<tim-sanchez> Anybody online?
<tim-sanchez> NewCompte ylambda especially?
<NewCompte> hi
<ylambda> yes
<NewCompte> I was first, scrub.
<ylambda> lol
<tim-sanchez> http://tagpro-origin.koalabeast.com/moderate/users/52e6ed899a766abf2f000020
<tim-sanchez> I'm going to ban Kermit
<tim-sanchez> Or at least he should be banned
<tim-sanchez> but I am going to be very busy for the next week and unlikely to be available for the ensuing shitstorm
<tim-sanchez> Do I have your backing?
<Redkiwi> sure, you got it
<tim-sanchez> Redkiwi pls
<tim-sanchez> but thanks, someone is going to have to deal with this tomorrow
<NewCompte> yes you should ban
<Redkiwi> TeslaTP prolly agrees too
<Redkiwi> !optout
<Smalls> You are now off duty, Redkiwi.
<ylambda> we really outta have a way to specify ban lengths
<TeslaTP> aw shit
<ylambda> cause in all, this is really minor
<tim-sanchez> Still, he has the same rules as all the others and he constantly does this stuff
<TeslaTP> this impending storm... its gonna be either big, or kermit will quit playing
<TeslaTP> I'm hoping for the latter
<TeslaTP> yup
<TeslaTP> Kermit texted me
<ylambda> sure, that doesnt mean its a good/fair system
<TeslaTP> I should check my phone more often
<TeslaTP> lol
<TeslaTP> do what you want tim, but unless I ban him, he will evade it
<tim-sanchez> Well if he evades it then he deserves to be banned again
<TeslaTP> I won't deal with him, mostly because I don't want the shit storm that comes with it again
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<TeslaTP> but I can assure you he will evade, and afaik none of us will catch him in the act
<TeslaTP> and also, tbf, if what he is saying about the sb5 is true, then we ought to speck the sb too and at least offer him a half ban because of his actions...
<TeslaTP> spec*
<TeslaTP> Idk if you remember the story with RoughJustice, but something similar happened.
<TeslaTP> He was banned for exploding on another player who broke the rules
<TeslaTP> both were banned
<TeslaTP> but RJ was unbanned after a few days given the circumstances leading to his ban
<TeslaTP> so I think something similar could be pending here
<TeslaTP> tim-sanchez, ^
<tim-sanchez> Like I said I won't be here over the next few days
<tim-sanchez> but I don't think this is similar, Kermit was acting out over numerous games
<TeslaTP> tim-sanchez, read the chat from the game
<TeslaTP> The some ball was working again him, other players confirmed it
<TeslaTP> tim-sanchez, right here is the proof: http://prntscr.com/bl2xpd
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<tim-sanchez> he was bad in other games too
<tim-sanchez> that was just the last straw
<TeslaTP> but so are other players
<TeslaTP> if anything, I'd say maybe a 2-3 day ban then unban
<tim-sanchez> Like I said I won't be here, so that's why I asked for others input
<TeslaTP> personally, I've seen other players do worse and no ban
<TeslaTP> so, imo (not that this counts) I would make it a couple days and tell him to tone it down
<TeslaTP> tim, did you read the game's chat?
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<TeslaTP> tim-sanchez, ^
<tim-sanchez> Yes I did
<TeslaTP> and?
<tim-sanchez> I don't think it excuses Kermit
<tim-sanchez> what he did is still wrong
<TeslaTP> then a couple days is a max enough ban
<TeslaTP> give him 32 hours or something
<tim-sanchez> Well I can't
<tim-sanchez> I won't be here
<TeslaTP> Then give someone the permission to unban
<TeslaTP> after x amount if hours
<TeslaTP> of*
<tim-sanchez> Well I think its best for mods to decide as a group in a few days
<TeslaTP> tim, you read the chat
<TeslaTP> you know he was pissed at a working against sb
<TeslaTP> his chat really isn't that bad
<TeslaTP> i don't really know what more to say
<TeslaTP> so do what you like
<TeslaTP> but remember the sb walks away
<tim-sanchez> He did more than just that though
<tim-sanchez> He also typed FUCK OFF in all caps in another game
<TeslaTP> tim, so many players do that
<tim-sanchez> Yes, and if they continue they get banned
<TeslaTP> no, because it happens all the time
<tim-sanchez> how about him typing about whacking it?
<Smalls> Mods - TeslaTP tim-sanchez poopv
<Smalls> Mod request from Sloppy ( http://tagpro-origin.koalabeast.com/moderate/ips/96.41.144.219 ) in #TPmods - anyone want to rekt a 3rd cap boater?
<tim-sanchez> If any other player typed like he did then they would be banned without a doubt
<tim-sanchez> he only gets special treatment because he has kicked up a fuss a number of times about being banned
<TeslaTP> I can tell you I have never seen a mod ban someone for saying they would whack it
<tim-sanchez> No but it is simply a part of his collection of inappropriate chat
<tim-sanchez> it isn't one isolated incident
<tim-sanchez> You make it seem like a sb riled him up and he just retaliated, that isn't the case
<TeslaTP> tim, they are isolated incidents
<TeslaTP> I have seen much worse
<TeslaTP> trust me
<TeslaTP> there have been worse that get let go
<tim-sanchez> That doesn't make them right though
<TeslaTP> http://tagpro-radius.koalabeast.com/moderate/users/575ca5cb14ca6a7e59519627
<TeslaTP> what about this guy
<TeslaTP> will he get banned?
<TeslaTP> tim, this type of chat happens all the time, usually if it happens a lot, the community will handle it
<TeslaTP> but personally, I don't think his was that bad
<tim-sanchez> I'm not saying it was the worst I've ever seen
<tim-sanchez> but it is bannable
<tim-sanchez> and yeah, that guy should be banned
<tim-sanchez> so I banned him
<TeslaTP> uh, ok
<TeslaTP> tim, that kind of chat happens a lot
<TeslaTP> Kermit's was not nearly as bad as some people's who get away with much worse
<tim-sanchez> That kind of chat has always been bannable though
<pooppants> I get a little grumpy sometimes. I understand the ban, but definitely think it should be a short term thing.
<TeslaTP> also
<TeslaTP> I gathered his worst chat
<TeslaTP> http://pastebin.com/GCvdzpt1
<TeslaTP> and thats excluding the sb5 stuff
<tim-sanchez> the other players were not talking about jerking off
<tim-sanchez> just multitasking
<TeslaTP> it isn't uncommon to talk about that type of stuff in pubs
<TeslaTP> one sec
<tim-sanchez> I know what he said isn't uncommon
<tim-sanchez> but collectively, I think that chat warrants a ban
<tim-sanchez> I know worse is said and got away with, but that doesn't mean I agree with that
<TeslaTP> ok, so one question, could you work up a list of his chat that you thought led up to this ban
<TeslaTP> because, personally, I don't think his chat was bannable
<tim-sanchez> 5 mods agree it was bannable
<tim-sanchez> including 2 devs
<TeslaTP> ok, then can you just compile the list for me, I'd like to see all the chat that led up to this
<TeslaTP> because clearly I don't see it
<tim-sanchez> >fuck you sb5
<tim-sanchez> its hard to do shit when a player is actively trying to fuck you over
<tim-sanchez> sb4, your last lol
<tim-sanchez> you dont die caue you dont do fucken shit
<tim-sanchez> and i fucked him by mistake
<tim-sanchez> im also whacking it right now
<tim-sanchez> FUCK OFF
<tim-sanchez> my daughters afraid of waves, pussy
<tim-sanchez> my ball looks like me
<tim-sanchez> took my daughter to my beach house and didnt put shit on
<tim-sanchez> im an idiot
<tim-sanchez> im sunburnt as fuck
<tim-sanchez> didn ask how much your mom was for the night
<tim-sanchez> All of that text to me is either irrelevant, inappropriate for tagpro or both
<tim-sanchez> Perhaps  not bannable on its own, but collectively a clear ban
<TeslaTP> <tim-sanchez> my daughters afraid of waves, pussy -> he called his daughter a pussy, and he was discussing his sunburn at the beach
<TeslaTP> im an idiot.......
<tim-sanchez> yes, but its still irrelevant
<TeslaTP> ok, if this is a ban
<TeslaTP> then I'm not sure what I should ban for any more
<TeslaTP> because before this 'unwelcoming to new players' report option came into play, none of that was bannable in the past
<TeslaTP> and I'm not sure that its bannable now
<TeslaTP> so I'm gonna ask a dev to clarify for me
<TeslaTP> because if it is
<TeslaTP> I have to start banning a lot more
<TeslaTP> because
<TeslaTP> I see worse and let it go every day
<tim-sanchez> Well 5 mods and 2 devs thing it is a ban
<TeslaTP> ok
<TeslaTP> I'd like that list of mods and devs
<TeslaTP> I want to ask them personally
<TeslaTP> because
<TeslaTP> imo it doesn't seem bannable
<tim-sanchez> NewCompte, ylambda, Redkiwi, pooppants and myself
<TeslaTP> AMorpork, I'm sorry to bother you, but I would like your opinion on this
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