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  1. [18:26] <Damac1214> Can we talk?
  2. [18:27] <Derpy_Hooves> eeyup
  3. [18:28] <Damac1214> I'm sorry for what I said earlier
  4. [18:28] <Damac1214> that much is clear
  5. [18:29] <Damac1214> But don't you think your being a bit unfair?
  6. [18:32] <Damac1214> I'm not talking about the ban mind you
  7. [18:32] <Damac1214> right now im just talking about the quieting
  8. [18:32] <Derpy_Hooves> i unquieted you
  9. [18:32] <Derpy_Hooves> a while ago
  10. [18:32] <Derpy_Hooves> and it's preempetive
  11. [18:33] <Derpy_Hooves> so things dont become a shitfest of talking down on other users
  12. [18:34] <Damac1214> So I can't even get a word out if it shows the chat in a negative light?
  13. [18:34] <Derpy_Hooves> considering i have to put up with it every god damned day im here
  14. [18:34] <Derpy_Hooves> i dont think so, no
  15. [18:35] <Derpy_Hooves> just like how Chat doesn't get to put IRC in a negative light
  16. [18:36] <Damac1214> Wow
  17. [18:37] <Damac1214> My only thought is why would you put it up with that?
  18. [18:37] <Derpy_Hooves> because i do
  19. [18:37] <Derpy_Hooves> if i didn't then i would have quit a long time ago
  20. [18:37] <Derpy_Hooves> luckily im one to forget and forgive quickly because i cant be bothered to bog myself down in dislike for other human beings
  21. [18:39] <Damac1214> I'm gonna be honest
  22. [18:39] <Damac1214> No sugar coating or sucking up or anything
  23. [18:40] <Damac1214> thats one of the most insightful things i've heard from a real person
  24. [18:40] <Damac1214> Well...
  25. [18:40] <Damac1214> Mostly the "i cant be bothered to bog myself down in dislike for other human beings"
  26. [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> i live with tolerance
  27. [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> people can say what they want about me, people can think what they want to think
  28. [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> i'll tolerate it
  29. [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> like that dude in chat who called me "gay" earlier because i cracked a joke at him
  30. [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> i didn't kick him
  31. [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> 50 bucks says other people would have
  32. [18:42] <Damac1214> I always like to think i'm a tolerant person, I can take criticism and what not, but I always slip up when it comes to people
  33. [18:42] <Damac1214> I find that i can't help but dislike some people
  34. [18:45] <Damac1214> One more thing though
  35. [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> i used to be bullied when i was younger
  36. [18:45] <Damac1214> Continue, i'll bring my thing up later
  37. [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> even when i was big and had a temper that would scar someone for a long time
  38. [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> i put up with it for... ever?
  39. [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> it stopped when they realised they couldn't do anything to bring harm to me
  40. [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> i made friends with them afterwards
  41. [18:46] <Damac1214> I'm kind of the same way, I got bullied throughout most of my younger years
  42. [18:47] <Damac1214> But it changed when I got to High School, I can't say exactly what it was. Maybe it was a bit of what you did, cause I learned to laugh at myself
  43. [18:47] <Damac1214> But I also learned to just go with it
  44. [18:47] <Damac1214> shits gonna happen, you need to see where it takes you
  45. [18:47] <Derpy_Hooves> bullies are like internet trolls
  46. [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> they just wanna piss you off
  47. [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> so long as you dont let them get to you
  48. [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> they bugger off
  49. [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> and you win
  50. [18:48] <Damac1214> Yeah
  51. [18:48] <Damac1214> Now I do have one more question, and like I said, its unrelated to this whole thing
  52. [18:49] <Derpy_Hooves> go on
  53. [18:49] <Damac1214> When you went through rfa's and UotM's did you experience, for lack of something better, a change in personality?
  54. [18:50] <Derpy_Hooves> i am the same person i was before i became an admin
  55. [18:50] <Derpy_Hooves> just older
  56. [18:50] <Damac1214> No, no, I mean during the voting, not before or after
  57. [18:51] <Damac1214> Like you felt more nervous or stressed in one way or another
  58. [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> not at all
  59. [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> do you know why
  60. [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> because it's just a wiki
  61. [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> and i can always try again if i need to
  62. [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> and if it didn't pass, then there would have been ample reason for it not to pass
  63. [18:52] <Damac1214> I always think that way... until I'm actually doing it
  64. [18:52] <Damac1214> and then suddenly it becomes a competition
  65. [18:52] <Damac1214> and I have to be better than everyone
  66. [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> i am not one to change my behaviour or attitude or thinking as i am being evaluated
  67. [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> as Gandhi once said, "It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence."
  68. [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> i.e. it's better to be yourself than someone you are not.
  69. [18:53] <Damac1214> Your right
  70. [18:53] <Damac1214> Thanks for talking to me, once again, I'm sorry for acting out earlier, truly. I should have thought before I did
  71. [18:53] <Damac1214> but I need to go now, Thank you again
  72. [18:53] <Derpy_Hooves> anytime, my friend, anytime
  73. [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> there will be some day when im older
  74. [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> long after my time here has passed
  75. [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> and i will miss it
  76. [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> dearly
  77. [19:02] <Derpy_Hooves> which is why in an ideal world
  78. [19:02] <Derpy_Hooves> i would not leave this site, nor the MLP wiki
  79. [19:03] <Derpy_Hooves> i had to talk with a very angry moderator on the MLP wiki yesterday and try to get him to not quit in protest of something that happened
  80. [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> it's rather sad to see someone quit a wiki just because of one thing
  81. [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent." - Gandhi
  82. [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> leaving the wiki may be good to you in the short term
  83. [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> the damage it causes for other users you've come to know does not go away
  84. [19:10] <Damac|Dinner> Thank You again, It's time for me to make a change
  85. [19:39] <Derpy_Hooves> http://mlp.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Callofduty4&diff=199569&oldid=188987 it's this sort of thing which makes it all worth it
  86. [19:40] <Damac1214> Haha yeah, thats why I think i'm still here
  87. [19:40] <Damac1214> the times when people are nice
  88. [19:46] <Derpy_Hooves> http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Damac1214/Archive1#WoW.21 you see this
  89. [19:46] <Derpy_Hooves> thats what you should care about
  90. [19:47] <Derpy_Hooves> http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Damac1214#Banned_from_Chat thi,s fuck this, and fuck the admin who banned you
  91. [19:47] <Derpy_Hooves> it doesn't matter once you apologise
  92. [19:47] <Damac1214> Lol, thanks, I think I get it now
  93. [19:47] <Damac1214> I'm not going to be what I was trying to be
  94. [19:48] <Damac1214> I'm gonna make my time here a fun one
  95. [19:48] <Derpy_Hooves> http://callofduty.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3ACallofduty4 i look at that and laugh
  96. [19:48] <Derpy_Hooves> why? not because i didn't do anything wrong, i did
  97. [19:48] <Derpy_Hooves> but, because its funny to look back and see where you fucked up
  98. [19:49] <Damac1214> And learn from it, see what you've become compared to what you were right?
  99. [19:50] <Derpy_Hooves> exactly
  100. [19:52] <Damac1214> Thank you again
  101. [19:52] <Damac1214> How many times is that now? 5 I think
  102. [19:52] <Derpy_Hooves> i need not be thanked
  103. [19:53] <Derpy_Hooves> you being happy is more than enough thanks for me
  104. [19:54] <Damac1214> And I'll keep up my end, I'm gonna try and keep myself out of trouble from now on
  105. [19:54] <Damac1214> cut down on what you have to deal with
  106. [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> another reason why i put up with it is because im too soft and nice to warn people
  107. [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> once, i had to ban some guy for sockpuppeting
  108. [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> uhh, forgot the name
  109. [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> Fr33flya i think
  110. [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> he came on the MLP wiki asking to be unbanned and that he was sorry
  111. [19:56] <Derpy_Hooves> you dont know how bad i felt
  112. [19:56] <Derpy_Hooves> i said i was sorry like 5 times to him :S
  113. [19:56] <Damac1214> I actually know exactly what your talking about, I hate upsetting people
  114. [19:57] <Damac1214> Like in my early days on IRC when Reznov was a bit of a problem, he got angry at me for something I said, i forget what, and got kicked for it
  115. [19:58] <Damac1214> I said I felt bad for making him upset
  116. [19:58] <Damac1214> You told me not too, but I still felt bad
  117. [19:58] <Damac1214> Its stuff like that that really gets me
  118. [19:58] <Damac1214> And Its why I felt awful when AS360 deleted his page
  119. [20:08] <Derpy_Hooves> yeah
  120. [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> im sorry i had to resort to kicking you out of the chat
  121. [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> you may think that being an admin, it's fun to ban people
  122. [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> it's fun when you're banning a common troll, just for obvious reasons
  123. [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> there's times when it's not fun
  124. [20:10] <Damac1214> You did what you had to do to keep order, and this talk has given me a pretty big new look on what its like to be an admin
  125. [20:11] <Damac1214> And I get what your saying, the times when its fun and when its not
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