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  1. [ 2015.11.29 04:00:06 ] Zevix > cannot wait untill ccp fixes this damn booster bug
  2. [ 2015.11.29 04:00:26 ] Resaec Fitsuga > That'd be a real problem.
  3. [ 2015.11.29 04:01:05 ] Zevix > why cant cloaky campers suffer the effect of a cloak being on but being scannable/targetable the way booster gagnlinks are on but giving no bonuses randomly lately?
  4. [ 2015.11.29 04:01:36 ] Zevix > I bet you if it WAS the cloak that shit would be fixed IMMEDIATELY
  5. [ 2015.11.29 04:04:23 ] Uluru Blok > What is the booster bug?
  6. [ 2015.11.29 04:04:36 ] Uluru Blok > ...and when did it start?
  7. [ 2015.11.29 04:04:42 ] Zevix > suddenly it will act like the ganglinks adn core arent on
  8. [ 2015.11.29 04:04:57 ] Zevix > been weeks now. its random and sudden
  9. [ 2015.11.29 04:05:05 ] Uluru Blok > Since a recent patch?
  10. [ 2015.11.29 04:05:32 ] Zevix > no, there have been a few patches since but it might have been from the last big patch
  11. [ 2015.11.29 04:07:27 ] Uluru Blok > I have run a few Rorq fleets in the last few weeks but have never seen it
  12. [ 2015.11.29 04:07:37 ] Uluru Blok > it is annoying though
  13. [ 2015.11.29 04:07:45 ] Zevix > its hit a few of the long term boosters recently
  14. [ 2015.11.29 04:08:05 ] Phoenix Rageheart > O hey zev I updated my graphics drivers and the tearing stopped
  15. [ 2015.11.29 04:08:09 ] Zevix > ogten happens to me later in the night a bit before downtime
  16. [ 2015.11.29 04:08:20 ] Zevix > ahh, was the card
  17. [ 2015.11.29 04:08:22 ] Uluru Blok > and you are right. If it was a combat bug it would be fixed straight away
  18. [ 2015.11.29 04:09:20 ] Uluru Blok > /emote sends a jetcan with coffee and cookies to the guy he shot at
  19. [ 2015.11.29 04:09:39 ] Ronin Ruin > their is alot of ice in this field still lol
  20. [ 2015.11.29 04:10:15 ] Zevix > icebelts are big. hard to clear with just a small handful of people. takes a 6-8 account person a few hours to mine out even
  21. [ 2015.11.29 04:10:20 ] Uluru Blok > Yup... need to kill it so we get some Gelidus and Glare Crust as someone already cherry picked it earlier
  22. [ 2015.11.29 04:10:38 ] Zevix > thats why most people only prioritize absed on need and/or value
  23. [ 2015.11.29 04:10:49 ] Zevix > based*
  24. [ 2015.11.29 04:10:58 ] Uluru Blok > Yes. Pretty rude of whoever it was
  25. [ 2015.11.29 04:11:27 ] Zevix > not like it would be fair to only mine the veldspar in an ore belt just so someone else can swoop in saying thanks for leaving me all the good stuff adn taking the crap
  26. [ 2015.11.29 04:11:49 ] Zevix > its not so much rude as pragmatic really
  27. [ 2015.11.29 04:12:15 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > Zev has a point there.
  28. [ 2015.11.29 04:12:15 ] Ronin Ruin > i just mine everything i dont discriminate lmao
  29. [ 2015.11.29 04:12:35 ] Zevix > with the limited time I actually get to play Ill prioritize. but on my days off Im the first to volunteer to clear out the belt of low value too. its a balance
  30. [ 2015.11.29 04:12:43 ] Uluru Blok > But the game spans many timezones. so if they raid the belts after DT then others ALWAYS miss out
  31. [ 2015.11.29 04:12:54 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > I mine the good stuff first. It only makes sense. Early bird gets the worm
  32. [ 2015.11.29 04:13:16 ] Zevix > all belts respawn after 4 hours. time enough for everyone to get something
  33. [ 2015.11.29 04:13:44 ] Uluru Blok > Only respawn after 4 hours if they are mined out first
  34. [ 2015.11.29 04:14:17 ] Uluru Blok > there has been no DG, GC, or gelidus in this ice field for more than 11 hours
  35. [ 2015.11.29 04:14:21 ] Zevix > yeah, but this is why I like this constellation. lots of belts in lots of systems. no one can never say what they need isnt available
  36. [ 2015.11.29 04:14:39 ] Uluru Blok > Sadly they raid the good stuff then don't mine the rest out
  37. [ 2015.11.29 04:14:45 ] Valborusmage85 > apart from mercoxit lol
  38. [ 2015.11.29 04:15:27 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > If there is only one or two guys in a proc, it takes a long time
  39. [ 2015.11.29 04:15:43 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > lol @ Valborusmage85
  40. [ 2015.11.29 04:15:59 ] Uluru Blok > Pragmatism is like the kind of capitalism that exists now... it is OK to fuck other people over as long as you make a profit
  41. [ 2015.11.29 04:17:13 ] Zevix > we also share. boosts, protection, minerals, ices. its not like what ores/ices you need arent in the next system and plenty of boosts available everywhere. not to mention you can boost yourself
  42. [ 2015.11.29 04:17:57 ] Zevix > opportunity has its timing. not fair to ask everyone to hold off jsut cause I cant login to get what I need
  43. [ 2015.11.29 04:20:52 ] Uluru Blok > It is not fair that people do NOT consider others who can't log in
  44. [ 2015.11.29 04:21:26 ] Uluru Blok > It is a jack attitude to mine the good stuff and leave the other stuff so the system does not respawn
  45. [ 2015.11.29 04:21:58 ] Zevix > if this was real life and we knew you were alive adn going to wake up in the morning...maybe. but this is a game that you may not login for days, weeks, months, years. how are we suppose to know what to leave just for you and for how long?
  46. [ 2015.11.29 04:22:08 ] Valborusmage85 > I make drakes so tend to mine nearly everything
  47. [ 2015.11.29 04:22:54 ] Uluru Blok > You can defend being a dick all you like. But it is still a dick move.
  48. [ 2015.11.29 04:23:18 ] Zevix > its a game, and while we all do our best to clear things its not usually possible to do so consistently. so we all ahve to do our best adn get along
  49. [ 2015.11.29 04:23:34 ] Uluru Blok > If they waited until before DT then took it all it wouldn't matter
  50. [ 2015.11.29 04:23:44 ] Valborusmage85 > From what I can remember whomever was in the icebelt and left the icicles had been mining for around 8hrs
  51. [ 2015.11.29 04:24:00 ] Zevix > maybe you need a system with a majority of players from a different timezone then?
  52. [ 2015.11.29 04:24:21 ] Uluru Blok > but they take it. Leave the belt with nothing but CI. tso it doesn't respawn all day, then after DT go in and do it again
  53. [ 2015.11.29 04:24:41 ] Uluru Blok > Or a system where people do the right thing
  54. [ 2015.11.29 04:24:42 ] Zevix > I honestly dont think its so specifically targeted like that
  55. [ 2015.11.29 04:24:44 ] Valborusmage85 > aren't we from all kinds of timezones here, like its game time here
  56. [ 2015.11.29 04:25:17 ] Zevix > I often end up mining only clear for weeks at a time, I dont gripe about it cause thats the way shit happens
  57. [ 2015.11.29 04:25:28 ] Valborusmage85 > but when I went off at around 6am someone from oz popped on
  58. [ 2015.11.29 04:26:32 ] Zevix > there is a lot less glitter/clear/gel than there is clear. and not everyone can stay on for 12-24 hours in a single miner to clear everything
  59. [ 2015.11.29 04:26:50 ] Valborusmage85 > luck of the draw really
  60. [ 2015.11.29 04:27:00 ] Zevix > I getthat, so I dont let mining only clear ruin my gameplay and gladly mine the clear
  61. [ 2015.11.29 04:28:00 ] Zevix > really, you think about it, if the "good stuff" were here youd be mining that adn someone who logs in after you could make the same arguement against you. "why didnt you start with the clear first so I had a chance!?"
  62. [ 2015.11.29 04:28:30 ] Valborusmage85 > Didn't know rats could appear at a pos
  63. [ 2015.11.29 04:28:39 ] Uluru Blok > Sadly the draw revolves around DT. Some of the world always misses out. This is just one example. When patches happen it is during late hours or early morning for EU/US.... but in the middle of game time for Eastern hemisphere
  64. [ 2015.11.29 04:28:45 ] Zevix > yup, gates, outpost, POS. anywhere really
  65. [ 2015.11.29 04:29:15 ] Zevix > timing for US players in provi sucks balls.we miss all the good stuff
  66. [ 2015.11.29 04:29:19 ] Valborusmage85 > got four hanging outside doing nothing
  67. [ 2015.11.29 04:29:43 ] Uluru Blok > offer them bad coffee, or fart... they may leave
  68. [ 2015.11.29 04:29:49 ] Valborusmage85 > lol
  69. [ 2015.11.29 04:29:54 ] Zevix > there just isnt really even many US timezone players by proportion in all of eve. its mostly euro
  70. [ 2015.11.29 04:30:09 ] Valborusmage85 > not as if they can get through
  71. [ 2015.11.29 04:30:17 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > Valborusmage85 which pos?!?!
  72. [ 2015.11.29 04:30:26 ] Zevix > aracelies?
  73. [ 2015.11.29 04:30:52 ] Uluru Blok > Just warp to Valborusmage85 at 100km
  74. [ 2015.11.29 04:30:57 ] Valborusmage85 > whichever one I got access to the crusher at
  75. [ 2015.11.29 04:31:03 ] Valborusmage85 > I'm back in field
  76. [ 2015.11.29 04:31:24 ] Zevix > yeah, thats my girlfriends
  77. [ 2015.11.29 04:31:26 ] Valborusmage85 > will warp back if someones wants to get them
  78. [ 2015.11.29 04:31:50 ] Valborusmage85 > think they followed me here
  79. [ 2015.11.29 04:31:59 ] Zevix > Im still sort of surprised you still mine here Valbo. with your corp having moved to catch I figured youd go with
  80. [ 2015.11.29 04:32:19 ] Valborusmage85 > they are webbing me
  81. [ 2015.11.29 04:32:30 ] Valborusmage85 > cant move
  82. [ 2015.11.29 04:32:33 ] Zevix > if you ditched the multiple stripeprs Id consider recruiting you so youd get more infrastructure here :P
  83. [ 2015.11.29 04:32:44 ] Valborusmage85 > help
  84. [ 2015.11.29 04:32:53 ] Zevix > coming
  85. [ 2015.11.29 04:33:18 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > a sea of procs to your rescue
  86. [ 2015.11.29 04:33:24 ] Zevix > single stripper tanks, BS class
  87. [ 2015.11.29 04:33:39 ] Valborusmage85 > lol not had rats this bad before, must be pissed at all the ones i've killed oday
  88. [ 2015.11.29 04:34:03 ] Zevix > thats a common spawn actually, surprised you havent seen it more often
  89. [ 2015.11.29 04:34:06 ] Valborusmage85 > I do have a proc just set up for ice
  90. [ 2015.11.29 04:34:17 ] Zevix > procs are great for ore too
  91. [ 2015.11.29 04:34:50 ] Valborusmage85 > looking to build one for ore
  92. [ 2015.11.29 04:35:03 ] Zevix > want a bpc for the proc? Ill give for free
  93. [ 2015.11.29 04:35:42 ] Valborusmage85 > was looking earlier and they are all so far away, if you wish as can build it
  94. [ 2015.11.29 04:35:46 ] Uluru Blok > Procs have a small ore bay... have to waste a toon on hauling
  95. [ 2015.11.29 04:36:38 ] Uluru Blok > I don't afk mine so tank is not such an issue
  96. [ 2015.11.29 04:37:02 ] Valborusmage85 > neither do I or a red would have popped me earlier
  97. [ 2015.11.29 04:39:49 ] Zevix > warping to pos and back takes hardly any time. what you lose in warp you more than makeup for in being able to mine and rat at the same time without trading ships or warping away from rats
  98. [ 2015.11.29 04:40:22 ] Uluru Blok > If you think so
  99. [ 2015.11.29 04:40:27 ] Zevix > I know so
  100. [ 2015.11.29 04:40:34 ] Uluru Blok > fine
  101. [ 2015.11.29 04:40:36 ] Zevix > 10 years of game experience and running numbers
  102. [ 2015.11.29 04:40:45 ] Valborusmage85 > especially with all these damned rats appearing
  103. [ 2015.11.29 04:41:58 ] Zevix > plus the positive effect against reds means less reds adn less camping which means more mining
  104. [ 2015.11.29 04:42:48 ] Uluru Blok > I don't see the correllation between Procs and less reds
  105. [ 2015.11.29 04:43:57 ] Zevix > its been confirmed by many reds in the past. they see procs adn skiffs adn they are much less likely to come or stay cause of the tank on them. they see 2 or 3 strippers and they want to 1 shot kill those guys so they come back more foten or camp
  106. [ 2015.11.29 04:44:43 ] Uluru Blok > Maybe.
  107. [ 2015.11.29 04:44:45 ] Zevix > they see jetcans, they see tears they can create over lost production time and handy bookmark locations for fast actions
  108. [ 2015.11.29 04:45:30 ] Zevix > if you jetcan, they KNOW where you are going to be. no jetcans and warp right away and they cant be sure where to strike
  109. [ 2015.11.29 04:45:45 ] Uluru Blok > Mackinaw large hold means you warp three times less. Have a good tank, and you don't need to jetcan...
  110. [ 2015.11.29 04:46:22 ] Zevix > that is nota good tank. your still 1 shot material for a bomber or t3 cruiser whch is common for reds
  111. [ 2015.11.29 04:46:27 ] Uluru Blok > as long as you are aligned and watching intel and local you can warp before they scan
  112. [ 2015.11.29 04:46:31 ] Valborusmage85 > tank is better on proc than mack
  113. [ 2015.11.29 04:46:44 ] Uluru Blok > true
  114. [ 2015.11.29 04:46:51 ] Zevix > and reliance on intel channels is death
  115. [ 2015.11.29 04:47:02 ] Uluru Blok > but that is its' only advantage really
  116. [ 2015.11.29 04:47:25 ] Zevix > sure, you might have a big hold, but you have to warp away a lot more cause of simple rats and this ruins all your efficiency
  117. [ 2015.11.29 04:47:31 ] Uluru Blok > so why is watching local any different for a mack driver or a proc driver?
  118. [ 2015.11.29 04:47:50 ] Phoenix Rageheart > Proth Demona no results
  119. [ 2015.11.29 04:48:04 ] Uluru Blok > Disagree. Three Macks with drones gives me great anti-rat capacity
  120. [ 2015.11.29 04:48:20 ] Phoenix Rageheart > starter corp 2 years
  121. [ 2015.11.29 04:48:20 ] Valborusmage85 > isn't that an npc corp
  122. [ 2015.11.29 04:48:23 ] Zevix > Proth Demona no killboard
  123. [ 2015.11.29 04:48:39 ] Valborusmage85 > I'm gonna go with someones alt
  124. [ 2015.11.29 04:48:46 ] Zevix > or scout
  125. [ 2015.11.29 04:50:25 ] Uluru Blok > OK. 860 blocks of ice. Calling it while I go for a swim.
  126. [ 2015.11.29 04:50:35 ] Zevix > blok, I will grant you that warp away speed is about the only level ground a muti stripper has with a single. but it loses out in nearly everything else, especially the pyschological magnet to reds
  127. [ 2015.11.29 04:50:56 ] Uluru Blok > Meh.
  128. [ 2015.11.29 04:51:10 ] Valborusmage85 > how long does a proc take to build
  129. [ 2015.11.29 04:51:13 ] Zevix > we were amped for over a week recently
  130. [ 2015.11.29 04:51:23 ] Uluru Blok > I think they will warp to a belt regardless of what is in there.
  131. [ 2015.11.29 04:51:26 ] Zevix > hardly any time valbo
  132. [ 2015.11.29 04:51:45 ] Uluru Blok > They jump in with the scan window open. Pick a belt then warp there.
  133. [ 2015.11.29 04:52:03 ] Zevix > they dscan right away, they see procs adn skiffs and they warp to the next gate, multiple strippers and they stay longer every time
  134. [ 2015.11.29 04:53:17 ] Uluru Blok > If they see a hulk, where do they warp to?
  135. [ 2015.11.29 04:53:31 ] Zevix > depends where the scan shows them
  136. [ 2015.11.29 04:53:49 ] Uluru Blok > lolz... so they take time to use Dscan
  137. [ 2015.11.29 04:53:49 ] Zevix > usually enormous or ice first
  138. [ 2015.11.29 04:54:13 ] Zevix > yes, this is how you know they are more interested. they see hulk and they scan shit down
  139. [ 2015.11.29 04:54:19 ] Uluru Blok > If you go roaming with good PvPers... they do not do that. They take a chance on surprise
  140. [ 2015.11.29 04:54:58 ] Zevix > the reds that come here collect intel and mean to come back if opportunity arises. most provi roams are 1 offs
  141. [ 2015.11.29 04:55:13 ] Zevix > Valborusmage85 Procurer Blueprint (Item Exchange)
  142. [ 2015.11.29 04:55:15 ] Uluru Blok > If a system has Ice... they go straght there. If it has a large belt they go straight there
  143. [ 2015.11.29 04:55:42 ] Zevix > depends on the red, but your not wrong in amny cases
  144. [ 2015.11.29 04:55:53 ] Uluru Blok > If it makes you feel safer, just do it.
  145. [ 2015.11.29 04:56:22 ] Uluru Blok > I am willing to risk the ships for the increased rate of collection.
  146. [ 2015.11.29 04:56:39 ] Zevix > its not a question of feel. we have system loss data to back us up. kills in fc are up isntantly by 50% since apoc took over dduring a time that is typically a reduction in kills
  147. [ 2015.11.29 04:57:10 ] Zevix > but you arent jsut risking yourself blok. you want people to be considerate of you, it begins with being considerate of them adn their safety
  148. [ 2015.11.29 04:57:31 ] Uluru Blok > Publish your data to leadership. Maybe they will agree. On the other hand, there are also more people here now.
  149. [ 2015.11.29 04:57:53 ] Zevix > we actually lost a lot of people when you came
  150. [ 2015.11.29 04:58:00 ] Zevix > they didnt like the new landlords
  151. [ 2015.11.29 04:58:42 ] Uluru Blok > Ahhhh. Consideration. There's the rub. If consideration was an issue then the Ice issue would not arise. You can't have it both ways.
  152. [ 2015.11.29 04:58:54 ] Zevix > I think you guys are alright personally. jsut a little stubborn :P
  153. [ 2015.11.29 04:59:05 ] Phoenix Rageheart > Uluru Blok you are crazy
  154. [ 2015.11.29 04:59:17 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > dude, you complained about ice, and now you have people helping clear it. Consideration
  155. [ 2015.11.29 04:59:21 ] Uluru Blok > hello? Pot calling Kettle....
  156. [ 2015.11.29 04:59:30 ] Phoenix Rageheart > I am this supposed cherry picker and I'm also the person who depleted the previous icefield
  157. [ 2015.11.29 04:59:42 ] Uluru Blok > True. Good on you for helping.
  158. [ 2015.11.29 05:00:18 ] Uluru Blok > Well. Cherry picking is a little rude.
  159. [ 2015.11.29 05:00:23 ] Zevix > lol, love it when passionate people get together
  160. [ 2015.11.29 05:00:40 ] Phoenix Rageheart > I mined what was in front of me
  161. [ 2015.11.29 05:00:49 ] Phoenix Rageheart > just because you got the shit end of it doesnt make me a bad person
  162. [ 2015.11.29 05:01:07 ] Zevix > bad timing happens to everyone...often
  163. [ 2015.11.29 05:01:15 ] Uluru Blok > I am going for a swim. Sitting here playing EVE in my underpants and the sweat is making me grumpy. As is the coffee burn on my groing.
  164. [ 2015.11.29 05:01:17 ] Zevix > not everyone can win the lottery
  165. [ 2015.11.29 05:01:34 ] Zevix > enjoy the swim blok :)
  166. [ 2015.11.29 05:01:39 ] Uluru Blok > o7
  167. [ 2015.11.29 05:01:46 ] Phoenix Rageheart > o7 god be with you
  168. [ 2015.11.29 05:02:07 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > somebody may have taken all the pool noodles
  169. [ 2015.11.29 05:02:26 ] Uluru Blok > No problem. It is in my back yard.
  170. [ 2015.11.29 05:03:14 ] Uluru Blok > And my daughter has six of her University friends over.
  171. [ 2015.11.29 05:03:35 ] Charles Omnibus Fascilitator > so....
  172. [ 2015.11.29 05:03:41 ] Valborusmage85 > lol
  173. [ 2015.11.29 05:04:00 ] Uluru Blok > They are all swimming
  174. [ 2015.11.29 05:04:21 ] Uluru Blok > later all
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