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[08:47:23] caZey:	man im getting downvoted to hell for posting leaks
[08:47:27] caZey:	😞
[08:47:33] caZey:	i deleted them
[08:49:35] sYthyy:	you deserve everything
[08:49:51] @zen1:	yes sYthyy
[08:50:03] caZey:	yo
[08:50:05] sYthyy:	TRE YOU SHITTER DID YOU WATCH MAD MAX
[08:50:11] sYthyy:	yeah
[08:50:33] caZey: https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/37q9tb/fresh_kendrick_lamar_these_walls_ellen_live_w_dl/
[08:50:42] caZey:	i am getting dowvoted for that
[08:50:51] caZey:	I hadn't saw a DL link for that song
[08:50:53] caZey:	like wtf man
[08:51:31] caZey:	I got a DMCA takedown notice on my server 😧
[08:51:42] sYthyy:	YCMA
[08:51:46] caZey:	and a cease and desist
[08:51:47] caZey:	😃
[08:51:51] sYthyy:	dX
[08:52:09] @zen1:	well, what do you expect when you break the rules……
[08:52:17] @zen1:	idk what to tell you buddy
[08:52:26] caZey:	how did i break the rules?
[08:52:37] @zen1:	http://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/wiki/index
[08:52:40] @zen1:	i guess oyu havent read them
[08:52:49] @zen1:	We have a zero tolerance policy for individuals that break the rules of reddit. This includes blog spam, vote manipulation through outside sites and the posting of links to illegal downloads.
[08:53:07] @zen1:	Non official Streams. Only Official Streams are allowed, this serves as a tool to prevent spam and shady websites getting cash instead of the artists
[08:53:59] caZey:	that's not true when people leak shit on soundcloud yall don't do anything abt it
[08:54:37] caZey:	So can I upload them to soundcloud?
[08:54:51] @zen1:	so because you don't see the 500 posts that have been removed
[08:54:58] @zen1:	it means it's ok
[08:55:00] caZey:	ahh I see
[08:55:07] caZey:	My bad
[08:55:11] caZey:	Didn't know that.
[08:55:33] sYthyy:	the posting of links to illegal downloads.
[08:55:39] sYthyy:	can't allways download from soundcloud
[08:55:42] sYthyy:	brahbroski
[08:56:28] caZey:	It was released on youtube, all I did was coverted HD youtube into mp3??? That's not illegal downloading
[08:56:51] caZey:	It's fairuse as long as I am not making money off of it
[08:58:05] sYthyy:	i dont understand why this matters
[08:58:12] @zen1:	it's fair use for YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE.
[08:58:23] @zen1:	not for re-uploading to a site where otehrs can download.
[08:58:52] caZey:	anyone can download it, it's not breaking the laws, especially not in UK
[09:00:14] @zen1:	think again.
[09:00:16] @zen1:	http://www.businessinsider.com/are-streaming-sites-legal-2014-4
[09:00:32] caZey:	Anti-Piracy Group Admits Streaming Movies and Music Isn’t Illegal
[09:00:35] @zen1:	When the user downloads even part of a file — called "pseudo-streaming" — it counts as a copy of copyrighted material, which is illegal. And when the user streams content as a "public performance" — namely, when it's shown to a substantial number of people outside the normal family circle and its close acquaintances — it also constitutes a copyright violation.
[09:00:58] @zen1:	and its streamed content that you don't own the license or copyright to.
[09:01:11] caZey:	business insider isnt in the UK
[09:01:39] @zen1:	Neither is Kendrick Lamar, or Reddit.
[09:01:59] sYthyy:	lol
[09:02:38] @zen1:	and I assume the UK follows the US copyright laws.
[09:02:48] @zen1:	since they have much stricter regulations about filesharing all around
[09:03:08] caZey:	Article 5 of Directive 2001/29/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 22 May 2001 on the harmonisation of certain aspects of copyright and related rights in the information society must be interpreted as meaning that the copies on the user’s computer screen and the copies in the internet ‘cache’ of that computer’s hard disk, made by an end-user in the course of viewing a
[09:03:08] caZey:	website, satisfy the conditions that those copies must be temporary, that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process, as well as the conditions laid down in Article 5(5) of that directive, and that they may therefore be made without the authorisation of the copyright holders.
[09:03:54] caZey:	....so ???
[09:04:06] @zen1:	>that they must be transient or incidental in nature and that they must constitute an integral and essential part of a technological process,
[09:04:15] @zen1:	which means they happen wihtout direct intervention by the user
[09:04:29] @zen1:	in other words, not intentioanlyl going to a sit eand downloading an mp3 from a streamed VIDEO
[09:05:20] caZey:	As long as an Internet user is streaming copyrighted content online, GigaOm reports that it’s legal for the user, who isn’t willfully making a copy of said content. If the user only views it directly through a web browser, streaming it from a website that hosts it, he or she is apparently doing nothing wrong.
[09:05:31] @zen1:	>who isn’t willfully making a copy of said content.
[09:06:05] caZey:	I didn't copy/download the video
[09:06:13] @zen1:	you uploaded a copy
[09:07:14] @zen1:	maybe try reading and thinking about your actions, before just pasting paragraphs of text and using that as an argument.
[09:07:29] @zen1:	also the mods are free to delete any post for any reason on reddit
[09:07:31] @zen1:	without justification
[09:07:36] caZey:	No I got it from oink.cd irc
[09:07:51] @zen1:	http://www.digitaltrends.com/music/youtube-sues-mp3-conversion-tool-as-the-industry-prepares-for-a-new-fight-over-content-rights/
[09:08:02] sYthyy:	are u mad at my gains zen1
[09:08:13] caZey:	i give up later guys
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