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- [2011-12-12 00:06:22] <MrTT> did camella get a new leg courtesy of sake? I forgot
- [2011-12-12 00:07:19] <Shifter29> Nope, a wizard did it.
- [2011-12-12 00:15:29] <MrTT> nono
- [2011-12-12 00:15:33] <MrTT> She has a wizard made leg
- [2011-12-12 00:15:39] <MrTT> did we get her her own REAL leg back
- [2011-12-12 00:15:49] <MrTT> we considered the possibility, we were going to ask sake if he can do so now
- [2011-12-12 00:15:54] <MrTT> and offer it to her
- [2011-12-12 00:15:58] <MrTT> i think we mentioned it to her already
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- [2011-12-12 00:17:23] <Shifter29> Then, no... I'm pretty sure we haven't done that yet.
- [2011-12-12 00:19:57] <MrTT> btw, i so want to get that shadowmancer golden boy
- [2011-12-12 00:19:59] <MrTT> om nom nom
- [2011-12-12 00:20:26] <MrTT> try to mindrip his soul first for shadowmancy knowledge... then have SB eat him body and soul for raw power
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- [2011-12-12 00:22:08] <Ironybot> Apparently they've got a wind guy, too. I wonder if we can somehow process him into a powerup for Sake.
- [2011-12-12 00:22:51] <MrTT> hey, remember how my legion idea was flawed due to needing amen?
- [2011-12-12 00:23:04] <MrTT> armas has flesh manip himself
- [2011-12-12 00:23:12] <MrTT> if he can get enough training he could make his own
- [2011-12-12 00:23:22] <MrTT> and then bloodheart to bind them all together
- [2011-12-12 00:23:33] <MrTT> and maybe sami soul sculpting to link the souls
- [2011-12-12 00:23:36] <MrTT> over the shadow
- [2011-12-12 00:36:55] <BUTTZ> It's a good thing Armas didn't try to hook up anything to his dick
- [2011-12-12 00:40:43] <Ironybot> You mean chakra-wise? The look on Camella's face might have been worth having our dick explode.
- [2011-12-12 00:41:03] <Ironybot> I mean, it'd grow right back but that memory would be forever.
- [2011-12-12 00:41:14] <BUTTZ> "What were you trying to do!?"
- [2011-12-12 00:41:25] <BUTTZ> "Magic. Dick magic. What do you care, you don't even have one?"
- [2011-12-12 00:42:32] <Ironybot> "See, I wanted to make my dick explode more forcefully, and I overdid it a little."
- [2011-12-12 00:44:52] <Shifter29> Apparently it rots the flesh too, so getting covered in that would likely drive her insane with rage...
- [2011-12-12 00:45:04] <BUTTZ> Rots the flesh?
- [2011-12-12 00:45:18] <BUTTZ> Geeze
- [2011-12-12 00:45:20] <Shifter29> The eye exploded into pus.
- [2011-12-12 00:45:33] <BUTTZ> We should get a microscope and look at that
- [2011-12-12 00:46:13] <Shifter29> We have Jagda, so we should send him a sample of it.
- [2011-12-12 00:46:24] <BUTTZ> He's not going to know what the fuck to do with it
- [2011-12-12 00:46:32] <Ironybot> Fuck no we're not handing off parts of our body to anyone who can't keep it secure.
- [2011-12-12 00:46:42] <TMIoverload> We can still do that. All we have to do is try and link our chakras to the memory of the night with the vampire and elf which we can't remember
- [2011-12-12 00:46:57] <Ironybot> Or to anyone else in general. It needs to be destroyed before someone uses it against us.
- [2011-12-12 00:47:27] <BUTTZ> We should probably buy an autoclave
- [2011-12-12 00:52:43] <MrTT> Armas' dick will grow back
- [2011-12-12 00:52:57] <MrTT> Its permanent dibilitating loss of magic and soul stuff that is an issue
- [2011-12-12 00:53:14] <MrTT> for example, in the NN strikes armas lost his ability to identify enchantment gotten by goblin training
- [2011-12-12 00:53:27] <MrTT> The eye thing, thats nothing
- [2011-12-12 00:54:07] <MrTT> the earlier experiment, that was severe... we lost the ability to regain winter energy from food for several days. It could have been a perment loss but we were lucky enough that it wasn't
- [2011-12-12 00:54:47] <MrTT> jagda is a fucking LINGUIST... not a biologist
- [2011-12-12 00:55:05] <MrTT> and armas is not giving away samples of his own body... those are JELOUSLY guarded by all practitioners
- [2011-12-12 01:05:49] <MrTT> so, what do you'll think of my post?
- [2011-12-12 01:08:38] <Ironybot> I don't think we have any in-character justification for knowing that Amen modifies his own memories regularly.
- [2011-12-12 01:10:03] <Ironybot> And as I disagree with getting the Borders bloodline I find that portion counterproductive. Negotiating a bounty on Lo Fang's enemies pre-emptively is a good idea, though.
- [2011-12-12 01:10:56] <Ironybot> In fact, it might be prudent to speak with Lo Fang and Rocco both, get kill lists with bounties, and then target anyone on both lists for the double pay.
- [2011-12-12 01:13:43] <MrTT> yes...
- [2011-12-12 01:13:48] <MrTT> paid twice is awesome
- [2011-12-12 01:14:32] <MrTT> the darkening will require us to somehow sell something to rabbit worthy enough for him to bestow the knowledge on us
- [2011-12-12 01:14:49] <MrTT> Also that borders stuff was a tiny portion of my post, what about the other parts
- [2011-12-12 01:15:10] <MrTT> Also even if you don't want borders, FINDING OUT whether we CAN easily get it matters
- [2011-12-12 01:15:29] <MrTT> since the ease of acquisition does come into play
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- [2011-12-12 01:19:51] <TMIoverload> Bob said we can get the bullet now
- [2011-12-12 01:20:04] <TMIoverload> No rabbit information required
- [2011-12-12 01:20:05] <Ironybot> All the Darkening requires is that we shoot ourselves in the head.
- [2011-12-12 01:20:18] <TMIoverload> Well, not now, but we can get it started now
- [2011-12-12 01:20:40] <TMIoverload> It'll take him time to make the bullet
- [2011-12-12 01:20:45] <Ironybot> Apply custom bullets, luck, or other twists as desired, but ultimately we could get Darkening right now with 33% odds of success.
- [2011-12-12 01:26:57] <TMIoverload> Hey, something I just realized.
- [2011-12-12 01:27:33] <MrTT> edited post
- [2011-12-12 01:27:56] <TMIoverload> All our bloodlines will combine together after we get our third. It's possible all out soul stuff could become border related. This could lead to everything being dangerous as fuck, not just messing with borders itself
- [2011-12-12 01:27:58] <MrTT> ironybot... 33% of success, 66% of bad end for the quest
- [2011-12-12 01:28:09] <TMIoverload> No, 33% success, 33% bad end
- [2011-12-12 01:28:11] <MrTT> the black hole will insta kill us and free amen
- [2011-12-12 01:28:14] <MrTT> which is also bad end
- [2011-12-12 01:28:17] <Ironybot> Technically, 33% success, 33% bad end, 33% die and bounce back.
- [2011-12-12 01:28:24] <MrTT> the soul scale will trap us until rabbit dies
- [2011-12-12 01:28:34] <Ironybot> Our death will not necessarily free Amen.
- [2011-12-12 01:28:34] <MrTT> die and bounce back and AMEN GOES FREE
- [2011-12-12 01:28:39] <TMIoverload> Amen getting unleashed is not a bad end. Pantheons will jump on him
- [2011-12-12 01:28:42] <MrTT> it will destroy the eye
- [2011-12-12 01:28:51] <MrTT> it is a bad end, bob said so
- [2011-12-12 01:28:56] <MrTT> it will take pantheons uniting
- [2011-12-12 01:29:01] <MrTT> he will kill off some
- [2011-12-12 01:29:03] <Ironybot> Also, god dammit, we still haven't removed our orders for guests to be able to give orders.
- [2011-12-12 01:29:04] <MrTT> even if amen survives that
- [2011-12-12 01:29:10] <MrTT> dragons and gods will want revenge on armas
- [2011-12-12 01:29:14] <Ironybot> We need to do that. Now.
- [2011-12-12 01:29:16] <MrTT> enemies he cannot stand against
- [2011-12-12 01:29:22] <TMIoverload> No he didn't MrTT. As long as we're not near the mansion, we'll survive it
- [2011-12-12 01:29:24] <MrTT> Agreed ironybot
- [2011-12-12 01:29:40] <MrTT> We will survive it but will not survive the varied groups like DRAGONS AND WIZARDS who want revenge
- [2011-12-12 01:29:49] <MrTT> amen will ravage turkey before being put down
- [2011-12-12 01:29:51] <TMIoverload> They aren't going to come after us for it
- [2011-12-12 01:29:55] <MrTT> probably reveal magic to the general public, etc
- [2011-12-12 01:30:00] <MrTT> IIRC bob said they will
- [2011-12-12 01:30:12] <TMIoverload> Then you don't recall correctly. i've asked about this
- [2011-12-12 01:30:29] <MrTT> he specifically said we cannot "deal" with amen by just flying over to the other side of the globe and releasing him or binding him until he blows up
- [2011-12-12 01:30:47] <MrTT> as even though armas will survive the initial destruction he will make enemies that he cannot stand against and be killed by for sure
- [2011-12-12 01:30:55] <TMIoverload> Yeah, that's purposely letting him loose, which is different
- [2011-12-12 01:31:02] <MrTT> eh
- [2011-12-12 01:31:04] <MrTT> thats a stretch
- [2011-12-12 01:31:16] <MrTT> and even if so... in the time free amen will rape the fuck out of all our allies, friends, and family
- [2011-12-12 01:31:16] <TMIoverload> No, it isn't, as I have specifically asked about accidental release
- [2011-12-12 01:31:41] <MrTT> well, that is good to know
- [2011-12-12 01:31:41] <TMIoverload> Family, no. Friends and allies, if they're in the mansion, yeah
- [2011-12-12 01:31:54] <TMIoverload> He won't make it outside of Turkey
- [2011-12-12 01:32:10] <MrTT> between mansion and turkey's borders is a lot of space
- [2011-12-12 01:32:36] <MrTT> that contains the goblins, triads, mafia, doonie, arkvad, kamella, ito, jagdega
- [2011-12-12 01:32:38] <MrTT> einrik
- [2011-12-12 01:32:39] <MrTT> etc
- [2011-12-12 01:33:03] <MrTT> is it ONLY the mansion or whole of turkey?
- [2011-12-12 01:33:09] <TMIoverload> And he'll be mindless at that point and attract multiple pantheons attentions right quick
- [2011-12-12 01:33:22] <MrTT> that is the best thing working in our favor
- [2011-12-12 01:33:40] <MrTT> a free amen is mindlessly raging which will prevent him from directly and intentionally hunting our allies
- [2011-12-12 01:33:44] <TMIoverload> The mansion guaranteed, Turkey a crapshoot, as he'll mess with a bunch of different portions being mindless
- [2011-12-12 01:33:49] <MrTT> still, amen serves a very good defense for us right now
- [2011-12-12 01:34:05] <MrTT> will hate to lose him like that
- [2011-12-12 01:34:14] <MrTT> i want to deal with him in a better manner
- [2011-12-12 01:34:15] <TMIoverload> I'm not saying that it's a good thing, just that it's only 33% chance of bad-end
- [2011-12-12 01:34:41] <Ralith> amen is pretty damn high % chance of bad end under any circumstances
- [2011-12-12 01:34:44] <TMIoverload> And he's been around a long time. We aren't going to be the one to deal with them without several Og questions
- [2011-12-12 01:34:48] <MrTT> ok fine... 33% chance of a bad end and 33% of really really bad shit and horrible setbacks but not bad end as long as we do it far away from the mansion and all of our allies and soul brothers are away from the mansion
- [2011-12-12 01:35:11] <TMIoverload> It's still not a bad end if our friends and allies die
- [2011-12-12 01:35:29] <Ralith> MrTT: I still thing a plausable tactic is getting him into space for fake reasons and *then* blowing him up would work
- [2011-12-12 01:35:33] <Ralith> think*
- [2011-12-12 01:35:42] <Ralith> maybe use him as a recon sattelite for a little while
- [2011-12-12 01:35:50] <Ralith> for sincere purposes
- [2011-12-12 01:36:13] <TMIoverload> Anyway, I want to either get a bullet to guarantee darkening or renting enough gun luck for the shot to guarantee it
- [2011-12-12 01:36:39] <Ironybot> I'm thinking gun luck is a better bet simply because we can do that almost immediately.
- [2011-12-12 01:37:04] <Ralith> what shot is this?
- [2011-12-12 01:37:07] <Ralith> do I need to read the latest updates?
- [2011-12-12 01:37:08] <Ironybot> Our bloodline is still destabilizing, and it's been what, five days since we made it?
- [2011-12-12 01:37:16] <MrTT> Ralith... I believe I am the one who INVENTED the send him into space and blow him up there theory
- [2011-12-12 01:37:26] <Ralith> MrTT: great! why haven't we done it yet?
- [2011-12-12 01:37:29] <MrTT> My only worry is that trying to get him to blow up there could cause him to kill us
- [2011-12-12 01:37:40] <MrTT> as in, we know that some orders will cause our death
- [2011-12-12 01:37:45] <MrTT> does ordering him to explode himself do so?
- [2011-12-12 01:37:47] <Ralith> even if we're outside the mansion?
- [2011-12-12 01:38:00] <MrTT> well, we felt the pressure via the blood link
- [2011-12-12 01:38:03] <MrTT> and he has our blood samples
- [2011-12-12 01:38:11] <Ralith> can we undo all that safely?
- [2011-12-12 01:38:20] <MrTT> we might be safe if we order him to destroy all of our blood flesh etc in the mansion
- [2011-12-12 01:38:26] <MrTT> i don't know ralith
- [2011-12-12 01:38:28] <Ralith> that seems like a really good idea regardless
- [2011-12-12 01:38:33] <Ralith> amen having our blood is like
- [2011-12-12 01:38:35] <MrTT> actually wait...
- [2011-12-12 01:38:36] <MrTT> doh
- [2011-12-12 01:38:36] <Ralith> exactly the wrong thing
- [2011-12-12 01:38:44] <MrTT> Think about, amen kills us AS HE BLOWS UP IN SPACE
- [2011-12-12 01:38:50] <MrTT> we just resurrect
- [2011-12-12 01:38:54] <TMIoverload> Ralith, if we shoot ourselves with one of Buntlines primary shots, Darkening specifically, we get a Super-Lurk bloodline that will make Buntline easier/better to use and make our entire Winter line Divine, in addition to it's imperialness
- [2011-12-12 01:39:02] <MrTT> unless... he did teach us a thing with blood magic that unravels a victim's very soul
- [2011-12-12 01:39:10] <Ralith> TMIoverload: sounds like a good deal
- [2011-12-12 01:39:27] <MrTT> The yellow emperor is a god-wizard who has a Divine imperial borders bloodline
- [2011-12-12 01:39:38] <Ralith> also if we do this
- [2011-12-12 01:39:41] <Ralith> we're totally doing it at night
- [2011-12-12 01:39:47] <Ralith> and getting everyone outside on some benches
- [2011-12-12 01:39:50] <TMIoverload> It would allow us to hide our souls nature from a Ruling Dragon while it's actively looking at us
- [2011-12-12 01:39:51] <Ralith> and treating it like a fireworks show
- [2011-12-12 01:40:00] <MrTT> He came from a borders family, was born a squib, became a wizard, used that to get borders, was imperial due to his family (emperor of china) and it became divine when he ascended to godhood
- [2011-12-12 01:40:04] <MrTT> he is still alive
- [2011-12-12 01:40:29] <MrTT> ... i wonder if we could supplicant ourselves before him and work for him for him aspecting our bloodline in such a manner
- [2011-12-12 01:41:00] <MrTT> @TMI: Actually it will give us draconic level stealth that will only allow us to fully hide our soul if we are drawing on the power of consumed souls
- [2011-12-12 01:41:08] <TMIoverload> MrTT, what part of the fact that experimenting with Chakra has fucked us up twice do you not seem to get? We can't handle borders. Ever
- [2011-12-12 01:41:26] <MrTT> That is, armas will have to go somewhat evil and start eating souls to hide it from the top tier ones
- [2011-12-12 01:41:47] <MrTT> i am not sure if ruling dragon counts as being that high up to begin with though
- [2011-12-12 01:42:04] <MrTT> @TMI: We experimented with chakra because WE THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE
- [2011-12-12 01:42:23] <MrTT> it seems that it was "safe" only in comparison to borders to experiment with
- [2011-12-12 01:42:29] <TMIoverload> No, we have seen it's not, and we keep experimenting
- [2011-12-12 01:42:36] <MrTT> we have NEVER experimented with thngs we were outright told are bad to experiment with
- [2011-12-12 01:42:38] <TMIoverload> And we're doing it when we have four people to teach us it
- [2011-12-12 01:42:39] <MrTT> for example the soul binding
- [2011-12-12 01:42:54] <MrTT> We keep experimenting because we thought it was safe field to experiment in
- [2011-12-12 01:42:55] <BUTTZ> We're doing it at Altran's prodding
- [2011-12-12 01:42:59] <BUTTZ> Because he doesn't learn
- [2011-12-12 01:43:12] <BUTTZ> And he writes these huge posts that suck
- [2011-12-12 01:43:19] <TMIoverload> We shut off our healing and then we continued to experiment.
- [2011-12-12 01:43:20] <MrTT> We never experimented with things we were OUTRIGHT told are unsafe to experiment with
- [2011-12-12 01:43:38] <BUTTZ> I'm seriously just going to SUST everything he can't fit into the first 600 words of his post
- [2011-12-12 01:43:54] <MrTT> also, i am pretty sure that eye blowing up thing is due to summer/winter thing
- [2011-12-12 01:44:00] <MrTT> a super rare condition
- [2011-12-12 01:44:09] <MrTT> it would not have done that normally
- [2011-12-12 01:44:19] <TMIoverload> MrTT, that's the exact fucking reason the first chakra experiment failed
- [2011-12-12 01:44:28] <MrTT> but nonetheless, armas did NOT experiment with things he was outright told are unsane to experiment with
- [2011-12-12 01:44:49] <BUTTZ> So what?
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- [2011-12-12 01:45:00] <BUTTZ> He experimented with something he got burned doing earlier
- [2011-12-12 01:45:07] <TMIoverload> When he had teachers for it
- [2011-12-12 01:45:44] <TMIoverload> Lo Fang, Ito, Einrik, Einrik's chakra dude he knows, hell, even fucking Amen. We could've double checked by asking amen what it would do
- [2011-12-12 01:46:13] <BUTTZ> "Yo, Amen, if I hook these cables up to a battery, and then hook the battery up to my eye, will that make science happen?"
- [2011-12-12 01:47:04] <TMIoverload> Armas does what posters tell him to. If you think for even a second that posters will catch everything that could be harmful or even realize something is bas, then you're a moron
- [2011-12-12 01:47:44] <BUTTZ> It REALLY doesn't help when instructions are buried in four page documents that amount to being laundry lists of shit to do
- [2011-12-12 01:48:13] <TMIoverload> If you're counting on needing a majority, Bob has only said that for things that would instant bad end us. Anything short of that he won't interfere with.
- [2011-12-12 01:50:49] <MrTT> Buttz, he experimented with something DIFFERENT
- [2011-12-12 01:51:03] <BUTTZ> Uh, he was using chakra interactions with the body
- [2011-12-12 01:51:05] <MrTT> the intial burnw as when we tied to instruct our flesh manipulation to FEED on our chakra, soul energy
- [2011-12-12 01:51:18] <MrTT> This time we tried to reassign our chakra which we thought was safe and well known
- [2011-12-12 01:51:18] <BUTTZ> after we'd been told that doing was was Dumb
- [2011-12-12 01:51:40] <BUTTZ> Alright, look we Do Not Know What We are Doing
- [2011-12-12 01:51:48] <MrTT> @TMI: the fact that majority is needed for a bad end decision is actually a protection
- [2011-12-12 01:51:55] <BUTTZ> And he wants to keep fucking around instead of waiting for a teach
- [2011-12-12 01:51:58] <BUTTZ> Who can teach us
- [2011-12-12 01:52:02] <MrTT> if a single unsusted vote gets us valuable info from a failed experiment that causes no long term harm
- [2011-12-12 01:52:06] <BUTTZ> So that Armas has the skills to do workarounds
- [2011-12-12 01:52:12] <TMIoverload> Not a good one, because things can fuck us in ways that don't bad end us, but leave us vulnerable to bad ends
- [2011-12-12 01:52:28] <MrTT> true
- [2011-12-12 01:52:30] <BUTTZ> Whatever
- [2011-12-12 01:52:36] <TMIoverload> And long term harm is not a bad end, that can still happen to us
- [2011-12-12 01:52:38] <BUTTZ> I'm just going to do what I said I'm going to do
- [2011-12-12 01:52:43] <MrTT> which is?
- [2011-12-12 01:52:50] <MrTT> i edited btw
- [2011-12-12 01:52:52] <BUTTZ> And that is SUST Alratran's posts that go over 600 words
- [2011-12-12 01:53:07] <BUTTZ> Soon as he hits the 600 word mark, I'm susting everything after that in his post
- [2011-12-12 01:53:11] <MrTT> you know what... susting something too long to read for stupid is a good idea
- [2011-12-12 01:53:27] <MrTT> buttz, how do you intend to sust it in such a way?
- [2011-12-12 01:55:10] <BUTTZ> If it's not well written enough to be entertaining, and it's too long to hold my attention, and there's a whole lot of nothing being said in the first 600 words, I'm going to call it what it is.
- [2011-12-12 01:55:18] <BUTTZ> Stupid
- [2011-12-12 01:56:03] <MrTT> wow, my last post is 1318 words
- [2011-12-12 01:57:11] <BUTTZ> You can fit a fuckton into 600 words
- [2011-12-12 01:57:24] <BUTTZ> That's a fucking three minute speech
- [2011-12-12 01:57:48] <BUTTZ> Well, more like four
- [2011-12-12 01:58:35] <TMIoverload> And I'm off. Later GolemGents
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- [2011-12-12 02:11:53] <MrTT> you know, i worry that if we get darkening, with its "protection against experimentations" , people will take it as free license to experiment
- [2011-12-12 02:12:01] <MrTT> even with some safeties we can still fuck ourselves up
- [2011-12-12 02:14:57] <Ralith> people will experiment no matter what
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