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[03:55] <bgupta> Why did you just scam me out of 8.1 bc?
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[03:56] <bgupta> You have my bitcoin address. I expect my bc.
[03:57] <FooDSt4mP> 8.1?
[03:58] <FooDSt4mP> when and how
[03:59] <FooDSt4mP> hello?
[04:00] <bgupta> If you don't send the bc immediately, I will be giving you a negative feedback and a scammer warning in your profile. I am positive it was you due to a match on the paypal address
[04:01] <FooDSt4mP> ok
[04:01] <FooDSt4mP> so whats my paypal?
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> if owed you 8.1 i would send it
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> if you paid me, i put you in a database
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> you are not in it
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> i will work this out and look into it
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> what is your paypal?
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> or how did you pay me?
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> show me chat logs
[04:02] <bgupta> pp
[04:02] <FooDSt4mP> because they dont exist
[04:03] <FooDSt4mP> whats your paypal address?
[04:04] <bgupta> [email protected]
[04:04] <FooDSt4mP> ok
[04:04] <FooDSt4mP> whats the transaction #
[04:07] <FooDSt4mP> WHAT IS THE TRANSACTION #
[04:07] <bgupta> Look for a $250 transaction
[04:08] <bgupta> Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID # 4JD21987TR4947248)
[04:08] <FooDSt4mP> ok
[04:09] <FooDSt4mP> btw
[04:09] <FooDSt4mP> before i look this up
[04:09] <FooDSt4mP> dont come yelling at somebody who has a 200+ rating
[04:09] <FooDSt4mP> ask nicely
[04:09] <FooDSt4mP> We're all adults here
[04:10] <FooDSt4mP> I have a transaction from you
[04:10] <FooDSt4mP> and that is NOT the #
[04:10] <FooDSt4mP> also, i would never sell you 8.1 btc for 250
[04:11] <FooDSt4mP> well maybe i would
[04:11] <FooDSt4mP> so
[04:11] <FooDSt4mP> being that you have a transaction in my paypal
[04:11] <FooDSt4mP> lets hop on over to my transfers
[04:11] <FooDSt4mP> and find what i sent you
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> Date:
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> Jun 10, 2011
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> Time:
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> 01:26:41 PDT
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> Status:
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> Completed
[04:12] <FooDSt4mP> that is when you sent paypal
[04:13] <FooDSt4mP> about 3 hrs ago
[04:15] <bgupta> Do you really think I am an idiot?
[04:15] <FooDSt4mP> yes
[04:16] <FooDSt4mP> by the way you are talking to me
[04:16] <FooDSt4mP> can I have 5 mins to look into it>
[04:16] <FooDSt4mP> You come at me YELLING
[04:16] <bgupta> You may..
[04:16] <FooDSt4mP> instead of, excuse me, I think the transaction was not completed, maybe you made an accident, will you check for me?
[04:16] <FooDSt4mP> ok
[04:16] <FooDSt4mP> I am looking into it
[04:17] <FooDSt4mP> I see you already rated me -
[04:17] <FooDSt4mP> if you are going to do that, I will rate you the same
[04:17] <FooDSt4mP> and not even look into the matter
[04:17] <FooDSt4mP> if you want to be an adult
[04:17] <FooDSt4mP> we may resolve this amicably
[04:18] <FooDSt4mP> That is PDT, I am in CST
[04:18] <FooDSt4mP> That is a 2 hour time difference
[04:20] <FooDSt4mP> what was your btc address?
[04:21] <bgupta> 1PTDarezt2KqXSim7a58Ti7TsixPaCXQDF
[04:21] <bgupta> Listen it was under a differnt Nick (Clutch01987) and he asked me to send payment to your paypal account.
[04:22] <FooDSt4mP> that is the one i was supossed to send to?
[04:22] <bgupta> "he"
[04:22] <bgupta> Yes 8.1 bc
[04:22] <FooDSt4mP> ahhh thats what happened
[04:22] <FooDSt4mP> your buddy jacked you
04:23] <bgupta> My firend?
[04:23] <FooDSt4mP> 06/10/11 08:30	Withdraw BTC	18aWobh74m87CynGWzPAbNuF2cjUpAFNzw	-7.5	0
[04:23] <FooDSt4mP> yeah
[04:23] <FooDSt4mP> theres the log in my mtgox that i sent to him
[04:23] <FooDSt4mP> i only had 3 transactions all night dude
[04:23] <FooDSt4mP> there is no way I fucked up
[04:23] <FooDSt4mP> and I will let an operator from the channel log my accounts to verify it
[04:24] <FooDSt4mP> the time zones are wrong on both paypal and mtgox for me
[04:24] <FooDSt4mP> i am in central time
[04:25] <FooDSt4mP> i got the money at :26 after, verified, and send at :30 after the hour
[04:25] <FooDSt4mP> I only had three transactions all night, like I said.
[04:25] <FooDSt4mP> There is no way I could make a mictake
[04:25] <FooDSt4mP> mistake*
[04:26] <FooDSt4mP> [04:14] <gribble> User FooDSt4mP, with hostmask None, was created on Fri Jun  3 04:16:33 2011, and has a cumulative rating of 207, from a total of 68 ratings. Of these, 68 are positive and 0 are negative. This user has also sent 67 positive ratings, and 1 negative ratings to others.
[04:26] <FooDSt4mP> look at my rating
[04:26] <bgupta> What are you talking about. why would someone have me send PPUSD to your paypal account?
[04:27] <FooDSt4mP> Well for something that I sent
[04:27] <FooDSt4mP> It just went to the wrong address which he gave me
[04:27] <FooDSt4mP> and it was a different amount
[04:27] <FooDSt4mP> who is this guy?
[04:27] <FooDSt4mP> how well do you know him?
[04:28] <FooDSt4mP> Because I think he is the one you need to be having this conversation with.  I promise you, I don't lie, I don't cheap people, and I don't steal.
[04:28] <FooDSt4mP> If I was to do that, I wouldn't even talk to you
[04:28] <FooDSt4mP> I would run and hide
[04:28] <FooDSt4mP> I would refund your money or send you btc if I was wm notrong, but I promise I
[04:28] <FooDSt4mP> I would refund your money or send you btc if I was wrong, but I promise I'm not
[04:29] <FooDSt4mP> I only had three transactions all night because it is so slow here
[04:29] <FooDSt4mP> I usually do 50 a night or so
[04:29] <FooDSt4mP> who is this 'friend' of yours.. How do you know him?
[04:29] <bgupta> what are you talking about?
[04:30] <FooDSt4mP> What are you talking about?
[04:30] <FooDSt4mP> I didn't do anything wrong
[04:30] <FooDSt4mP> I did everyting I was supossed to
[04:30] <FooDSt4mP> Otherwise I would refund your money or send what I was supossed to send
[04:31] <FooDSt4mP> Hello?
[04:31] <bgupta> Trying to diggest what you are saying
[04:32] <FooDSt4mP> I'll break it down for you:  YOUR FRIEND FUCKED YOU.
[04:33] <bgupta> What firend.. I think we got man in the middled
[04:34] <FooDSt4mP> Exactly
[04:34] <bgupta> which email is best?
[04:34] <FooDSt4mP> The middle man fucked you
[04:34] <bgupta> I'll send you log.
[04:34] <FooDSt4mP> I am [email protected]
[04:34] <bgupta> I don't get what he offered you?
[04:35] <FooDSt4mP> Well if you get him to send back to me, I will refund your money
[04:35] <FooDSt4mP> He didnt offer me anything
[04:35] <FooDSt4mP> He offered to pay for my service
[04:35] <bgupta> I don't know him.. please don't lend out your paypal account. it is only to be used for fraud
[04:35] <FooDSt4mP> which I provided
[04:35] <bgupta> to fraud me?
[04:35] <FooDSt4mP> and I have logs
[04:35] <FooDSt4mP> You didnt lend your paypal account
[04:36] <FooDSt4mP> You told me he had you send the money already]
[04:36] <FooDSt4mP> I will be sending this log to paypal
[04:36] <FooDSt4mP> If you lie to paypal to reverse the transaction when I rendered the service, and you admitted to paying, it is a felony.
[04:37] <FooDSt4mP> your friend owes you, not me
[04:37] <FooDSt4mP> Also, if you contact paypal, they will shut your paypal account off.
[04:37] <bgupta> before you do read this email I am about to send you
[04:37] <FooDSt4mP> I have delt with them a bunch of times, and I have never lost.
[04:37] <FooDSt4mP> ok
[04:37] <FooDSt4mP> well
[04:37] <FooDSt4mP> I will read it
[04:38] <FooDSt4mP> I run a business here, and I take pride in my business.
[04:38] <FooDSt4mP> Let me know when the email is sent
[04:39] <bgupta> #1 this guy is not my friend. I don't know why you think that
[04:39] <FooDSt4mP> YOU SAID YOURSELF he was your friend
[04:40] <bgupta> WHAT?
[04:41] <FooDSt4mP> ok maybe you didnt
[04:41] <FooDSt4mP> i said it sorry
[04:41] <FooDSt4mP> but
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> You did admit YOU sent payment for another guy.
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> I suggest handling your business yourself
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> and stop using middlemen
[04:42] <bgupta> what are you talking about?
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> They will steal from you
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> Case closed.
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> You can email me whatever you want.  I will look at it.  I rendered my services.
[04:42] <FooDSt4mP> Have a good evening.
[04:42] <bgupta> I cross reference email addresses afterwards and realized after the transaction that it was the same
[04:43] <bgupta> do not render that service it is used to scam people
[04:43] <FooDSt4mP> The same what?
[04:43] <FooDSt4mP> Sir, I DO NOT SCAM PEOPLE.  Your middle man is the scammer.
[04:43] <FooDSt4mP> I will be contacting paypal and providing them this log.
[04:43] <FooDSt4mP> Good evening.
[04:44] <bgupta> Yes. but the service you offered him enabled the scam. I am suggesting that you refrain from offering that service
[04:51] <bgupta> A word of warning.. If I hadn't matched the paypal accounts, I would have canceled payment, and You would have gotten screwed.
[04:52] <bgupta> I wouldn't have spoken to you.. I would have thought Cluth01987 was the modern american revolution, and I would have retaliated.
[04:53] <bgupta> Do you understand how both of us got scammed?
[04:53] <FooDSt4mP> He is not.  That is my organization
[04:53] <bgupta> Yes but he sold me telling me it was his paypal account
[04:53] <FooDSt4mP> Ok
[04:53] <FooDSt4mP> Look
[04:54] <FooDSt4mP> Before I make ANY deal, I have a terms of service... Let me paste it for you
[04:54] <FooDSt4mP> My PayPal address is [email protected]  |  The BTC's are always free with me I only have this charge as a consulting fee because I consult the BTC's and teach them how to find the way to your address.  I need your the address for the BTC's to go to now.  Please send payment as a gift and do not attach a note.  Once I confirm, I will send the BTC's to you.
[04:55] <FooDSt4mP> What business is it of yours what I do for a living?  Don't send payments for people you don't know.  If you wouldn't of done that, there wouldn't of been a problem.
[04:55] <bgupta> How did he have your paypal address?
[04:55] <FooDSt4mP> Just because I own a gun store and I sell a man a gun and that man goes home and kills his wife DOES NOT make me an enabler.
[04:56] <FooDSt4mP> I did my job like I do every other time.  I did not enable him sir, your payment did.
[04:57] <bgupta> I don't think yuou are understanding.. I could have very easily not made the connection that it was the saem paypal account. or anyone could have.
[04:57] <FooDSt4mP> I will try to find clutch myself, I am sorry this happend to you.  I will see if paypal can track his IP address
[04:58] <bgupta> Chances are most people he pulls this on wouldn'
[04:58] <bgupta> t have