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- [18:26] <Damac1214> Can we talk?
- [18:27] <Derpy_Hooves> eeyup
- [18:28] <Damac1214> I'm sorry for what I said earlier
- [18:28] <Damac1214> that much is clear
- [18:29] <Damac1214> But don't you think your being a bit unfair?
- [18:32] <Damac1214> I'm not talking about the ban mind you
- [18:32] <Damac1214> right now im just talking about the quieting
- [18:32] <Derpy_Hooves> i unquieted you
- [18:32] <Derpy_Hooves> a while ago
- [18:32] <Derpy_Hooves> and it's preempetive
- [18:33] <Derpy_Hooves> so things dont become a shitfest of talking down on other users
- [18:34] <Damac1214> So I can't even get a word out if it shows the chat in a negative light?
- [18:34] <Derpy_Hooves> considering i have to put up with it every god damned day im here
- [18:34] <Derpy_Hooves> i dont think so, no
- [18:35] <Derpy_Hooves> just like how Chat doesn't get to put IRC in a negative light
- [18:36] <Damac1214> Wow
- [18:37] <Damac1214> My only thought is why would you put it up with that?
- [18:37] <Derpy_Hooves> because i do
- [18:37] <Derpy_Hooves> if i didn't then i would have quit a long time ago
- [18:37] <Derpy_Hooves> luckily im one to forget and forgive quickly because i cant be bothered to bog myself down in dislike for other human beings
- [18:39] <Damac1214> I'm gonna be honest
- [18:39] <Damac1214> No sugar coating or sucking up or anything
- [18:40] <Damac1214> thats one of the most insightful things i've heard from a real person
- [18:40] <Damac1214> Well...
- [18:40] <Damac1214> Mostly the "i cant be bothered to bog myself down in dislike for other human beings"
- [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> i live with tolerance
- [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> people can say what they want about me, people can think what they want to think
- [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> i'll tolerate it
- [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> like that dude in chat who called me "gay" earlier because i cracked a joke at him
- [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> i didn't kick him
- [18:41] <Derpy_Hooves> 50 bucks says other people would have
- [18:42] <Damac1214> I always like to think i'm a tolerant person, I can take criticism and what not, but I always slip up when it comes to people
- [18:42] <Damac1214> I find that i can't help but dislike some people
- [18:45] <Damac1214> One more thing though
- [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> i used to be bullied when i was younger
- [18:45] <Damac1214> Continue, i'll bring my thing up later
- [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> even when i was big and had a temper that would scar someone for a long time
- [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> i put up with it for... ever?
- [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> it stopped when they realised they couldn't do anything to bring harm to me
- [18:45] <Derpy_Hooves> i made friends with them afterwards
- [18:46] <Damac1214> I'm kind of the same way, I got bullied throughout most of my younger years
- [18:47] <Damac1214> But it changed when I got to High School, I can't say exactly what it was. Maybe it was a bit of what you did, cause I learned to laugh at myself
- [18:47] <Damac1214> But I also learned to just go with it
- [18:47] <Damac1214> shits gonna happen, you need to see where it takes you
- [18:47] <Derpy_Hooves> bullies are like internet trolls
- [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> they just wanna piss you off
- [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> so long as you dont let them get to you
- [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> they bugger off
- [18:48] <Derpy_Hooves> and you win
- [18:48] <Damac1214> Yeah
- [18:48] <Damac1214> Now I do have one more question, and like I said, its unrelated to this whole thing
- [18:49] <Derpy_Hooves> go on
- [18:49] <Damac1214> When you went through rfa's and UotM's did you experience, for lack of something better, a change in personality?
- [18:50] <Derpy_Hooves> i am the same person i was before i became an admin
- [18:50] <Derpy_Hooves> just older
- [18:50] <Damac1214> No, no, I mean during the voting, not before or after
- [18:51] <Damac1214> Like you felt more nervous or stressed in one way or another
- [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> not at all
- [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> do you know why
- [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> because it's just a wiki
- [18:51] <Derpy_Hooves> and i can always try again if i need to
- [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> and if it didn't pass, then there would have been ample reason for it not to pass
- [18:52] <Damac1214> I always think that way... until I'm actually doing it
- [18:52] <Damac1214> and then suddenly it becomes a competition
- [18:52] <Damac1214> and I have to be better than everyone
- [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> i am not one to change my behaviour or attitude or thinking as i am being evaluated
- [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> as Gandhi once said, "It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence."
- [18:52] <Derpy_Hooves> i.e. it's better to be yourself than someone you are not.
- [18:53] <Damac1214> Your right
- [18:53] <Damac1214> Thanks for talking to me, once again, I'm sorry for acting out earlier, truly. I should have thought before I did
- [18:53] <Damac1214> but I need to go now, Thank you again
- [18:53] <Derpy_Hooves> anytime, my friend, anytime
- [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> there will be some day when im older
- [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> long after my time here has passed
- [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> and i will miss it
- [19:00] <Derpy_Hooves> dearly
- [19:02] <Derpy_Hooves> which is why in an ideal world
- [19:02] <Derpy_Hooves> i would not leave this site, nor the MLP wiki
- [19:03] <Derpy_Hooves> i had to talk with a very angry moderator on the MLP wiki yesterday and try to get him to not quit in protest of something that happened
- [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> it's rather sad to see someone quit a wiki just because of one thing
- [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent." - Gandhi
- [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> leaving the wiki may be good to you in the short term
- [19:05] <Derpy_Hooves> the damage it causes for other users you've come to know does not go away
- [19:10] <Damac|Dinner> Thank You again, It's time for me to make a change
- [19:39] <Derpy_Hooves> http://mlp.wikia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Callofduty4&diff=199569&oldid=188987 it's this sort of thing which makes it all worth it
- [19:40] <Damac1214> Haha yeah, thats why I think i'm still here
- [19:40] <Damac1214> the times when people are nice
- [19:46] <Derpy_Hooves> http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Damac1214/Archive1#WoW.21 you see this
- [19:46] <Derpy_Hooves> thats what you should care about
- [19:47] <Derpy_Hooves> http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Damac1214#Banned_from_Chat thi,s fuck this, and fuck the admin who banned you
- [19:47] <Derpy_Hooves> it doesn't matter once you apologise
- [19:47] <Damac1214> Lol, thanks, I think I get it now
- [19:47] <Damac1214> I'm not going to be what I was trying to be
- [19:48] <Damac1214> I'm gonna make my time here a fun one
- [19:48] <Derpy_Hooves> http://callofduty.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3ACallofduty4 i look at that and laugh
- [19:48] <Derpy_Hooves> why? not because i didn't do anything wrong, i did
- [19:48] <Derpy_Hooves> but, because its funny to look back and see where you fucked up
- [19:49] <Damac1214> And learn from it, see what you've become compared to what you were right?
- [19:50] <Derpy_Hooves> exactly
- [19:52] <Damac1214> Thank you again
- [19:52] <Damac1214> How many times is that now? 5 I think
- [19:52] <Derpy_Hooves> i need not be thanked
- [19:53] <Derpy_Hooves> you being happy is more than enough thanks for me
- [19:54] <Damac1214> And I'll keep up my end, I'm gonna try and keep myself out of trouble from now on
- [19:54] <Damac1214> cut down on what you have to deal with
- [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> another reason why i put up with it is because im too soft and nice to warn people
- [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> once, i had to ban some guy for sockpuppeting
- [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> uhh, forgot the name
- [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> Fr33flya i think
- [19:55] <Derpy_Hooves> he came on the MLP wiki asking to be unbanned and that he was sorry
- [19:56] <Derpy_Hooves> you dont know how bad i felt
- [19:56] <Derpy_Hooves> i said i was sorry like 5 times to him :S
- [19:56] <Damac1214> I actually know exactly what your talking about, I hate upsetting people
- [19:57] <Damac1214> Like in my early days on IRC when Reznov was a bit of a problem, he got angry at me for something I said, i forget what, and got kicked for it
- [19:58] <Damac1214> I said I felt bad for making him upset
- [19:58] <Damac1214> You told me not too, but I still felt bad
- [19:58] <Damac1214> Its stuff like that that really gets me
- [19:58] <Damac1214> And Its why I felt awful when AS360 deleted his page
- [20:08] <Derpy_Hooves> yeah
- [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> im sorry i had to resort to kicking you out of the chat
- [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> you may think that being an admin, it's fun to ban people
- [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> it's fun when you're banning a common troll, just for obvious reasons
- [20:09] <Derpy_Hooves> there's times when it's not fun
- [20:10] <Damac1214> You did what you had to do to keep order, and this talk has given me a pretty big new look on what its like to be an admin
- [20:11] <Damac1214> And I get what your saying, the times when its fun and when its not
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