[Tukkun Hours] 3rd Time - Chat Log

Tukkun: Um... so, hi everyone

Tukkun: This is the third Tukkun Hours event

Axiss32: Hey Tukkun

Shashakiro: hello

Toa_of_Pi: hi

Tukkun: So apparently there is no scheduled content

Tukkun: so I'll be working on what YOU want me to work on, I guess

Shashakiro: can we have a shift-buy in the awesome shop

Tukkun: Would you rather I work on existing content to fix existing issues with the game, or completely new things?

Tukkun: Shashakiro, I plan to revise the Awesome Shop completely in the future

AurebeshX: oh hey

Tukkun: The current "use reputation to buy stuff" is highly discouraging for newer players, and for players with max reputation it's somewhat OP

Shashakiro: yeah that's true

Tukkun: so I plan to make it so each time you adventure you get 1 "point" of some sort, which can be exchanged for items

Axiss32: And maybe a little unfair for players who have negative rep

Tukkun: Yeah, true.

AurebeshX: i thought you could spend neg rep as thought it were positive, and the cost was added to your rep?

Tukkun: You can't, actually

AurebeshX: huh, ok

Shashakiro: well let's see, the other thing I had in mind was possibly a change to what counts as "favorable" demand change in lolmarket

Shashakiro: the gist of it being that demand going up when I have 1/840 of a gem is not favorable

Shashakiro: I think the game treats it as favorable though

Anonymity: oh that

Anonymity: aggreed

Anonymity: *agreed

Tukkun: Noted.

Tukkun: How about you must have 50% or more of your capacity

Shashakiro: great.

Tukkun: So, um, I have some new contents planned

Tukkun: 1. House

Shashakiro: and if you do that, probably also edit the tech light lolmarket check to operate similarly :)

Tukkun: 2. Revamped achievements and quests

Tukkun: 3. An "incremental" area in the Battle Arena

AurebeshX: what does that mean, exactly?

Tukkun: The third thing?

AurebeshX: aye

Toa_of_Pi: any idea of an ETA of 2? I'm curious how much time I have left to work on this pong quest...

Shashakiro: I've always wondered what the revampled achievements and quests idea was myself

Tukkun: I'll talk about the third thing first, then come back to the second thing

Toa_of_Pi: ok

Shashakiro: personally I think you're playing with fire there but I'm intrigued

Tukkun: Basically, it has come to my attention that most popular idle games nowadays are either incremental or have incremental aspects of some sort

Tukkun: Like, you would buy upgrades and your number would increase at an insanely higher speed

Axiss32: Awesome, capped out HV mod efficiency in 7k PBs

Anonymity: like 1.337e+1337?

Tukkun: Yeah

Tukkun: Like that

Calvingrnwld: possibly make a minigame in AI with that.. it would be cool xD

Tukkun: Most of those games involve "clicking" a certain object

Liquidplays: anti idle capitalist

Tukkun: and then you buy upgrades to increase your "DPS" of some sort

Tukkun: usually in the form of crew members

Toa_of_Pi: dont we already have that with the button and grandpas?

Shashakiro: cookie clicker and clicker heroes are the ones I played

Shashakiro: but those got so boring and I quit

Axiss32: Me tooù

Tukkun: and it usually has "areas", like you kill 10 monsters and then you can proceed to the next area

Anonymity: inb4 autoclicker

Axiss32: And COTLI, which is more boring than others

Tukkun: I plan to make a similar thing, but instead of clicking, Battle Arena concepts are used

Calvingrnwld: ive played too many.. and the only one that you can keep coming back to is AI

Parsee: In one hour, I'll have Disgaea 5 in my hands.

Parsee: And you all shall never see Parsee again.

Axiss32: RIP

Anonymity: F

Ultimafarmer: disgaea RIP ur life

Liquidplays: [*]

Axiss32: AG trees with 2.1b Harv. Value <3

Tukkun: The area will use some additional "incremental" upgrades

Tukkun: to allow your damage to get as high as around 10^700

Tukkun: or something ridiculous like that

Liquidplays: sounds good

Shashakiro: can it like.

Tukkun: but other things, such as your equipment and skills, are the same as other areas

Shashakiro: not.

Shashakiro: be super rewarding and game breaking plz

Parsee: lolwut

Parsee: Whoa. Shashakiro exists.

Axiss32: I just hope they won't like it because too complex

Tukkun: Rewards will actually be linear (other than the currency that's exclusive to the area)

Parsee: I broke my old level 10 FCG streak.

Tukkun: What do you mean, Axiss?

Tukkun: Like, you hope other people will not like the content?

Tukkun: That's a pretty awkward thing to hope for

Axiss32: The idiots, I mean.

Parsee: He hopes the reason people don't like it, is because it's too hard for them, but just right for Room 1'ers.

Tukkun: It will be pretty far from complex

Toa_of_Pi: my big concern is that those games usually start out ok, but then gets boring kinda quick, and obscenely repetative (and then they just all blend together)

Tukkun: and aimed towards a very wide audience

Axiss32: No wait......I wanted to say "I hope they will like the game because not so complex"...):

Shashakiro: can it scale down as a player progresses

Tukkun: Because it seems we are in dire need of a new BA area anyway

Tukkun: and many people find Anti-Idle inaccessible because it is so different from what is popular nowadays

Shashakiro: like it's quite efficient in the beginning and gradually becomes kind of bad

Axiss32: Yea, new stuff is always the best

Toa_of_Pi: but thats what makes it so awesome, the fact that it doesn't follow the same cookie cutter formula of everything else out there

Tukkun: Shashakiro, I plan to make it so the primary source of rewards from the area is actually from CLEARING areas, rather than from killing

Toa_of_Pi: its something unique instead of just the same exact thing as a dozen other games but with different graphics

Tukkun: It will use that familiar concept of "kill X monsters in a certain period of time to proceed to next area"

Tukkun: and whenever you get to the next area (which likely requires some grinding to purchase upgrades), you get EXP and rewards and stuff

Parsee: Flashbacks to Hero Clicker

Tukkun: This way you will be actually motivated to get stronger

Axiss32: But whenever you can't progress to next area for some reasons, iit's because you have too low Attack for kill the enemy within some seconds, or what?

Shashakiro: yeah and then you have to, uh, "ascend"

Tukkun: Well, you can fight in current area for more resources to upgrade (and get some small amount of EXP from killing)

Shashakiro: or whatever

Tukkun: and yes, there's an "ascend" system of some sort

Tukkun: where you can get back to area 1

Liquidplays: These upgrades will only affect in this new area?

Tukkun: but until you beat your old highscore, your rewards are reduced

Tukkun: so you can't just "ascend" repeatedly to gain rewards from clearing the first few areas

Tukkun: Either that, or there will be some sort of "delay" before you can ascend again

Tukkun: For example, you can only "ascend" once every 24 hours

Tukkun: so during this time you'll be motivated to go as far as possible

Toa_of_Pi: will it have an end (or at least end of real benefit, like rebirths up to 100), or just go on forever?

Axiss32: So it's something for give you a motivation to progress in further areas for EXP, rather than spamming low-level areas, right^

Shashakiro: make it end make everything end

Tukkun: It will likely give an item - I'm thinking pendant - which gets stronger as you progress

Tukkun: and that's to be decided, I suppose

Shashakiro: by which I mean not end but like just be not really possible to get further than a certain point

Shashakiro: or end if you want

Toa_of_Pi: I vote not endless

Tukkun: Also the area will have three difficulty modes

Tukkun: Well, Toa, it's prone to be limited at some point

Tukkun: because my huge number library can only handle numbers up to 10^1008 anyway

Shashakiro: hah

Tukkun: so I will aim for it to "end" at a point where monsters have around 10^950 HP, to avoid problems

Toa_of_Pi: well, I mean a concrete limit, rather than just 'well, theres a level that exists, but only theoretically because you can't get to it because you'll never be strong enough'

Tukkun: A "concrete limit" likely won't exist

Toa_of_Pi: kinda like in ED where after level 200, there is literally nothing else

Tukkun: but that's to be decided, I guess

Tukkun: Or it will be like ED, where there will be such a limit at first, but it will be raised over time

Tukkun: to feel like there's "new content"

Toa_of_Pi: I just personally like having concrete goals to aim for, as opposed to 'Do this forever until you get bored'

Parsee: ^

Axiss32: Can monsters in this new area drop the same items as regular monsters, such as materials?

mmKALLL: Hey folks

Shashakiro: I'm going to hazard a guess that they won't exactly be new monsters???

Toa_of_Pi: and for the most part, this game has been great at that. get 500 IAs, 500 ultras, fishing skill 50, all fcg cards, etc

Tukkun: There will be "concrete goals" to aim for though

Shashakiro: the magic number 500 must not be upset

Tukkun: Although the thing continues on after the final reward (much like getting 1,000,000 BP), there's little to no reason for it

Parsee: When did you come back, Shashakiro? Or were you hiding in another room?

Tukkun: Um... I'm losing Internet connection

Shashakiro: I never left; hiding in room "the game tab"

Tlihuatl: no boss for the AI hero clone army to kill? I'll have to kill CHAOS.

Tukkun: Axiss, yes, it is treated like regular areas and you can get usual loot drops

Calvingrnwld: yeah it needs new IA's then

Toa_of_Pi: unless it just uses the same ones that already exist, like the graveyard does

Tukkun: I'll be reusing monsters in existing areas

mmKALLL: I'd just like to say that this game is pretty awesome now that corruption doesn't throw you back into the Pub - been playing since Did You Know and the Bonus Bar were things and this game still has a certain charm in it.

Shashakiro: which actually reminds me, can there just exist somewhere or other an in-game way to access the Big List of Save Variables for tech light purposes

Shashakiro: like put it in SSF or something but the way it is now you literally have to beg someone who ripped the game code to tell you what a variable name is

Tukkun: It's impossible to generate such a list

Shashakiro: ah

Tukkun: Also, to prevent the new areas from rendering current ones useless, there will be some limitations

Tukkun: Like, you will have to use some items (I'm planning CoR / CoUR) to "buy" time in these areas

mmKALLL: I'm just wondering about what it's like to still develop a game after five-six years of awesome?

Shashakiro: (seconding approval of corruption change)

Tukkun: There will be a "free mode" too, aimed mostly towards new players who have played for just a few minutes, and with low rewards

Anonymity: higher CoR/UR cap plz

Tukkun: mmKALLL, I do get bored at times

Tukkun: The only thing that really motivates me to continue, is that people are still playing

Tukkun: The number of players has dropped drastically, too - but I guess that's to be expected

Shashakiro: it has probably been suggested 9,999,999,999,999 times but I will put my vote behind the YC cap being raised to that number

Toa_of_Pi: kinda reminds me of the time machine back in pre-explosion

Toa_of_Pi: where you had to get a bunch of pieces in order to go to the special area

mmKALLL: Still, it kind of amazes me how dedicated some people are and have been towards AI: TG.

Tukkun: An YC cap increase will likely lead to other broken things

Tukkun: and just inflation in general

Tukkun: Is it still extremely easy to reach YC cap after the recent nerfs to YC gain in Battle Arena?

mmKALLL: As if the coins aren't inflated enough already.

Shashakiro: absurdly

Shashakiro: for me

Toa_of_Pi: most of my yc come from the garden anyway

Axiss32: Not as fast as pre-1724, but still pretty fast for me

Tukkun: So Garden is the primary source?

Axiss32: By far.

Shashakiro: 15T today so far, it's 9:15 AM

Toa_of_Pi: although that may be because I dont use BA that much these days, so I should probably be ignored in this statistic

Toa_of_Pi: also, today is garden day, so that's going to throw things off

Shashakiro: I have not been purposefully grinding YC

Tukkun: I suppose that mostly comes from AAG?

Parsee: 45 minutes.

Parsee: I cap a couple times a day, due to 2b harvests from 25s.

Axiss32: Other gardens also give good amount, especially if affected by HV mod

Shashakiro: yeah the three are about equal for me

Tukkun: Noted.

Axiss32: WTF, dayskipped and no Shiny mods

Tukkun: So we can instead reduce gains from the Garden, and also item prices

Axiss32: Sounds nice.

Tukkun: which will likely resolve the "too easy to reach cap" issue

Shashakiro: sure

Shashakiro: so, what's this quest/achievement revamp plan

Tukkun: So... well, should I move to the achievement/quest revamp

Tukkun: or do people still want to hear about the "incremental" thing

mmKALLL: I miss the days then Impossible ascensions were actually hard and not just "longer hard ascensions" - perhaps material for a challenge?

mmKALLL: when'

Tukkun: Probably not a very fun challenge

Shashakiro: 'tis the nature of power creep, mmK

mmKALLL: Probably less fun than speedruns, sure

Toa_of_Pi: speaking of, challenge 6?

Liquidplays: Still want to see "Ascend without leaving Ye Olde Pub" challenge

Tukkun: You can't ascend in Challenge Mode :(

Liquidplays: shoot :<

Toa_of_Pi: bang

Axiss32: The Challenge suggestion system was removed because too many shit appeared to the thread, right?

Shashakiro: i'm guessing it's more just tukkun not actually wanting to spend a lot of time implementing new ones

mmKALLL: It's difficult to design interesting challenges without considering if it would be fun to play them yourself

Tukkun: So... well, achievement/quest revamp?

Axiss32: Yep!

levak2: yes

Shashakiro: yes yes

mmKALLL: sure

Shashakiro: by which I mean, yes I want to hear

Liquidplays: ya

TheJoseph666: hi Tukkun

TheJoseph666: hi everyone

Tukkun: I originally wanted to revamp quests to this... map-like thing

mmKALLL: Hello

Axiss32: Tired to see 630 Achieves and the almost entirely gold Quest page

Anonymity: not sure if want. working on last few quests

levak2: that 100% quest is boring

Axiss32: I should work on just one to be fine.

mmKALLL: Things were better when achievements were rupees and the bonus bar gave 2600% progress

Axiss32: I'm at 119 S-Ranks. Another one and it would gift me the 121st

Tukkun: Brb, uploading screenshot

levak2: I have all 125 S-ranks, more quests please

Axiss32: mmK, it was good where Achievements were challenging :P

TheJoseph666: When is the House coming out? Kappa

Tukkun: http://i.imgur.com/IUFOA8G.png

Tukkun: Don't mind the confusing interface, that's because it's the editor

Parsee: SOON(tm)

Tukkun: While the system certainly seemed interesting, I decided it was probably too confusing for newbies

mmKALLL: Soon™

Shashakiro: yeah i'd call that needlessly complex

Tukkun: so I think I'm going to make a simpler system

Anonymity: wow. confusing.

CuHyC: Ben Brode is leaking.

Tukkun: which is like random quests, but you pick which one to do

Tukkun: Like, you pick the quest "Kill 100 monsters"

Tukkun: Then you go kill 100 monsters and reap your rewards, that's it

Axiss32: I'm getting the idea of restarting to scratch :P

mmKALLL: Oh wow, that looks all kinds of awesome

mmKALLL: ...Complex, but awesome.

Shashakiro: I'm not sure I like that idea much tukkun

Tukkun: The primary difference from the current system, is that you can only work on one quest at a time, and your progress only starts counting once you accept the quest.

mmKALLL: Perhaps if a complex feature like this was implemented, it could be for only the ascended players? That would also set a lower bound on how strong the players are expected to be in the BA.

Axiss32: Can you change quest even if you didn't complete the current one^

Shashakiro: the random quests system is great imo

Tukkun: Axiss - yes, but your progress on current quest will be lost

stwilliams: At r77 Level 246...is Mastery or Power ring more effective?

Tukkun: The quests will also have "dialogues" (and possibly some storyline) of some sort

Anonymity: >main quest one by one

Axiss32: Oh awesome

Tukkun: Some quests must be done in specific orders

CuHyC: It would obviously not the same numbers as main quest.

Axiss32: So it's sorta like we need to start from Quest 1, instead of from the last ones

Anonymity: >do pong, get S rank score, useless because is on rank A quest

Shashakiro: that sounds ok but you shouldn't remove the current content I think? or like fold it all into "achievements"

Tukkun: Basically, like this "quest map" system, but represented differently

Axiss32: Are there quests like "Get Plot #75 on Garden" or "Get to FCG level xxx"?

mmKALLL: It kind of reminds me of the labyrinth system of Dissidia, which was cool; the not-cool part is when I think of main quests and having to focus on only one at a time.

Toa_of_Pi: so if my SC happens to get a really nice pong score (ha, as if), while I was working on a fishing quest, I'm out of luck?

Tukkun: Well, that's for the new QUEST system

Tukkun: The thing that's similar to our current quest system, will be moved to achievements

Shashakiro: yeah that's good

mmKALLL: I see, that makes sense

Tukkun: Rather than the current 630 achievements, we will have 190 achievements, each one with 7 ranks of increasing difficulty

Shashakiro: since they are basically the same thing

Shashakiro: just different scales

Axiss32: Yep

Tukkun: because - well, you know, achievements and quests are currently to similar

Axiss32: Quests are just a hard version of Achievements

mmKALLL: The thing I liked about achievements is that they all had interesting names

Tukkun: I want to make it so achievements are actual achievements, and quests are things you do in a specific order to learn about stuff in the game, rather than a harder variant of achievements system.

Toa_of_Pi: interesting

Shashakiro: yeah okay that sounds good

mmKALLL: The achievements should still offer things to do after +50 or +100, though?

Tukkun: So the newer achievements will have difficulty that is similar to current quests (a little harder)

Shashakiro: so the new quests won't be random then?

Tukkun: but quests will instead focus on allowing you to learn about different aspects of the game

Axiss32: I hope it too, mm

Tukkun: but there will also be difficult quests that provide challenges for players

Axiss32: I got the last one on about +15

Toa_of_Pi: 'become phantomwolf13'

mmKALLL: Hopefully not difficult as in "clear the defend mission 50 times"

Axiss32: "Get better than Omesh in xxx"

Tukkun: And quests will no longer have ranks (C, B, A, S) like now

TheJoseph666: "Defeat 500 ULTRA-3 monsters" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Tukkun: You complete a quest, and that's it

Liquidplays: "Git gud"

Tukkun: Some quests can be repeated with lower rewards

TheJoseph666: 500 unique ULTRA-3 monsters*

stwilliams: It's cool, I figured it out. Lost my rings and got Mastery again, so I'll probably just use that one.

nanohum: What awards for the QUESTS?

Shashakiro: aren't there not even that many? lol

Shashakiro: lots don't have ULTRA forms I thought

Tukkun: I think there are 419 ULTRA monsters

Liquidplays: stwilliams use mastery potion and power ring

TheJoseph666: oh yeah, some don't have ultra form

TheJoseph666: derp

Axiss32: 419, right

Tukkun: Well, "endurance" quests like "Clear Defend Mission 50 times" will probably exist

Axiss32: No plz no ):

Tukkun: but I aim towards things that can be completed in 1 day or less

TheJoseph666: "Defeat 419 unique ULTRA-3 monsters" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Kappa

Anonymity: oh noes...

stwilliams: Thanks Liq

Toa_of_Pi: 50 times in a day isn't impossible

Axiss32: "Die 666 times"

stwilliams: I don't think I can use mastery potion though.

Tukkun: because you can only work on one at a time, making it so you have to spend too much time on a quest is probably not a good design decision

Toa_of_Pi: thats, what, <10 hours or so?

stwilliams: It's the Blast to the Past challenge.

stwilliams: I've already committed...it's too late to walk away now.

Shashakiro: but wait. are you keeping random quests too? because you should

Tukkun: Yes, random quests will be kept

Tukkun: Only main quests will be revamped

Shashakiro: good. they're good

Axiss32: Tukkun, is the supposed to give me 100 extra random WC whenever I start an ascension?

Axiss32: *the game

mmKALLL: Yeah, I'd agree on incremental challenge being much better than "endurance" kind of things

stwilliams: Since this is the "What's new, Tukkun?" room, are there going to be new challenges coming out? Looks like it stopped in March.

Tukkun: So basically - old achievements gone, current quests are adjusted to become new achievements, and main quests become actual quests

Shashakiro: what happens with old "secret acheivements"

Tukkun: There are currently no plans for new challenges, but more may be coming in the future

Liquidplays: How about daily quests?

Shashakiro: are you going to have 7 tiers of oh shit you divided by zero in math master

Tukkun: I will keep 7 secret achievements only

stwilliams: Do all the buffs from the achievements disappear?

stwilliams: Sorry, might have answered that already.

Toa_of_Pi: and time to have SC do Pong for the next 14 hours. yay...

levak2: Any new things to spend quest/event tokens on? I have ton of them

Axiss32: Nice, +1 max capacity

Shashakiro: presumably the progress bar reward multiplier will be altered to fit the new system

Shashakiro: probably the overall cap won't change

Tukkun: I plan to get rid of QT/ET

Axiss32: If I remember right, we will now have 1k% Multiplier

Tukkun: and change to a different system of quest rewards

mmKALLL: The secret achievements were very interesting on my first playthough, though.

stwilliams: Are you ever going to stop updating Anti-Idle?

Anonymity: i hoarded 2m QTs :(

Axiss32: Wait, and Special Shop?

Liquidplays: ^

Tukkun: Yes

mmKALLL: People starting in 2016 won't know about the deal with the rope etc :(

Tukkun: Unspent QT/ET will be converted to things in the new system

Tukkun: but quite a lot of things will change

TheJoseph666: better spend all QT and ET before the new system ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Shashakiro: i remember when people did that with career exp when tukkun added 101-200

Shashakiro: they all regretted their decision

TheJoseph666: why? what did they spend it on?

Toa_of_Pi: hoard all the things!

Shashakiro: you could get things

Shashakiro: like...some energy refills

Shashakiro: by spending excess career exp

Axiss32: What I've lost? (lost connection)

Anonymity: your life

Shashakiro: people basically thought it would be really quick and easy to get all the careers to 200 like they would do it a couple days after it was added no big deal

Shashakiro: that was of course not what happened

TheJoseph666: heh

TheJoseph666: get rekt

Axiss32: 200 careers actually take a while.

Tukkun: Hmm, so any other opinions or concerns regarding the revamped achievement/quest system?

Toa_of_Pi: I'm only up to 200 on 4 of them

Tukkun: I think I'll work on that next because people seem interested

Tukkun: and it's relatively easy to implement

TheJoseph666: yes pls

Shashakiro: yeah no you alleviated most of my concerns

mmKALLL: Relatively easy to implement? How come?

Toa_of_Pi: any idea of an ETA on that one, just as an extremely rough estimate?

CuHyC: Is there any reward for maxing quests/achievements right now?

Tukkun: Probably 1 day if I actually work on it

Shashakiro: psst, tukkun, pad

TheJoseph666: lel

Shashakiro: paaaaaad

Tukkun: but obviously that's not going to happen

Axiss32: Nice

Shashakiro: months

Shashakiro: years!

CuHyC: Or I can keep ignoring DM forever?

Axiss32: ):

TheJoseph666: Soon(tm)

Toa_of_Pi: well, I doubt I'm going to be able to blast through 17 rb in a day. oh well

Tukkun: The "internship" thing consumed all of my free time

TheJoseph666: yeah, I still have 628 achievements

TheJoseph666: both include Defend Mission

Toa_of_Pi: I guess I'll have to be happy with 123/125

TheJoseph666: that is, I still have 2 achievements left

mmKALLL: Yeah, it's pretty hard to work on games when you already work all day.

Laze: I think it is literally impossible for me to go from 81% Quest completesion to 100% in a even a week...

Tukkun: I guess this is what's going to happen when I go to work in the future too

Shashakiro: hey you said you'd get us a nice reward of some kind based on how much MQ completion

Tukkun: but the money I get from making games alone doesn't seem to be sufficient for making a living

mmKALLL: Speaking of which, how is your impression about Tukkun Hours? Is this something you'll keep doing for a while, or is there something we as a community could do to make this more productive?

Shashakiro: live in his time zone

Shashakiro: though I think he said something like having fewer people is good in a way

Shashakiro: since he's also working on the game during this time

mmKALLL: Making money is a rough road, no matter what you sell.

stwilliams: Or do.

mmKALLL: I could recommend reading the $100 startup and four hour workweek, though; they might give ideas on how to make independent game development viable as a professional path.

stwilliams: Throw kids in the mix, and I can't imagine making games.

stwilliams: My brother does it though...so I don't know much about making games.

Tukkun: Yeah I have a LIFE outside of all this

stwilliams: Yeah, but we don't, you see.

stwilliams: So we need you not to.

Tukkun: Ah, well

Laze: Back from work.. Boooyah. $$$ made

TheJoseph666: in that picture of the new quests you posted, I noticed some of them were circles and some squares, what is the difference? (if there is any)

Tukkun: Also isn't it kinda interesting how there's no reaction when I said I plan to make the house

Shashakiro: no see tukkun is really good at efficiently getting the game to keep you in

stwilliams: I'm super excited about the house.

Laze: HOUSE!? WHEN!? WHERE!?

Axiss32: ^

stwilliams: I can't tell you how many times I cry about it in room 2, where I usually am stuck.

Shashakiro: he just has to pick a big number like "1000" for number of ascensions to max the perk tree

Anonymity: Soon™, here

Toa_of_Pi: house? eh...

mmKALLL: I didn't see any such plan, I just noticed the forum post and came halfway in.

Shashakiro: and that doesn't even take that long

Shashakiro: to pick

Toa_of_Pi: quest revamp? ooh

levak2: I don't care about house, didn't like it even pre-explosion

Tukkun: Oops

Tukkun: Forgot to edit the forum thread title

Tukkun: Way to go, myself

Axiss32: Maybe if it's more awesome

stwilliams: I played this a long time ago, closer to when it came out. Then it said, "House, coming soon"

Toa_of_Pi: at this point the house has been in development for so long, everyone's expectations are either sky high or non existant

stwilliams: I come back like 3 or 4 years later, and it came and went.

stwilliams: I REALLY want to see the house.

mmKALLL: Way to go

stwilliams: Not close...but you know.

mmKALLL: :P

Shashakiro: also tukkun what's the feature under typing

Tukkun: It never came and went :P

Toa_of_Pi: it wasn't that special back in pre-explosion. I really dont see why people want it so much

Shashakiro: or is it just another black triangle

Tukkun: It's there to confuse people like you

Shashakiro: the second one then

Laze: I wonder where my character has been sleeping without his house...

Tukkun: and to make it feel like the game is being updated?

stwilliams: Well done. You've succeeded in not only that, but incredible let down.

Tukkun: I suppose :P

Shashakiro: well let's be fair he did literally just tell us like all his plans for new features

Shashakiro: and none of them are going under typing

Tukkun: So in the near future I'll be working on achievement/quest revamp mostly

stwilliams: lol

Tukkun: and then I'll get to working on the house

Axiss32: Simply they don't appear under Typing

stwilliams: Typing is awesome.

stwilliams: I'm in the top 30 for typing.

Tukkun: Do people want the house as it was in 2009, or completely renewed?

mmKALLL: I'm not so interested in the house as I'm interested in the invisible factory or whatever it was.

Shashakiro: isn't that just cyborg

TheJoseph666: yeah, the invisible factory

Axiss32: Renewed would be awesome

mmKALLL: House was cool, but... Idling in BA was just better. I got all the gold trophies back in the day anyway and there wasn't much to do after that

Calvingrnwld: make a second cyborg :D

stwilliams: This new quest system sounds pretty cool. Whichever one you can make happen quickest, I'd say.

stwilliams: Can we get a Cyborg that trains my current cyborg? He's not all that.

Tukkun: Some people I asked seem to want the house as it was in 2009, due to all the "nostalgia" and stuff

stwilliams: Really isn't pulling his weight in DM.

Shashakiro: I wasn't playing then

Axiss32: Any plans on revamping Dragon, or at least makiing him up to date?

mmKALLL: I think this is important: the house doesn't provide lasting entertainment or incentive to use it, kinda like the Stadium.

Tukkun: Axiss, yes

Calvingrnwld: The stadium is fun tho..

Shashakiro: I think the house should just be like

Tukkun: says the person who has completed 100,000 simple races

Shashakiro: this really really completely absurd resource sink

Tukkun: (or is it 1,000,000?)

mmKALLL: Nostalgia is pretty big, but personally I feel like it's been such a long time since the EXPlosion and Awesome Update that I'm used to not having it.

Tukkun: I suppose

Axiss32: I believe 99% from this number come from Cybro

Tukkun: So I will completely renew the house, AND parodize some of the 2009 items in it

mmKALLL: :O

Tukkun: so it still has nostalgia but it's completely new

mmKALLL: Now THAT'S something!

mmKALLL: :D

stwilliams: That's what I'm talking about, right there.

Liquidplays: 134k

Axiss32: Fate rekted

Liquidplays: Simple races :v

mmKALLL: Tukkun's genius in game design never ceases to amaze me.

Axiss32: 7,679 FCG 7 wins :D

Toa_of_Pi: would it be mainly just cosmetic stuff, or would you bring back the outfit set bonuses?

Shashakiro: like idk you can buy a stove for 66,666 white coins and a refrigerator for 666,666 white coins plus 1,000,000 unobtainium and also 231 impossible perk points

Toa_of_Pi: I'm assuming the pet system would just return to the way it was, because thats changed quite a bit

mmKALLL: Speaking of simple races, do ones played by the cyborg also get in the high scores?

stwilliams: That sounds really useless to someone who has less than a million ascensions.

mmKALLL: Same with fish catches etc

TheJoseph666: yes

Axiss32: Maybe Pet gets double Mana if he stays in the House

Shashakiro: but see the trick is the refrigerator doesn't even do anything

Anonymity: overfeed my pet then throw him high

Shashakiro: it just sits there and now you have it

stwilliams: lol

TheJoseph666: everything Cyborg does counts towards leaderboards (except for Arcade I think)

lukasbryant: Well this is weird. I've lost my daily streak 2 days in a row somehow

stwilliams: And it doesn't even look like a refridgerator. It's just a brown box.

Laze: make pet mana cap upgradable, and a way for it to generate mana when idling?

lukasbryant: Yesterday I got the daily streak thing in the special shop

Anonymity: barf coming from sky.

lukasbryant: But I still have no streak today

Tukkun: Haha

Tukkun: I'm probably going to make a refrigerator weapon in the Battle Arena

stwilliams: lol

Toa_of_Pi: that sounds cool

Shashakiro: you should definitely make it cost exactly the thing I just said

Axiss32: Go, ericlala's showel!

mmKALLL: Make a toaster to accompany it

Shashakiro: then I will know I made an impact

mmKALLL: "The kitchen strikes back" -set

Tukkun: No, but it will look like a brown box

stwilliams: Yes!

Axiss32: "Bacon feels delicious. Roba has 10% chance to not burn it"

stwilliams: I need my name attached to that somewhere.

mmKALLL: Refrigerator: +10% coolness

NerevarineLoL: is your refrigerator running?

Shashakiro: oh and it comes with ice element

Tukkun: lol

Shashakiro: obviously

Axiss32: Nah, Thunder element because uses electricity

Liquidplays: Yes, Nerev

stwilliams: Or Boss Damage, cause you're a stone cold killer.

TheJoseph666: but ice element is more logical

Tukkun: Nah, screw that, it's fire element

stwilliams: Wait, it can have both!

Tukkun: because it's hot

Axiss32: :P

Liquidplays: lol

TheJoseph666: Kappa

Shashakiro: there we go

Shashakiro: tukkun nails it again

NerevarineLoL: "damn, that fridge is hot af"

Toa_of_Pi: or dark element, because the light is off unless you open the door

Liquidplays: ^

Tukkun: lol

NerevarineLoL: noob, the light stays on when you close it

stwilliams: It is going to have all elements attached to it.

Grillo126: Hey Tukkun, is there another collector's pendant loot changes beside the doubling of max bonus stats ?

mmKALLL: Wind element because idk

stwilliams: It's the all-consuming elemental.

Toa_of_Pi: well, 'all elements' is a weapon bonus

Axiss32: Water element because it somewhat bleeds whater when broken

mmKALLL: Refrigerator as a weapon, microwave oven as a hat?

stwilliams: Toaster gloves?

stwilliams: Dishwasher armor...

Axiss32: I'd like a TV Shirt and a PS4 Pants

NerevarineLoL: dont need pants

Liquidplays: Washing machines as shoes

Tukkun: Well, there's a fan inside the refrigerator

Tukkun: so yes, wind element

NerevarineLoL: pants are for the weak

stwilliams: Now he's adding equipment sets from different rooms?

mmKALLL: Of course, to go with the style of costing 66666 WC and not doing anything, the set should be outfit items costing CM cap.

Axiss32: CM cannot cost cap, I think.

TheJoseph666: bruh, my flash crashed after I pressed the stat button in BA, wth m9

NerevarineLoL: how about evolving weapons, tukken?

poppoperpop: If I get a whole batch of insta-progress, do my epic skills have a chance of triggering for all of them?

Axiss32: RIP Stat button

Tukkun: They're somewhat difficult to implement

mmKALLL: yes

Tukkun: The two pairs of evolving gloves gave me a headache

Shashakiro: oh god haha I remember some horrible bug

Shashakiro: like they wouldn't evolve properly if you did something

Axiss32: What bug?

NerevarineLoL: was thinking more like "x kills to evolve to next stage"

Toa_of_Pi: a ladybug

Shashakiro: with the CHAOS GLOVES

mmKALLL: ...At any rate, this discussion escalated quickly. Have a nice day.

Axiss32: It would maybe be like "X kills for +1 Attack"

NerevarineLoL: like, anti-boss gun - kill 100 bosses; then 10k; then 1m - and it obviously gets more powerful with each stage

Liquidplays: "Look! Your gloves are evolving"

TheJoseph666: lel

NerevarineLoL: basically, something else than XP requirement to evolve, as compared to the gloves, as well as more stages

NerevarineLoL: tho I guess balancing them would be even more annoying

Tukkun: Well, yeah

Shashakiro: oh hey I'm reminded of one oddity

Shashakiro: which is that the top prizes on both explosion and gambler's boxes are pretty awful

Toa_of_Pi: press b to cancel glove evolution

Axiss32: Gambler's one is great with GoGL

Axiss32: Awful then

TheLinkToThePast: Oh right, I forgot tukkun hours were a thing

Shashakiro: oh does FLC actually do something now

Tukkun: Shashakiro, there are plans to "resolve" this problem with the new enhancement system

Shashakiro: ok.

TheLinkToThePast: Well, with a GoGL @shash

Axiss32: 500% Drop Rate bonus with GoGL

Toa_of_Pi: you're bringing enhanception back?

Shashakiro: ah

Anonymity: no plz

Tukkun: No, I plan to simplify enhancement

Tukkun: by allowing you to use a single type of "points" for all different sorts of enhancements

NerevarineLoL: http://i.imgur.com/BJfunAL.png

Tukkun: It will also be merged with the bonus machine

TheLinkToThePast: Ooh!

Tukkun: You will use these "points" to change bonuses too

NerevarineLoL: gamebreaking bug :/

TheJoseph666: oh, you wanted to do this before

TheJoseph666: with ULTRA armor

NerevarineLoL: (i'm 90% zoomed out)

stwilliams: You know what. This is stupid. I will not complete this Blast to the Past any further.

mmKALLL: Enhancements have received complaints? Is this feature more important than the new quest system?

stwilliams: 18 hours and I'm 251.

stwilliams: It's absurd.

Axiss32: But ULTRA ARMOR is not a thing anymore.

Toa_of_Pi: leveling took a long time back in the day

stwilliams: I see this.

TheLinkToThePast: Now I'm going to guess it's weighted by enhancement type, like attack is worth far more than HP regen or something?

TheJoseph666: no, but Tukkun talked about new enhancement system when he wanted to add ULTRA ARMOR

TheLinkToThePast: @st Welcome to old school.

Shashakiro: my first ascension took 70 or so days and that was like really pretty damn fast

Toa_of_Pi: I remember back when people were wondering if it was possible to idle in TL

NerevarineLoL: Axiss32: http://i.imgur.com/wMyGTSO.png actually it is

Toa_of_Pi: my first ascension took me 132 days

stwilliams: I assume I need to do the Pacifist challenge to get the pacifist secret achievement that will be outdated eventually.

TheJoseph666: wait... wth?

TheLinkToThePast: No.

Anonymity: whatr

TheLinkToThePast: None of the achievements require anything from challenge mode.

Axiss32: ?

Axiss32: *^

Toa_of_Pi: you actually cant earn the pacifist achievement in the pacifist challenge

stwilliams: Bollacks. I still want to complete one and see the skin and medal.

Toa_of_Pi: DM is too violent

TheLinkToThePast: The skin varies between each challenge, the creator of the challenge got to design the skin.

Anonymity: DM should be R-rated

mmKALLL: Impossible quest: Sell 40 gems with 3000 profit or higher

mmKALLL: really?

stwilliams: Pretty possible.

TheLinkToThePast: Ah, quest generation...

TheLinkToThePast: I'm also pretty sure I accidentally fished all night. Whoops.

Shashakiro: the label is there to make you feel better when it's actually one you aren't going to be doing

TheLinkToThePast: Speaking of challenges, there's still one I saw in the thread that I hope never gets added

TheLinkToThePast: Well, other than most of them

Shashakiro: oh now i'm reminded of another thing which I think hasn't been changed in a long time

Toa_of_Pi: you mean most of them?

Axiss32: What challenge, Link?

TheLinkToThePast: Then one where you only got to use Simple Race to get to 9001

TheLinkToThePast: Or was it 9000?

Axiss32: wut

Axiss32: It's a bull***t.

mmKALLL: Sounds challenging

Shashakiro: the daily prize BC thing in arcade feels really really really really small

Omesh: Hi all

TheLinkToThePast: @shash It caps out at like 15000

Axiss32: Pacifist was already long with Simple Race

Shashakiro: yeah that's tiny.

Toa_of_Pi: that still sounds better than one that was something like 'get all gold medals in ranked mode'

mmKALLL: Oh yeah, the BC price is tiny at mid-lategame.

mmKALLL: prize*

TheLinkToThePast: @axiss Why do you think he stopped caring about it? For now, anyway

Axiss32: Because no good challenges got posted

TheLinkToThePast: @Toa Maybe it's just your arcade phobia, but I'd rather do that one

TheLinkToThePast: Because at least you can practice :\

Tukkun: I'll probably change the Career to give 5x BC reward rather than the current 1.5x

Tukkun: so early game isn't affected but later on you can get 50k BC per day

Toa_of_Pi: I can practice too, but it did me no good •p

mmKALLL: Perhaps it would be interesting to get gold medal in all arcade games, but not necessarily the same day.

Shashakiro: yeah that's good

Tukkun: which is still tiny, but whatever

Shashakiro: I mean you can cyborg it so it's fine

TheLinkToThePast: Maybe it'll be big enough for people to stop complaining about it? I don't know

Toa_of_Pi: cyborg doesnt count as ranked

Shashakiro: i'm talking about the daily bonus reward not silly challenge ideas

Axiss32: Nice idea, 50k free BC

mmKALLL: Nobody has level 100 career in the early game anyway, or if they do, they deserve the prize.

TheLinkToThePast: Well, for those that are half-decent enough at arcade or care to get Cyborg up to a consistent level

levak2: 50k BC for 1 game of each arcade by cyborg

Shashakiro: yeah i probably wouldn't do it most days

TheLinkToThePast: And I, do not. :D

Shashakiro: but at least if I did I would bother to go over to the arcade screen and click on the button

mmKALLL: Using the cyborg is still too anti-idle for me xD

Shashakiro: if it was 50k

Toa_of_Pi: how so? cyborg is rediculously idle

TheJoseph666: my cyborg is not good enough to get all golds for me :/

mmKALLL: Yeah, and you have to click buttons every two minutes

Toa_of_Pi: I just told mine to do 17 hours of pong, and I dont need to touch it at all during that time

TheLinkToThePast: The best and easiest way to get CP: Go idlefish

Axiss32: Mine occasionally has trouble in MS

TheLinkToThePast: I've been telling it to do pong

TheTyfoon: did it listen?

TheLinkToThePast: no

NerevarineLoL: Omesh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYL4qQvv2EY RIP :/

TheTyfoon: shame

TheLinkToThePast: It saw that I had an item fight quest to do so it did that instead

Toa_of_Pi: I'm just waiting for mine to revolt because of all the arcade I've been making it do

Toa_of_Pi: 18 1/2 days of MM...

stwilliams: Well. No death didn't work out, but Pacifist did. Thanks.

TheLinkToThePast: "What? Simulation Cyborg is evolving! Congratulations, your Simulation Cyborg evolved into Arcadebot!"

NerevarineLoL: Toa_of_Pi: took me 28k runs for S-rank in MM

TheLinkToThePast: That might be interesting, actually maybe

Toa_of_Pi: I guess I should feel lucky that mine took almost exactly 20k

Axiss32: I'd like getting to Cybro lvl 170, maybe 175 and almost FCG level cap for farm FCG 8 :P

NerevarineLoL: I started at 1.35m

Toa_of_Pi: cant remember what mine started at

NerevarineLoL: so, took a while

mmKALLL: MM?

TheLinkToThePast: math master

Tukkun: Hmm

mmKALLL: oh yeah

Tukkun: If I actually work on the new contents

TheLinkToThePast: AKA Fun Times, the game. Ironically this is AFTER Tukkun made it easier

Axiss32: yep

Toa_of_Pi: all I know is that my pong started at around 676k, and is up to 2,169,800 so far

Tukkun: I will probably be able to release the new achievement/quest systems some time around the end of this month

Axiss32: I remember I got my Arcade S-Rank all by being good.

Omesh: Nerev, got killed by cancer. Too soon http://i.imgur.com/7AVA3vR.png

TheLinkToThePast: I take it more realistically it'll have to wait until november? Because of your cramped schedule, I mean

Axiss32: With how much botOp, Toa?

Anonymity: cant read that dont 1/5

Tukkun: Yeah, probably

Anonymity: *font

Toa_of_Pi: on pong? 450

NerevarineLoL: its TES runes

mmKALLL: Math total score 35M, high score just under 1M

Axiss32: I have like...70 botOp?

Toa_of_Pi: 113 queued up

mmKALLL: New content within this month sounds pretty good though

Axiss32: I should try again for 5m+ score

mmKALLL: Can't wait!

NerevarineLoL: though honestly, Omesh, not to be a dick or anything, but I thought he was already dead or something

mmKALLL: Even if it's this month™

Toa_of_Pi: my pong total score is a bit over 1b

TheLinkToThePast: But yeah. I actually don't have any desire to be up right now, so after I take a kid to school I'm going to go back to sleep

Tukkun: Or should I focus on making the house first

Anonymity: soon™ probably™

Tukkun: which likely won't take long either

Shashakiro: nah do quests.

TheLinkToThePast: @tukkun Achievement/Quest system

Axiss32: I'd bother on Achieves/Quests

Tukkun: and then I can make quest rewards that involve house items

mmKALLL: Quests, then House, then others imo

TheLinkToThePast: Well, actually.

stwilliams: Yes @ Tukkun.

Tukkun: Alright, I suppose

stwilliams: House, then quests to include house.

mmKALLL: Rewards regarding the house, huh...

stwilliams: Why do one then the other and go back to the one?

Toa_of_Pi: well, you can always add the house quests after, cant you?

Axiss32: inb4 1337 quests

stwilliams: I'm an efficiency buff.

stwilliams: In a kitchen, it's really important to consolidate your steps.

Tukkun: Axiss, probably fewer

stwilliams: Tukkun...you are the chef.

Tukkun: but there will be 190 achievements, each one having 7 ranks

mmKALLL: Start work on both, look how people build up anticipation and then announce that it's going to be released in 2017 because of your new job?

Tukkun: plus 7 more secret achievements

Tukkun: so that's 1337 in total

Anonymity: quest reward: wooden plank, hammer, nails. build the house yourself

TheLinkToThePast: You magnificent bastard.

Shashakiro: is 'ascensions' achievement going to require 1000

Axiss32: lol

Shashakiro: for max

TheLinkToThePast: @shasha It'll probably be based off Ascension Points

Axiss32: "Quest Reward: Omesh Doll"

Tukkun: Yep, 1000 for max

Shashakiro: k

Axiss32: I believe for 2-3% Prog Bar Multiplier

TheLinkToThePast: Anyway, I just realized this problem's only going to get worse very soon when DST ends.

Shashakiro: maybe there will be some really epically hard arcade ones

TheLinkToThePast: So...:D

Tukkun: What problem?

Shashakiro: or maybe you don't want to do that because it makes people salty

Tukkun: As in, you can't participate in Tukkun Hours when DST ends?

TheLinkToThePast: I typically won't be able to anyway

TheLinkToThePast: Because I don't observe DST, but most of you guys do

Anonymity: no dst there

Tukkun: Or what problem is it that you're talking about

mmKALLL: The time is a bit tricky for me as well, since it's more or less in the middle of day

TheLinkToThePast: So it'll be at 6:00 AM for me

TheLinkToThePast: If I'm interpreting things right

Tukkun: So what's your "opinion" regarding this whole thing

stwilliams: What are Tukkun hours?

Tukkun: Is it worth looking forward to?

TheJoseph666: uhg, DST is bullshit

Tukkun: I mean, the Tukkun Hours event

Tukkun: not the upcoming contents

mmKALLL: Any features are worth looking forward to, but I wouldn't mind new games either :3

TheLinkToThePast: Keep it the way it is, my opinion doesn't matter too much anyway

Shashakiro: oh yeah def.

Axiss32: Shouldn't this being to the same schedule?

Shashakiro: I played this game for years and I think this is the first time I've talked to you about it

mmKALLL: As for TH, I find this to be pretty interesting although I'm not sold on how much the channel of interaction matters (chat vs forum)

Shashakiro: in a chatroom anyway

Axiss32: I might have a suggestion: What about pushing it to 15:37 - 17:37?

Tukkun: UTC?

Tukkun: Nope, I have to sleep

Toa_of_Pi: oh god, I'm going to start confusing Tukkun Hours with Triangle Hideout...

TheLinkToThePast: XD

mmKALLL: :P

Tukkun: I can probably push it to 13:37 ~ 15:37, that's the latest I can manage

mmKALLL: Because we need more things abbreviated TH etc.

TheLinkToThePast: oh hey, I have every pet food class at at least +20% now

stwilliams: Oh my gosh. The abbreviations.

Axiss32: hehe

mmKALLL: I guess the current times are quite alright, since it's impossible to make them work for everyone...?

stwilliams: So wait...this is Tukkun hours, right now?

Shashakiro: I probably won't be awake for this very often, I only was this time because I stayed up doing homework the previous night

Tukkun: Yep

Shashakiro: yeah for like 8 more minutes.

Tukkun: Every week on Tuesday, I will spend 2 hours to dedicate entirely on the game

stwilliams: Oh, cool! Story of my life. Stumbling into great things.

Tukkun: Listening to feedback, coding, and stuff

stwilliams: You can do both?

Tukkun: Yep

levak2: do you have DST on Mars, Tukkun?

stwilliams: Sounds like we should shut up and let you work on the game.

Tukkun: Nah, it's okay, really

NerevarineLoL: I think the biggest problem is that not all the end-game people are around to give their feedback

Shashakiro: we do plenty of random ass banter

Tukkun: I do work on the game outside of Tukkun Hours

mmKALLL: At any rate, my opinion is that the achievement names were interesting back in the early versions and if I were still 14 I would look forward to not having the achievements generic like the quests are.

Shashakiro: that he can safely ignore

stwilliams: Fair enough.

Tukkun: This thing is just a "fixed schedule", like you can expect me to be working on the game during these 2 hours

stwilliams: Neat.

Tukkun: I'll make it more apparent in-game in the near future too

stwilliams: That's very thoughtful of you.

Tukkun: like a countdown timer towards the next Tukkun Hours and stuff

stwilliams: No, no. This is nice. It's like our own little secret.

Shashakiro: nah there's no reason he should only get feedback from the people who happen to be awake now

stwilliams: Can you be in more than one chat room at once?

TheJoseph666: it's not really a secret

Tukkun: Also, last week I planned to make it so you can get "points" for participating in Tukkun Hours

TheJoseph666: but k

Tukkun: But on second thoughts this is probably a bad idea

Anonymity: timezone problems

Tukkun: I mean, giving rewards for players who give valuable feedback is great and all, but the problem is that I have never done this

mmKALLL: It's even worse an idea as the attendance stamps.

TheJoseph666: yeah

stwilliams: Yeah. I will probably miss the next all of them.

Tukkun: and then there are all the timezone restrictions and stuff

Toa_of_Pi: well, you used to give RC for suggestions and bug reports

stwilliams: Attendance stamps are great.

Shashakiro: attendance stamps are a great and clever way to encourage refreshing

TheJoseph666: but back in the day, RCs were useful

Shashakiro: i salute them

Tukkun: I originally wanted to conbine this with the "donation rewards"

Tukkun: so if you can't donate, you can also provide feedback and stuff to obtain similar rewards

mmKALLL: I mean, nothing bad with attendance really, but making the game reward daily activities doesn't really feel right to me, especially now that it's so much more than just a simple number going up.

Tukkun: but I suppose these things should just remain donation-exclusive

Toa_of_Pi: I still need to toss some money in your direction. will do as soon as I get any sort of income

Axiss32: Maybe extra WC for each good feedback or bug fix?

Axiss32: (Outside of TH too)

stwilliams: Maybe we can have more than one house.

Tukkun: Also, Attendance Stamps are saving my life

stwilliams: Become a real estate agent and put it on the business list.

Shashakiro: you mean because everyone actually is updated

stwilliams: But you get them for donating.

Toa_of_Pi: I'm going to have to clear out some more storage space for all the attendance pendants…any chance of an extra page?

mmKALLL: Saving your life, how come?

stwilliams: Don't they expire?

NerevarineLoL: more martian coins, mmKALLL

Tukkun: Yup, when you play I get Martian Coins

mmKALLL: Oh, right :P

Liquidplays: how many per hour?

Tukkun: In July 2015 I only got 8,039 Martian Coins

Axiss32: So more refreshes, more $$$

mmKALLL: You must be very glad for my...

Tukkun: but in August when I added the system, I got 14,152 Martian Coins

mmKALLL: First play was 1862 days ago, number of times played 398

Tukkun: and in September this increased to 17,850

mmKALLL: That must be almost a dollar's equivalent in martian coins!

NerevarineLoL: thats a nice sum of shekels, tukken

Shashakiro: ohhhhh

Shashakiro: hahahaha

Axiss32: inb4 20k on October due to 1st day bug

Anonymity: kek

Shashakiro: that makes sense

Tukkun: lol

Tukkun: Let me check

mmKALLL: What about taking the summer holidays into account?

Tukkun: Got 1,097 Coins on October 1 alone

Shashakiro: lmfao

Shashakiro: yeah I was like 3

Shashakiro: or 4

mmKALLL: Was the system the reason for increased coins or is the increase in August a seasonal impact?=

Anonymity: how many martian coins per earth coin?

Tukkun: but on usual days I get around 800 ~ 900 too

Tukkun: It seems to be going up again ever since the attendance system was added

NerevarineLoL: Anonymity: 1 USD is 3.87 shekels

TheJoseph666: martian coins, wat?

TheJoseph666: I've been living under a rock for the last 15 mins

Fuzzbutt: You and me both.