Madison The Reaper > English speaker?
Hrothgar Nilsson > yes and German
Madison The Reaper > Alright cool.  Friends with a ganker and was looking to get into station trading and he sadly was not able to help.  He told me about some of the work you did and the charity that you did to CODE., and was wondering if you could offer me some tips of
Madison The Reaper > the trade or general adivce.
Hrothgar Nilsson > how much ISK does he have?
Madison The Reaper > ~5 bill to trade with.
Madison The Reaper > and a toon with near perfect trade skills.
Hrothgar Nilsson > tell him to trade in Dodixie, Amarr, or Rens.  work the spread on battleships, battlecruisers, faction ships that cost less than 500 million
Hrothgar Nilsson > any ship under 500 million
Hrothgar Nilsson > then when he gets to 10 or 20 billion
Hrothgar Nilsson > add freighters, orcas, and marauders, and 500 million+ ships to the mix.
Hrothgar Nilsson > i only trade high value, good margin, slow-moving goods.
Madison The Reaper > I am looking for the help not him lol.  He does super carrier ratting out in null so he makes isk lol.
Hrothgar Nilsson > i only need to check my orders 5x a day to make billions.
Hrothgar Nilsson > oh.
Madison The Reaper > hmm maybe that was my issue.
Hrothgar Nilsson > then you do what i instructed.  very simple to make billions in smaller hubs.  avoid jita.
Madison The Reaper > I was always doing high volume stuff and seemed to never get ahead.
Hrothgar Nilsson > jita moves too fast and the margins are too small
Hrothgar Nilsson > don't do high volume
Hrothgar Nilsson > high price, low volume.
Hrothgar Nilsson > i guarantee you will make money.
Madison The Reaper > Thank you for the advice and I will try it out when I get back to uni in about a week.  <br><br>I would like to get to the point where I am able to help fund my own ganking, and maybe help supply other gankers eventually.
Hrothgar Nilsson > just remember this.  pretty simple
Hrothgar Nilsson > high-priced ships, low volume, check your orders a few times a day, organize them by ship type in the quickbar, make sure the margin makes for a profitable spread with the broker/seller's fees, and start with ships you can afford to trade, before moving
Hrothgar Nilsson > up to ships that cost over 500 million ISK.
Hrothgar Nilsson > no jita.  amarr, dodixie, rens.
Hrothgar Nilsson > you are a pandemic legion associate of the New Order?  or at least, you were formerly?
Madison The Reaper > Roomate is lol
Hrothgar Nilsson > ok.
Madison The Reaper > <loc><url=showinfo:1377//96652718>Nice Trap m8</url>
Madison The Reaper > he runs that alliance.
Hrothgar Nilsson > New Order takes everybody.  I've fought Pandemic Legion and lost, but I respect them.  They defeated us with N3 when I was in a Solar Pet Alliance.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I also gave them a CFC titan, due to the respect they earned from me in wiping the floor with us and Solar Fleet.
Madison The Reaper > Yeah null was fun but not a fan of the current set up.  With the new moon mining update I feel as if it will make Goons, and PanFam only stronger.
Madison The Reaper > Smaller alliances wont have the ability to deal with citadel timers as effectivly as mega alliances such as Goons, and PanFam.
Hrothgar Nilsson > it was the one time I did something untrustworthy in the game.  I gave N3 a POS password during the Test/N3/PL war against the CFC, before it became the Imperium.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I respected PL/N3/NC. for kicking our ass so much, I had to give them a titan to kill.
Madison The Reaper > I havent dont anything to bad in the game yet lol.  Other than small market minipulations nothing major.
Hrothgar Nilsson > espionage and tradecraft, metagaming, are as legitimate in the game as any other legitimate activity.
Madison The Reaper > I moved barges and exhumers out to the regions hit hard by gankers and buy up all the barges on the market under 32 mill and just raise the prices up in the region.
Madison The Reaper > Basically profiting and stocking the ponds for gankers.
Hrothgar Nilsson > We all help out in the ways we're good at.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I provided money, message, morale, propaganda, logistics via neutral alts in the form of freighter resupply to New Order logistical centers, I hire mercenaries to supplement New Order activities via AOEEI, and so on.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I station trade to fund these metagaming activities.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I was one of the major bankrollers and logistical guys in the summer period of the Battle of Uedama.  I also joined in an popped 100 billion worth in freighters in loyal's fleets.
Hrothgar Nilsson > 2015
Madison The Reaper > yeah my roomate told me about loyal.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I saw a way to turn tens of billions of ISK into trillions of ISK worth of kills, by metagaming.
Hrothgar Nilsson > Yup.  I helped make loyal in the Battle of Uedama.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I was one of the levers behind his actions.
Madison The Reaper > Have never been a victim to a gank but have heard he is a great FC from Trap.
Hrothgar Nilsson > loyal got banned, I was attending to RL priorities when this all went down.
Madison The Reaper > he mentioned it but I didnt know whta for or why.
Hrothgar Nilsson > so I cannot comment on loyal and internal New Order politics.  I was always tangetial to the personalities in the New Order.  I just put one big fat thumb on the scale for the Battle of Uedma.
Hrothgar Nilsson > Uedama.
Hrothgar Nilsson > <url=showinfo:1373//2112544368>Madison The Reaper</url> because loyal lost his cool and crossed the threshold.
Hrothgar Nilsson > He let his jimmies get rustled.  An agent never lets anybody rustle their jimmies.
Hrothgar Nilsson > So, he failed as an agent, by being successfully rustled.
Madison The Reaper > he pop off in local or something?
Hrothgar Nilsson > he popped off everywhere, unfortunately.
Hrothgar Nilsson > from what I've gathered.
Madison The Reaper > ouch
Hrothgar Nilsson > I wasn't there, so I only know things secondhand.
Madison The Reaper > yeah that'll do it for you.
Hrothgar Nilsson > but from what I've come to understand secondhand.... loyal allowed his jimmies to get rustled from within and without, by antis and carebears.
Hrothgar Nilsson > and agent NEVER lets anybody rustle their jimmies.  Whether they're in the New Order, another agent, or a carebear/anti.
Madison The Reaper > Other than watching Dom, and Tweeps fight in Minerbumping most gankers seem way more layed back than any other pilots.
Hrothgar Nilsson > getting your jimmies rustled is a surefire way to crossing the threshold and getting banned.
Hrothgar Nilsson > I saw that.
Hrothgar Nilsson > They were allowing one another to rustle each others Jimmies.
Madison The Reaper > Trap is just as chill in game as he is in real life.  Was pretty insane that I ended up rooming with him in college lol.
Hrothgar Nilsson > An agent never gets rustled.  An agent plays it cool.
Madison The Reaper > End of the day its a game.  Those who cant seperate the game from reality need to take a step back sometimes lol.
Hrothgar Nilsson > One can roleplay a sociopath within limits or a ruthless warrior, but internally the agent needs to keep a calm and collected composure.
Hrothgar Nilsson > cold on the inside, hot on the outside (but never breaking CCP rules)
Hrothgar Nilsson > i'll give you an example
Hrothgar Nilsson > this is my station trader
Hrothgar Nilsson > look at her bio
Hrothgar Nilsson > that bio is roleplay.  it is edgy, but not a rule violation.
Madison The Reaper > <loc><url=showinfo:1377//97163891>Cute Scanner Girl</url>
Madison The Reaper > lol same
Madison The Reaper > thats a scout for my freighters, and I scout ganks sometime
Hrothgar Nilsson > You see - I can use seemingly racist language - my station trader makes money for Hrothgar, and is also a Brutor Slave Child
Hrothgar Nilsson > she is black
Hrothgar Nilsson > all of those elements, while they seem somewhat racist in real-life
Hrothgar Nilsson > have direct relevance to EVE lore.
Hrothgar Nilsson > black minmatar, slave child, brutor slave, white husband (me)
Madison The Reaper > yeah
Hrothgar Nilsson > any other questions I could help you with?  i have a tendency to pontificate.  In real life, there's feedback in the form of body language and social cues to cut it out.
Hrothgar Nilsson > in text-based communication, those cues are lost. but if you need help with anything, add me as a contact and I'll give you tips and advice from time to time.
Madison The Reaper > I am out of questions but was great talking to you.  I have always played EVE really really passivly and I think this will help me step up my in game experance quite a bit.
Hrothgar Nilsson > station trading slow-moving, high value ships is quite passive.
Hrothgar Nilsson > you only need to update 5 or 10 times a day.
Hrothgar Nilsson > it is the most passive form of station trading.
Hrothgar Nilsson > but, i'll let you get to it.  see you in minerbumping o/
Madison The Reaper > its more active than what I have been doing lol.  <br><br>Checking Zkill once a day for systems that have been hit hard, and JFing 30 barges out there to slap on the market
Madison The Reaper > o7 ty again
Hrothgar Nilsson > np