traverse_Town#World_Exit Pow.
  352. [2011-03-06 16:28:54] <Dan36> Looks okay?
  353. [2011-03-06 16:29:11] <Demonic_Saint> =w=b
  354. [2011-03-06 16:29:22] <Chitalian> Yup.
  355. [2011-03-06 16:29:31] <Chitalian> I thought we were moving on?
  356. [2011-03-06 16:29:40] <Demonic_Saint> lol... the MA is at the Mystical House...
  357. [2011-03-06 16:29:51] <Asif> Lastly, we should link to Photobucket on the mainpage.
  358. [2011-03-06 16:30:01] <Asorailahd> No.
  359. [2011-03-06 16:30:11] <Chitalian> Why not?
  360. [2011-03-06 16:30:37] <FerreTrip> I see no reason to link to Photof--er, -bucket on the main page. Why would people wanna go there from the main wiki page, anyway?
  361. [2011-03-06 16:31:00] <FerreTrip> Wouldn't it just be a place to store pics for use on the wiki itself?
  362. [2011-03-06 16:31:18] <Dan36> DS, is that bad? I couldn't think of where else to put it... =S
  363. [2011-03-06 16:31:31] <Chitalian> It's a source for things like archive images and talk sprites.
  364. [2011-03-06 16:31:34] <Demonic_Saint> No, it's okay..
  365. [2011-03-06 16:31:57] <Dan36> Cool.
  366. [2011-03-06 16:32:04] =-= Dan36 is now known as Dan|Food
  367. [2011-03-06 16:32:08] <Dan|Food> Back soon.
  368. [2011-03-06 16:33:47] <Asorailahd> Well, seeing that reason, I would think we should do that to host other images off-wiki.
  369. [2011-03-06 16:33:50] <FerreTrip> Well, I think the logic here is that people coming to look at the wiki's pages won't care about the Photobucket page, and might wonder why it's there. If editors want to easilly find it, it should probably go where the other off-site links are, or at least in some other handy place.
  370. [2011-03-06 16:34:01] <maggosh> Well, if that's all, I'll be going.
  371. [2011-03-06 16:34:04] <Asorailahd> Although, there's a guarantee that there would be some abuse to the account.
  372. [2011-03-06 16:34:07] <FerreTrip> But we should use Photobucket or something to host our images, definitely.
  373. [2011-03-06 16:34:21] <Asorailahd> STOP CONFLICTING ME.
  374. [2011-03-06 16:34:24] <Chitalian> We use Photobucket for unofficial images.
  375. [2011-03-06 16:34:31] <maggosh> *used
  376. [2011-03-06 16:34:32] <DoorToLukahn> LET'S MOVE ON.
  377. [2011-03-06 16:34:41] <KrytenKoro> we should link to all of our off-wiki sites, I think
  378. [2011-03-06 16:34:47] <Chitalian> Mkay.
  379. [2011-03-06 16:34:55] <DoorToLukahn> [12:34] <Neumannz> we still haven't covered the audit, yet
  380. [2011-03-06 16:35:15] <Asorailahd> I thought we decided they had to decide to link with us, or the other wiki.
  381. [2011-03-06 16:35:32] <Demonic_Saint> This time we got too much on topic... it's getting hard to change it :P
  382. [2011-03-06 16:35:39] <DoorToLukahn> asdfjkl;
  383. [2011-03-06 16:35:39] <maggosh> [14:33] <maggosh> Well, if that's all, I'll be going.
  384. [2011-03-06 16:35:55] <Demonic_Saint> Okay... the audit
  385. [2011-03-06 16:35:59] <Demonic_Saint> What about it?
  386. [2011-03-06 16:36:04] <Asorailahd> maggosh, I don't think this is over yet.
  387. [2011-03-06 16:36:12] <FerreTrip> (And with my luck, I'll be out again while we cover it...) I think he means that we should link to there so that people can go from here to there.
  388. [2011-03-06 16:36:22] <FerreTrip> Links are one-way, after all.
  389. [2011-03-06 16:36:44] <DoorToLukahn> KrytenKoro, what of the audit?
  390. [2011-03-06 16:36:48] |<-- LightMouse has left freenode (Quit: BRB)
  391. [2011-03-06 16:37:05] <KrytenKoro> okay
  392. [2011-03-06 16:37:10] <KrytenKoro> who here worked on the audit?
  393. [2011-03-06 16:37:20] <FerreTrip> *raises paw*
  394. [2011-03-06 16:37:26] <FerreTrip> *...er, hand*
  395. [2011-03-06 16:37:39] <Chitalian> I did, a little.
  396. [2011-03-06 16:37:40] <FerreTrip> Still got 39 pages to check, actually.
  397. [2011-03-06 16:38:04] -->| Xion4ever (4b75ded7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.117.222.215) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  398. [2011-03-06 16:38:08] <Demonic_Saint> Hey Xion
  399. [2011-03-06 16:38:17] <Xion4ever> Hey there.
  400. [2011-03-06 16:38:19] <maggosh> Oh, hi Xion....
  401. [2011-03-06 16:38:22] =-= Mode #KHWiki-noticeboard +o Xion4ever by maggosh
  402. [2011-03-06 16:38:24] <FerreTrip> I talked to Dan and we agreed to split it up. I'm taking the latter half of his.
  403. [2011-03-06 16:38:40] <Xion4ever> maggosh, what's up with all Ops?
  404. [2011-03-06 16:38:43] <FerreTrip> Welcome to the meeting, Xion ^^
  405. [2011-03-06 16:38:47] <maggosh> You tell me...
  406. [2011-03-06 16:38:53] <Xion4ever> Yes, the meeting.
  407. [2011-03-06 16:39:01] <Xion4ever> How much of it have I missed?
  408. [2011-03-06 16:39:13] <Chitalian> 'Bout an hour.
  409. [2011-03-06 16:39:32] <Demonic_Saint> We were deciding what to do with the Twitter, Facebook and Photobucket account. Now we are discussing the audit
  410. [2011-03-06 16:39:34] <Asorailahd> Xion4ever: It's to make sure the rest of us don't get off-topic
  411. [2011-03-06 16:39:44] <Demonic_Saint> We are about to start
  412. [2011-03-06 16:39:46] <Asorailahd> If we do, then dtn goes +m.
  413. [2011-03-06 16:40:02] <Xion4ever> So, onto the serious business.
  414. [2011-03-06 16:41:20] <DoorToLukahn> Greetings, Xion.
  415. [2011-03-06 16:41:35] <Xion4ever> Hello there, DTN.
  416. [2011-03-06 16:41:42] <FerreTrip> ...The part I should be staying for, but will probably miss a good portion of...(if all goes well and I can get a ride to the mall.)
  417. [2011-03-06 16:42:14] <DoorToLukahn> KrytenKoro: I tried to, and the whole process was a mind-screw.
  418. [2011-03-06 16:42:39] <DoorToLukahn> I saw the way one user did it, and it looked fine. All jpgs were marked with {{Delete}} and {{Bad Name}} was used appropriately.
  419. [2011-03-06 16:42:50] <KrytenKoro> okay
  420. [2011-03-06 16:42:51] <KrytenKoro> auditors
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  422. [2011-03-06 16:42:56] <KrytenKoro> what process did you use?
  423. [2011-03-06 16:43:29] <Chitalian> I marked jpgs with badname and pointless images or duplicates with delete.
  424. [2011-03-06 16:43:31] <DoorToLukahn> Then I saw the way *cough* Crono *cough* someone else did it, and the whole thing was a bloody mess with tags missing EVERYWHERE. Images with totally coded names (8asdhfewlkj5r23KYOJIskhet.png for example) were left as fine and jpgs were left without {{Delete}}.
  425. [2011-03-06 16:43:34] <FerreTrip> You heard mine yesterday--Should I repeat for the good of the meeting?
  426. [2011-03-06 16:43:40] <DoorToLukahn> So... yeah, I'm totally lost on how to do this.
  427. [2011-03-06 16:43:57] <Chitalian> Yeah, images with numbers for names, I also badname'd those.
  428. [2011-03-06 16:44:24] <Xion4ever> Not sure what's going on entirely, but if I created a problem for the Wiki/IRC, please tell me so I may fix it.
  429. [2011-03-06 16:44:26] <Asif> I did it a while ago, but... I think I added "delete" to all fan-made images, and added "bad name" to any JPEGs. Sorry that I did it wrong.
  430. [2011-03-06 16:44:47] <Chitalian> Asif, sounds right.
  431. [2011-03-06 16:44:57] <Neumannz> {{betterpic}} is better for the jpgs
  432. [2011-03-06 16:45:10] <Neumannz> more appropriate, i mean
  433. [2011-03-06 16:45:33] <Chitalian> Also, .gif's that don't move.
  434. [2011-03-06 16:45:44] <Chitalian> DoorToLukahn, you have a lot of images left to sync.
  435. [2011-03-06 16:46:03] <DoorToLukahn> And I would do them if I had half an idea of how to do it.
  436. [2011-03-06 16:46:11] <FerreTrip> @Xion: I don't think you did anything wrong here in the IRC; Kryten asked who's an auditor (re-syncer) and now we're saying how we're re-syncing.
  437. [2011-03-06 16:46:13] <Chitalian> I could take some.
  438. [2011-03-06 16:46:28] <Neumannz> THE PROPER WAY TO AUDIT ARTICLES is to compare their content
  439. [2011-03-06 16:46:30] <Chitalian> I think it's like this.
  440. [2011-03-06 16:46:47] <Neumannz> for example, by copy-pasting and clicking "view changes"
  441. [2011-03-06 16:46:56] <FerreTrip> That's basically what I do.
  442. [2011-03-06 16:47:01] <Chitalian> Bad Name goes to images with: .jpg, .gif's that aren't animated, or images with bad names.
  443. [2011-03-06 16:47:27] <Chitalian> Delete goes to fanart and duplicates and such.
  444. [2011-03-06 16:47:37] <Neumannz> and then checking the differences to see if they're correct and appropriate to keep
  445. [2011-03-06 16:47:59] <KrytenKoro> FerreTrip, no
  446. [2011-03-06 16:48:12] <KrytenKoro> you're fine
  447. [2011-03-06 16:48:13] <FerreTrip> ?
  448. [2011-03-06 16:48:15] <KrytenKoro> everyone else:
  449. [2011-03-06 16:48:16] <FerreTrip> Oh, okay.
  450. [2011-03-06 16:48:26] <KrytenKoro> if you resynced articles, how did you do it?
  451. [2011-03-06 16:48:41] <Soxra> copy&paste + show changes
  452. [2011-03-06 16:48:59] <KrytenKoro> you copy-pasted the entire page?
  453. [2011-03-06 16:49:16] <Soxra> yeah, from wikia to khwiki
  454. [2011-03-06 16:49:17] <Soxra> then hit show changes
  455. [2011-03-06 16:49:33] <KrytenKoro> when there were changes, did you add them in selectively based on what looked appropriate, or did you just copy it all?
  456. [2011-03-06 16:49:56] <Soxra> the former, though i wasnt always right (Card section case-in-point)
  457. [2011-03-06 16:50:13] <Soxra> in all honesty though i came across only a few changes in the entire process
  458. [2011-03-06 16:50:40] <FerreTrip> I'm going to be off getting White now. I'll get on as SOON as I get back.
  459. [2011-03-06 16:50:50] =-= FerreTrip is now known as FT|White
  460. [2011-03-06 16:50:54] <KrytenKoro> okay
  461. [2011-03-06 16:51:00] <KrytenKoro> did everybody else use that process?
  462. [2011-03-06 16:51:46] =-= Dan|Food is now known as Dan36
  463. [2011-03-06 16:51:50] <Neumannz> (i was doing templates, but) i compared histories, then if they were different, or if there was a different number of bytes, i checked what the difference was
  464. [2011-03-06 16:51:52] <Asif> Basically, yeah.
  465. [2011-03-06 16:52:03] <KrytenKoro> basically?
  466. [2011-03-06 16:52:26] <Asif> Sorry, I can't really remember all that well, but I'm pretty sure I did.
  467. [2011-03-06 16:52:38] <Neumannz> i don't know if that's easier or not, but i was careful about it
  468. [2011-03-06 16:53:12] <Dan36> I resynched articles the "Show changes" way, and marked jpg images with {{Bad Name|name=.png format}} and pointless ones with {{delete}}.
  469. [2011-03-06 16:54:04] * DoorToLukahn is lost.
  470. [2011-03-06 16:54:12] <Asorailahd> Mymindislost, perhaps?
  471. [2011-03-06 16:54:30] <DoorToLukahn> No.
  472. [2011-03-06 16:54:42] <maggosh> I dunno, I find it quite straight-forward.
  473. [2011-03-06 16:55:41] <DoorToLukahn> Well, I certainly don't. Don't worry about me, though, I"ll figure it out via PMs. Let's move along.
  474. [2011-03-06 16:56:19] <KrytenKoro> okay
  475. [2011-03-06 16:56:29] <KrytenKoro> then, if that's the process that was used, everything should be fine
  476. [2011-03-06 16:57:00] <KrytenKoro> good
  477. [2011-03-06 16:57:51] <KrytenKoro> for images:
  478. [2011-03-06 16:57:54] <KrytenKoro> just to clarify
  479. [2011-03-06 16:57:59] <KrytenKoro> {{delete}} for fanart
  480. [2011-03-06 16:58:17] <KrytenKoro> {{bad name}} for anything that doesn't fit the naming standard (used on Keyblades and Worlds)
  481. [2011-03-06 16:58:29] <KrytenKoro> {{betterpic}} for any non .png or animated .gif
  482. [2011-03-06 16:58:41] <Dan36> Poo.
  483. [2011-03-06 16:59:03] <Dan36> I used {{Bad Name}} for non .png files... =/
  484. [2011-03-06 16:59:24] <Asorailahd> Well, now we all know.
  485. [2011-03-06 16:59:46] <Chitalian> Back.
  486. [2011-03-06 16:59:47] <Asif> That really clears things up. Thanks!
  487. [2011-03-06 17:00:03] <KrytenKoro> ok
  488. [2011-03-06 17:00:12] <KrytenKoro> as for linking to the old wikia -
  489. [2011-03-06 17:00:30] <KrytenKoro> it should be reasonable to list them as an affiliate
  490. [2011-03-06 17:00:46] <Chitalian> Yeah, I used Badname for .jpgs D:
  491. [2011-03-06 17:02:47] <Neumannz> yes, it is reasonable
  492. [2011-03-06 17:05:22] <DoorToLukahn> I agree, it gives us more traffic too.
  493. [2011-03-06 17:05:58] <Demonic_Saint> But it could attract wiki-princess
  494. [2011-03-06 17:06:34] <DoorToLukahn> True.
  495. [2011-03-06 17:06:38] <Chitalian> We'd tell them to go back to wikia.
  496. [2011-03-06 17:06:45] <Dan36> I reckon we should affiliate.
  497. [2011-03-06 17:06:55] <DoorToLukahn> Though a wiki isn't without a few of them, sadl--oh God Chitalian, that would be hysterical.
  498. [2011-03-06 17:06:56] <Dan36> For all the reasons I gave yesterday.
  499. [2011-03-06 17:07:04] <KrytenKoro> maggosh
  500. [2011-03-06 17:07:13] <KrytenKoro> as the only active staff at KHWikia
  501. [2011-03-06 17:07:39] <KrytenKoro> someone mentioned wanting to rename the wikia to "Kingdom Hearts World"
  502. [2011-03-06 17:07:41] <KrytenKoro> your thoughts?
  503. [2011-03-06 17:08:01] <Asorailahd> No.
  504. [2011-03-06 17:08:12] <KrytenKoro> oh
  505. [2011-03-06 17:08:15] <maggosh> Well, I do believe the Wikia warrents a rename, but to my knowledge, Kingdom Hearts World is already taken.
  506. [2011-03-06 17:08:18] <KrytenKoro> it turns out someone else has that name
  507. [2011-03-06 17:08:20] <KrytenKoro> ok
  508. [2011-03-06 17:08:33] <maggosh> *warrants
  509. [2011-03-06 17:08:40] <KrytenKoro> KHpedia?
  510. [2011-03-06 17:08:44] <KrytenKoro> I dunno
  511. [2011-03-06 17:08:56] <KrytenKoro> this warrants a forum on the wikia, I think
  512. [2011-03-06 17:09:02] <KrytenKoro> if you have any desire to do it
  513. [2011-03-06 17:09:02] <maggosh> For that, I'll have to start a forum so editors can compile their suggestions.
  514. [2011-03-06 17:09:05] <KrytenKoro> right
  515. [2011-03-06 17:09:07] <KrytenKoro> okay
  516. [2011-03-06 17:09:12] <KrytenKoro> next order of business:
  517. [2011-03-06 17:09:14] <KrytenKoro> Oasis
  518. [2011-03-06 17:09:14] <Demonic_Saint> WiKingdomHeartspedia... *is shot*
  519. [2011-03-06 17:09:27] <Demonic_Saint> We should get it
  520. [2011-03-06 17:09:36] <KrytenKoro> Okay
  521. [2011-03-06 17:09:46] <KrytenKoro> so, there is definite desire to have Oasis on the KHWiki?
  522. [2011-03-06 17:09:50] <Demonic_Saint> Some people (not me) actually do like Oasis
  523. [2011-03-06 17:10:06] <Xion4ever> Odd.
  524. [2011-03-06 17:10:14] <maggosh> Me, as well.
  525. [2011-03-06 17:10:15] <Chitalian> I must say, I got used to it.
  526. [2011-03-06 17:10:19] <maggosh> With that CSS modifier.
  527. [2011-03-06 17:10:22] <KrytenKoro> okay
  528. [2011-03-06 17:10:32] <KrytenKoro> then a forum should be opened in a Gummi Garage
  529. [2011-03-06 17:10:36] <Chitalian> We could change it so that the page width stays the same.
  530. [2011-03-06 17:11:32] <Demonic_Saint> Speaking fo Foruns... the Heartless Manufactory
  531. [2011-03-06 17:11:36] <Demonic_Saint> Did it die?
  532. [2011-03-06 17:12:49] <Neumannz> no
  533. [2011-03-06 17:13:03] <Dan36> No, we discussed this a little yesterday.
  534. [2011-03-06 17:13:12] <Dan36> We all thought it was good.
  535. [2011-03-06 17:14:19] <Demonic_Saint> I don't like the name tho...
  536. [2011-03-06 17:14:23] <Chitalian> Also, speaking of forums, should Cloudofdarkness still be listed as the Twilight Town Library moderator?
  537. [2011-03-06 17:14:32] |<-- Asorailahd has left freenode (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
  538. [2011-03-06 17:15:26] <KrytenKoro> we have forum moderators?
  539. [2011-03-06 17:15:41] <KrytenKoro> Heartless Manufactory: it is completely alive
  540. [2011-03-06 17:15:45] <Chitalian> Apparently, for the TTL
  541. [2011-03-06 17:15:50] <KrytenKoro> the problem is that we haven't needed to use it yet
  542. [2011-03-06 17:16:04] <Chitalian> http://www.khwiki.net/index.php?title=Forum:Twilight_Town_Library&t=20110305210442
  543. [2011-03-06 17:16:19] <Chitalian> Description of the forum: "Welcome to Twilight Town, a forum where you can talk about anything Kingdom Hearts related. From help on part of a game, to who you think is the best character. Cloudofdarkness is this forum's Moderator"
  544. [2011-03-06 17:16:26] <Xion4ever> Chitalian, I believe there was a discussion on that in a past forum..
  545. [2011-03-06 17:16:37] <Chitalian> Xion4ever, yeah I brought it up XD
  546. [2011-03-06 17:16:52] <Xion4ever> I thought so. ^_^
  547. [2011-03-06 17:17:18] <KrytenKoro> okay
  548. [2011-03-06 17:17:27] <Demonic_Saint> Cause... a Manufactory is to produce things... and Heartless are bad beings... so a Heartless Manufactory kinda sounds like a Troll Training Ground
  549. [2011-03-06 17:17:40] <KrytenKoro> so, that all sounds in order now
  550. [2011-03-06 17:18:06] <KrytenKoro> finally:
  551. [2011-03-06 17:18:16] <KrytenKoro> back to the audit, and what comes next
  552. [2011-03-06 17:18:34] <KrytenKoro> right now, we are mostly done with the main and file namespaces
  553. [2011-03-06 17:18:42] <Neumannz> need to do the other namespaces next
  554. [2011-03-06 17:18:43] <KrytenKoro> we need to make sure to cover EACH of the other namespaces
  555. [2011-03-06 17:18:47] <KrytenKoro> right
  556. [2011-03-06 17:19:02] <Neumannz> i only just started doing the templates
  557. [2011-03-06 17:19:05] <KrytenKoro> right
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  559. [2011-03-06 17:19:14] <Neumannz> there needs to be a couple guidelines on those, though
  560. [2011-03-06 17:19:21] <Neumannz> especially re: categories
  561. [2011-03-06 17:19:22] <KrytenKoro> and after that, we need to start fixing the files
  562. [2011-03-06 17:19:30] <KrytenKoro> categories?
  563. [2011-03-06 17:19:54] <KrytenKoro> the heart has emotions, anger etc.
  564. [2011-03-06 17:19:59] <KrytenKoro> Heartless don't have emotions
  565. [2011-03-06 17:20:04] <Neumannz> well, for example, a lot of templates YOU made don't have any categories at all, kryten
  566. [2011-03-06 17:20:05] <KrytenKoro> they just do work like they're supposed to
  567. [2011-03-06 17:20:09] <KrytenKoro> ahahaa
  568. [2011-03-06 17:20:10] <KrytenKoro> yes
  569. [2011-03-06 17:20:26] <KrytenKoro> we could make an "uncategorized templates" template?
  570. [2011-03-06 17:20:51] <KrytenKoro> (and not categorize that template itself)
  571. [2011-03-06 17:21:41] <Neumannz> what do you mean by "not categorize that template itself"?
  572. [2011-03-06 17:22:01] <Neumannz> it'd be a maintenance template
  573. [2011-03-06 17:22:06] <Demonic_Saint> ^
  574. [2011-03-06 17:24:50] <Neumannz> and probably it should be "badly categorized", since there are a number of those that are just not cat'd right
  575. [2011-03-06 17:25:18] <Neumannz> like infoboxes as "utility templates"
  576. [2011-03-06 17:25:30] <KrytenKoro> I meant it so that it would be funny
  577. [2011-03-06 17:27:14] <Demonic_Saint> This is no place for fun KK! This is serious business! *is shot*
  578. [2011-03-06 17:27:27] =-= Asorailahd is now known as Auror|Sims
  579. [2011-03-06 17:29:14] <Xion4ever> Although I really haven't been active in this meeting, I have to go. If there's anything you guys need me to do/I need to be told, just ping me on my talkpage.
  580. [2011-03-06 17:29:37] <--| Xion4ever has left #KHWiki-noticeboard
  581. [2011-03-06 17:30:03] <Demonic_Saint> So, I got contact with TNE, she is coming now
  582. [2011-03-06 17:30:10] <Demonic_Saint> We can ask her about the Twitter
  583. [2011-03-06 17:30:15] |<-- Asif has left freenode ()
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  585. [2011-03-06 17:31:18] <Demonic_Saint> TNE!
  586. [2011-03-06 17:31:19] <Demonic_Saint> SALUT!
  587. [2011-03-06 17:31:20] =-= Mode #KHWiki-noticeboard +o troisnyxetienne by Neumannz
  588. [2011-03-06 17:31:20] <Demonic_Saint> ;D
  589. [2011-03-06 17:31:54] <troisnyxetienne> DS
  590. [2011-03-06 17:31:56] <troisnyxetienne> SALUT
  591. [2011-03-06 17:31:57] <KrytenKoro> sweet
  592. [2011-03-06 17:32:02] <troisnyxetienne> Hey guys. ^_^
  593. [2011-03-06 17:32:03] <KrytenKoro> can one of the ops fill her in?
  594. [2011-03-06 17:32:06] <KrytenKoro> heyo
  595. [2011-03-06 17:32:12] <Neumannz> sure
  596. [2011-03-06 17:32:46] <Dan36> Hey TNE =)
  597. [2011-03-06 17:33:11] <troisnyxetienne> DAN
  598. [2011-03-06 17:33:13] <troisnyxetienne> SALUT
  599. [2011-03-06 17:33:15] <troisnyxetienne> :D
  600. [2011-03-06 17:34:55] <KrytenKoro> okay
  601. [2011-03-06 17:34:56] <KrytenKoro> so
  602. [2011-03-06 17:35:00] <KrytenKoro> after the full-audit is done
  603. [2011-03-06 17:35:13] <KrytenKoro> files
  604. [2011-03-06 17:35:17] <KrytenKoro> we need to go through the files
  605. [2011-03-06 17:35:28] <KrytenKoro> delete all fanart, moving them to photobucket when necessary
  606. [2011-03-06 17:35:35] <KrytenKoro> rename all the images
  607. [2011-03-06 17:35:36] <KrytenKoro> etc.
  608. [2011-03-06 17:35:42] <troisnyxetienne> Got it.
  609. [2011-03-06 17:35:50] <KrytenKoro> meanwhile
  610. [2011-03-06 17:35:52] <troisnyxetienne> I've done quite a bit with the talk template images, though some are still in use.
  611. [2011-03-06 17:35:59] <Chitalian> There's still so many talk sprites that aren't marked for deletion.
  612. [2011-03-06 17:36:04] <KrytenKoro> we need to get the sidebar working for monaco
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  614. [2011-03-06 17:37:01] <KrytenKoro_> muddercensor!
  615. [2011-03-06 17:37:03] <Chitalian> o.o
  616. [2011-03-06 17:37:05] <KrytenKoro_> anyway
  617. [2011-03-06 17:37:40] -->| KrytenKoro__ (180d7d56@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.13.125.86) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  618. [2011-03-06 17:37:47] <KrytenKoro__> muddermuddercensor!
  619. [2011-03-06 17:37:51] <Demonic_Saint> KK... you okay?
  620. [2011-03-06 17:38:02] <Chitalian> The site is still slow as hell.
  621. [2011-03-06 17:38:43] <Demonic_Saint> indeed
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  623. [2011-03-06 17:39:20] <KrytenKoro___> $#W%@$#%#$%#$^
  624. [2011-03-06 17:39:22] <KrytenKoro___> okay
  625. [2011-03-06 17:39:28] <KrytenKoro___> we need to get the monaco sidebar working
  626. [2011-03-06 17:39:40] <Chitalian> o.o
  627. [2011-03-06 17:40:04] <Demonic_Saint> What's wrong with the sidebar?
  628. [2011-03-06 17:40:22] <Chitalian> It's not expandable/collapsable (whatever the word is)
  629. [2011-03-06 17:40:26] |<-- KrytenKoro has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  630. [2011-03-06 17:40:36] <Demonic_Saint> Ahhh
  631. [2011-03-06 17:40:42] <Chitalian> Like when you mouseover it and a bunch of options pop out to the side.
  632. [2011-03-06 17:40:43] <Demonic_Saint> Yeah... I noticed it
  633. [2011-03-06 17:41:16] |<-- KrytenKoro_ has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  634. [2011-03-06 17:41:44] <Demonic_Saint> 2 KK's gone, 2 remaining
  635. [2011-03-06 17:42:06] |<-- KrytenKoro__ has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  636. [2011-03-06 17:42:18] <Demonic_Saint> 3Kk's gone, one remaining
  637. [2011-03-06 17:42:37] <troisnyxetienne> That is a lot, but I only see one.
  638. [2011-03-06 17:42:45] =-= FT|White is now known as FerreTrip
  639. [2011-03-06 17:42:48] <FerreTrip> Back
  640. [2011-03-06 17:42:55] <KrytenKoro___> the code is started
  641. [2011-03-06 17:43:16] <KrytenKoro___> inexistent had some luck with it
  642. [2011-03-06 17:43:22] <KrytenKoro___> but it needs to be fine-tuned
  643. [2011-03-06 17:43:38] <KrytenKoro___> until it works
  644. [2011-03-06 17:43:39] <Chitalian> I thought Soxra knew how to do it.
  645. [2011-03-06 17:43:40] <KrytenKoro___> anyway
  646. [2011-03-06 17:43:51] <KrytenKoro___> once we get our version of the monaco skin fully operaple
  647. [2011-03-06 17:44:05] <KrytenKoro___> it's time to start looking to get other independent wikis
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  649. [2011-03-06 17:44:22] <KrytenKoro___> DTN: Silver said he opened a forum, and the FF wiki no longer wants to move
  650. [2011-03-06 17:44:27] <FerreTrip> (Could someone PM me and tell me what I missed?)
  651. [2011-03-06 17:48:01] <FerreTrip> Should we consider talking to the The World Ends with You Wiki? They're SE.
  652. [2011-03-06 17:48:20] <troisnyxetienne> Yes, I believe we should.
  653. [2011-03-06 17:48:28] <troisnyxetienne> TWEWY, the Mana series if we can find them...
  654. [2011-03-06 17:48:41] <troisnyxetienne> If FFW does not want to move, we find the rest of the SE group.
  655. [2011-03-06 17:49:12] <FerreTrip> Though FF really should be part of the alliance...Oh, let's not forget Dragon Quest, either.
  656. [2011-03-06 17:49:17] <Chitalian> Cronopedia?
  657. [2011-03-06 17:49:19] <DoorToLukahn> Huhwhat?
  658. [2011-03-06 17:49:30] <DoorToLukahn> Well darn.
  659. [2011-03-06 17:49:33] <troisnyxetienne> Yes agree.
  660. [2011-03-06 17:49:34] <DoorToLukahn> That's disappointing.
  661. [2011-03-06 17:49:37] <troisnyxetienne> I know right?
  662. [2011-03-06 17:49:48] <DoorToLukahn> But there's still time for the to change that decision if SEIWA grows as great as we want it to be.
  663. [2011-03-06 17:49:52] <maggosh> ...DTN, you'd think you'd already know if FFWiki was going to move or not.
  664. [2011-03-06 17:49:55] <troisnyxetienne> Cronopedia, Dragon Quest, TWEWY, the Seiken Densetsu series...
  665. [2011-03-06 17:50:02] <troisnyxetienne> We get them, or at least we try.
  666. [2011-03-06 17:50:05] <DoorToLukahn> Eh, Drake and Fae had been kind of iffy.
  667. [2011-03-06 17:50:15] <troisnyxetienne> In what way?...
  668. [2011-03-06 17:50:34] <DoorToLukahn> So no, maggosh, I, having actually made the effort to make personal attempts to contact members of their staff, did not know.
  669. [2011-03-06 17:51:05] <DoorToLukahn> They kind of seem settled in Wikia.
  670. [2011-03-06 17:51:10] <KrytenKoro___> meh
  671. [2011-03-06 17:51:14] <KrytenKoro___> their loss
  672. [2011-03-06 17:51:19] <DoorToLukahn> Oh well. And yes, their loss indeed.
  673. [2011-03-06 17:51:24] <troisnyxetienne> Oh well, they'll change their minds at some point.
  674. [2011-03-06 17:51:28] <KrytenKoro___> okay
  675. [2011-03-06 17:51:30] <KrytenKoro___> so
  676. [2011-03-06 17:51:33] <DoorToLukahn> The <s>Palamecian</s> SEIWA Empire waits for no faction!
  677. [2011-03-06 17:51:47] <KrytenKoro___> honestly, it seems like we managed to cover all the bases
  678. [2011-03-06 17:51:49] <troisnyxetienne> Indeed, it's ultimately their decision.
  679. [2011-03-06 17:51:51] <troisnyxetienne> Oh?
  680. [2011-03-06 17:52:08] <Demonic_Saint> And the Twitter thing.. that's TNE's ground
  681. [2011-03-06 17:52:11] <Demonic_Saint> ?
  682. [2011-03-06 17:52:32] <troisnyxetienne> Yes.
  683. [2011-03-06 17:52:33] <troisnyxetienne> For now.
  684. [2011-03-06 17:52:35] <troisnyxetienne> Though...
  685. [2011-03-06 17:52:52] <troisnyxetienne> I'd like a panel to help me with it - I'm not on throughout the day, even though I'm at GMT (soon GMT+1).
  686. [2011-03-06 17:53:29] <troisnyxetienne> There was one earlier, but sooner or later I seemed to be the only one running it, and because of coursework,
  687. [2011-03-06 17:53:34] <troisnyxetienne> I might not be able to handle this by myself.
  688. [2011-03-06 17:53:39] <Demonic_Saint> I can try go back tweeting
  689. [2011-03-06 17:53:40] <troisnyxetienne> I will not*
  690. [2011-03-06 17:53:41] <DoorToLukahn> Understood.
  691. [2011-03-06 17:53:45] <Demonic_Saint> Tho... school is killing me...
  692. [2011-03-06 17:53:51] <Chitalian> What else is there to cover?
  693. [2011-03-06 17:54:04] <Demonic_Saint> But... we will claim it our own?
  694. [2011-03-06 17:54:07] <KrytenKoro___> tne: will the twitter move with the khwiki?
  695. [2011-03-06 17:54:28] <DoorToLukahn> Hey, TNE... didn't KHFR express some desire to move?
  696. [2011-03-06 17:54:45] <maggosh> I must be off.
  697. [2011-03-06 17:54:56] <troisnyxetienne> Yes, though I still have to ask the rest.
  698. [2011-03-06 17:55:13] <troisnyxetienne> Unbirth is hesitating. I have not asked Thomaskh2 (our other admin) and their likes...
  699. [2011-03-06 17:55:19] <troisnyxetienne> Kryten: Yes.
  700. [2011-03-06 17:55:20] <--| maggosh has left #KHWiki-noticeboard
  701. [2011-03-06 17:55:21] <troisnyxetienne> It already has.
  702. [2011-03-06 17:55:28] <troisnyxetienne> I've switched the link,
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  704. [2011-03-06 17:55:31] <KrytenKoro> %#$(*($&#($&(*(!)&$@!()#&@(!#
  705. [2011-03-06 17:55:33] <KrytenKoro> okay
  706. [2011-03-06 17:55:39] <KrytenKoro> meh
  707. [2011-03-06 17:55:49] <KrytenKoro> it seems we've covered everything
  708. [2011-03-06 17:55:55] <DoorToLukahn> Question!
  709. [2011-03-06 17:55:58] <KrytenKoro> or at least, we have an action list
  710. [2011-03-06 17:56:01] <DoorToLukahn> Question!
  711. [2011-03-06 17:56:02] <KrytenKoro> yes?
  712. [2011-03-06 17:56:15] <DoorToLukahn> Actually, more like a statement.
  713. [2011-03-06 17:56:19] <KrytenKoro> ...
  714. [2011-03-06 17:56:26] <DoorToLukahn> You burned the wrong house in trying to murder me again, Kryten. AGAIN.
  715. [2011-03-06 17:56:44] <DoorToLukahn> That is all.
  716. [2011-03-06 17:56:51] <troisnyxetienne> Eh.
  717. [2011-03-06 17:56:53] |<-- Dan36 has left freenode (Quit: Page closed)
  718. [2011-03-06 17:57:01] |<-- Chitalian has left freenode (Quit: Page closed)
  719. [2011-03-06 17:57:26] =-= troisnyxetienne is now known as TNE|Workload
  720. [2011-03-06 17:57:29] <FerreTrip> *chuckle*
  721. [2011-03-06 17:57:35] <Demonic_Saint> lolwat KK and DTN?
  722. [2011-03-06 17:57:37] <TNE|Workload> ?
  723. [2011-03-06 17:57:49] <DoorToLukahn> On a more serious not, do we know of anyway we can obtain the monaco sidebar, the expandable one, to add to the site? Or is this something we just need to contact porple about?
  724. [2011-03-06 17:57:51] <DoorToLukahn> note*
  725. [2011-03-06 17:58:04] <FerreTrip> Yeah.
  726. [2011-03-06 17:58:12] <TNE|Workload> (If anything, ping me — I might be paying attention to the document I'm about to work on...)
  727. [2011-03-06 17:58:13] <FerreTrip> Wait, I meant @D_S.
  728. [2011-03-06 17:58:15] <KrytenKoro> it's already up
  729. [2011-03-06 17:58:21] |<-- KrytenKoro___ has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  730. [2011-03-06 17:58:26] <Demonic_Saint> Yes?
  731. [2011-03-06 17:58:27] <DoorToLukahn> Oh really?
  732. [2011-03-06 17:58:30] <KrytenKoro> http://khwiki.net/MediaWiki:Monaco.js/Sidebar.js
  733. [2011-03-06 17:58:34] <KrytenKoro> it just needs to be fixed
  734. [2011-03-06 17:58:52] <DoorToLukahn> Hold on, I'm still in Monobook.
  735. [2011-03-06 17:58:58] <Demonic_Saint> FerreTrip: What's it?
  736. [2011-03-06 17:59:04] <KrytenKoro> it was "functioning" when it still had the default Halo material, but something malfunctioned when we tried to switch it over to KH material
  737. [2011-03-06 17:59:06] <FerreTrip> You weren't asking a question, DS? Sorry ^^;;
  738. [2011-03-06 17:59:27] <FerreTrip> (On the lolwat. And we're getting off-topic, my bad ^^; )
  739. [2011-03-06 17:59:44] <Neumannz> something else we need to get fixed, the search bar
  740. [2011-03-06 17:59:52] <DoorToLukahn> Ahh, so it is working.
  741. [2011-03-06 18:00:09] <DoorToLukahn> Well, aside from the expanding ability.
  742. [2011-03-06 18:00:14] <DoorToLukahn> But at least it's there.
  743. [2011-03-06 18:00:31] <FerreTrip> (And on the topic of TWEWY Wiki...I can't find a forum on it to post an invite to join the alliance...O_O; )
  744. [2011-03-06 18:00:46] <DoorToLukahn> Woah, are we already at the stage to start setting up the SEIWA alliance?
  745. [2011-03-06 18:00:53] <DoorToLukahn> We don't even have a SEIWA Home Page yet!
  746. [2011-03-06 18:01:09] <FerreTrip> Then maybe I shouldn't worry about that yet...
  747. [2011-03-06 18:01:09] <KrytenKoro> we need to get monaco finished first
  748. [2011-03-06 18:01:12] <KrytenKoro> but otherwise, yes
  749. [2011-03-06 18:01:29] <KrytenKoro> we are nearly finished with the audit, establishing that we moved correctly
  750. [2011-03-06 18:01:39] <KrytenKoro> the problem now is getting monaco up to speed
  751. [2011-03-06 18:01:49] <KrytenKoro> DTN: it DID expand at one point
  752. [2011-03-06 18:02:07] <Demonic_Saint> *raises hands* The MA... when can we go back to business?
  753. [2011-03-06 18:02:08] <KrytenKoro> there was a problem at some point with the corrections to it
  754. [2011-03-06 18:02:14] <KrytenKoro> as soon as you wish
  755. [2011-03-06 18:02:58] <Demonic_Saint> Hmmm... okay. I'll talk to KKD about it
  756. [2011-03-06 18:03:23] <DoorToLukahn> Ahh, I see.
  757. [2011-03-06 18:03:33] <DoorToLukahn> And yes, getting the MA up and running would be fantastic.
  758. [2011-03-06 18:03:51] <DoorToLukahn> Speaking of the MA, what is to be done about it being on two wikis? Or has it been removed from KHWikia?
  759. [2011-03-06 18:04:11] <FerreTrip> MA?
  760. [2011-03-06 18:04:20] <Neumannz> well, it's not like anyone's been touching it
  761. [2011-03-06 18:04:25] <Neumannz> mirage arena
  762. [2011-03-06 18:04:55] <Demonic_Saint> I'm not sure
  763. [2011-03-06 18:05:05] <Demonic_Saint> I mean... I don't wanna run the MA over there
  764. [2011-03-06 18:05:05] <FerreTrip> Ah.
  765. [2011-03-06 18:05:23] <Demonic_Saint> But... no one has stepped up to take over it
  766. [2011-03-06 18:05:24] <DoorToLukahn> I see.
  767. [2011-03-06 18:05:32] <DoorToLukahn> I just thought it would confusing, have two of the same.
  768. [2011-03-06 18:05:32] <FerreTrip> What IS that? I've heard of it on the wiki, but I dunno what it is. (I know the real game one, but yeah.)
  769. [2011-03-06 18:05:39] <Demonic_Saint> And considering the amount of personal battle arenas created
  770. [2011-03-06 18:06:40] <Demonic_Saint> ...I don't think it has any use there
  771. [2011-03-06 18:07:52] <Neumannz> i feel like no one's gonna step up to run it over there
  772. [2011-03-06 18:08:37] <Demonic_Saint> Them, let it rot and dissapear
  773. [2011-03-06 18:09:06] <Demonic_Saint> Then*
  774. [2011-03-06 18:09:43] <Neumannz> question, can someone tell me if the search bar is doing the same thing in other skins that it's doing in monobook?
  775. [2011-03-06 18:10:12] <KrytenKoro> doing what?
  776. [2011-03-06 18:11:01] <Neumannz> well, you know the suggestions it gives?
  777. [2011-03-06 18:11:32] <Neumannz> first of all, it doesn't suggest the more recent articles we have
  778. [2011-03-06 18:11:42] <Neumannz> such as "stat matrix"
  779. [2011-03-06 18:11:54] <KrytenKoro> erg
  780. [2011-03-06 18:11:59] <KrytenKoro> I have no idea how to fix that
  781. [2011-03-06 18:12:08] <KrytenKoro> honestly, I've never liked how the search bar works
  782. [2011-03-06 18:12:38] <KrytenKoro> it doesn't find all results, it only searches the printed text, and it is based on ALL cache results, but from a long while back
  783. [2011-03-06 18:12:39] <Neumannz> secondly, it includes every single redirect in its suggestions
  784. [2011-03-06 18:12:47] <KrytenKoro> making it completely useless for my purposes
  785. [2011-03-06 18:13:00] <KrytenKoro> I'd prefer something that llows you to search for the actual existing code of an article
  786. [2011-03-06 18:13:07] <KrytenKoro> and one that FINDS ALL RESULTS GRAHG
  787. [2011-03-06 18:13:17] <Neumannz> that's the advanced search
  788. [2011-03-06 18:13:33] <Neumannz> the search bar the wikia had for monaco was great
  789. [2011-03-06 18:14:03] <Neumannz> it only suggested article titles
  790. [2011-03-06 18:14:29] <Neumannz> then a bit after the switch to oasis, it stopped accounting for moves
  791. [2011-03-06 18:14:32] <FerreTrip> I'll admit--it's kinda cool to start typing it in and having the thing I'm looking for pop up. (I just finish entering it in anyway, but hey.) Handy for re-syncing.
  792. [2011-03-06 18:14:53] <Sove> http://www.khwiki.net/File:PL_Small_Chest.png
  793. [2011-03-06 18:14:58] <Sove> So this is our treasure chest?
  794. [2011-03-06 18:15:20] <Neumannz> like now, the wikia suggests "System Sectors" even though it got moved to "System Sector"
  795. [2011-03-06 18:15:25] <KrytenKoro> ...yes?
  796. [2011-03-06 18:15:35] <KrytenKoro> Sove: hold shift and press reload the page
  797. [2011-03-06 18:15:38] <KrytenKoro> on the main page
  798. [2011-03-06 18:15:42] <KrytenKoro> odd
  799. [2011-03-06 18:16:02] <Neumannz> so i would like that earlier one back
  800. [2011-03-06 18:16:42] <TNE|Workload> (Question: Has anyone found the KH1 versions of the chest?)
  801. [2011-03-06 18:19:22] <KrytenKoro> Erry is working on it, I think
  802. [2011-03-06 18:19:27] <KrytenKoro> so far, there are two variations
  803. [2011-03-06 18:19:44] <TNE|Workload> Three.
  804. [2011-03-06 18:19:55] <DoorToLukahn> (I'm still here, ping if needed)
  805. [2011-03-06 18:19:58] <TNE|Workload> Okay.
  806. [2011-03-06 18:20:06] <TNE|Workload> RGB, all of which have the same purpose.
  807. [2011-03-06 18:20:13] |<-- Soxra has left freenode (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
  808. [2011-03-06 18:20:23] <TNE|Workload> The blue ones can't be opened unless Sora has a Keyblade in hand (or, when he talks to Yuffie in the Green Room).
  809. [2011-03-06 18:20:34] <TNE|Workload> I should be able to handle that bit, I hope.
  810. [2011-03-06 18:20:41] <TNE|Workload> (The descriptions, I mean.)
  811. [2011-03-06 18:21:27] <TNE|Workload> Also, none of our Roundedblue team is here — I've noticed something funny about the logo under this skin.
  812. [2011-03-06 18:22:52] <DoorToLukahn> I've noticed quite a few "funny"t hings about Rounded blue.
  813. [2011-03-06 18:22:58] <DoorToLukahn> So I decided to stick with Monobook.
  814. [2011-03-06 18:23:07] <Demonic_Saint> lol
  815. [2011-03-06 18:23:32] <Demonic_Saint> What's wrong with Rounded Blue?
  816. [2011-03-06 18:23:34] <TNE|Workload> I'm not surprised — the thing is far from finished.
  817. [2011-03-06 18:24:01] <TNE|Workload> Crono's demo of Sora/Riku/Kairi on the header was perfectly fine, but Erry decided to work on another header.
  818. [2011-03-06 18:24:17] <TNE|Workload> I'm going to see what they come up with.
  819. [2011-03-06 18:24:41] <DoorToLukahn> Eh.
  820. [2011-03-06 18:24:54] <DoorToLukahn> No offense to your blue BBS design that is nice, but I would rather have a full series theme.
  821. [2011-03-06 18:25:00] <TNE|Workload> I agree.
  822. [2011-03-06 18:25:09] <TNE|Workload> I had worked on a Sora/Riku/Kairi theme at one point...
  823. [2011-03-06 18:25:13] <TNE|Workload> And Crono showed it to me.
  824. [2011-03-06 18:25:14] <DoorToLukahn> Personally, my logo trio preference for that theme would be Sora/Roxas/Ventus, but I can see why others would disagree.
  825. [2011-03-06 18:25:20] <TNE|Workload> *nods*
  826. [2011-03-06 18:25:32] <TNE|Workload> I've kept a screenshot on KHW's Twitter feed — let me fish it out.
  827. [2011-03-06 18:25:57] <TNE|Workload> http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/SilverCrono/Screencaps/NewHeader.png
  828. [2011-03-06 18:26:05] <TNE|Workload> Now some actually said that the header was scary.
  829. [2011-03-06 18:26:19] <TNE|Workload> And (BBS logo aside) this is what drove them to work on a new header, I think.
  830. [2011-03-06 18:26:37] <DoorToLukahn> Hrmm... I'm looking at Roundedblue now.
  831. [2011-03-06 18:26:53] <DoorToLukahn> NOTE: Sora, Roxas, and Kairi are floating above the articles.
  832. [2011-03-06 18:27:03] <DoorToLukahn> It looks too... "happy."
  833. [2011-03-06 18:27:06] <Neumannz> ha, that's kinda scary, yeah
  834. [2011-03-06 18:27:10] <DoorToLukahn> I don't know, I can't really describe it.
  835. [2011-03-06 18:27:20] <KrytenKoro> wow....that's terrifying
  836. [2011-03-06 18:27:23] <Neumannz> I'MMA GONNA EAT YOU
  837. [2011-03-06 18:27:25] <DoorToLukahn> I mean, it looks GREAT.
  838. [2011-03-06 18:27:25] <KrytenKoro> that's honestly terrifying
  839. [2011-03-06 18:27:28] <TNE|Workload> I've had one person pinging me back on KHW's Twitter saying it was scary.
  840. [2011-03-06 18:27:35] <TNE|Workload> I guess now I can understand.
  841. [2011-03-06 18:27:53] <DoorToLukahn> But I'm just not sure if that really characterizes the series--by the way, I'm only talking about the Roundedblue theme.
  842. [2011-03-06 18:27:54] <Neumannz> it looks like kairi has a black eye
  843. [2011-03-06 18:28:03] <Neumannz> --and is still laughing
  844. [2011-03-06 18:28:09] <TNE|Workload> That's Nomura's artwork, mind...
  845. [2011-03-06 18:28:21] <KrytenKoro> yeah
  846. [2011-03-06 18:28:23] <TNE|Workload> I've no idea why Sora looks evil,
  847. [2011-03-06 18:28:29] <KrytenKoro> that sheist is scaring me
  848. [2011-03-06 18:28:35] <DoorToLukahn> TNE: OH GOD, that header. JUST... MASSIVE... HILARITY ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE SKY. BEAUTIFUL.
  849. [2011-03-06 18:28:37] <KrytenKoro> Sora looks like he just stabbed me in the gut
  850. [2011-03-06 18:28:38] <TNE|Workload> *LAUGHS*
  851. [2011-03-06 18:28:43] <TNE|Workload> Ouch. :D
  852. [2011-03-06 18:28:56] <Neumannz> sora is the joker
  853. [2011-03-06 18:29:07] <TNE|Workload> And Riku?
  854. [2011-03-06 18:29:36] <FerreTrip> *looks at it*
  855. [2011-03-06 18:29:44] <Neumannz> riku is lex luthor, aside from the baldness
  856. [2011-03-06 18:29:47] <FerreTrip> *laughs when he sees what Kryten and everyone mean*
  857. [2011-03-06 18:30:13] <Neumannz> mark hamill voiced the wrong character...
  858. [2011-03-06 18:30:26] <KrytenKoro> anyway
  859. [2011-03-06 18:30:30] <KrytenKoro> I think we're done here
  860. [2011-03-06 18:30:32] <FerreTrip> XD;
  861. [2011-03-06 18:30:39] <Neumannz> the meeting, at least
  862. [2011-03-06 18:30:41] <KrytenKoro> I do plan on these meetings being monthly, though
  863. [2011-03-06 18:30:46] <FerreTrip> Review of what we've covered, then?
  864. [2011-03-06 18:30:49] <TNE|Workload> Okay.
  865. [2011-03-06 18:31:10] <Neumannz> somebody logged it, right?
  866. [2011-03-06 18:31:11] <Demonic_Saint> Kairi is un drugs?
  867. [2011-03-06 18:31:14] <KrytenKoro> :ask politely, but no warnings for people copying our content to wikia
  868. [2011-03-06 18:31:31] <Demonic_Saint> </late>
  869. [2011-03-06 18:31:49] <TNE|Workload> *LAUGHS*
  870. [2011-03-06 18:31:58] <KrytenKoro> :audit needs to be finished for all namespaces
  871. [2011-03-06 18:32:00] <TNE|Workload> Kryten: Got it then. But what if they still ignore, for example?
  872. [2011-03-06 18:32:04] <KrytenKoro> :files need to be pruned
  873. [2011-03-06 18:32:06] <TNE|Workload> We can tell them politely about the copyleft...
  874. [2011-03-06 18:33:58] <KrytenKoro> :affiliates - we need to contact them all to get them to link to the new wiki
  875. [2011-03-06 18:34:21] <KrytenKoro> :also, we need to list photobucket as one of our off-wiki accounts, and list the staff for each off-wiki account as a section on the staff page
  876. [2011-03-06 18:34:52] <Demonic_Saint> We need to change the Twitter's background iem
  877. [2011-03-06 18:35:00] <TNE|Workload> Oh? Ideas?
  878. [2011-03-06 18:35:13] <Demonic_Saint> Hmm.. why not put the Wayfinders from BBS?
  879. [2011-03-06 18:35:21] <TNE|Workload> I thought we were going all-series?
  880. [2011-03-06 18:35:22] <Demonic_Saint> Since the twitter will be used to advertise the WIki
  881. [2011-03-06 18:35:34] <Demonic_Saint> Use All wayfinders then... *shot*
  882. [2011-03-06 18:35:37] <KrytenKoro> :we need to get the monaco sidebar fixed, then start looking for other independent wikis
  883. [2011-03-06 18:35:44] <KrytenKoro> (and that's all I can remember offhand)
  884. [2011-03-06 18:35:52] -->| RoxasNobody (43b83bf3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.184.59.243) has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  885. [2011-03-06 18:35:54] <TNE|Workload> I'll come up with a BG revamp for Twitter, but in the meantime...
  886. [2011-03-06 18:36:57] <KrytenKoro> I need to get back to translating some Japanese
  887. [2011-03-06 18:37:05] <TNE|Workload> If anything, ping me.
  888. [2011-03-06 18:37:10] <KrytenKoro> awesome
  889. [2011-03-06 18:37:12] <KrytenKoro> I love you guys
  890. [2011-03-06 18:37:21] <FerreTrip> We love you, too, Kryten.
  891. [2011-03-06 18:37:53] <TNE|Workload> (Also, I have something to share, but if, you'd like, I need to be PM'ed.)
  892. [2011-03-06 18:37:57] <DoorToLukahn> The love is mutual, Watson.
  893. [2011-03-06 18:38:29] <KrytenKoro> seriously
  894. [2011-03-06 18:38:30] <KrytenKoro> someday
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