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[13:21] <@Yamiteh> kk so Avssie we will fill u in for meeting
[13:22] <@Avssie> Yes pls
[13:22] <@Avssie> With work tomorrow it doesn't work out too well
[13:22] <@Avssie> I can throw my thoughts in a thread anway
[13:23] <@Yamiteh> yea
[13:24] <@Cille`> Avssie
[13:24] <@Cille`> if u have topics
[13:24] <@Cille`> pls post it in the meeting thread
[13:24] <@Cille`> i'll bring it up
[13:25] <@Avssie> Okily doke
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[17:37] <@Yamiteh> welcome to the club SM|Blood gonna be at meeting tonite? .p
[17:49] <%SM|Blood> when?
[17:54] <@Yamiteh> let me check
[17:55] <@Yamiteh> 21 pm gmt sooo
[17:55] <@Yamiteh> in 3 hrs
[17:56] <%SM|Blood> 5pm, should be fine
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[22:26] <@Music> hey, Cille`
[22:26] <@Cille`> Hey
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[22:26] <@Cille`> What_A_Mugg Yamiteh SM|Blood
[22:27] <@Cille`> you all here and ready?
[22:27] <%SM|Blood> yup
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[22:27] <@Yamiteh> umm
[22:27] <gunmage8-6vh> hi
[22:27] <@Yamiteh> ok im ready
[22:27] <@Yamiteh> lol gunmage
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[22:28] <@Cille`> What_A_Mugg?
[22:28] <@Music> idle 30 min
[22:28] <@Cille`> yh but on rs
[22:28] <@Cille`> oh he logged without me seeing it
[22:28] <@Music> o
[22:29] <@Cille`> nvm then
[22:29] <@Cille`> ok first thing on the list
[22:29] <@Cille`> well, 2nd
[22:30] <@Cille`> how should we run this project now, who is going to be taking over etc
[22:30] <@Cille`> and who should be kicked because they don't even read the section etc
[22:30] <%SM|Blood> woox
[22:30] <@Yamiteh> wht lol
[22:30] <@Yamiteh> hmm
[22:30] <@Music> kick blood
[22:30] <@Cille`> ^
[22:30] <@Cille`> oh and Music demoted
[22:30] <@Music> ^
[22:30] <@Cille`> for delaying us 1½h
[22:30] <@Music> you didn't have to wait lol
[22:31] <@Yamiteh> maybe we shud run it same way as before
[22:31] <@Yamiteh> it wasnt doing bad
[22:31] <@Yamiteh> until we all got inactive
[22:31] <@Yamiteh> lol
[22:31] <@Yamiteh> maybe new boss will help us in some way
[22:31] <@Cille`> Well
[22:31] <@Yamiteh> i think lot of us are gonna nolife it
[22:31] <@Cille`> I've been inactive for my 1 month now..
[22:31] <@Cille`> and I mean, I've really not been that inactive lol
[22:32] <@Yamiteh> i mean i know i havent been pvming ever seince june or something not sure about others
[22:32] <@Music> I haven't pvm'ed much in july
[22:32] <@Yamiteh> ever since that "nex sat"
[22:32] <%SM|Blood> i'm pvming as we speak
[22:32] <@Yamiteh> lol
[22:32] <@Music> been skilling mostly + busy irl
[22:32] <@Yamiteh> poor isaac guy prob idled in empty fc for weeks
[22:32] <@Cille`> Well I just pvmed with tiggy lol
[22:32] <@Yamiteh> same i got busy irl etc
[22:32] <@Music> yeah isaac has been pm'ing me to keep him updated
[22:33] <@Cille`> Do we want multiple leaders like now?
[22:33] <@Yamiteh> i think those few days when we were active etc it went really great
[22:33] <@Yamiteh> if we cud keep on going like this for a month
[22:33] <@Yamiteh> itds be a success
[22:33] <@Yamiteh> and yea i want multiple leaders
[22:33] <@Cille`> Idm helping, but I can't sit here 15h a day anymore
[22:33] <@Cille`> which is why I also stepped down obv
[22:35] <@Music> if we have multiple leaders, I can help lead, but I can't be the main leader. I don't have the time anymore with other obligations in irl and sm to lead 3-4 projects
[22:36] <@Yamiteh> i got the *free time* but idk if i play enough rs atm
[22:36] <@Music> so, sure multiple leaders is fine but I won't have as much time as previous
[22:36] <@Yamiteh> 3 * multiple leaders = each takes 1/3 of responsibilities of 1 main leader so we only need 0.33% of the time wed otherwise nee?
[22:36] <@Cille`> I think if we have multiple there shouldn't be one main leader, but if 3 people say do 33% of the work each
[22:36] <%SM|Blood> sounds like rather than having multiple main leaders, we should just have a few higher leaders that are equally able to lead.
[22:36] <%SM|Blood> ^
[22:37] <@Music> well, that's how it kinda was in the past
[22:37] <@Cille`> If we can split it out in 3, I can help. But I cannot do most of it
[22:37] <@Music> Cille` led the majority of it
[22:37] <@Music> but I'm game for a 3-4 split
[22:38] <@Cille`> I think the 3-4 people should have a meeting every so often to talk about how things should go, so like one person doesn't say one thing, other person says another thing
[22:39] <@Cille`> bash out ideas also etc
[22:39] <@Cille`> !seen wisdomstar
[22:39] <@X> wisdomstar was last seen here 19 days, 30 minutes ago.
[22:39] <@Yamiteh> yea
[22:39] <@Yamiteh> wisdom is inactive in rs too i think btw
[22:39] <@Cille`> yeah I haven't seen him
[22:39] <@Music> !seen wisdomstar
[22:39] <@X> wisdomstar was last seen here 19 days, 30 minutes ago.
[22:39] <@Music> l0l
[22:39] <@Music> 19 days
[22:39] <@Music> dam
[22:40] <@Cille`> So do you want to post up a thread to discuss who can lead it, or just take any1 who wants to do 33% of it at least
[22:40] <@Music> we already had a thread
[22:40] <@Cille`> So maybe ask avssie then?
[22:40] <@Music> the most adequate would probably be among Avssie, you, yamiteh, me
[22:40] <@Cille`> Dag is never here..
[22:40] <@Music> he's only a silver star anyways
[22:41] <@Cille`> Yeah I was thinking that
[22:41] <@Cille`> So is Avssie
[22:41] <@Cille`> ingame anyway
[22:41] <@Music> meh, he's one of the most experienced
[22:41] <@Cille`> yeh ik
[22:41] <@Cille`> I was just giving the leaders gold + tiggy
[22:41] <@Music> Lucky needs to be removed from gold then
[22:41] <@Music> he's never on rs
[22:41] <@Yamiteh> yea i guess its only us for now
[22:41] <@Cille`> yeah ik
[22:42] <@Yamiteh> maybe once we pvm and get to meet people we can have more leaders... eventually
[22:42] <@Yamiteh> or just helpers
[22:42] <@Cille`> That does bring us to the next point
[22:42] <@Cille`> Recruiting
[22:42] <@Cille`> Like, perm ranks
[22:42] <@Cille`> not just "looking for a team come join"
[22:43] <@Music> yeah
[22:43] <@Music> we were starting to get some of those
[22:43] <@Cille`> Do you think we should post up a perm rank recruiting thread on rsof? + on SM?
[22:43] <@Music> idk, recruiting was mentioned in the post we said
[22:43] <@Cille`> I thought that would just be based on if you're active only
[22:43] <@Cille`> but we're in serious need of serious pvmers atm
[22:44] <@Music> yeah
[22:45] <@Cille`> Yamiteh / blood / Tiggy?
[22:45] <@Yamiteh> hmm
[22:45] <%SM|Blood> ?
[22:45] <@Yamiteh> i think there are alot of serious pvmers out there
[22:45] <@Yamiteh> so idk
[22:45] <@Yamiteh> lol
[22:45] <%SM|Blood> my in-game clan is full of them, it's literally a pvm clan.
[22:45] <@Cille`> yeah but like, we need them here stat
[22:45] <%SM|Blood> not that that helps
[22:45] <@Yamiteh> imo just do pvm trips with ppl on forums
[22:46] <@Yamiteh> and idk
[22:46] <@Yamiteh> recruit people who prob deserve it
[22:46] <@Cille`> yeah but with the amount we pvm atm
[22:46] <@Cille`> we need more
[22:46] <@Yamiteh> yeah
[22:46] <@Tiggy> You won't have enough going on sm alone, Yamiteh
[22:46] <@Yamiteh> we can try adding rank recruiting to forums
[22:46] <@Cille`> I mean atm
[22:46] <@Yamiteh> but idk if it will help
[22:46] <@Yamiteh> if we are still small
[22:46] <@Cille`> We're 4 people active, and then Blood who is new
[22:47] <@Yamiteh> i think bom is pretty willing to pvm!
[22:47] <%SM|Blood> the best way to get yourself known as an fc/pvming group is to go out and work your way into the pvm scene with other pvmers/pvm groups.
[22:47] <@Cille`> Yeah but
[22:47] <@Yamiteh> !seen bom
[22:47] <@X> bom was last seen here 4 days, 4 hours, 54 minutes ago.
[22:47] <@Cille`> He is not here
[22:47] <@Yamiteh> but hes not as active
[22:47] <%SM|Blood> that's my opinion
[22:47] <@Cille`> he said he would be here in July but is not
[22:47] <@Music> yeah he's fairly mia
[22:47] <@Cille`> he said he'd be back soon idk
[22:47] <@Yamiteh> tbh the problem is most of the srs pvmers are in some sort of pvm clan :/
[22:48] <@Cille`> Well we don't need SERIOUS pvmers atm
[22:48] <@Cille`> We need a few people who is willing to start up something
[22:48] <@Cille`> idm teaching people first
[22:48] <@Yamiteh> araxxor could give that to us
[22:48] <@Yamiteh> think about it
[22:48] <@Cille`> yep
[22:48] <@Yamiteh> i meanf
[22:48] <%SM|Blood> araxxor is limited to two kills per week
[22:48] <%SM|Blood> limits itself really
[22:48] <@Yamiteh> first week we nolife, get rich, learn stuff
[22:48] <@Yamiteh> two kills per week?
[22:48] <@Yamiteh> really?
[22:48] <%SM|Blood> yes
[22:49] <@Cille`> Shit really?
[22:49] <%SM|Blood> pretty sure I read that somewhere lol
[22:49] <@Yamiteh> i thought 2 ppl per instanc
[22:49] <@Yamiteh> 2 people can fight him at once
[22:49] <@Yamiteh> maybe thats what you mean?
[22:49] <@Cille`> 1 sec
[22:50] <@Music> i don't think two per week is accurate
[22:50] <@Cille`> You may have also noticed that Agaroth isn't on the list, this is because it can only be killed up to two times a week which doesn't fit well with the system.
[22:50] <@Cille`> That is who you're thinking about SM|Blood
[22:51] <@Music> agaroth is two/week ye
[22:51] <%SM|Blood> i believe someone from my clan said it, i dont know. time will tell I guess.
[22:51] <@Cille`> He is on the slayer boss list, so he should be nolife
[22:52] <@Cille`> But even if, it could be nice if we nolife him
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> alright well
[22:52] <@Cille`> we could teach people how to do it, be one of the first groups to come up with a drop log etc
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> if we nolife it we will prob get some exp with it
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> get good with it
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> then we can host teaching sessions
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> which will prob actually be in demand
[22:52] <@Cille`> Yep
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> that way we can meet some people and recruit them maybe
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> true those ppl may mostly be doing spider boss
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> but still
[22:52] <@Yamiteh> prob not all the time
[22:53] <@Cille`> I think every1 will to begin with
[22:53] <@Yamiteh> tbh just when araxxor comes out not sure how many people will be doing kk etc prob most of pvmers will try that
[22:53] <@Yamiteh> yea
[22:53] <@Cille`> Tiggy you said you'd be nolifing as well?
[22:53] <@Tiggy> yup
[22:54] <@Cille`> Ok so we have one more who can nolife, would you be interested in keeping up with a drop log like with kk? and possibly start teaching people once we find tactics etc
[22:54] <@Cille`> I think that could be neat if we have a drop log
[22:56] <@Music> o shit enlightenment resets in 1h
[22:56] <@Yamiteh> yea it would be really cool
[22:56] <@Music> but yeah, drop log would be awesome
[22:56] <@Yamiteh> maybe even write up a guide for rsof
[22:56] <@Yamiteh> first indepth guide to new boss
[22:56] <@Yamiteh> would get the word out
[22:56] <@Cille`> Yeah
[22:57] <@Cille`> Tiggy are you able to create a sheet where we can type in the drops manually, and it will add it to the summary list, but then if we type it more than once rather than adding it twice to the summary item list, it will increase in amount?
[22:57] <@Cille`> so basically like now, but you can add the items as you go (as we have no way of knowing specific drops)
[22:57] <@Tiggy> for axxor?
[22:58] <@Tiggy> araxxor*
[22:58] <@Cille`> yes
[22:58] <@Tiggy> Yeah, I can do that.
[22:58] <@Cille`> Alright awesome
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[23:01] <@X> [Lucky|] Beer + Curry = Happy Darkie | Sometimes at night I just look up at the moon and the stars and think "why the fuck am I naked in a field"
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[23:01] <@Cille`> Also should we post up an activity thread?
[23:01] <@Cille`> Give people set amount to post or get kicked
[23:01] <@Cille`> cos we have quite some inactive people atm..
[23:03] <@Yamiteh> hmm i dont know
[23:03] <@Yamiteh> we should be able to see who is active
[23:03] <@Music> there is an activity thread already kinda
[23:03] <@Yamiteh> maybe talk about that at meetings
[23:03] <@Yamiteh> i mean
[23:03] <@Yamiteh> for ranks
[23:03] <@Cille`> Well yeah but
[23:03] <@Yamiteh> else yea that activity thread where we post i guess
[23:03] <@Cille`> people need to be given a last chance now to show it
[23:03] <@Cille`> or next time it will be talked about
[23:03] <@Cille`> but I mean like
[23:03] <@Cille`> some people don't even read the section...
[23:05] <@Yamiteh> i see what you mean
[23:05] <@Yamiteh> idk :/
[23:05] <@Yamiteh> i guess those people shud just be
[23:05] <@Yamiteh> demoted to a lower rank
[23:05] <@Cille`> What a Mugg - Captain, last seen ?
[23:05] <@Cille`> qpw - Captain, Last seen ?
[23:05] <@Cille`> Two ranks who hasn't even been in an instance since the opening
[23:06] <@Music> well, mugg told me he'd be inactive and might be leaving the team
[23:07] <@Cille`> Alright
[23:07] <@Cille`> Just would be nice to know
[23:07] <@Yamiteh> dag is just idk
[23:07] <@Yamiteh> see him in fc
[23:07] <@Yamiteh> and i think he actively plays rs
[23:07] <@Yamiteh> but not sure if anything else
[23:07] <%SM|Blood> he was actively going for maxed and now on vacation
[23:08] <@Yamiteh> o yea
[23:08] <@Yamiteh> soo tbh
[23:08] <@Yamiteh> i just think that
[23:08] <@Yamiteh> make a thread where we can brainstorm ideas to get most out of araxxor?
[23:08] <@Music> go for it
[23:08] <@Yamiteh> then it will hopefully give us enough recognition and ppl to go on easily?
[23:09] <@Cille`> Yeah
[23:10] <@Cille`> Yamiteh can you make a thread about the meeting, what we talked about and agreed on. and also link this: http://www.smokinelite.com/t82267-going-inactive-post-here#1137513
[23:10] <@Yamiteh> jj
[23:10] <@Yamiteh> kk*
[23:10] <@Yamiteh> damn Music you had a blue? :o
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[23:10] <@Cille`> Have some kind of activity check in it, and people who don't post will simply get demoted or kicked
[23:10] <@Yamiteh> ill make those threads now
[23:11] <%SM|Blood> oh since we're here at this meeting, what are your thoughts/plans for opening up to other bosses?
[23:11] <@Cille`> ty
[23:11] <@Music> I had a phat st lol
[23:11] <@Music> like 12b
[23:11] <@Cille`> It will be done SM|Blood, especially now with the new boss
[23:11] <@Cille`> but it will be done gradually
[23:11] <@Yamiteh> sold it Music ?
[23:12] <@Yamiteh> ummm
[23:12] <@Cille`> At this moment we don't have the people to open up to other bosses
[23:12] <@Yamiteh> can i just put chat logs to the meeting notes?
[23:12] <@Yamiteh> lol
[23:12] <@Yamiteh> .logs
[23:12] <%SM|Blood> everyone can do the lower gwd bosses and corp
[23:12] <@Yamiteh> !log
[23:12] <%SM|Blood> easy to open up to others'
[23:12] <@Cille`> Yeah they can, but if people come in and say they want to do bandos, and people are kking
[23:12] <@Yamiteh> there we go http://chanstat.net/logs/swiftirc/0tEwy2MHuQ/%23sm_pvm/1406070755
[23:12] <@Cille`> I doubt any1 will want to switch
[23:13] <%SM|Blood> yeah, but not everyone has to be doing the same thing in the fc
[23:13] <@Yamiteh> yea the problem is we may end up with a bunch of ppl unable to get teams
[23:13] <%SM|Blood> some could be kk;ing, others could be doing bandos, some could be doing something else.
[23:13] <@Yamiteh> thats the plan in the future
[23:13] <@Cille`> I mean gwd all solo bosses nowadays
[23:13] <%SM|Blood> cant get teams, try another time or wait.
[23:14] <@Cille`> Tiggy and I were just doing all 4 bosses without eating pretty much
[23:14] <@Cille`> Like I guess if people want to go gwd they can, I won't stop them
[23:14] <@Cille`> but no point going in a team if you can solo
[23:15] <@Cille`> btw Yamiteh I can't read the link
[23:15] <%SM|Blood> some people dont have the levels, some people dont have the gear, some do but prefer duoing to make trips last longer/keep them entertained or w/e
[23:15] <%SM|Blood> just another way to go about things, nothing wrong with your way by any means.
[23:16] <@Cille`> I suppose we could change things up, offer all bosses but like
[23:16] <@Yamiteh> what do you mean you cant read it Cille` ? :o
[23:16] <@Cille`> say we won't do anymore than duo or trio for gwd (except from nex maybe)
[23:16] <@Cille`> It says I don't thave permission to read it
[23:16] <@Cille`> !logs
[23:16] <@Cille`> !log
[23:17] <@Cille`> Yeah you need your own unique link I think
[23:17] <@Cille`> cos mine is different from yours
[23:18] <@Yamiteh> oh..