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  1. [2012-01-18 00:05:41] <Arkeus> Suddenyl, quiet
  2. [2012-01-18 00:05:57] <Arkeus> It would be really great if we get back early enough for our meeting
  3. [2012-01-18 00:06:03] <Grail> It would.
  4. [2012-01-18 00:06:26] <Grail> It sounds like we barely spent any time looking in the first section before we found the Dreamer
  5. [2012-01-18 00:06:37] <Arkeus> we didn't spend any time
  6. [2012-01-18 00:06:54] <Arkeus> Turn out we're lucky-the moment we set out to the West, I start getting inklings of something... strange situated behind the masses of attention. <= 'the moment'
  7. [2012-01-18 00:07:35] <Grail> If we do make it back we'll even get some time to prepare
  8. [2012-01-18 00:07:41] <Grail> At least ten hours in fact
  9. [2012-01-18 00:08:22] <Grail> You know I'm kind of happy we're working out the kinks in our soul guise system all the way over here.
  10. [2012-01-18 00:08:26] <Arkeus> if we get teleported, yes
  11. [2012-01-18 00:08:30] <Grail> Before our important meeting
  12. [2012-01-18 00:08:33] <Arkeus> Very much so
  13. [2012-01-18 00:08:40] <Grail> If not we'll barely make it, yes, already went over that though
  14. [2012-01-18 00:08:47] <Arkeus> Though only 'veiled threat' is applicable so far
  15. [2012-01-18 00:09:07] <Arkeus> We need to work on the other ones soon
  16. [2012-01-18 00:09:25] <Arkeus> Though we probably want 'Veiled threat' down pat first
  17. [2012-01-18 00:10:23] <Arkeus> Though for the meeting, i would like it if Armas could work five or so hours on 'mundane' while talking to people first
  18. [2012-01-18 00:10:34] <BUTTZ> Hey look at google
  19. [2012-01-18 00:10:54] <Arkeus> ?
  20. [2012-01-18 00:11:05] <BUTTZ> google
  21. [2012-01-18 00:11:09] <Arkeus> it works
  22. [2012-01-18 00:11:38] <BUTTZ> Oh wait you're looking at google.com.fr right?
  23. [2012-01-18 00:11:42] <BUTTZ> look at google.com
  24. [2012-01-18 00:11:48] <Arkeus> i am looking at google.com
  25. [2012-01-18 00:12:02] <BUTTZ> Well it's got a big long thick black thing
  26. [2012-01-18 00:12:21] <Arkeus> not mine yet
  27. [2012-01-18 00:12:39] <Grail> No, soon enough that big long thick black thing will be yours too
  28. [2012-01-18 00:12:47] <Arkeus> yay!
  29. [2012-01-18 00:13:14] <Arkeus> Anyway, do you guys think we should use 'veiled threat' for the meeting, or try to get decent at another guise for it?
  30. [2012-01-18 00:13:37] <Grail> It seems applicable, but not ideal for the meeting.
  31. [2012-01-18 00:13:44] <BUTTZ> Go with Guise of Camella for it
  32. [2012-01-18 00:13:57] <Grail> That would be great actually
  33. [2012-01-18 00:14:03] <Arkeus> ...guise of Camella?
  34. [2012-01-18 00:14:04] <Arkeus> why?
  35. [2012-01-18 00:14:22] <Grail> She's the kind of person you want in terms of mindset and impression you get off of them
  36. [2012-01-18 00:14:35] <sunnyside> Vieled threat until we've mastered it imo
  37. [2012-01-18 00:14:52] <Arkeus> True, but bob did say we should focus on only a few soul guise at first.
  38. [2012-01-18 00:15:01] <Arkeus> So i was thinking of one that is mostly 'dependable'
  39. [2012-01-18 00:15:03] <Grail> But really we want something we can maintain under any situation
  40. [2012-01-18 00:15:09] <BUTTZ> We're familiar with what it's supposed to look like, she's hypercompetent but non-magical, and if we decide to not evade questions about our personal magic abilities we'll be able to show off by changing to another guise
  41. [2012-01-18 00:15:12] <Arkeus> but not utterly Camella
  42. [2012-01-18 00:15:16] <Grail> And this is an Asitane meeting with a high power man.
  43. [2012-01-18 00:15:27] |<-- ManOfTroyClone has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  44. [2012-01-18 00:15:29] <Grail> So whatever we pick needs to be good.
  45. [2012-01-18 00:15:34] <Arkeus> Yeah
  46. [2012-01-18 00:15:38] <Arkeus> and Stable
  47. [2012-01-18 00:15:56] <Grail> One false move and the entire Asitane could notice
  48. [2012-01-18 00:15:57] <Arkeus> So we should probably work on it for at least 5 or so hours beforehand
  49. [2012-01-18 00:16:10] <BUTTZ> We should see if Camella can tell what we're doing if we have the guise while we talk to her
  50. [2012-01-18 00:16:11] <Arkeus> (the rest being sleep)
  51. [2012-01-18 00:16:21] <BUTTZ> She'd probably be weirded out by it
  52. [2012-01-18 00:16:32] <sunnyside> We've spent by far the most time on vieled though and it still drops all the time, i don't think risking starting a new one is a good idea
  53. [2012-01-18 00:16:48] <Arkeus> sunnyside: we have spent not that much time with veiled threat
  54. [2012-01-18 00:16:51] <Arkeus> maybe an hour all told
  55. [2012-01-18 00:16:56] <Grail> I'd hesitantly agree, but we MAY have ten hours of alone time.
  56. [2012-01-18 00:17:00] <Grail> Where we can focus
  57. [2012-01-18 00:17:28] <sunnyside> Weren't we practicing that mainly through the trek to APG?
  58. [2012-01-18 00:17:29] <Grail> And maybe even have Amen assist us, is that better than using that towards the veil?
  59. [2012-01-18 00:17:31] <Grail> Who knows?
  60. [2012-01-18 00:17:56] <Arkeus> sunnyside: only at the tail end
  61. [2012-01-18 00:19:30] -->| Samar_ (~mabinogi@Rizon-8D3F6048.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #golemquest
  62. [2012-01-18 00:19:52] <sunnyside> hmm your right that and mundane are the ones we worked on
  63. [2012-01-18 00:19:53] |<-- Samar has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  64. [2012-01-18 00:19:58] =-= Samar_ is now known as Samar
  65. [2012-01-18 00:20:25] <Arkeus> I'll ask bob later how long we spent on that
  66. [2012-01-18 00:20:48] <Arkeus> Though practicing while talking to people and doing stuff is probably better than practicing by our lonesome
  67. [2012-01-18 00:21:34] <BUTTZ> Practicing while in pain in the torture music room?
  68. [2012-01-18 00:21:51] <Grail> We do have multiple torture rooms you know
  69. [2012-01-18 00:22:19] <Grail> Can't be certain we're using the music room.
  70. [2012-01-18 00:22:40] <Grail> We'll need to ask specifically for the music room.
  71. [2012-01-18 00:23:44] <Arkeus> why?
  72. [2012-01-18 00:24:41] <Grail> No reason, just saying Amen's playhouse has several rooms. If we want to ruin someone's renovated music room with our blood we would need to work at it.
  73. [2012-01-18 00:24:47] <Arkeus> I am a bit sad Alratan seems to have given up
  74. [2012-01-18 00:24:56] <Arkeus> Ah.
  75. [2012-01-18 00:25:22] <BUTTZ> Al gave up?
  76. [2012-01-18 00:25:41] <Arkeus> Well, he hasn't been her a while
  77. [2012-01-18 00:25:45] <Arkeus> and he doesn't post either
  78. [2012-01-18 00:25:48] <Arkeus> so it seems like it
  79. [2012-01-18 00:26:00] <BUTTZ> Hopefully he only gave up and didn't have an accident
  80. [2012-01-18 00:35:38] <Arkeus> http://www.goblinscomic.com/01172012/ badass
  81. [2012-01-18 00:36:47] <ABob> 4Updates nearly done. I HOPE something it contains will markedly improve how well Armas performs. Judge for yourselves soon.
  82. [2012-01-18 00:37:27] * Arkeus is such a pessimist. He is thinking it's something negative that will force us to think harder.
  83. [2012-01-18 00:38:03] <ABob> 4[It's a way to auto-upvote your own plans if you put in some modicum of effort]
  84. [2012-01-18 00:38:14] <Arkeus> wow lol
  85. [2012-01-18 00:38:38] <BUTTZ> Oh god Bob you want Armas to die
  86. [2012-01-18 00:40:01] <Ironybot> With this, I can finally run Armas alone. With the ability to upvote myself and SUST everyone else, he will never have to listen to anyone else ever again.
  87. [2012-01-18 00:40:10] <Ironybot> Join me in celebration, brothers; victory is at hand.
  88. [2012-01-18 00:40:16] <Arkeus> lol
  89. [2012-01-18 00:40:29] * Arkeus can't stop laughing
  90. [2012-01-18 00:41:09] <Arkeus> I think bob is talking about a way for something like 'the best plan there is, the easier it will be for Sake/SB and co to upvote our plan'
  91. [2012-01-18 00:41:19] <Arkeus> it's the result of your philosphy Ironybot, i think
  92. [2012-01-18 00:41:54] <TMIoverload> Well, Iron Trick and Bird come into play too. And the four of them don't always agree
  93. [2012-01-18 00:42:32] <Arkeus> So i guess we can get a maximum of four upvotes
  94. [2012-01-18 00:42:39] <Arkeus> Depending on how well our plans are
  95. [2012-01-18 00:44:38] <Arkeus> Also, the update was written quite quickly if it's nearly done. Unless TheBob(Tm) had begun it before Irony's post
  96. [2012-01-18 00:44:48] <ABob> 4I had not
  97. [2012-01-18 00:44:54] <ABob> 4still working
  98. [2012-01-18 00:45:25] <Grail> And there
  99. [2012-01-18 00:45:36] <Grail> First thread of Armas' interactions with Amen done
  100. [2012-01-18 00:45:52] <Arkeus> nice
  101. [2012-01-18 00:45:59] <Arkeus> should think about going back to SM stuff soon :-(
  102. [2012-01-18 00:46:09] <Arkeus> Also, we have to update Armas' page
  103. [2012-01-18 00:46:13] <Grail> Man it makes me feel bad for BC
  104. [2012-01-18 00:46:21] <Arkeus> we got quite a bit of info on his winter bloodline since
  105. [2012-01-18 00:46:29] <Arkeus> Grail: oh?
  106. [2012-01-18 00:46:37] <Grail> Stop shoving to do lists on me man, let me bask in the accomplishment of getting something small finished.
  107. [2012-01-18 00:46:43] <BUTTZ> Being left to Amen's tender mercies for a day?
  108. [2012-01-18 00:46:43] <BUTTZ> Yeah
  109. [2012-01-18 00:46:57] <Grail> Beyond that
  110. [2012-01-18 00:47:01] <Arkeus> Grail: i was thinking of myself, actually
  111. [2012-01-18 00:47:04] <Grail> They would have only paid him 50k in total.
  112. [2012-01-18 00:47:10] <Grail> Olga was such a cheapskate
  113. [2012-01-18 00:47:12] <BUTTZ> Oh yeah he got ripped off
  114. [2012-01-18 00:47:16] <Arkeus> What, really?
  115. [2012-01-18 00:47:17] <Arkeus> lol
  116. [2012-01-18 00:47:27] <BUTTZ> Of course, he thought we were just a mundane asshole
  117. [2012-01-18 00:47:30] <Grail> Armas doesn't get out of bed for 50k
  118. [2012-01-18 00:47:31] <BUTTZ> No magic at all, etc
  119. [2012-01-18 00:47:40] <Arkeus> lol Grail
  120. [2012-01-18 00:47:51] <BUTTZ> Armas gets up long enough to assign some employees to the job
  121. [2012-01-18 00:47:52] <Grail> Well actually Armas would get out of bed for a shiny nickle
  122. [2012-01-18 00:48:02] <BUTTZ> It wouldn't even have to be metal
  123. [2012-01-18 00:48:02] <Ironybot> Maybe he doesn't these days; there were times when he'd do a lot more than get out of bed for it.
  124. [2012-01-18 00:48:13] <BUTTZ> A wooden nickle polished to a high sheen would get him out of bed
  125. [2012-01-18 00:48:24] <Ironybot> These days, he orders minions to pick up every shiny nickle for him.
  126. [2012-01-18 00:48:31] <Arkeus> lol
  127. [2012-01-18 00:48:32] <BUTTZ> "Camella look at this nickle I found!"
  128. [2012-01-18 00:48:37] <BUTTZ> "It's made of wood."
  129. [2012-01-18 00:48:41] <BUTTZ> "I picked it up."
  130. [2012-01-18 00:49:10] <BUTTZ> Then she says something in Italian about needing to keep a better eye on him
  131. [2012-01-18 00:49:13] <Ironybot> Dammit, I forgot how many silly things we told Amen to do.
  132. [2012-01-18 00:49:40] <Ralith> how many silly things did we tell amen to do
  133. [2012-01-18 00:49:48] <Grail> A lot
  134. [2012-01-18 00:49:51] <Ironybot> So many.
  135. [2012-01-18 00:49:52] <Grail> Too many to count
  136. [2012-01-18 00:49:56] <Arkeus> http://tgchan.org/wiki/Guns_for_Hire_Amen
  137. [2012-01-18 00:49:56] <Ironybot> So very, very many.
  138. [2012-01-18 00:49:58] <Arkeus> count
  139. [2012-01-18 00:50:52] <Ironybot> By the way, Grail, you did a great job with this.
  140. [2012-01-18 00:51:09] <Grail> Thanks
  141. [2012-01-18 00:51:15] <Arkeus> that he did
  142. [2012-01-18 00:54:48] <Arkeus> apparently 4chan blankout
  143. [2012-01-18 00:54:54] <Arkeus> good think GfH is on TG
  144. [2012-01-18 00:56:15] <Grail> I'm going to regret starting work on thread 2.
  145. [2012-01-18 00:56:26] <Grail> As soon as the mental communication happens...
  146. [2012-01-18 00:56:36] <Arkeus> yeah
  147. [2012-01-18 00:56:50] <Arkeus> worse is thread 3 and 4
  148. [2012-01-18 00:56:56] <Arkeus> thread two has Valkonen place
  149. [2012-01-18 00:57:01] <Arkeus> which helps
  150. [2012-01-18 00:57:06] <Arkeus> Those wards
  151. [2012-01-18 01:01:09] -->| MrTT (~MrTT@Rizon-AA53D688.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has joined #golemquest
  152. [2012-01-18 01:01:34] <Arkeus> hey MrTT
  153. [2012-01-18 01:01:43] <Arkeus> update btw
  154. [2012-01-18 01:02:22] <ABob> 4Update is up
  155. [2012-01-18 01:02:25] <ABob> 4Ask Arkeus noted
  156. [2012-01-18 01:02:32] <ABob> 4with theme music for POTENTIAL BOSS FIGHT?
  157. [2012-01-18 01:02:44] <ABob> 4(only a boss fight if you don't pay attention)
  158. [2012-01-18 01:02:51] <BUTTZ> Yay boss fight
  159. [2012-01-18 01:03:11] <ABob> 4Music: DUKE NUKEM THEME. I wonder who the potential boss could be....
  160. [2012-01-18 01:03:27] <Arkeus> indeed
  161. [2012-01-18 01:04:34] <Grail> Some formatting errors with Hummingbird in there
  162. [2012-01-18 01:04:39] <ABob> 4...formatting... trying to fix
  163. [2012-01-18 01:04:39] <Arkeus> yeah
  164. [2012-01-18 01:07:41] <Arkeus> And I do: It's clear he's found a way to fill a niche that more or less perfectly fits what I want: The largely enigmatic but most assuredly dangerous dandy that no one messes with. One day....
  165. [2012-01-18 01:07:41] <Arkeus> >"Would be easier to accomplish if you abandoned trolling along the way."
  166. [2012-01-18 01:07:41] <Arkeus> Sake, I know SB just spoke-but for the life of me, I can't understand what he's saying-you got any ideas?
  167. [2012-01-18 01:07:42] <Arkeus> >[Sake]"None at all-he seems to be speaking tongues."
  168. [2012-01-18 01:07:44] <Arkeus> heheehhheheeheheheheehhee
  169. [2012-01-18 01:08:47] <ABob> 4Okay, should be fixed
  170. [2012-01-18 01:09:20] <Arkeus> much better
  171. [2012-01-18 01:11:26] <Arkeus> good job grail
  172. [2012-01-18 01:11:30] * Arkeus thumbs up
  173. [2012-01-18 01:12:28] <Grail> On the wiki? Thanks again.
  174. [2012-01-18 01:13:09] <Arkeus> no, on your input for Ironybot's post
  175. [2012-01-18 01:13:37] <Ironybot> Yeah, that helped. Although I do wonder now if we can replicate this trick without the hummingbird's iinput.
  176. [2012-01-18 01:13:48] <Arkeus> I don't think we have the skill yet
  177. [2012-01-18 01:13:53] <Ironybot> A "done it once, I can do it again" sort of thing.
  178. [2012-01-18 01:14:00] <Arkeus> But we should be able to cheat our way into getting it
  179. [2012-01-18 01:14:13] <Grail> Oh then you're welcome
  180. [2012-01-18 01:14:20] <Ironybot> We don't necessarily need skill to do complex things, so long as those complex things are something within our bloodline's specialization.
  181. [2012-01-18 01:14:50] <Ironybot> Particularly as it's all based on will rather than intellect.
  182. [2012-01-18 01:15:00] <Arkeus> iirc, the thing Hummingbird did to talk to Silja used our bloodline too
  183. [2012-01-18 01:15:04] <Arkeus> and was Expert level
  184. [2012-01-18 01:15:12] <Arkeus> which is... maybe a level5 or 6 trait
  185. [2012-01-18 01:15:56] <Arkeus> oh, ABob, question: how long did armas spent working on 'veiled threat' and 'mundane' soul guises?
  186. [2012-01-18 01:15:57] <ABob> 4You could replicate it-but any attempt to change it from what Hummingbird set up will be far more energy intensive as you sift through different methods for other 'soul bubble' formats that are workable.
  187. [2012-01-18 01:16:21] <Arkeus> Would having hummingbird set it up differently help with that?
  188. [2012-01-18 01:16:21] <Grail> I have a little vigor left in me.
  189. [2012-01-18 01:16:22] <Arkeus> mmmh...
  190. [2012-01-18 01:16:27] <Grail> Do we want to go over what to do now?
  191. [2012-01-18 01:16:33] <Arkeus> sure
  192. [2012-01-18 01:16:39] <Grail> Because I'm going to fall asleep in like twenty minutes.
  193. [2012-01-18 01:17:02] <Arkeus> did you mean "i have little", and not "i have a little"?
  194. [2012-01-18 01:17:18] <Grail> a little
  195. [2012-01-18 01:17:19] -->| EvilP (~kvirc@3F031A86.8B42092B.48D25A5C.IP) has joined #golemquest
  196. [2012-01-18 01:17:37] <Arkeus> Then sure, as long as Ironybot is ready to too
  197. [2012-01-18 01:17:59] <Ironybot> Sure.
  198. [2012-01-18 01:18:06] <ABob> 4also, I personally think Hummingbird's titling of your Soul Manipulation Bloodline's energy as 'Warrior's Vigor and Vim' is superior to any conventional or official nomenclature. But that's me.
  199. [2012-01-18 01:18:17] <Arkeus> I am thinking of the 'primary approach' being to talk about how we want to wake up the Dreamer, not hurt him
  200. [2012-01-18 01:18:31] <Grail> That's good
  201. [2012-01-18 01:18:45] <ABob> 4Uh-shouldn't you worry about Duke first?
  202. [2012-01-18 01:18:56] <Arkeus> ABob: titling?, "warrior's vigor and vim"?
  203. [2012-01-18 01:18:57] <BUTTZ> "I'm obligated to keep it safe and sound just now."
  204. [2012-01-18 01:19:03] <Arkeus> titleing
  205. [2012-01-18 01:19:04] <Arkeus> right
  206. [2012-01-18 01:19:11] <Ironybot> The phrase "just now" might be telling, there.
  207. [2012-01-18 01:19:12] <Arkeus> ABob: i meant talking about this with duke
  208. [2012-01-18 01:19:20] <Arkeus> ... true
  209. [2012-01-18 01:19:30] <Ironybot> There could be times during which he's not obligated to do shit.
  210. [2012-01-18 01:19:53] <Arkeus> 'Safe and Sound' too
  211. [2012-01-18 01:19:59] <Arkeus> we can argue we don't want to kill him
  212. [2012-01-18 01:20:04] <Arkeus> hurt him
  213. [2012-01-18 01:20:05] <Arkeus> i mean
  214. [2012-01-18 01:20:08] <Arkeus> just wake him
  215. [2012-01-18 01:21:22] <Ironybot> That's some shifty logic.
  216. [2012-01-18 01:21:26] <Grail> Dreary now, but would we or Shadowbro be able to tell how fast we're draining energy and how long we'll be able to go at this rate
  217. [2012-01-18 01:21:49] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not really, we are going to wake him up by slaying him anyway
  218. [2012-01-18 01:21:53] <Grail> And if so can we know this? To properly plan post length around
  219. [2012-01-18 01:21:54] <Arkeus> we might not hurt him
  220. [2012-01-18 01:22:08] <Ironybot> My preferred approach would be, since we know that Duke doesn't want to be here and we don't want to fight him, would be to ask him more about exactly what the limitations on what he's required to do are- then seek a mutually acceptable result.
  221. [2012-01-18 01:22:15] <Ironybot> There are few Bargains without loopholes.
  222. [2012-01-18 01:22:28] <Arkeus> Ironybot: that would be the 'primary' way, right?
  223. [2012-01-18 01:22:31] <Ironybot> Yes.
  224. [2012-01-18 01:22:33] <Arkeus> what about the others?
  225. [2012-01-18 01:22:42] <BUTTZ> We point and say "LOOK AT THAT"
  226. [2012-01-18 01:22:48] <BUTTZ> And then we shoot it while he's looking
  227. [2012-01-18 01:22:51] <Ironybot> Tricky would be arguing shifty word bullshit like "Oh, shooting it is fine, it won't really hurt it!"
  228. [2012-01-18 01:23:11] <Ironybot> Which, whatever Ogrimir said, is obvious crap.
  229. [2012-01-18 01:23:29] <BUTTZ> We could use an alternate way of waking the Dreamer
  230. [2012-01-18 01:23:35] <BUTTZ> Like, the wet willy plan
  231. [2012-01-18 01:23:47] <Ironybot> We don't really know any alternate ways which we can rely upon to actually work, though.
  232. [2012-01-18 01:24:17] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> Tricky would be arguing shifty word bullshit like "Oh, shooting it is fine, it won't really hurt it!" <= shooting was Armas' saying
  233. [2012-01-18 01:24:20] <Arkeus> not OG
  234. [2012-01-18 01:24:20] <BUTTZ> We could set a fire
  235. [2012-01-18 01:24:23] <BUTTZ> Like, a forest fire
  236. [2012-01-18 01:24:24] <Arkeus> OG said 'slay'
  237. [2012-01-18 01:24:48] <ABob> 4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOR2f0EA8Co&sns=fb
  238. [2012-01-18 01:24:48] <Classhole> ABob: Classic Hollywood Guide to how to react when you screw up a scene - length 10m 0s - rated 4.98/5.0 (511) - 19132 views - 0AnCla0 on 2010.06.06
  239. [2012-01-18 01:25:14] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i am guessing the Dreamer being >>>>>>>>>>> Armas is the reason why neither my nor BUTTZ's plan worked
  240. [2012-01-18 01:25:16] <Ironybot> The Amazon is so incredibly humid that it doesn't really burn.
  241. [2012-01-18 01:25:35] <BUTTZ> Then why does Slash and Burn clearing work?
  242. [2012-01-18 01:25:50] <Ironybot> The "slash" part helps a lot.
  243. [2012-01-18 01:26:10] <BUTTZ> We can get Sake to help with that, and Armas can move earth like a motherfucker himself
  244. [2012-01-18 01:26:27] <Ironybot> How do you suggest we do this with Duke watching?
  245. [2012-01-18 01:26:43] <Grail> Alright so our primary plan is to discuss terms with him, preferably in a way that's casual or less threatening so we can afford to take up more time.
  246. [2012-01-18 01:27:08] <Grail> As this will allow SB to finish his thing, which opens up more options for us, which is always good thing
  247. [2012-01-18 01:27:45] <Grail> It's rather nice how the prompt actually lends itself to the new system
  248. [2012-01-18 01:27:48] <Ironybot> Unfortunately, in this case Shadowbro's gain is our loss- our soul energy is depleting quickly.
  249. [2012-01-18 01:28:22] <Arkeus> we don't know how quickly though
  250. [2012-01-18 01:28:34] <Arkeus> Also, we can't really use winter energy for that much stuff
  251. [2012-01-18 01:28:40] <Arkeus> Excpet, well, powering hummingbird
  252. [2012-01-18 01:28:44] <Arkeus> and hybrid regen
  253. [2012-01-18 01:28:45] <Arkeus> and rez
  254. [2012-01-18 01:28:48] <Arkeus> ... orz
  255. [2012-01-18 01:29:05] <Arkeus> Hey, i think Hummingbird should be able to tell when we are going to drop
  256. [2012-01-18 01:30:14] <Arkeus> Thinking about it, do we need to ADVANCE while talking to duke?
  257. [2012-01-18 01:30:26] <Arkeus> does it hurt even if we 'sit still'?
  258. [2012-01-18 01:30:37] <Arkeus> mmmh, probably
  259. [2012-01-18 01:31:01] <Grail> Hopefully Word Like Gold comes into play with Duke
  260. [2012-01-18 01:31:09] <Grail> During the Primary Plan
  261. [2012-01-18 01:31:23] <Arkeus> Duke seems to be quite like Armas about those things, so i would say yes
  262. [2012-01-18 01:32:32] <Arkeus> Heavy handed is presumably SB detecting Duke
  263. [2012-01-18 01:32:49] <Arkeus> Also, SB must be REALLY happy to finally pacify the shadow
  264. [2012-01-18 01:33:05] <BUTTZ> It's only been, what, a full day?
  265. [2012-01-18 01:33:06] <Arkeus> Though that makes me wonder how he can predict when it will happen
  266. [2012-01-18 01:33:21] <Arkeus> yeah, but time is different for SB i would gather
  267. [2012-01-18 01:33:40] <BUTTZ> He can guess when it's going to run out of energy based on how it's been spending energy is how I'd reckon he can estimate the time to pacification
  268. [2012-01-18 01:34:34] <Arkeus> not running out of energy, as he'll gain a raw gain of energy the moment the pacification is done
  269. [2012-01-18 01:34:42] <Arkeus> i think it's convertion or something
  270. [2012-01-18 01:36:17] <Arkeus> I think we should go and try to guess the terms of Duke's contract ourself. It might REALLY help
  271. [2012-01-18 01:39:34] <ABob> 4So, Armas should tell Labombard to play bass, and when he asks why that, say it's because he's black. Labombard has, in his backstory, that a past girlfriend put in the effort to get him a very minor memory implant-and he is now actually reasonably skilled-and doesn't know it
  272. [2012-01-18 01:39:44] <ABob> 4you could troll him so hard by forcing him to enact a stereotype
  273. [2012-01-18 01:39:53] <Arkeus> lol
  274. [2012-01-18 01:39:57] <ABob> 4And having it work perfectly.
  275. [2012-01-18 01:40:07] <Arkeus> meta-knoweldge though
  276. [2012-01-18 01:40:21] <Ironybot> "Come on, Labombard! All black guys are great at this, you'll do fine."
  277. [2012-01-18 01:40:23] <BUTTZ> "It's because you're the hariest guy in the band. It's a rule. Either the fattest guy or the hariest guy has to be on bass."
  278. [2012-01-18 01:40:45] <Arkeus> "Labombard, all black men are good at bass. I'll provei t to you."
  279. [2012-01-18 01:41:23] <ABob> 4You could even, before handing him the guitar (if skilled enough with flesh manipulation) become black, play, do alright, go back, pretend to magically suck-and then have him play
  280. [2012-01-18 01:41:48] <Ralith> yesss
  281. [2012-01-18 01:41:57] <BUTTZ> Oh man once we learn how to change our skin tone we're never going to stop messing with people
  282. [2012-01-18 01:41:58] <Ironybot> For bonus points, don't actually play the bass at all and instead have Sake play a wild riff with wind manipulation when we're black.
  283. [2012-01-18 01:42:10] <Ironybot> Then actually try to play when we're white.
  284. [2012-01-18 01:42:11] <Grail> Did the comedy guys smile on us for giving us the perfect set up to a South Park joke?
  285. [2012-01-18 01:42:16] <ABob> 4That way you aren't pretending-yes...
  286. [2012-01-18 01:42:17] <Grail> guys? gods.
  287. [2012-01-18 01:42:32] <Grail> Time to slee.
  288. [2012-01-18 01:42:50] <Arkeus> g'night Grail
  289. [2012-01-18 01:43:39] <Ironybot> For additional bonus points, have Camella be there, watch us do this, and then convince her that it's a Belief magic thing that actually makes our claims true.
  290. [2012-01-18 01:43:58] <Ironybot> All black guys are great at bass because people think they're great at bass, right, so it feeds back into itself!
  291. [2012-01-18 01:44:16] <Ironybot> Wait, your world has stereotypes that aren't self-supporting? Wild. How does that work?
  292. [2012-01-18 01:44:31] <Arkeus> We really must make Camella Believe that thoughts aimed at us by people we love/know the true name of can be heard by Armas
  293. [2012-01-18 01:44:32] <Arkeus> :-)
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  295. [2012-01-18 01:47:35] <sunnyside> How long did it take us to get to the clearing?
  296. [2012-01-18 01:47:49] <Arkeus> do you guys think the soul shell also increases other stuff beyond 'protection' from attention?
  297. [2012-01-18 01:48:08] <Ironybot> Read its description.
  298. [2012-01-18 01:48:24] <Arkeus> i just did
  299. [2012-01-18 01:48:43] <Arkeus> I am still iffy about this
  300. [2012-01-18 01:49:14] <Ironybot> The "it's walls opaque-especially to spiritual perception" seems fairly explicit that while it mostly shields against spiritual perception, it definitely operates on other things as well.
  301. [2012-01-18 01:49:50] <Arkeus> Mmmh.
  302. [2012-01-18 01:50:18] <Arkeus> I wonder if we could work with hummingbird to tweak it for different uses
  303. [2012-01-18 01:50:45] <Arkeus> Though this seems like some kind of Ranged, superior, ego-less ability.
  304. [2012-01-18 01:50:58] <Arkeus> well, not just ranged
  305. [2012-01-18 01:51:52] <Arkeus> So, anyone has any idea what the contract Duke has about the Dreamer?
  306. [2012-01-18 01:51:59] <Arkeus> and whether it involves Granny stomp?
  307. [2012-01-18 01:52:50] <BUTTZ> If he's not a part of the deal, but paying into it, it logically benefits him as a third party
  308. [2012-01-18 01:53:09] <BUTTZ> Possibly a Deal an ancestor set up on his behalf
  309. [2012-01-18 01:53:11] <sunnyside> No clue but does this line [Duke]"Yeah-good bit of stuff you've gathered up-Mayan Honeybee honeycomb, some solid Jaguar bits-might cover what you have left for your trip home. But what I'm wondering, see-is why you are here, when you already have that. And I get the feeling this question I should direct to your... multi-faceted friend here. So pardner: What brings you to these parts, this
  310. [2012-01-18 01:53:11] <sunnyside> time o-night?"
  311. [2012-01-18 01:53:29] <sunnyside> mean he saw our soul while it darkening was syill up
  312. [2012-01-18 01:53:34] <sunnyside> still*
  313. [2012-01-18 01:54:11] <BUTTZ> His sensing abilities are super good.
  314. [2012-01-18 01:56:49] <Arkeus> sunnyside: he could also be talking about SB
  315. [2012-01-18 01:57:01] <Arkeus> Or he could have seen our soul when at Granny's
  316. [2012-01-18 01:57:06] <Arkeus> or Granny's could have told him
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  318. [2012-01-18 01:58:26] <BUTTZ> Maybe he's Granny's spirit animal
  319. [2012-01-18 01:58:40] <Arkeus> huh
  320. [2012-01-18 02:00:13] <Arkeus> going to rest a couple of hours
  321. [2012-01-18 02:00:14] <Arkeus> later
  322. [2012-01-18 02:13:54] <Ironybot> Man, you guys played Mafia when I wasn't here? I used to love that game.
  323. [2012-01-18 02:14:21] <Ironybot> Played it constantly back in high school while nerding out about game theory and probability.
  324. [2012-01-18 02:16:55] <MrTT> I am still laughing at armas playing gay chicken... and losing
  325. [2012-01-18 02:21:41] <Arkeus> ;-)
  326. [2012-01-18 02:22:28] <Arkeus> a detail: maybe we should also try to determine what is the dreamer
  327. [2012-01-18 02:22:34] <Arkeus> i think we may have enough infor now
  328. [2012-01-18 02:36:21] <BUTTZ> I wonder how it would react to another song?
  329. [2012-01-18 02:36:23] <sunnyside> If we switch from open to stealth that might cut down the 75 seconds
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  332. [2012-01-18 02:50:28] <BUTTZ> "Hey /b/ im about to preform self surgeory on my right 2nd molar because its absessed and im cheap using a utility all purpouse kitchen knife any advice? (will post pics when as im doing it)"
  333. [2012-01-18 02:51:06] <Shifter19> ...
  334. [2012-01-18 02:51:11] <Shifter19> What.
  335. [2012-01-18 02:51:12] <BUTTZ> "can use pliers long story but i was in jail and broke part of the tooth off to try and get out(the jail releases people for medical problems if they didnt do anything serious, because they dont want to pay for it)... didnt work"
  336. [2012-01-18 02:52:16] <BUTTZ> http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/374964476
  337. [2012-01-18 02:52:45] <BUTTZ> "I am so glad that I live in Germany where there are public health insurance and not in America where the bum crack in the bone itself must sew"
  338. [2012-01-18 02:53:00] <BUTTZ> I don't know exactly what that German said
  339. [2012-01-18 02:53:04] <BUTTZ> But I agree with the sentiment
  340. [2012-01-18 02:53:43] <BUTTZ> http://tinyfail.com/self-dentistry
  341. [2012-01-18 02:54:55] <Shifter19> Ouch, sounds like a broken coccyx.
  342. [2012-01-18 02:55:36] <BUTTZ> Anonymule: Op you should have smashed the tooth with a hammer for being a bad tooth that let his abcess friend move into YOUR mouth
  343. [2012-01-18 02:55:44] <BUTTZ> Best quote out of the stupid chatroom
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  348. [2012-01-18 03:23:46] *Global* [Fuck All Religions] We at Rizon consider freedom from censorship one of our main core principles. Thanks to the RIAA/MPAA and associated, this freedom is currently under attack by the idiotic politicians in Washington. And don't get me started on the irony in their condeming China for the same thing they're trying to implement in America.
  349. [2012-01-18 03:23:57] *Global* [Fuck All Religions] See http://sopa.rizon.net/ for more details, or visit http://americancensorship.org/ directly.
  350. [2012-01-18 03:26:48] <CaptainButthead> http://images.4chan.org/gif/src/1326617990934.gif
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  354. [2012-01-18 04:10:01] <Arkeus> oi A_Mad_Oyster
  355. [2012-01-18 04:10:18] <Arkeus> And, MrTT, you are being quiet lately
  356. [2012-01-18 04:10:34] <A_Mad_Oyster> sup
  357. [2012-01-18 04:10:43] <A_Mad_Oyster> I don't like the New Rules :/
  358. [2012-01-18 04:10:54] <Arkeus> oh?
  359. [2012-01-18 04:11:28] <A_Mad_Oyster> For plans, it just seems too...much of a bother
  360. [2012-01-18 04:11:44] <Arkeus> It rewards people who makes real plans
  361. [2012-01-18 04:11:50] <Arkeus> Gee, i wonder why
  362. [2012-01-18 04:18:18] <Arkeus> This is like saying "i don't like that when you think about what to post for a couple of hours you get a bonus on your plan being used"
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  365. [2012-01-18 06:14:19] =-= DerpSphinx is now known as MysticSphinx
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  368. [2012-01-18 07:48:01] <Arkeus> hey ManOfTroy, MrTT, MysticSphinx, WaryObserver, Wutenheimer :-)
  369. [2012-01-18 07:48:18] <MysticSphinx> Hi Ark
  370. [2012-01-18 07:48:42] <Arkeus> Well, we now have ego-less++++ for both melee and range
  371. [2012-01-18 07:56:19] <MysticSphinx> huh, /quest/ seems to be down for me
  372. [2012-01-18 07:57:06] <Arkeus> same
  373. [2012-01-18 07:57:10] <Arkeus> read the update?
  374. [2012-01-18 08:04:35] <Arkeus> up
  375. [2012-01-18 08:04:48] <Arkeus> and you saw
  376. [2012-01-18 08:06:47] <MysticSphinx> Yeah, read it and posted
  377. [2012-01-18 08:07:19] <MysticSphinx> Really don't want to do the burn everything plan
  378. [2012-01-18 08:07:27] <Arkeus> need to sleep, i'll tell you what i find wrong with your post after
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  385. [2012-01-18 10:58:27] <Arky> well, back
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  389. [2012-01-18 11:00:25] <Arkeus> dammit bob scared me
  390. [2012-01-18 11:00:38] <Arkeus> i would have been seriously annoyed if MysticSphinx's plan was used
  391. [2012-01-18 11:02:07] <MysticSphinx> Hah
  392. [2012-01-18 11:02:19] <MysticSphinx> I have no intention for it to be used
  393. [2012-01-18 11:02:31] <MysticSphinx> Striaght anyway
  394. [2012-01-18 11:02:51] <Arkeus> yes, but bob made a false update
  395. [2012-01-18 11:02:53] <Arkeus> so, scared
  396. [2012-01-18 11:03:01] <MysticSphinx> he did?
  397. [2012-01-18 11:03:44] <Arkeus> refresh man
  398. [2012-01-18 11:03:51] <MysticSphinx> Got it
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  401. [2012-01-18 11:07:39] <MysticSphinx> Hmm, not sure how that happened
  402. [2012-01-18 11:08:06] <MysticSphinx> Anyway, you should be able to work something decent now, Ark
  403. [2012-01-18 11:08:22] <Arkeus> i alreeady had something decent worked out :p
  404. [2012-01-18 11:08:27] <Arkeus> was just exhausted
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  406. [2012-01-18 11:09:25] <MysticSphinx> I do like the forest burn as a "welp, that's all folks" last chance
  407. [2012-01-18 11:09:36] <MysticSphinx> Oh hi Bob
  408. [2012-01-18 11:09:39] <MysticSphinx> And thanks
  409. [2012-01-18 11:10:10] <Arkeus> hey bob
  410. [2012-01-18 11:10:10] <Bob> Yeah, I figure that a new system this... comprehensive would need some clarifying. If anything I typed didn't make sense, ask away.
  411. [2012-01-18 11:10:29] <Arkeus> am annoyed with you to say that before i can talk to mystic (oo exhausted to do it beforehand) :p
  412. [2012-01-18 11:10:41] <Arkeus> But, yeah, it probably needed clarifying
  413. [2012-01-18 11:11:02] <Arkeus> Also, we did talk about burning the forest last night- it was pointed out it's impossible. Too humid.
  414. [2012-01-18 11:11:13] <Arkeus> Maybe it could be done with Sake 'drying' the Area, but...
  415. [2012-01-18 11:11:52] <MysticSphinx> Ark, the humidity is only in parts, not universal, it is a rainforest, not a swamp
  416. [2012-01-18 11:12:30] <Bob> I didn't say they were WORKING plans, I merely presented a way they could be ordered properly for a new system
  417. [2012-01-18 11:12:33] <Arkeus> Well, i wouldn't know. Just saying it was pointed out the humidity was NOT in part
  418. [2012-01-18 11:13:10] <MysticSphinx> Well, the plans were off the top of my head anyway, so doesn't matter too much
  419. [2012-01-18 11:13:14] <Arkeus> Anyway Mystic, before i went to bed these were my ideas:
  420. [2012-01-18 11:15:49] <MysticSphinx> Yarsh?
  421. [2012-01-18 11:16:55] <Arkeus> 1: Primary is trying to talk to Duke about what exactly it means for him to be 'obligated to keep it safe and sounds for now'. Given what we learned of Duke, Old Granny, and the Dreamer, it seems some sort of contract was reached. The Dreamer being called 'it' and NOT being divine does make one sound it could itself be a mythic spirit animal that 'share' its quality around while sleeping,
  422. [2012-01-18 11:16:55] <Arkeus> btw. The important point here is whether granny and Duke's contract are with the Dreamer itself, or with someone else. Another important point is whether Duke is 'linked' to the territory. Hopefully he isn't a land god.
  423. [2012-01-18 11:17:22] <MrTT> best thing about school... is playing hooky
  424. [2012-01-18 11:17:35] <MysticSphinx> Dreamer ---> Elderthing
  425. [2012-01-18 11:17:43] <MysticSphinx> Bettingpool
  426. [2012-01-18 11:17:44] <MysticSphinx> Now
  427. [2012-01-18 11:17:55] <Arkeus> Mmmh, Elderthing isn't Divine per se, true
  428. [2012-01-18 11:18:08] <Arkeus> It would also make sense, somehow
  429. [2012-01-18 11:18:37] <MysticSphinx> How? we know meta speaking that Elderbeings are heavily involved with dreamscapes etc...
  430. [2012-01-18 11:19:20] <Arkeus> How what?
  431. [2012-01-18 11:19:27] <MysticSphinx> Duke being a land god would seem to make a bit of sense
  432. [2012-01-18 11:20:18] <Arkeus> A lot to me, yes. This is God War territory, after all.
  433. [2012-01-18 11:23:01] <Arkeus> 2: I have a bit of problem with 'trickery', as my 'trickery' part is basically wordplay and trying to trick Duke into giving his word when he shouldn't. I don't expect this to be possible unless some REALLY good dialog is offered.
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  435. [2012-01-18 11:25:35] <Arkeus> 3 For heavy handed, the first phase would be to ask hummingbird if he could dimnish the power of the shell as much as posible while still making it possible for Armas to stand and act normal. This could work as GGG training, too. Then, if it appears Duke has a genuine reason for WANTING the Dreamer ot stay asleep, and isn't going to be tricked, Armas should overamplify the bubble for a
  436. [2012-01-18 11:25:36] <Arkeus> couple of seconds where he gives a all-out attack against the dreamer, and then use Sake to fly out. If Duke is just contractually obligated to protect the Dreamer, but doesn't want to, and we can't find loophole, there should be no need to fly away either.
  437. [2012-01-18 11:26:50] <Arkeus> 4:Abandon ship, in this case, would be your 'burn' plan if possible with sake drying sutff around with wind, or else flying away with Sake's help. SB should be able to send a shadow far ahead and shadow port us this way much, much farther than previously possible, too.
  438. [2012-01-18 11:26:57] <Arkeus> and, gee, he isn't there
  439. [2012-01-18 11:28:04] <Arkeus> Mmmh
  440. [2012-01-18 11:28:18] <Arkeus> bob: would my 'heavy-handed' work out as trickery instead?
  441. [2012-01-18 11:28:44] <Arkeus> i mean, 'could it be'
  442. [2012-01-18 11:29:15] <Burrowed_Lurker> Might consider Duke's method of attack, they said he stands around and things die. If it's soul-based or some such then our bubble may serve a bit as armor
  443. [2012-01-18 11:30:21] <Arkeus> why do you think i said to overamplify the bubble?
  444. [2012-01-18 11:30:31] <Arkeus> when we go on the action, i mean
  445. [2012-01-18 11:30:53] <Burrowed_Lurker> ah k]
  446. [2012-01-18 11:32:55] <Bob> Arkeus, the first part, the lessoned bubble part, would definitely be trickster, not heavy handed-the followup OVERBOOST, however, would be heavy handed. Really, if a plan doesn't sound like the title you're trying to fit it in-bottom line something is wrong.
  447. [2012-01-18 11:33:02] <Bob> That rule should hopefully help.
  448. [2012-01-18 11:33:28] <Arkeus> Yeah, the lessened bubble part is just necessary for the heavy handed part :p
  449. [2012-01-18 11:34:07] <Arkeus> and the overamplification works in order to be able to survive a couple of seconds, hopefully, until Dreamer is awake
  450. [2012-01-18 11:34:13] <Arkeus> do we have any Spice? :p
  451. [2012-01-18 11:34:21] <Arkeus> itsaworm.png
  452. [2012-01-18 11:43:20] <Bob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU7Fomz7V3E
  453. [2012-01-18 11:43:21] <Classhole> Bob: Blades For The Zombie Apocalypse - length 3m 1s - rated 2.21/5.0 (43) - 2287 views - sniperofbuffalo on 2011.08.01
  454. [2012-01-18 11:43:22] <Bob> Oh god
  455. [2012-01-18 11:43:53] <Arkeus> i hate when i *think* i had good ideas before sleeping, but can't rmeember any
  456. [2012-01-18 11:45:47] <Arkeus> i want that shovel
  457. [2012-01-18 11:46:53] <WaryObserver> A blade in a zombie apocalypse. Wat
  458. [2012-01-18 11:47:15] <Bob> a 'COLD STEEL KATANA MY MOM SHARPENED' no less.
  459. [2012-01-18 11:47:20] <Arkeus> lol
  460. [2012-01-18 11:47:25] <Arkeus> that one made me smile
  461. [2012-01-18 11:47:40] <Arkeus> The guy doesn't seem awaare how frikking hard it is to fight with those
  462. [2012-01-18 11:51:45] <WaryObserver> He keeps saying "cut through heads"
  463. [2012-01-18 11:52:03] <Arkeus> he isn't thinking of the chicken zombies
  464. [2012-01-18 12:07:28] *Global* [Your GOD] We at Rizon consider freedom from censorship one of our main core principles. Thanks to the RIAA/MPAA and associated, this freedom is currently under attack by the idiotic politicians in Washington. And don't get me started on the irony in their condeming China (and other countries) for the same thing they're trying to implement in America.
  465. [2012-01-18 12:07:37] *Global* [Your GOD] See http://sopa.rizon.net/ for more details, or visit http://americancensorship.org/ directly.
  466. [2012-01-18 12:07:41] <Bob> My goodness, having superhearing while sick is strange
  467. [2012-01-18 12:08:32] <Arkeus> superhearing :D
  468. [2012-01-18 12:08:34] <WaryObserver> Tell us of your ear, O great Bobolith.
  469. [2012-01-18 12:12:38] <Bob> After some reading, did a double-dose of chemical ear treatments to each ear, after one chemical treatment merely improved the one water-logged ear. I now have perfectly unobstructed ear canals-and I can hear the heater's pilot light turn on from the second floor with music playing (softly, but still)
  470. [2012-01-18 12:12:42] <Bob> it's insane.
  471. [2012-01-18 12:13:33] <Arkeus> that.. sounds good
  472. [2012-01-18 12:14:50] <WaryObserver> What floor are you on, O great Bobolith?
  473. [2012-01-18 12:15:05] <Arkeus> -77
  474. [2012-01-18 12:16:43] <WaryObserver> 77 subterranian floors. And he can hear a pilot light on the second.
  475. [2012-01-18 12:16:48] <WaryObserver> My god
  476. [2012-01-18 12:16:59] <Arkeus> <_<
  477. [2012-01-18 12:20:09] <Bob> I am on the second floor, on the opposite side of the house
  478. [2012-01-18 12:20:16] <WaryObserver> Oh.
  479. [2012-01-18 12:20:23] <Arkeus> Bob: :-(
  480. [2012-01-18 12:20:54] <WaryObserver> That's not all that odd.
  481. [2012-01-18 12:21:24] <WaryObserver> Though, for you to note it, you must have some cuh-ray-z earwax problems
  482. [2012-01-18 12:22:18] <Bob> I pilot light, from forty feat away, which has to go through an insulated floor and three doors, that is heard over reasonably volumed music-that is NORMAL for you?
  483. [2012-01-18 12:22:31] <Bob> A pilot light, not I pilot light.
  484. [2012-01-18 12:22:32] <WaryObserver> Sadly so.
  485. [2012-01-18 12:22:51] <Arkeus> Bob: i have been wondering these past couple of days. As Armas has 5-6 Spirit Animal Slot, if he gets a mythic which fills all 5-6 slots, would that mythic be more 'effective' in some ways than if Armas had only 2 slots?
  486. [2012-01-18 12:23:20] <Bob> You... you grasp that an insulated wall drastically cuts down on audio transmission right? Have you ever interacted with sounds from the far side of an insulated wall that actually was DESIGNED to cut down on noise?
  487. [2012-01-18 12:23:23] <Arkeus> yeah, WaryObserver has crazy ears
  488. [2012-01-18 12:23:28] <Arkeus> or i have real bad ones too
  489. [2012-01-18 12:24:09] <Ironybot> Dude named himself after his own paranoia, of course he's got good ears. He spends all his time sitting around being wary and alert for any untoward noises.
  490. [2012-01-18 12:24:29] <Arkeus> Ironybot: ahahahahahaa
  491. [2012-01-18 12:24:39] <Arkeus> Ironybot: you saw bob's surprise post in gfh?
  492. [2012-01-18 12:24:49] <Ironybot> Yes.
  493. [2012-01-18 12:25:18] <Arkeus> do you feel like bouncing ideas a bit?
  494. [2012-01-18 12:25:44] <Bob> I should probably mention there is no vent in the room I'm in-so there is no sound passage for the pilot light. I purposefully have my computer here so I can run it hotter. Were you assuming that a vent for the noise to come through would be there?
  495. [2012-01-18 12:25:59] <WaryObserver> Nawp.
  496. [2012-01-18 12:26:18] <Ironybot> If you wish, but I'm only here for a short while. And I won't have much time this evening, so probably no post from me.
  497. [2012-01-18 12:26:32] <Bob> And... Acoustically/thermally insulated walls-you can hear things on the other side with louder, more proximal sounds without issue?
  498. [2012-01-18 12:26:35] <Ironybot> Thought we had something halfway decent worked out yesterday, anyway.
  499. [2012-01-18 12:27:21] <Arkeus> Iirc, we only had something like "try to understand his 'for now' and "sound and safe", and "try to trick him with words if we can't convince him to back off"
  500. [2012-01-18 12:28:08] <WaryObserver> This really bothers you, dunnit O great Bobolith?
  501. [2012-01-18 12:30:12] <Ironybot> Those are finicky specifics, not the key concepts. The key concept was 1) Work with Duke openly to reach a mutually beneficial arrangement. 2) Use knowledge gained from attempting 1 to attempt verbal loopholes and/or keep him tied up and distracted with blather while we prepare to strike the objective.
  502. [2012-01-18 12:30:22] <MrTT> why does 99% of those condemning SOPA and PIP refuse to admit the real reasons for those bills? They are pussyfooting the issue... they are attributing to stupidity and incompetence what is clearly an act of malice
  503. [2012-01-18 12:30:33] <MrTT> never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to malice
  504. [2012-01-18 12:30:45] <Ironybot> The saying is the other way around, you know.
  505. [2012-01-18 12:31:16] <Arkeus> yeah
  506. [2012-01-18 12:31:17] <MrTT> Hanlon was a moron
  507. [2012-01-18 12:31:18] <Bob> What bothers me is that it doesn't sound like you grasp how above the norm such hearing is.
  508. [2012-01-18 12:31:21] <MrTT> My way is more accurate
  509. [2012-01-18 12:31:49] <Bob> Sure it is MrTT
  510. [2012-01-18 12:31:52] <MrTT> Ironybot, Ark... I am not quoting hanlon I am using my own saying which is far more accurate then his
  511. [2012-01-18 12:31:56] <Ironybot> That said, it's not "malice" if the other party if simply working at cross-purposes with you. The senators don't actually want to fuck the populace, they just don't really care about doing so as collateral damage while accomplishing their objectives.
  512. [2012-01-18 12:32:26] <MrTT> It is malice if their true objectives are cross purpose to their stated objectives
  513. [2012-01-18 12:32:29] <Ironybot> Is simply working. Excuse me.
  514. [2012-01-18 12:32:30] <MrTT> they do want to fuck the populace
  515. [2012-01-18 12:32:42] <MrTT> because their real objectives is to fellate those who pay them
  516. [2012-01-18 12:32:49] <MrTT> whose true objective IS the destruction of the internet
  517. [2012-01-18 12:32:59] <MrTT> because it threatens their obsolete business models
  518. [2012-01-18 12:33:02] <Ironybot> No... secretly working towards something that goes contrary to your stated goals is not in fact "malice".
  519. [2012-01-18 12:33:14] <Arkeus> it's 'politic' :p
  520. [2012-01-18 12:33:55] <MrTT> SOPA has nothing to do with piracy, its meant to stop Netflix and Youtube and their ilk from being a threat to time warner / verizon cable and RIAA's plan of people going to the store to buy CDs and driving to brick and mortal store to buy Blu ray movies
  521. [2012-01-18 12:34:15] |<-- WaryObserver has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  522. [2012-01-18 12:34:22] <MrTT> Also beyond that, the true reason that senators are going with it is because it can be used for censorship of whatever they want
  523. [2012-01-18 12:34:30] <MrTT> anything they deem harmful, regardless of actual piracy
  524. [2012-01-18 12:34:38] <MrTT> piracy is the scapegoat... its like "for the children"
  525. [2012-01-18 12:34:53] <Bob> Your take on things is as ever entertaining MrTT
  526. [2012-01-18 12:34:53] <MrTT> "we need to abolish the right to freedom of speech, only way to protect the children"
  527. [2012-01-18 12:35:03] <MrTT> My take on things is clear headed and true
  528. [2012-01-18 12:35:30] <Bob> Keep up the stellar sarcasm.
  529. [2012-01-18 12:35:37] <Bob> It's much appreciated.
  530. [2012-01-18 12:36:06] <MrTT> The alternative is to believe they are not only stupid, but are stupid in an extremely coincidental manner and somehow blind and deaf to everyone who explains to them exactly why their STATED goals are not achieved
  531. [2012-01-18 12:36:12] <Ironybot> Anyway. Guns for Hire: Does Armas have any capability whatsoever to experiment with his chakra settings without screwing himself over?
  532. [2012-01-18 12:36:47] <MrTT> Fool me once shame on you, fool me so many times I lost count and maybe I am a gullible moron who should realize that you are a fucking liar and your stated goals do not match your real goals
  533. [2012-01-18 12:37:08] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i would say yes. i guess you mean currently, right?
  534. [2012-01-18 12:37:11] <Ironybot> We know that his stealth setting sends Shadowbro power with part of its energies, and Armas has been learning enough about shakra and what the hell he's doing that he might be able to break down what part of it does that- and sending Shadowbro 100% of his chakra energy could be useful.
  535. [2012-01-18 12:37:23] <Ironybot> Chakra. Cannot type. Argh.
  536. [2012-01-18 12:37:33] <Arkeus> i would say as long as he does it wlosly and have SB checking over where his energy is going (though Armas should be able to feel it too), it hsould be alright
  537. [2012-01-18 12:37:47] <Arkeus> After all, it works out as long as he doesn't focus his energy too much in just one part
  538. [2012-01-18 12:38:13] <Ironybot> Mostly the reason I look at this is that more energy might help Shadowbro do his bit faster, and the stealth setting is basically wasting half our power in this scenario.
  539. [2012-01-18 12:38:27] <Arkeus> Honestly, it feels to me that SB, with this shadow and the other one back at the mansion, should hve much more energy than Armas
  540. [2012-01-18 12:38:33] <Arkeus> he probably doesn't need the boost anymore
  541. [2012-01-18 12:38:40] <Ironybot> ...or any scenario. It sends Shadowbro energy when we need stealth and wastes power on stealth when what we need is to send Shadowbro energy.
  542. [2012-01-18 12:38:58] <Arkeus> But, yeah, we need a better stealth alignement
  543. [2012-01-18 12:39:07] <Ironybot> He isn't gaining energy from his new shadow yet, I think. Since it's not yet tamed.
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  545. [2012-01-18 12:39:24] <Arkeus> I think we could 'find' one by 'thinking of stealth moments', but it wuldn't be as effective as being taught one
  546. [2012-01-18 12:39:30] <Arkeus> Ironybot: 75 seconds
  547. [2012-01-18 12:39:32] <CaptainButthead> http://shirhashirim.wordpress.com/2008/02/12/square-kufic/
  548. [2012-01-18 12:39:41] <CaptainButthead> Dudes this stuff is on walls all over
  549. [2012-01-18 12:40:20] <Ironybot> Aside from that, Armas has a truly absurd amount of chakra energy output. I wouldn't be surprised if our chakra input to Shadowbro is a couple orders of magnitude larger than it once was, if we get a 100% Shadowbro power alignment.
  550. [2012-01-18 12:41:04] <Arkeus> oh indeed
  551. [2012-01-18 12:41:06] <Ironybot> And he was living on our original output, after we first made him. That's a lot of power to play with, even with two shadows and his own growing energy.
  552. [2012-01-18 12:41:10] <Arkeus> you didn't yet read the logs?
  553. [2012-01-18 12:41:15] <Arkeus> we talked about this a bit last night
  554. [2012-01-18 12:41:19] <Ironybot> I've read... most of them.;
  555. [2012-01-18 12:41:35] <Ironybot> Maybe 80%.
  556. [2012-01-18 12:41:41] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:30:28] <Arkeus> ABob: ok, do we get more energy from leaving our chakra 'open' for a week, or from eating a Erinyes heart?
  557. [2012-01-18 12:41:46] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:31:08] <ABob> am I to assume the chakras are open 24/7 for that time period, and are also not overcharged, but merely running at 'normal' open orientation?
  558. [2012-01-18 12:41:52] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:31:23] <Arkeus> ABob: yes
  559. [2012-01-18 12:41:57] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:31:42] <BUTTZ> Make clucking noises.
  560. [2012-01-18 12:41:57] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:31:52] <ABob> Then the Erinyes heart would be worth two months of saturation. The reason Open matters-is because it's not externally reliant
  561. [2012-01-18 12:41:58] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:31:55] <ABob> you can do it whenever.
  562. [2012-01-18 12:41:58] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:32:03] <ABob> whereas eating, you need something to, you know-eat.
  563. [2012-01-18 12:41:58] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:32:26] <Arkeus> S o i guess 'Open' is a good way to not get insane if we have nothing to eat
  564. [2012-01-18 12:41:59] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:32:46] <Arkeus> ABob: same question, but constantly overcharging 'open'
  565. [2012-01-18 12:41:59] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:33:53] <ABob> how overcharged? Give me a percentage, with 100% being the absolute most Armas could do-and also meaning he cannot use his winter line at all while so heavily overcharged.
  566. [2012-01-18 12:42:04] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:34:04] <Arkeus> 100%
  567. [2012-01-18 12:42:04] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:34:09] <ABob> Six days
  568. [2012-01-18 12:42:04] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:34:29] <WaryObserver> 50%?
  569. [2012-01-18 12:42:04] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:34:59] <ABob> A month, little more, little less, depends.
  570. [2012-01-18 12:42:23] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:35:07] <Arkeus> ABob: Is Armas' ability for 'overchanging' the same across all alignement, or does he gets bonus for reinforcement (as he used it most there)
  571. [2012-01-18 12:42:23] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:35:10] <ABob> It's only once you're using all you got that the returns really kick in.
  572. [2012-01-18 12:42:23] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:35:51] <ABob> He's more precise and controlled at overcharging-but he can't overcharge 'more' just because he's overcharged that one more than other orientations. Overcharge cap is reliant on your chakras and your energy reserves-not skill.
  573. [2012-01-18 12:42:24] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:36:21] <Arkeus> What is the effect of being more precise and controlled?
  574. [2012-01-18 12:42:24] <Arkeus> [17-01 | 23:38:00] <ABob> Reach a stable level at a given overcharge amount faster, more accurately switch percentages, that sort of thing.
  575. [2012-01-18 12:43:37] <Ironybot> Yes, that appears to be about three hours ahead of me in the logs.
  576. [2012-01-18 12:45:28] <CaptainButthead> Man I do not want to enter Kryppa Pekko mode in the Amazon
  577. [2012-01-18 12:45:34] <CaptainButthead> We will end up with a fish in our weiner
  578. [2012-01-18 12:46:36] <Ironybot> That really isn't anywhere near as bad as it would be for someone else.
  579. [2012-01-18 12:46:53] <Arkeus> heh
  580. [2012-01-18 12:46:57] <Bob> And Armas IS kinda looking for an excuse to get some new genitals-these ones are soiled with DEFEAT
  581. [2012-01-18 12:47:02] <Ironybot> I mean, if all else fails we can cut it off and grow it back. Possibly eating it with the fish inside, like a fishy corn dog.
  582. [2012-01-18 12:47:12] <Arkeus> my problem with Troll Penis mode is wasting Weasel Wine, honestly
  583. [2012-01-18 12:47:21] <Arkeus> Bob: ahahha
  584. [2012-01-18 12:47:41] <Ironybot> I think as long as we have any Weasel Wine left at all when we get the kameosa, our supplies go infinite.
  585. [2012-01-18 12:47:48] <Arkeus> Ironybot, CaptainButthead: odds of Duke being a land god?
  586. [2012-01-18 12:47:54] <Ironybot> So wasting it is not that large of a concern unless we're risking full depletion.
  587. [2012-01-18 12:48:14] <CaptainButthead> He's an actual Duke so he's got a Royal bloodline of some sort presumably
  588. [2012-01-18 12:48:19] <Ironybot> I don't think land gods are that concerned with noble titles, and he's an actual duke, do I'm going with... no.
  589. [2012-01-18 12:48:33] <Ironybot> Might be a Contractor or one, though.
  590. [2012-01-18 12:48:44] <Ironybot> For one.
  591. [2012-01-18 12:48:47] <Arkeus> Weren't there 'gods' called 'Duke' and so on
  592. [2012-01-18 12:48:56] <Arkeus> also, Land Gods are often gods that were killed
  593. [2012-01-18 12:49:02] <Ironybot> In what mythology?
  594. [2012-01-18 12:49:06] <Arkeus> in GfH?
  595. [2012-01-18 12:49:23] <Ironybot> That was to your first statement, not your second.
  596. [2012-01-18 12:49:29] *GeoServ* [T] Please excuse the brief Services outage. Consider it part of the possible future SOPA filtering :) Services should be returning shortly. For those with questions about what SOPA is, feel free to visit http://sopa.rizon.net and as always, thanks for flying with Rizon!
  597. [2012-01-18 12:49:44] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not sure, just that it rings a bell
  598. [2012-01-18 12:50:10] <Arkeus> though it's usually 'duke of hell' for demons and so on
  599. [2012-01-18 12:50:14] <Arkeus> less so for gods, maybe
  600. [2012-01-18 12:50:22] <CaptainButthead> He could be a descendant of Pedro II's line
  601. [2012-01-18 12:51:28] <CaptainButthead> Nah
  602. [2012-01-18 12:51:48] <CaptainButthead> Maybe he got the title through the Vatican
  603. [2012-01-18 12:51:51] <CaptainButthead> They give that out
  604. [2012-01-18 12:52:42] <Bob> Ding ding ding, VATICAN-BESTOWED DUCAL TITLE, and Buttz gets an internet cookie.
  605. [2012-01-18 12:53:13] <Ironybot> Speaking of titles... after we make Armas a double emperor, where are we going to get him a double kingdom to be emperor of?
  606. [2012-01-18 12:53:26] <Ironybot> Double empire, rather.
  607. [2012-01-18 12:53:54] <Arkeus> lol
  608. [2012-01-18 12:54:04] <Arkeus> one in Aztec/Japan, one in Turkey?
  609. [2012-01-18 12:54:05] <Ironybot> Got to have one, you know. Otherwise that title just doesn't hold water.
  610. [2012-01-18 12:54:26] <Bob> Make one kingdom the world itself.
  611. [2012-01-18 12:54:30] <Bob> That is, the world eye
  612. [2012-01-18 12:54:30] <Arkeus> hehehe
  613. [2012-01-18 12:54:34] <Ironybot> That could work.
  614. [2012-01-18 12:54:42] <Bob> No extradition treaty can hold you-everywhere is your land
  615. [2012-01-18 12:55:05] <Arkeus> Also, bob, it's a bit annoyeing whne you confirm thigns, because i am unsure if it means we can't use them in our posts
  616. [2012-01-18 12:55:08] <Ironybot> We could probably buy the title of "Emperor" from the Wyld Goblins, actually. Not the actual authority, they wouldn't sell that, but a figurehead title... maybe.
  617. [2012-01-18 12:55:23] <Arkeus> We don't need to, i would say
  618. [2012-01-18 12:55:40] <Ironybot> And then they'd never tell anyone that we were an emperor, for bonus points. We would be hidden emperor of two hidden empires.
  619. [2012-01-18 12:55:49] <CaptainButthead> "Emperor of this little fifty meter square of sewers under my old apartment"
  620. [2012-01-18 12:56:02] <Ironybot> No, that shit doesn't fly.
  621. [2012-01-18 12:56:19] <Ironybot> Got to have a worthy Empire. Otherwise you're a petty king, not an emperor.
  622. [2012-01-18 12:58:01] <Arkeus> goddamit, i hate it whne reborn is done before hxh
  623. [2012-01-18 12:59:45] <CaptainButthead> I wonder if the dreamer is light enough for Sake to lift?
  624. [2012-01-18 12:59:53] <CaptainButthead> If it is, Sake could just run off with it
  625. [2012-01-18 13:00:42] <CaptainButthead> Grab it, have SB shadowport them both away into the air, and then Sake flies even higher and drops it.
  626. [2012-01-18 13:00:50] <CaptainButthead> Then we shoot it on the way down and we're done
  627. [2012-01-18 13:01:43] <CaptainButthead> I doubt Duke can fly
  628. [2012-01-18 13:02:52] <Arkeus> Easier: SB, once free, sends one of his shadows to the dreamer, and teleport the Dreamer to us
  629. [2012-01-18 13:03:17] <Arkeus> OTOH, the dreamer is probably so magically potent it's not funny
  630. [2012-01-18 13:03:24] <Arkeus> so SB shouldn't be able to teleport it
  631. [2012-01-18 13:03:27] <Ironybot> We don't know how good Duke's senses are or what the range of his apparently-instantly-lethal abilities are.
  632. [2012-01-18 13:03:46] <Arkeus> I would say he didn't detect SB checking out the bodies
  633. [2012-01-18 13:04:14] <Ironybot> If we're relying on Shadowbro anyway, why not just have him stab the Dreamer to death himself?
  634. [2012-01-18 13:04:18] <Arkeus> I would also say that if we overamplify the soul shell, we can resist long enough for the dreamer to die
  635. [2012-01-18 13:04:18] <Ironybot> He's got a nice knife.
  636. [2012-01-18 13:04:24] <Arkeus> and then Duke presumably won't care
  637. [2012-01-18 13:04:31] <Arkeus> Ironybot: :-)
  638. [2012-01-18 13:06:24] <Ironybot> Upon reflection, there's a king of the goblins already. I don't know how seriously he or the goblins take his title, but I don't think we want to shoulder in on his turf. Although he might meet us at some point and decide we're funny enough to indulge.
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  640. [2012-01-18 13:07:01] <Ironybot> Anyway, need new empire prospects.
  641. [2012-01-18 13:07:19] <Arkeus> do empire need people in it?
  642. [2012-01-18 13:07:29] <Ironybot> Not necessarily, but it would help.
  643. [2012-01-18 13:08:35] <Ironybot> We could maybe get ourselves declared the Aztec Emperor, then if/when we leave for home hand over rulership to someone else "until I return", and call them stewards or some other title that basically means that we enter their myth as a permanent Emperor figure.
  644. [2012-01-18 13:09:06] <Ironybot> Not sure how well cross-dimensional Imperial status functions, but having an actual empire instead of a cheat of one would be damned nice
  645. [2012-01-18 13:09:51] <Arkeus> We could presumably get to be Shogun if we REALLY tried
  646. [2012-01-18 13:10:06] <Bob> 'My empires? Sure, they're large-one's the world, one's the Aztec empire. You probably haven't heard of them-their in different dimensions'
  647. [2012-01-18 13:10:10] <Bob> HIPSTER ARMAS
  648. [2012-01-18 13:10:23] <Ironybot> I don't think the Japanese would put up with enough of Armas' shit to let him be Shogun.
  649. [2012-01-18 13:10:30] =-= Bob is now known as ABob
  650. [2012-01-18 13:10:38] <CaptainButthead> Why stop at the Aztecs in the alternate dimension? Why not go for broke?
  651. [2012-01-18 13:10:44] <Arkeus> With good enough fleshcrafting, we might get accepted as japanese
  652. [2012-01-18 13:10:53] <Arkeus> And, well, why shouldn't they put up with it?
  653. [2012-01-18 13:10:57] <Ironybot> Looking foreign is SO not the problem.
  654. [2012-01-18 13:11:03] <Arkeus> being insane is eccentric if you are powerful
  655. [2012-01-18 13:11:17] <Arkeus> ABob: what does the A stands for?
  656. [2012-01-18 13:11:56] <ABob> It stands for 'Sometimes Mibbit doesn't like me being called Bob-and this is one of those times'
  657. [2012-01-18 13:12:31] <Arkeus> Asshole Mibbit Bob, huh
  658. [2012-01-18 13:12:36] <Ironybot> Look, in the Aztecs' empire Armas has a ready in to being accepted as a powerful, high-status, admired individual- everyone would put up with his shit because, crazy and trollish or not, he's a double godling who is a mighty champion of their side in war and is generally all-around badass.
  659. [2012-01-18 13:13:06] <Ironybot> In Japan, Armas... is a random troll guy with magic powers that plenty of other beings and people can match.
  660. [2012-01-18 13:13:07] <Arkeus> My problem with Aztec is mainly that i feel we will go full evil
  661. [2012-01-18 13:13:29] <Arkeus> And it's possible their magic is too specialized
  662. [2012-01-18 13:13:35] <Ironybot> Not talking about that right now, talking about Imperial status and its feasibility in each scenario.
  663. [2012-01-18 13:13:38] <Arkeus> Not sure they have much knoweldge of Soul either
  664. [2012-01-18 13:13:49] <Arkeus> Oh, then yes it's much more feasible for Aztec
  665. [2012-01-18 13:14:33] <Ironybot> Although I do have to question, if we go the Aztec route... why are we coming home?
  666. [2012-01-18 13:14:58] <Ironybot> I mean, we'd be an awesome Aztec ruler guy. That's pretty sweet.
  667. [2012-01-18 13:15:05] <Arkeus> Presumably for modern utilities
  668. [2012-01-18 13:15:06] <Arkeus> but, yes
  669. [2012-01-18 13:15:25] <Arkeus> It would possibly rid us of the Amen problem, too
  670. [2012-01-18 13:15:27] <Ironybot> Even if we don't actually take the ruling job, we'd still be like a duke/celebrity/all-around cool place.
  671. [2012-01-18 13:15:55] <Arkeus> i could see Armas deciding to go back 'the long way'
  672. [2012-01-18 13:16:58] <Ironybot> Or at least deciding to spend a couple decades hanging out soaking up Aztec lore. It's nothing that he hasn't done before, spending decades of subjective time on something.
  673. [2012-01-18 13:19:59] <CaptainButthead> That's another reason to drag a friend along
  674. [2012-01-18 13:20:10] <CaptainButthead> Less incentive to stay if they want to go home now
  675. [2012-01-18 13:20:19] <Ironybot> Also, Aztec emperor plan lets Armas use the phrase "And they made me their king" and have it ping truthfully.
  676. [2012-01-18 13:21:12] <CaptainButthead> Well time for lunch
  677. [2012-01-18 13:21:18] <Ironybot> An excellent addition to his arsenal of random shit to say, that.
  678. [2012-01-18 13:21:29] <Ironybot> Ah, yes. My lunch should probably be over by now.
  679. [2012-01-18 13:21:35] <Ironybot> Later, all.
  680. [2012-01-18 13:24:12] <ABob> A better thing to be able to truthfully say is 'and then I made their king my servant!'
  681. [2012-01-18 13:24:19] <Arkeus> lol
  682. [2012-01-18 13:24:23] <ABob> (anyone who gets the reference is awesome)
  683. [2012-01-18 13:24:30] <Arkeus> i don't :-(
  684. [2012-01-18 13:24:42] <ABob> ..Actually, I think it might have been a slave prince, not a slave king
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  686. [2012-01-18 13:25:27] <Arkeus> mmmh, should think about making a post sooner or later
  687. [2012-01-18 13:25:45] <Arkeus> Sorry about all of us posting so late last night bob
  688. [2012-01-18 13:25:52] <ABob> >http://www.cindyvallar.com/hornigold.html
  689. [2012-01-18 13:25:59] <ABob> >Pirate, Blackbeard's mentor
  690. [2012-01-18 13:26:07] <ABob> >Ended up with possibly the best armed ship of his time
  691. [2012-01-18 13:26:13] <ABob> >Pirating got so easy he got creative
  692. [2012-01-18 13:26:43] <ABob> >Among the things he did: commandeering a merchant ship just to take everyone's hats, since the night before they all got drunk and threw theirs in the water'
  693. [2012-01-18 13:26:48] <ABob> Are we SURE that's not Armas?
  694. [2012-01-18 13:27:16] <Arkeus> nop
  695. [2012-01-18 13:27:27] <Arkeus> We just need to get to that time
  696. [2012-01-18 13:27:31] <Arkeus> from Aztec to then
  697. [2012-01-18 13:27:38] <Arkeus> i mean, no one knws where he come from right?
  698. [2012-01-18 13:28:06] <ABob> This was not an isolated incident. Another time, a captured crew reported that Hornigold let them go having taken "only some rum, a little sugar, powder and shott."
  699. [2012-01-18 13:28:59] <ABob> He not only survived his pirate career and being deposed-but he then took a royal pardon and became a pirate hunter
  700. [2012-01-18 13:29:00] <ABob> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Hornigold#Pirate_hunter
  701. [2012-01-18 13:35:31] <ABob> William Dampier, that was his name
  702. [2012-01-18 13:36:27] <ABob> Science pirate that inspired Darwin, expanded the english language, and after sailing a ridiculous amount told his crew to eat a dick and marooned himself on an island near Thailand with nothing more than a shitty canoe.
  703. [2012-01-18 13:36:43] <ABob> Three years later he returned home, penniless, laden with shittons of journals....
  704. [2012-01-18 13:36:50] <ABob> Oh and a tattooed slave prince
  705. [2012-01-18 13:37:33] <Arkeus> lol
  706. [2012-01-18 13:38:28] <ABob> And subsequently made back all his fortune by writing a book about his exploits.
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  708. [2012-01-18 13:48:35] <Arkeus> ABob: please tell us how long Armas has worked on his 'veiled threat' soul guise?
  709. [2012-01-18 13:49:41] <ABob> In total? Probably about eight hours, give or take.
  710. [2012-01-18 13:50:01] <ABob> At one point, Hayreddin Barbarossa (Redbeard) single-handedly defeated the combined forces of Venice, the Vatican, Genoa, Spain, Portugal and Malta during the Battle of Preveza (1538).
  711. [2012-01-18 13:50:04] <Arkeus> That much? huh, i thoght at most 2 or 3
  712. [2012-01-18 13:50:55] <ABob> By single-handedly, I mean with his 122 ships.
  713. [2012-01-18 13:51:08] <Arkeus> ;-)
  714. [2012-01-18 13:53:31] <ABob> Redbeard: beats up five naval fleets at once, rapes a dragon for insulting his beard. Redbeard: don't fuck with him.
  715. [2012-01-18 14:02:59] <Arkeus> BB: idolizing blackbeard. poor guy
  716. [2012-01-18 14:09:24] =-= Captain-Lightning is now known as Ca____n-L________
  717. [2012-01-18 14:11:01] <ABob> SOPA strikes again.
  718. [2012-01-18 14:11:13] <Arkeus> urgh
  719. [2012-01-18 14:11:16] <Arkeus> details?
  720. [2012-01-18 14:12:03] <ABob> So, does anyone know of a game that's basically Shogun 2 or Rome or what have you-but the leader units can be played first person, and there's a fantasy element? The closest I've found is modded M&B.
  721. [2012-01-18 14:12:28] <ABob> I was referencing Lightning's new name.
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  723. [2012-01-18 14:28:48] <Arkeus> lol ABob
  724. [2012-01-18 14:43:00] <sunnyside> Hey how long has it been since the bubble was put up?
  725. [2012-01-18 14:44:45] <ABob> At this point, a little under a minute
  726. [2012-01-18 14:45:10] <Arkeus> zozm this drqin energy fqst
  727. [2012-01-18 14:45:27] <Arkeus> does it drqin energy thqt fqst becquse of the pressurem or zould it do so regqrdlessM
  728. [2012-01-18 14:45:37] <Arkeus> wow
  729. [2012-01-18 14:45:44] <Arkeus> damn keyboard switching to english
  730. [2012-01-18 14:46:10] <Arkeus> this drains energy fast: does it drain it that fast because of pressure, or would it do so at the same rate regardless?
  731. [2012-01-18 14:48:50] <ABob> it does that because you've made a very dense shell of compressed spiritual energy around your body. Please note this shell isn't physical-it's wholly spiritual, but has ramifications for the real world-kind of like how JJBA Stands work.
  732. [2012-01-18 14:49:15] <Arkeus> i don't think it has a neat power too? :p
  733. [2012-01-18 14:49:24] <Arkeus> 'the world'
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  735. [2012-01-18 14:56:51] <ABob> More like 'something attempts to hit you. Just before reaching you, it will act as if it'd hit an invisible barrier-or, say something chucks you at a wall-the barrier will start breaking the wall before you actually make personal contact with it.
  736. [2012-01-18 14:57:04] <ABob> I need to stop starting quotes I don't end.
  737. [2012-01-18 14:58:52] <Arkeus> qhqh
  738. [2012-01-18 14:58:55] <Arkeus> ahah
  739. [2012-01-18 14:59:27] <Arkeus> ABob. i knew what you meant. i was joking
  740. [2012-01-18 15:00:30] <ABob> the french form of laughter: qah qah!
  741. [2012-01-18 15:00:40] <Arkeus> heh
  742. [2012-01-18 15:02:25] <ABob> This also makes me see Frenchman as ducks quacking away. Not sure about that bit.
  743. [2012-01-18 15:03:22] <Arkeus> i am trying to play a game, but it puts me in french/english keyboard mix
  744. [2012-01-18 15:03:29] <Arkeus> which means it's damn unwieldly
  745. [2012-01-18 15:04:44] <Arkeus> anywayyyyyyyyy
  746. [2012-01-18 15:05:04] <Arkeus> <Arkeus> Bob: i have been wondering these past couple of days. As Armas has 5-6 Spirit Animal Slot, if he gets a mythic which fills all 5-6 slots, would that mythic be more 'effective' in some ways than if Armas had only 2 slots?
  747. [2012-01-18 15:07:10] <ABob> This may help clarify things: For spirit animals, the rules on soul size are more or less the same as shadow souls: In that they have a hard cap to soul volume based on that which they're tethered to. Unlike shadowsouls, spirit animals are based on the soul volume of the owner when bound to the soul, based on their size when bound to the body....
  748. [2012-01-18 15:07:24] <ABob> based on willpower where anchored to the mind-which is the rarest anchoring format
  749. [2012-01-18 15:07:39] <ABob> and based on the quality of the vessel if placed in a charm or otherwise magical reliquary.
  750. [2012-01-18 15:08:16] <ABob> So, spirit animals have a variable cap depending on WHAT they are anchored to-while Shadow souls, which are always anchored to their creator, are always the one thing.
  751. [2012-01-18 15:10:13] <ABob> Now, where this matters is only when soul sculpting spirit animals, since they don't grow on their own. But it's still important to know.
  752. [2012-01-18 15:10:31] <ABob> So, all the way back to your question-yes, the mythic COULD be more effective, but it'd have to get to that point.
  753. [2012-01-18 15:11:09] <Arkeus> So the mythic would 'still' get all the slots, but even then we would have to 'work' to get it to 'use' all of them?
  754. [2012-01-18 15:12:24] <Arkeus> Also, another clarification: " based on their size when bound to the body...." <= this is soul size, correct?
  755. [2012-01-18 15:12:52] <ManOfTroyClone> Or can we get millions of birds and other small animals?
  756. [2012-01-18 15:13:21] <Arkeus> ManOfTroyClone: we apprarently cvan get 5-6 spirit animals, or so i heard yesterday
  757. [2012-01-18 15:13:37] <ManOfTroyClone> Well, I just read that, but right now I'm watching Modern Watson.
  758. [2012-01-18 15:13:37] <ABob> Nah, Spirit Animals auto-tier themselves to fit in certain sizes-one of the few examples of inbuilt order within a magical system, no matter the approach system for this particular act.
  759. [2012-01-18 15:13:47] <ManOfTroyClone> Sory, Modern Sherlock
  760. [2012-01-18 15:14:37] <Arkeus> <ABob> Nah, Spirit Animals auto-tier themselves to fit in certain sizes-one of the few examples of inbuilt order within a magical system, no matter the approach system for this particular act. <= can you give an example of auto-tiering? not sure i understand.
  761. [2012-01-18 15:14:46] <ABob> No Arkeus, since I was talking about the body, after soul, and before mind (remember that Mind/Body/Soul thing) I was actually talking about the size of the spirit animal owner's physical body being the 'cap' for any spirit animal bound to-the body.
  762. [2012-01-18 15:15:02] <Arkeus> Good
  763. [2012-01-18 15:15:50] <Arkeus> I was wondering if you were, but my brain farted a second, and i then thought of BC being able to have more spirit animals and forgot you were talking about the spirit animal's cap, not the number of slot's cap
  764. [2012-01-18 15:16:11] <ABob> Basically, fractional use of power is a no-no. If a spirit uses 2.31 souljoules, to arbitrarily make up a term you're retarded if you think is official and not just for the sake of example, then it 'auto-tiers' to 5, as do 1.81 or 4.98.
  765. [2012-01-18 15:16:52] <Arkeus> that is for a mythic, right?
  766. [2012-01-18 15:16:57] <ABob> Yeah Arkeus, that thing Ironybot told you to do, thinking things out and seeing if you can feel confident you've solved them BEFORE asking me? Doing that would improve your ability to craft plans and not misinterpret the setting, as you'd get feedback on which lines of reasoning fit.
  767. [2012-01-18 15:17:23] <ABob> I mean, I'm happy to answer questions, but sometimes I honestly feel like you didn't even consider the question before asking me.
  768. [2012-01-18 15:17:45] <ManOfTroyClone> ...How much shit can happen with 1.21 Gigasouljoules?
  769. [2012-01-18 15:18:01] <Arkeus> True enough, sometimes i just wonder at the question without actually trying to solve it myself at all
  770. [2012-01-18 15:18:03] * ABob now permanently labels Troy in all his iterations retarded.
  771. [2012-01-18 15:18:22] <ABob> Yeah, that's something of a pet peeve for me, and I'd really appreciate it if you tried to think it out first.
  772. [2012-01-18 15:18:34] <ManOfTroyClone> Aw, I thought it would be serious shit. Or is that 88 miles per soul hours?
  773. [2012-01-18 15:19:04] <ABob> >arbitrarily made up a term you're retarded for thinking is official and not just for the sake of example
  774. [2012-01-18 15:19:04] * Arkeus whaps the cline
  775. [2012-01-18 15:19:05] <Arkeus> clone
  776. [2012-01-18 15:19:36] <ManOfTroyClone> Sorry, I had to ask the Back to the Future joke when it comes to Soul Joules.
  777. [2012-01-18 15:21:01] <ABob> It's not even relevant. I didn't say giga OR watts. You just reached unnecessarily for a reference joke, and by reaching so far you fully exited comedy and merely entered random.
  778. [2012-01-18 15:21:04] <Arkeus> ABob: so this means that as long as it's a mythic, it auto-adjust to take ALL the slots, unless the soul is REALLY funky like MArrku's, and even then it is unknown if it's because it's so big, or if it's because of a certain quality that 'undo' this order...
  779. [2012-01-18 15:21:29] <ManOfTroyClone> Ah, forgive me Bob.
  780. [2012-01-18 15:21:55] <ABob> If I had said either, the reference would have worked perfectly-but come on, you can't overreach for jokes-that's like going full retard. You just don't do it.
  781. [2012-01-18 15:23:01] * Arkeus now wants Hummingbird to eat the Dreamer's delicious soul
  782. [2012-01-18 15:23:05] <Arkeus> <-<
  783. [2012-01-18 15:23:57] <ABob> Since it seems you finished your thought there: Yes, your postulation's on the mark.
  784. [2012-01-18 15:24:30] <ABob> Thought I'm curious how the non-bloodlined, non-cannibalistic, non flesh-manipulating living spirit animal will consume another soul
  785. [2012-01-18 15:24:38] <ManOfTroyClone> I really need to stop overreaching my jokes.
  786. [2012-01-18 15:26:21] <Arkeus> Can't it use Armas' bloodline?
  787. [2012-01-18 15:28:09] <Arkeus> i was also postulating it was possible the ramer was somehow 'dispersing' his own soul around with the attention pulses, and that was why animals had remnants of souls illusions
  788. [2012-01-18 15:28:11] <ABob> Only his winter line, which is anchored in his soul, which in turn the bird is anchored to. It has no connection to his summer line.
  789. [2012-01-18 15:28:12] <Burrowed_Lurker> Why would it be able to use Armas' bloodline directly? I didn't think the soul-animal connection was that close
  790. [2012-01-18 15:28:17] <Arkeus> So maybe Hummingbird could 'take' some
  791. [2012-01-18 15:28:25] <Burrowed_Lurker> ah cool
  792. [2012-01-18 15:28:40] <Arkeus> after all, it's a free gift from Dreamer!
  793. [2012-01-18 15:33:15] <Arkeus> If we had more winter energy left, i would try to have the hummingbird cleave a part of the Dreamer's soul off, and take it into our eye, then do the same for the hummingbird
  794. [2012-01-18 15:33:27] <Arkeus> I am thinking Whaitiri could help the hummingbird eat it
  795. [2012-01-18 15:33:38] <Arkeus> How to present this to him, however....
  796. [2012-01-18 15:39:26] <torac> I just read that hummingbirds have to eat about every 10 minutes. However it seems this does no longer apply to humminbro, as that would have been noted somewhere, I assume?
  797. [2012-01-18 15:45:36] <ABob> He's been getting by on shittons of 'warrior's vigor and vim'
  798. [2012-01-18 15:46:18] <Arkeus> That's how Hummingbird calls our bloodline iirc?
  799. [2012-01-18 15:46:25] <torac> ah, he uses soulenergy instead of sugar
  800. [2012-01-18 15:47:13] <ABob> He still likes sugar plenty though
  801. [2012-01-18 15:47:15] <torac> could he still eat normaly and use the additional energy for other things
  802. [2012-01-18 15:47:28] <torac> ?
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  804. [2012-01-18 15:48:35] <Arkeus> http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/01/the-great-fallout-legal-battle-ends-without-a-fallout-mmo/
  805. [2012-01-18 15:49:30] <torac> What do hummingbirds need to be able to fly upside down for?
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  807. [2012-01-18 15:49:40] <torac> Beside it being cool.
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  818. [2012-01-18 16:30:12] <Arkeus> <Chiri> There’s enough of a market for train groping fantasies that Tokyo has multiple brothels with fake train cars where the prostitutes act like innocent commuters. <= ........
  819. [2012-01-18 16:30:45] <MysticSphinx> ...
  820. [2012-01-18 16:30:53] <MysticSphinx> D:
  821. [2012-01-18 16:31:13] <MysticSphinx> This isn't really even remotely the worst though
  822. [2012-01-18 16:31:38] <MysticSphinx> Positively tame by their standards
  823. [2012-01-18 16:32:13] <Al3ph> JAPAN!
  824. [2012-01-18 16:32:27] <Al3ph> Honestly, Japan is just weird.
  825. [2012-01-18 16:33:50] <MysticSphinx> Just?
  826. [2012-01-18 16:34:37] <MysticSphinx> Words do not do justice to the madness there!
  827. [2012-01-18 16:38:50] <Al3ph> Well, it still is 'just weird'.
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  831. [2012-01-18 16:56:40] <Grail> Chugging away on the Amen page.
  832. [2012-01-18 16:57:27] <ABob> Have fun with that.
  833. [2012-01-18 16:58:04] <Arkeus> urgh, should post soon
  834. [2012-01-18 16:58:05] <Grail> Probably be done with thread two before you update tonight
  835. [2012-01-18 16:58:24] <Arkeus> Grail: you saw bob's post in gfh?
  836. [2012-01-18 16:58:48] <Grail> Yes
  837. [2012-01-18 16:59:01] <ABob> I hope it clarified how the new format's supposed to work.
  838. [2012-01-18 16:59:09] <ABob> or at least granted some clarity, at least.
  839. [2012-01-18 17:00:17] <Sanity_Flake> Ah, you're still working hard on the wiki...
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  841. [2012-01-18 17:03:36] <Grail> Unlike some people I could name
  842. [2012-01-18 17:05:05] <Arkeus> *cough cough*
  843. [2012-01-18 17:05:38] <Grail> I'm going to develop the ability to induce massive amounts of guilt in people one day.
  844. [2012-01-18 17:07:01] <Sanity_Flake> I feel bad that I promised myself to update the wiki, and what I've done seems like nothing compared to yours...
  845. [2012-01-18 17:08:45] <Grail> You need a project
  846. [2012-01-18 17:08:53] <Grail> Pick some section of the wiki
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  849. [2012-01-18 17:21:01] <ManAsleep> So.
  850. [2012-01-18 17:21:06] <ManAsleep> Who's seen American Badass?
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  855. [2012-01-18 17:58:08] <Sanity_Flake> If we fail to wake the Dreamer in a week Ogrimmir gets our soul, right?
  856. [2012-01-18 17:58:41] <Arkeus> It's a trial run, so no
  857. [2012-01-18 17:58:50] <Arkeus> but that was the plan if bob hadn't messed up
  858. [2012-01-18 17:59:10] <Sanity_Flake> And by 'messed up' you mean...?
  859. [2012-01-18 17:59:30] <TactfulWatcher> Forgot to put the clause in.
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  864. [2012-01-18 18:21:13] <ABob> Wutenheimer, stream?
  865. [2012-01-18 18:21:28] <ABob> I actually kinda want to watch you die miserably in games.
  866. [2012-01-18 18:21:49] <Wutenheimer> sorry, am busy munchkining dnd books
  867. [2012-01-18 18:21:58] <Wutenheimer> i can stream shows if you want though
  868. [2012-01-18 18:23:00] <ABob> same shows as before, or any new acquisitions?
  869. [2012-01-18 18:23:12] <ABob> Because I'm still hankering for a group katanagatari, but we'll see.
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  871. [2012-01-18 18:27:47] <Wutenheimer> unfortunately not
  872. [2012-01-18 18:27:59] <Wutenheimer> i did finish downloading tombstone and 12 angry men though
  873. [2012-01-18 18:28:06] <Wutenheimer> i'll have to add those to the list sometime
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  876. [2012-01-18 18:30:33] <Arkeus> Well, posted
  877. [2012-01-18 18:30:42] <Wutenheimer> wait, is tim around?
  878. [2012-01-18 18:30:57] <Arkeus> not anymore it seems
  879. [2012-01-18 18:31:06] <Wutenheimer> we could watch gurren lagann
  880. [2012-01-18 18:31:07] <Wutenheimer> damni
  881. [2012-01-18 18:31:09] <Wutenheimer> t
  882. [2012-01-18 18:32:35] <Ralith> wait
  883. [2012-01-18 18:32:38] <Ralith> we only have to *wake* the dreamer?
  884. [2012-01-18 18:32:44] <Sanity_Flake> yep
  885. [2012-01-18 18:34:06] <Arkeus> yeah
  886. [2012-01-18 18:35:15] <Ralith> that doesn't really seem to be in conflict with it being "safe and sound"
  887. [2012-01-18 18:35:54] <Ralith> oh good people have posted to that effect
  888. [2012-01-18 18:36:22] <Arkeus> the problem is the only way we know to wake him up is to slay it
  889. [2012-01-18 18:36:34] <Arkeus> if you can think of another way, feel free
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  891. [2012-01-18 18:56:42] <ManAsleep> 'A Game of Gay CHicken'.
  892. [2012-01-18 18:56:46] <ManAsleep> Hahaha.
  893. [2012-01-18 19:06:00] <ABob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNG9gSJKbAo&feature=relmfu
  894. [2012-01-18 19:06:01] <Classhole> ABob: hotel crazyness... - length 1m 19s - rated 4.97/5.0 (9572) - 736691 views - freedomworksfilms on 2008.12.12
  895. [2012-01-18 19:06:17] <ABob> Armas needs to learn something he can do with his whistling for when he's bored.
  896. [2012-01-18 19:06:29] <ABob> I mean, look at this guy-great way to spend time bored.
  897. [2012-01-18 19:07:48] <Arkeus> still want to find a way to use whistling with chakra
  898. [2012-01-18 19:08:22] <Sanity_Flake> We still need to make Armas whistle that Seven-Gates related song for chakra boost
  899. [2012-01-18 19:08:51] <Sanity_Flake> Hmmm, I wonder if there's any techniques in Avery's book that are related to whistling
  900. [2012-01-18 19:09:37] <ManAsleep> Seven Gates, Whistling.
  901. [2012-01-18 19:09:46] <ManAsleep> I love it that's a russian insult.
  902. [2012-01-18 19:10:19] <Grail> We should ask BC about whistling dixie.
  903. [2012-01-18 19:12:06] =-= ManAsleep is now known as ManOfTroy
  904. [2012-01-18 19:12:36] <ManOfTroy> Is there a way to not whistle Dixie?
  905. [2012-01-18 19:12:47] <Grail> And I vaguely recall there being a bonus for Armas finding a commonality between LINE and what Armas knows of Maori martial styles.
  906. [2012-01-18 19:12:59] <Grail> For an instant bonus of some sort.
  907. [2012-01-18 19:13:23] <Grail> In the logs a long while ago.
  908. [2012-01-18 19:13:40] <ManOfTroy> Still offered, though?
  909. [2012-01-18 19:13:49] <Arkeus> that was switched to Armas learning about that island
  910. [2012-01-18 19:13:55] <Grail> Dunno, ask Bob, I just remembered it
  911. [2012-01-18 19:14:05] <Arkeus> where there is the styles that the 'dances' are based for
  912. [2012-01-18 19:14:11] <Arkeus> this death-style chakra stuff
  913. [2012-01-18 19:15:27] <Grail> Are you sure on the word switched?
  914. [2012-01-18 19:15:54] <Grail> Because this was something from around a month and a half ago, mentioned once and never responded to again.
  915. [2012-01-18 19:17:09] <Arkeus> wait wait
  916. [2012-01-18 19:17:19] <Arkeus> right, but that's something else
  917. [2012-01-18 19:17:25] <Arkeus> this was for melee hand to hand stuff
  918. [2012-01-18 19:18:09] <Arkeus> Bob mentionning that having another spar with Camella, but this time for melee hth, could help us unify our hth the same way we unified out sweapons
  919. [2012-01-18 19:18:22] <Arkeus> And having it would REALLY help in order to get a lvl5 combat trait
  920. [2012-01-18 19:18:23] <Grail> Different thing entirely
  921. [2012-01-18 19:19:03] <Arkeus> If you say so.
  922. [2012-01-18 19:19:38] <Grail> I do, I'm just going to look for the quote.
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  924. [2012-01-18 19:26:03] <guile> what up, G's?
  925. [2012-01-18 19:26:17] <guile> The G stands for Golemgents, of course. Maybe that should be GG's.
  926. [2012-01-18 19:26:21] <guile> But that sounds weird.
  927. [2012-01-18 19:27:00] <Arkeus> Grail and Guiles are up, at least
  928. [2012-01-18 19:28:53] <Grail> 21:15 Wutenheimer speaking of, somewhere in the world there is 1 df 21:15 Wutenheimer and it is the most insanely deadly thing in the universe 21:15 Wutenheimer to have survived this long\
  929. [2012-01-18 19:28:55] <ManOfTroy> Why would guile be talking to himself?
  930. [2012-01-18 19:29:11] <Grail> 21:16 TheBeardiestBob It is atop the subterranean lake Vostek 21:16 Wutenheimer tmi, a loaf and a slice of dwaven battle bread are one and the same 21:16 TheBeardiestBob but yes, there is such a mythic dorf fort 21:17 TheBeardiestBob And the lake itself hosts that which created the Bloop AND the Hum. 21:17 TheBeardiestBob have fun with thinking THAT one over
  931. [2012-01-18 19:29:28] <Grail> ...There are dwarves living near the amoeba.
  932. [2012-01-18 19:30:15] <Wutenheimer> and they kick ass
  933. [2012-01-18 19:33:02] <ABob> Hyper-isolationists that attack any non-dwarves, no less.
  934. [2012-01-18 19:33:06] <ABob> And yet there they are
  935. [2012-01-18 19:33:09] <ABob> still alive
  936. [2012-01-18 19:33:23] <ManOfTroy> ...My god, Dwarves live near that thing?
  937. [2012-01-18 19:33:31] <ManOfTroy> those are hard-as-fuck dwarves.
  938. [2012-01-18 19:34:06] <Grail> Their existence almost makes up for not meeting any dwarves yet
  939. [2012-01-18 19:34:50] <Sanity_Flake> The amoebas were responsible for the Bloops and the Hum?
  940. [2012-01-18 19:35:06] <Wutenheimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC55OSXubKk
  941. [2012-01-18 19:35:07] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: Motherfucking Bootleg Fireworks!!!! - length 1m 0s - rated 4.95/5.0 (315) - 49115 views - MrTheVidster on 2011.09.14
  942. [2012-01-18 19:37:41] <ABob> Yeah, these hyper isolationist dwarves have the most advanced, similarly isolated magical civilization as the teeth to their moat.
  943. [2012-01-18 19:39:19] <Arkeus> they are aware?
  944. [2012-01-18 19:39:36] <Grail> We need to stick the new posting rules somewhere
  945. [2012-01-18 19:40:48] <Sanity_Flake> No one's aware of the Amoebas
  946. [2012-01-18 19:40:56] <Sanity_Flake> And the amoebas aren't aware of the outside world either
  947. [2012-01-18 19:41:10] <Sanity_Flake> We have the chance to make first contact...
  948. [2012-01-18 19:41:48] <Grail> SUST is in our traits
  949. [2012-01-18 19:41:59] <Grail> But we should collect it and Armas' LIST ability somewhere with this new one
  950. [2012-01-18 19:42:09] <Grail> So Bob can link it in the header.
  951. [2012-01-18 19:42:32] <ManOfTroy> We should.
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  954. [2012-01-18 19:50:00] <ManOfTroy> Question, but has Duke -mentioned- the dream?
  955. [2012-01-18 19:50:02] <ManOfTroy> dreamer?
  956. [2012-01-18 19:50:11] <guile> not by name
  957. [2012-01-18 19:50:20] <guile> or rather, title
  958. [2012-01-18 19:50:51] <ManOfTroy> Right, adding a SUST for mentioning the dreamer.
  959. [2012-01-18 19:51:14] <Arkeus> did we mention it?
  960. [2012-01-18 19:51:17] <guile> nice fireworks, Wut
  961. [2012-01-18 19:51:29] <ManOfTroy> No, we didn't.
  962. [2012-01-18 19:51:38] <guile> I said that too
  963. [2012-01-18 19:51:51] <guile> doesnt hurt to double up, though
  964. [2012-01-18 19:52:05] <Arkeus> i STRONLY disagree on going away guile
  965. [2012-01-18 19:52:11] <Arkeus> it's winter energy we are using
  966. [2012-01-18 19:52:17] <ManOfTroy> So, as I'm thinking - and deleted a post because I need to make it fit the new setup - there is NO reason we shoudl think he's talking about the Dreamer and use -that- to get him to talk.
  967. [2012-01-18 19:52:21] <Arkeus> we aren't going to get more before a night's sleep
  968. [2012-01-18 19:52:36] <Arkeus> when we used maybe half of it getting there, going away seems like a real waste
  969. [2012-01-18 19:53:03] <Arkeus> ManOfTroy: is there a reason we should think he is NIOT talking about thez dreamer?
  970. [2012-01-18 19:53:14] <Arkeus> Armas found it, and he thinks that we have found somethign he knows
  971. [2012-01-18 19:53:50] <guile> and spending minutes talking to Duke while continuously burning soul power is a good idea?
  972. [2012-01-18 19:53:58] <ManOfTroy> Because if we beleive that he's not, he has to tell us, doesn't it?
  973. [2012-01-18 19:54:06] <guile> Dreamer knows when people are talking about
  974. [2012-01-18 19:54:15] <Arkeus> guile: much better yes
  975. [2012-01-18 19:54:23] <Arkeus> simply going away is going to burn the soul power
  976. [2012-01-18 19:54:24] <ManOfTroy> Also, that and the fact that, if we're -actually- after different things, woo.
  977. [2012-01-18 19:54:34] <Arkeus> <guile> Dreamer knows when people are talking about <= nah
  978. [2012-01-18 19:54:39] <Arkeus> Dreamer knows when distant people
  979. [2012-01-18 19:54:41] <Arkeus> not near
  980. [2012-01-18 19:56:44] <GoateeWuten> you know whats really annoying
  981. [2012-01-18 19:56:56] <GoateeWuten> people who say casual all the time
  982. [2012-01-18 19:56:57] <ABob> 3>Name a franchise/developer switchup you think would work better than Rockstar doing the Elder Scrolls.
  983. [2012-01-18 19:57:02] <GoateeWuten> as if it means something
  984. [2012-01-18 19:57:09] <ABob> Well this is an interesting question.
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  986. [2012-01-18 19:57:21] <GoateeWuten> how about... anything
  987. [2012-01-18 19:57:26] <GoateeWuten> fuck rockstar
  988. [2012-01-18 19:58:20] <ABob> Why?
  989. [2012-01-18 19:59:30] <Grail> Whoever did condemned
  990. [2012-01-18 19:59:47] <Grail> They have brutal combat with hobos down
  991. [2012-01-18 20:00:37] <ABob> So what, Monolith doing GTA?
  992. [2012-01-18 20:00:46] <Grail> Yes.
  993. [2012-01-18 20:00:52] <Grail> Somewhere along the line I mixed up the question
  994. [2012-01-18 20:01:00] <Grail> But that sounds awesome doesn't it?
  995. [2012-01-18 20:01:23] <ABob> Hm. I could get behind that
  996. [2012-01-18 20:01:32] <Grail> [02:09] <TheBeardiestBob> salt is useful against many supernatural things and involved in some magic-less low level wards
  997. [2012-01-18 20:01:42] <Grail> Jesus how did we forget this?
  998. [2012-01-18 20:01:47] <Grail> Salt and chocolate.
  999. [2012-01-18 20:02:18] <Grail> We need someone to just carry around a bunch in their pockets.
  1000. [2012-01-18 20:03:19] <ManOfTroy> And rum.
  1001. [2012-01-18 20:03:22] <ManOfTroy> And blood.
  1002. [2012-01-18 20:03:55] <Grail> What mythical creature doesn't like blood?
  1003. [2012-01-18 20:04:14] <ManOfTroy> None, i think. But the ususal stuff is salt, chocolate, rum and blood.
  1004. [2012-01-18 20:08:31] <guile> Ark - you really think Dreamer can tell when people on the other side of the world are talking about it, but not a pair of dudes 700ft away?
  1005. [2012-01-18 20:08:44] <Arkeus> guile: that's flat out stated, so yes
  1006. [2012-01-18 20:08:58] =-= Ca____n-L________ is now known as Captain-Lightning
  1007. [2012-01-18 20:09:09] <Arkeus> >[Ogrimir]"The Dreamer is able to feel distant, but not proximal, thoughts concerning its existence. This was the only way to allow you to bypass it's watch."
  1008. [2012-01-18 20:09:16] <guile> weird
  1009. [2012-01-18 20:09:33] <Grail> I really want to fight a giant slug
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  1011. [2012-01-18 20:10:15] <Grail> And pour salt on it.
  1012. [2012-01-18 20:12:50] <ManOfTroy> We should do that to doony
  1013. [2012-01-18 20:13:24] <Sanity_Flake> Rubbing salt on your wounds, Doony, salt on yo wounds!
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  1015. [2012-01-18 20:16:01] =-= Captain-Lightning is now known as Bushigidane
  1016. [2012-01-18 20:16:25] =-= Bushigidane is now known as Captain-Lightning
  1017. [2012-01-18 20:17:53] <Grail> An odd thought
  1018. [2012-01-18 20:18:20] <Grail> I bet certain vampires abduct their favorite artists and musicians before they die and keep them ghouled up and preforming.
  1019. [2012-01-18 20:19:02] <ABob> Indeed.
  1020. [2012-01-18 20:19:13] <Arkeus> why only ghouled?
  1021. [2012-01-18 20:19:47] <guile> Honestly? This I could get behind. Vampire Mozart, Beethoven and Tupac would make beautiful music together
  1022. [2012-01-18 20:20:39] <Arkeus> i could see them being sires
  1023. [2012-01-18 20:22:53] <Grail> There's no need to make them a vampire really. A ghoul in most fantasy can life extremely long lives and is generally physically better in most ways. The main thing though, is that they would both retain more humanity, which is probably something substantial when it comes to art, and they're addicted to the blood.
  1024. [2012-01-18 20:24:12] <ManOfTroy> So...Mozart? Beethoven? Tupac?
  1025. [2012-01-18 20:24:17] <ManOfTroy> Dracula on the moon?
  1026. [2012-01-18 20:26:16] <ABob> no moon dracula
  1027. [2012-01-18 20:26:22] <ABob> no drmcninja
  1028. [2012-01-18 20:27:00] <Sanity_Flake> :(
  1029. [2012-01-18 20:28:27] <ManOfTroy> Aww. Jupiter Elvis?
  1030. [2012-01-18 20:28:44] <Grail> Fuck
  1031. [2012-01-18 20:28:47] <Grail> Guys
  1032. [2012-01-18 20:28:53] <Grail> We missed a golden opportunity
  1033. [2012-01-18 20:29:01] <TactfulWatcher> To...?
  1034. [2012-01-18 20:29:10] <Grail> [22:20] <TheBeardiestBob> You know what-if you recruit her, and find a chance to go to south america-you can orchestrate a fight between Camella and an Amazonian.
  1035. [2012-01-18 20:30:01] <GoateeWuten> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1326901006186.png
  1036. [2012-01-18 20:30:09] <guile> Alas for missed chances. "Camella, I need you to hop on a plane and come to the Brazilian rainforest right away! No time to ask questions, just do it!"
  1037. [2012-01-18 20:30:26] <ManOfTroy> WE CAN STILL DO THIS!
  1038. [2012-01-18 20:30:37] <guile> Then we go get ourselves captured by Amazons
  1039. [2012-01-18 20:31:55] <Sanity_Flake> Don't worry, all you have to do is fight this champion while we all watch
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  1041. [2012-01-18 20:32:54] <guile> Camella trait gained: [Wonder Woman]
  1042. [2012-01-18 20:33:51] <Grail> I wonder if they exist
  1043. [2012-01-18 20:34:05] <Arkeus> Trait level up: Wicked Wonder woman
  1044. [2012-01-18 20:34:10] <Grail> Because actual amazons, with the whole cut off breast are supposedly a fabrication
  1045. [2012-01-18 20:35:04] <ManOfTroy> Grail, we have DF running somehere.
  1046. [2012-01-18 20:35:10] <ManOfTroy> If we -don't- have amazons, I am sad.
  1047. [2012-01-18 20:35:16] <guile> and why they would end up in brazil instead of mesopotamia/eurasia
  1048. [2012-01-18 20:35:22] <ManOfTroy> I mean -actual- ones, I know we have a big, beautiful frost-one back home at the moment.
  1049. [2012-01-18 20:35:44] <ABob> Actually, Jupiter's used for a popular Wizard fight method-that being, fight in freefall through the gasses from the 'surface' with pre-existing soul oaths to not use flight magic until one of the two admits defeat-basically, Wizard Chicken.
  1050. [2012-01-18 20:35:59] <ABob> Thus far, no non-wizard has done this
  1051. [2012-01-18 20:36:00] <Sanity_Flake> Oh man that sounds so awesome
  1052. [2012-01-18 20:36:12] <ABob> and in fact don't really know about it, since it's an in-crowd kind of thing
  1053. [2012-01-18 20:36:30] <ABob> in New Game+ if you successfully make Armas a wizard he could participate.
  1054. [2012-01-18 20:36:45] <Ralith> there is going to be a ng+?
  1055. [2012-01-18 20:36:57] <Sanity_Flake> If we finish the game, yeah.
  1056. [2012-01-18 20:37:00] <Ralith> neat
  1057. [2012-01-18 20:37:08] <Ralith> what's the win condition
  1058. [2012-01-18 20:37:20] <GoateeWuten> i believe you mean lose condition
  1059. [2012-01-18 20:37:44] <Arkeus> i don't really want to make Armas a wizard, honestly
  1060. [2012-01-18 20:37:45] <Sanity_Flake> Dunno. Defeat BBEG, live comfortably with a hueg clan/family forever
  1061. [2012-01-18 20:37:50] <Arkeus> seems... i don't know, less fun
  1062. [2012-01-18 20:38:25] <ABob> You have to die during one of the windows where dying actually CAN trigger a NG+. Such windows usually are found where there's an everloving shitton of magic.
  1063. [2012-01-18 20:38:57] <guile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfR6XccGJLk&feature=player_embedded
  1064. [2012-01-18 20:38:57] <Classhole> guile: Equestrian Mythos - length 2m 29s - rated 4.99/5.0 (623) - 8473 views - OmegaOzone on 2012.01.17
  1065. [2012-01-18 20:40:41] <Ralith> oh
  1066. [2012-01-18 20:40:44] <Ralith> so not "finish the game"
  1067. [2012-01-18 20:40:50] <Ralith> but "lose the game in a specific way"
  1068. [2012-01-18 20:41:27] <Grail> How would Camella fair against an Amazon anyway?
  1069. [2012-01-18 20:41:42] <Grail> Not with guns
  1070. [2012-01-18 20:41:51] <ABob> Default cancel option in the KOTOR MMO is broken http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=197768
  1071. [2012-01-18 20:45:19] <ManOfTroy> ...JUPITER IT IS!
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  1073. [2012-01-18 20:46:05] <TactfulWatcher> I missed something.
  1074. [2012-01-18 20:46:10] <TactfulWatcher> Jupiter?
  1075. [2012-01-18 20:46:21] <Wutenheimer> [21:35:48] <ABob> Actually, Jupiter's used for a popular Wizard fight method-that being, fight in freefall through the gasses from the 'surface' with pre-existing soul oaths to not use flight magic until one of the two admits defeat-basically, Wizard Chicken.
  1076. [2012-01-18 20:46:26] <Wutenheimer> [21:36:03] <ABob> Thus far, no non-wizard has done this
  1077. [2012-01-18 20:47:27] <TactfulWatcher> As fun as that may be, I would hate taking the wizard route.
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  1079. [2012-01-18 20:47:47] <TactfulWatcher> It seems lazy, and quite boring
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  1081. [2012-01-18 20:48:52] <Dart666> if we take the wizard route we would fight a lot of wizard level opponents
  1082. [2012-01-18 20:49:06] <Ironybot> It would be neither lazy nor boring; it would just be a very different game.
  1083. [2012-01-18 20:50:01] <Ironybot> The primary difficulty facing a wizard is distribution of resources rather than acquisition of power- they have a large but static amount of focus that they can devote to basically anything, so choosing where to put that focus defines their success.
  1084. [2012-01-18 20:50:22] <Ironybot> As does their success in diplomacy, of course. Nothing like finding people to watch your back.
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  1086. [2012-01-18 20:50:44] <Dart666> Bob, would be possible to use our wizard powers to regain our bloodlines?
  1087. [2012-01-18 20:50:45] <guile> I think it would make the most sense to re-find a bunch of friends and hand out contracts like pez
  1088. [2012-01-18 20:50:53] <guile> dispense contracts*
  1089. [2012-01-18 20:51:16] <Dart666> i prefer creating bloodlines
  1090. [2012-01-18 20:51:16] <ABob> Huh. I forgot Qin Shi Huang is slated to wake up in May.
  1091. [2012-01-18 20:52:00] <ABob> Dart666, Wizards can't have bloodlines. They can simulate the effects of one by using focus-or Contract a bloodline into someone else-but they can't legitimately have bloodlines.
  1092. [2012-01-18 20:52:04] <Ironybot> My guess is that having Contractor cadres is the most basic and common strategy that wizards use to ensure that they're not caught flat-footed and killed without having the chance to bring their powers to bear.
  1093. [2012-01-18 20:52:25] <guile> one wizard, or 20 pact users, I'd rather go with the practitioners
  1094. [2012-01-18 20:52:45] <ABob> Yeah-figure out what methods of focus you prefer in combat, and Contract out as much of what you DON'T like to use to others to watch your back.
  1095. [2012-01-18 20:52:46] <guile> is that the Yellow Emperor, bob? wiki is doing their blackout thing so I cant check
  1096. [2012-01-18 20:53:01] <ABob> Sure you can check wiki
  1097. [2012-01-18 20:53:04] <ABob> just have to be quick
  1098. [2012-01-18 20:53:08] <guile> lol
  1099. [2012-01-18 20:53:14] <ABob> hit stop BEFORE it redirects, and it stays on wiki
  1100. [2012-01-18 20:53:19] <guile> oh
  1101. [2012-01-18 20:53:41] <guile> I thought you meant 'read 2-3 words, be redirected, hit back, read 2-3 words, etc.'
  1102. [2012-01-18 20:53:42] <ABob> Come on, it's a redirect-I don't know SHIT about electronics and I figured that one out. Science man. Science.
  1103. [2012-01-18 20:53:59] <guile> I am basically a luddite, bob
  1104. [2012-01-18 20:54:32] <guile> all this technology is hurting the fabric of our society! things were better when I was a young man! stuff costs more than it used to!
  1105. [2012-01-18 20:55:45] =-= Captain-Lightning is now known as Momdfsdssa
  1106. [2012-01-18 20:56:08] <ABob> http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1326939997441.gif
  1107. [2012-01-18 20:56:39] <Arkeus> I honestly would prefer going the ameoba route
  1108. [2012-01-18 20:56:42] <Arkeus> learning magic there
  1109. [2012-01-18 20:56:50] <Arkeus> it's my feeling it's superior to wizards
  1110. [2012-01-18 20:56:59] <Grail> Camella's face when eating Armas' famous ratking burrito?
  1111. [2012-01-18 20:58:08] =-= Momdfsdssa is now known as Captain-Lightning
  1112. [2012-01-18 20:58:52] <ABob> http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=198673
  1113. [2012-01-18 20:58:54] <ABob> My god
  1114. [2012-01-18 20:59:01] <ABob> SWTOR is amazing entertainment
  1115. [2012-01-18 21:00:05] <CaptainButthead> Honestly if I were a wizard I'd invest my time in building bloodlines in people I trust
  1116. [2012-01-18 21:00:41] <CaptainButthead> Use golems to defend me in the interim
  1117. [2012-01-18 21:00:48] <Arkeus> I feel that's much better than do contracts, yes
  1118. [2012-01-18 21:01:03] <CaptainButthead> Well contracts give you a killswitch
  1119. [2012-01-18 21:01:19] <CaptainButthead> If you don't like the job someone's doing, you revoke the contract
  1120. [2012-01-18 21:01:23] <CaptainButthead> Can't do that with a bloodline
  1121. [2012-01-18 21:02:12] <Arkeus> That's not something that i count as an advantage, honestly
  1122. [2012-01-18 21:02:18] <Arkeus> and you can probably do that with the bloodline
  1123. [2012-01-18 21:02:30] <Arkeus> i mean, that's how we would become a wizard
  1124. [2012-01-18 21:02:37] <Ironybot> You need to get yourself into a stable and secure position in order to buy the time needed to build bloodlines in people, though. And how do you get to know people enough to trust them, when you're a goddamn wizard?
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  1126. [2012-01-18 21:03:12] <Arkeus> Wizards usually take months to get acclimatize to their powers anyway
  1127. [2012-01-18 21:03:20] <Arkeus> they aren't hunted anyway, it seems
  1128. [2012-01-18 21:03:51] <Ironybot> The massively skewed power dynamic leaves a lot of trouble in place. Like being a fantastically rich person; there's a huge amount of risk that anyone who seems to like you is just getting close to you for reasons of greed or to take advantage of your power.
  1129. [2012-01-18 21:04:02] <Captain-Lightning> Hello moto
  1130. [2012-01-18 21:04:03] <Captain-Lightning> ?gfh
  1131. [2012-01-18 21:04:04] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  1132. [2012-01-18 21:04:22] <Ironybot> Though I suppose wizards can just read their minds or souls to find out if that's going on or not, if it comes down to it.
  1133. [2012-01-18 21:04:57] <guile> "They don't like me for who I am, they just like me for my phenomenal cosmic power! Boo hoo- wait, I think I'm okay with that," Armas thinks
  1134. [2012-01-18 21:05:21] <Arkeus> lol
  1135. [2012-01-18 21:05:45] <Arkeus> Honestly, it's not like a wizard can't simply tear off someone's bloodline or kill him if he wants to anyway
  1136. [2012-01-18 21:05:46] <guile> I wonder if wizards have territorial pissing matches to defend territory, and then lord it over 'lesser' wizards like ruling dragons
  1137. [2012-01-18 21:05:55] <guile> or if wizards are rare enough that any country only has one
  1138. [2012-01-18 21:09:31] <Ironybot> There are supposedly only about two hundred wizards worldwide, if I recall the numbers correctly. So... not really enough of them for that sort of thing, I think.
  1139. [2012-01-18 21:11:46] <guile> right, theres like 220 countries
  1140. [2012-01-18 21:13:09] <Ironybot> And we know that a lot of wizards aren't nationally affiliated at all.
  1141. [2012-01-18 21:13:49] <Ironybot> There are a lot of purely supernatural power groups to align themselves with, and there are independents who may have their own organizations.
  1142. [2012-01-18 21:18:35] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not posting tonight iirc?
  1143. [2012-01-18 21:18:50] <Ironybot> Eh, I could probably write something, but I haven't started yet.
  1144. [2012-01-18 21:20:54] <Sanity_Flake> http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1326941858539.jpg
  1145. [2012-01-18 21:23:06] <guile> Irony- what was your expression when you got back from your trip and discovered Armas had immediately taken the opportunity to perform a musical and get to second base with a well-aged Duke Nukem?
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  1147. [2012-01-18 21:23:53] <Dart666> about the new game+, do we need to die or do we need to DIE
  1148. [2012-01-18 21:24:23] <TactfulWatcher> I would think soul death.
  1149. [2012-01-18 21:26:37] <Ironybot> My expression? You want what, emotes? I was pretty :/ up until I reached the part where Armas abruptly aborted his mission and backpedaled when his balls got squeezed, at which point I grew rather >:(. It was a dumb plan, though no more than I should have expected, but committing to a crazy plan and then aborting as soon as the going gets tough instead of pushing forward to victory was...
  1150. [2012-01-18 21:26:37] <Ironybot> ...seriously annoying and a major collective failure on the part of the players.
  1151. [2012-01-18 21:29:26] <Wutenheimer> http://i.imgur.com/CjlSE.jpg
  1152. [2012-01-18 21:29:34] <guile> True, I suppose if your plan is Gay Chicken, then you play to win
  1153. [2012-01-18 21:30:20] <guile> on the other hand, there's something to be said for realizing when a plan of attack isnt working
  1154. [2012-01-18 21:30:48] <guile> like, really isn't working
  1155. [2012-01-18 21:30:54] <ManOfTroy> Gay Chicken. How does Bob write such...awesome lines?
  1156. [2012-01-18 21:30:57] <Abeo> Armas just needed to work it harder.
  1157. [2012-01-18 21:31:43] <TactfulWatcher> Abeo, were you channeling Gianni just then?
  1158. [2012-01-18 21:31:50] <Arkeus> http://www.batoto.net/read/_/78025/toriko_ch172_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru/12 awwwwwwwwww
  1159. [2012-01-18 21:32:37] <ABob> Wutenheimer, is that your package or just an image?
  1160. [2012-01-18 21:32:41] <Ironybot> As I posted in the thread, it's not really about what the plan was so much as the fact that Armas displayed the despicable traits of uncertainty, cowardice, and carelessness. He cannot afford those and MUST not make a habit of indulging them.
  1161. [2012-01-18 21:33:05] <Arkeus> i agree, him being scared off by fondling surprised me
  1162. [2012-01-18 21:33:07] <Abeo> ...maybe I was
  1163. [2012-01-18 21:33:12] <Arkeus> but then, there was reasons for that
  1164. [2012-01-18 21:33:15] <Wutenheimer> just an image
  1165. [2012-01-18 21:33:20] <Ironybot> He's already got too much carelessness, and the other two are flaws which directly sabotage his normal methods of operation.
  1166. [2012-01-18 21:33:20] <Arkeus> half the posts were 'no kisssing!'
  1167. [2012-01-18 21:33:23] <Arkeus> so, well...
  1168. [2012-01-18 21:33:59] <guile> Of course, displaying the virtue of straight-forwardness and steadfastness in that situation would have probably got Duke in the sack. Which is... a novel interpretation of defeating him, I guess
  1169. [2012-01-18 21:34:25] <Ironybot> He would be much less likely to be threatening to kill us now if we had, were I to hazard a guess.
  1170. [2012-01-18 21:34:45] <TactfulWatcher> But Duke's all... Wrinkley
  1171. [2012-01-18 21:34:47] <Ironybot> That is neither here nor there, however.
  1172. [2012-01-18 21:35:05] <Ironybot> Armas could potentially M himself into believing that almost any trait is attractive.
  1173. [2012-01-18 21:35:19] <guile> he's not, really http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/src/132667916243.jpg
  1174. [2012-01-18 21:35:32] <TactfulWatcher> That is no the problem; or rather that is exaclty the problem
  1175. [2012-01-18 21:36:04] <Abeo> Arkeus, what the hell am I reading
  1176. [2012-01-18 21:36:04] <Ironybot> Point is! Focusing! Players need to remember that there is more to this than "wat do"; Armas is a living character whose decisions, and the reasons given for those decisions, influence his personality, capabilities, and actions in the long term.
  1177. [2012-01-18 21:36:05] <guile> with our luck, we'd end up being attracted exclusively to aging men afterwards
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  1179. [2012-01-18 21:36:17] <Arkeus> the problem was that half the posters were complaining about kissing, not complaining about the plan
  1180. [2012-01-18 21:36:26] <Arkeus> so it ended up with Armas being scared of kissins
  1181. [2012-01-18 21:36:28] <Arkeus> *shurg*
  1182. [2012-01-18 21:36:38] <Abeo> your link is confusing me
  1183. [2012-01-18 21:36:44] <Arkeus> you never read toriko?
  1184. [2012-01-18 21:36:46] <Ironybot> Competence brred competence. Determination breeds determination. And indecisiveness and failure to commit will only breed more of the same.
  1185. [2012-01-18 21:37:16] <Ironybot> We must be the change we want to see in Armas, if I may mutilate a quiote.
  1186. [2012-01-18 21:37:19] <Abeo> I have not done so, no.
  1187. [2012-01-18 21:37:20] <Ironybot> Quote.
  1188. [2012-01-18 21:38:19] *Global* [T] One more reminder about the possible passing of the SOPA/PIPA acts. Freedom of speech and freedom from censorship is one of the core principles of Rizon. Many of you also loudly oppose the SOPA/PIPA acts as well. Be heard, contact your local congress person.
  1189. [2012-01-18 21:38:31] *Global* [T] See http://sopa.rizon.net for details or visit http://americancensorship.org directly for more information, and as always thanks for flying with Rizon!
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  1195. [2012-01-18 21:43:09] *Global* [T] Also, please ignore my poor grammar, its late and im tired )
  1196. [2012-01-18 21:44:13] <Sanity_Flake> http://images.4chan.org/k/src/1326938180163.gif
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  1198. [2012-01-18 21:44:46] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Gentlemen.
  1199. [2012-01-18 21:45:34] <Abeo> *crickets*
  1200. [2012-01-18 21:50:30] <guile> lo gun
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  1208. [2012-01-18 22:16:56] <Bob> So, who's yet to post that has an intention to post?
  1209. [2012-01-18 22:17:14] <GoateeWuten> not i
  1210. [2012-01-18 22:17:15] <Ironybot> No one, as far as I know.
  1211. [2012-01-18 22:17:29] <Ironybot> Admittedly someone might have simply not commented here.
  1212. [2012-01-18 22:17:37] <GoateeWuten> goddamnit adobe reader, why do you have to be so fucking shitty
  1213. [2012-01-18 22:18:03] <Bob> I'll let this question float a bit before i start the update.
  1214. [2012-01-18 22:18:12] <Abeo> I'll be a lazy bastard as usual. Not posting
  1215. [2012-01-18 22:23:03] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I am amused.
  1216. [2012-01-18 22:23:05] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://youtu.be/TFCuE5rHbPA
  1217. [2012-01-18 22:23:06] <Classhole> Gunpowder_Symphony: Just Glue Some Gears On It (And Call It Steampunk) - length 2m 53s - rated 4.98/5.0 (3732) - 131976 views - Pikedevant on 2011.11.30
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  1222. [2012-01-18 22:43:28] <Abeo> I've got a general question: do any of the Russians have trollish tendancies?
  1223. [2012-01-18 22:44:21] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Vlad will be a frequent troll of gun forums in all caps and broken english.
  1224. [2012-01-18 22:45:19] <Ironybot> Satai only has trollish tendencies in the sense that very little delights him so much as watching an enemy get blown up when they thought they were completely safe.
  1225. [2012-01-18 22:46:41] <Abeo> I see.
  1226. [2012-01-18 22:46:44] <Ironybot> I believe Lyubov is a bit of a more classic troll, based upon recently-issued orders.
  1227. [2012-01-18 22:47:11] <Abeo> Was that the one with the self-help couple's books?
  1228. [2012-01-18 22:47:16] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Heh, Vlad's pretty much going to be the next Ivan Chesnokov.
  1229. [2012-01-18 22:47:24] <Ironybot> Yes.
  1230. [2012-01-18 22:48:11] <Abeo> I thoguht of that as the player being a troll, but the character being well-meaning. But I durno
  1231. [2012-01-18 22:49:32] <Ironybot> I don't think any of the Russians actually think that Camella and Armas are in that sort of relationship... although I suppose it's not impossible that they could.
  1232. [2012-01-18 22:50:25] <Abeo> It would be a pretty easy conclusion to reach based on their bickering, from certain perspectives
  1233. [2012-01-18 22:50:26] <Grail> Depends on how much they're paying attention
  1234. [2012-01-18 22:51:45] <Abeo> If i recall correctly, they've had limitted sober interaction with Camella
  1235. [2012-01-18 22:51:51] <Abeo> Though I suppose that's changing
  1236. [2012-01-18 22:52:13] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Sobriety is something that should only happen to other people.
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  1238. [2012-01-18 22:52:38] <Ironybot> There's a reason that "drinking prodigious quantities of vodka" is on the default list of minion streangths.
  1239. [2012-01-18 22:52:43] <Ironybot> Strengths. Excuse me.
  1240. [2012-01-18 22:53:25] <Wutenphone> So, bob working on the update yet?
  1241. [2012-01-18 22:53:27] <Abeo> I would be a hypocrite if I did not.
  1242. [2012-01-18 22:53:52] <Bob> Yes I have started just now actually
  1243. [2012-01-18 22:53:54] <Ironybot> I suspect that for any given Russian at any given time, they have imbibed 1d12-1 drinks in the last eight-hour period.
  1244. [2012-01-18 22:54:01] <Bob> I just got a feeling I should check chat one more time
  1245. [2012-01-18 22:55:39] <Ironybot> Not much going on in here.
  1246. [2012-01-18 22:56:10] <Abeo> Only so much you can say about Gay Chicken
  1247. [2012-01-18 22:56:17] <Wutenphone> Cool, if you could get it up before 1130 your time I'd appreciate it. Give me something to think about at work
  1248. [2012-01-18 22:56:47] <Wutenphone> And I've g2g
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  1250. [2012-01-18 22:56:56] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I am once again amused.
  1251. [2012-01-18 22:57:01] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://youtu.be/uvXo4sGB7zM
  1252. [2012-01-18 22:57:02] <Abeo> ?
  1253. [2012-01-18 22:57:02] <Classhole> Gunpowder_Symphony: Hitler reacts to SOPA. - length 4m 0s - rated 4.97/5.0 (6326) - 157105 views - FightingInternet on 2011.12.21
  1254. [2012-01-18 22:57:12] <Abeo> this oughta be good
  1255. [2012-01-18 22:58:24] <ManOfTroy> It is.
  1256. [2012-01-18 23:02:06] <Abeo> The end was especially good.
  1257. [2012-01-18 23:02:34] <Abeo> "No memes" everyone looks around the room during an uncomfrotable silence
  1258. [2012-01-18 23:02:43] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Heheheh.
  1259. [2012-01-18 23:03:43] <ManOfTroy> This is the one that has 'Don't cry, the Disney Company owns that'?
  1260. [2012-01-18 23:03:55] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Yeah.
  1261. [2012-01-18 23:03:58] <Gunpowder_Symphony> That bit was great.
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  1263. [2012-01-18 23:04:14] <Gunpowder_Symphony> CANCER BREAK
  1264. [2012-01-18 23:05:13] <ManOfTroy> I love that line
  1265. [2012-01-18 23:07:37] * Gunpowder_Symphony returns.
  1266. [2012-01-18 23:07:42] <Gunpowder_Symphony> VODKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
  1267. [2012-01-18 23:07:57] <Abeo> Likewise. Burst out in (maniacal) laughter.
  1268. [2012-01-18 23:08:44] <Abeo> Hmmm... I wonder if Armas could make his soul look like an optical illusion. Just to, you know, mess with people.
  1269. [2012-01-18 23:10:06] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Make it look like the combined voices of Gilbert Gottfried, Fran Drescher, Yoko Ono, Pauly Shore, and Bobcat Goldthwait sound.
  1270. [2012-01-18 23:10:17] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Metaphysical synesthesia.
  1271. [2012-01-18 23:12:10] <Abeo> That's horrible.
  1272. [2012-01-18 23:12:15] <Abeo> I approve.
  1273. [2012-01-18 23:12:19] * Gunpowder_Symphony bows.
  1274. [2012-01-18 23:21:38] <ManOfTroy> *applaud*
  1275. [2012-01-18 23:24:43] <Grail> I wonder how big Goliath was in GfH.
  1276. [2012-01-18 23:24:52] <Grail> Or if he was even human
  1277. [2012-01-18 23:25:41] <Abeo> And what David's deal was
  1278. [2012-01-18 23:28:12] <Abeo> I'm pretty excited about this soul bubble we've got going on right now.
  1279. [2012-01-18 23:28:40] <Ironybot> It's the foundation of perhaps many useful things.
  1280. [2012-01-18 23:29:25] <Ironybot> Being able to create and manipulate compressed spiritual energy is something with a huge amount of potential, particularly in combat applications.
  1281. [2012-01-18 23:29:52] <Ironybot> A lot like being able to control force fields, though in a highly energy-intensive fashion, if I correctly understand their function.
  1282. [2012-01-18 23:30:42] <Abeo> I'm hoping Armas will be able to replicate the trick on his own. Sure, Hummingbird is always nearby but still
  1283. [2012-01-18 23:31:58] <Grail> We'll need to kick our chakra lessons into high gear.
  1284. [2012-01-18 23:32:39] <Abeo> I'm hoping Armas will be able to reflexively use any soul bubble trick he's done preiviously, like his standard chakra abilities
  1285. [2012-01-18 23:33:05] <Grail> Being able to learn actual soul manipulation is just a couple teachers away.
  1286. [2012-01-18 23:33:39] <Arkeus> It's also a 'better use eye' away
  1287. [2012-01-18 23:34:31] <Abeo> In the shorterm we may be able to experiment with different soul bubble settings using hummingbird's help
  1288. [2012-01-18 23:34:52] <Abeo> or even non-bubble soul applications
  1289. [2012-01-18 23:35:41] <Abeo> Armas fighting with a soul spear....
  1290. [2012-01-18 23:40:16] <Bob> Here's a way to compare 'soul bubble' soul manipulation tricks against Chakra orientations. Think of chakra as being a candle-with the candle's length and flame intensity representing total magical energy and maximum chakra output, respectively. Soul bubble techniques are like having a hairspray can and igniting the fumes.
  1291. [2012-01-18 23:40:20] <Bob> YES, way bigger flame
  1292. [2012-01-18 23:40:31] <Bob> similarly, it runs out amazingly swifter than it's dimmer cousin
  1293. [2012-01-18 23:40:42] <Bob> more swiftly than, excuse me.
  1294. [2012-01-18 23:41:46] <Arkeus> So it's interesting for Armas to use Chakra for low-powered stuff and soul manip for pinpoint attacks
  1295. [2012-01-18 23:44:07] <Grail> The direct comparison was the soul bubble soul manipulation technique against chakra orientations in general, not soul manipulation as a whole against chakra orientations.
  1296. [2012-01-18 23:45:06] <Abeo> I'd expect the same principle to apply, in general.
  1297. [2012-01-18 23:47:36] <Ironybot> I have been waiting for Armas to grow soul claws for a long time. The spirit bubble trick might let him do it.
  1298. [2012-01-18 23:47:50] <Grail> I wouldn't really. We're creating a giant bubble around us to apply an effect across it's field, manipulating soul outside normal boundaries.
  1299. [2012-01-18 23:48:27] <Abeo> Oh you meant soul manipulation in general?
  1300. [2012-01-18 23:48:28] <Ironybot> He doesn't even need to maintain them continuously; we could conserve power by having them only sprout for the brief moment that we'd be stabbing someone with them.
  1301. [2012-01-18 23:48:43] <Grail> Yes, that was the point of my correction.
  1302. [2012-01-18 23:49:02] <Ironybot> Also, soul bullets. Not sure what kind of range we can get on this, but little beads of compressed spiritual energy shoved at people as hard as we can would probably hurt.
  1303. [2012-01-18 23:49:09] <Abeo> Man, I would hate to fight an opponent with near-instantly retracting and extending non-physical blades
  1304. [2012-01-18 23:50:19] <Grail> As long as we aren't going to rend their actual soul with it we should be legal
  1305. [2012-01-18 23:50:46] <Ironybot> I suspect also that we'll be able to get weapons enchanted to "hold" a spiritual energy charge, so that we can shove the power into them once and they'll hang onto it instead of being a constant drain- or at least make it drain more slowly than having the energy be freestanding as an independent weapon.
  1306. [2012-01-18 23:50:59] <Abeo> I really want to get an item of some sort, possibly a gun, that lets us use chakra/spirit abilities at range that we wouldn't otherwise be able to.
  1307. [2012-01-18 23:51:11] <Ironybot> Could make for very potent boosted spears, knives, etc.
  1308. [2012-01-18 23:51:25] <Ironybot> And of course, enchanted bullets.
  1309. [2012-01-18 23:52:42] <Bob> Actually, it's far easier to make 'battery' charms to store energy in than soul-imbued bullets and what have you.
  1310. [2012-01-18 23:53:05] <Ironybot> Why, if I may ask?
  1311. [2012-01-18 23:53:17] <Bob> This is why some single bloodline mortals can actually go toe to toe with shit that normally wrecks Armas-they use up years of carefully, cautiously saved energy to perform vastly above their parameters.
  1312. [2012-01-18 23:54:00] <Bob> It's easier because the energy comes back out the same way it went in. Soul bullets would need to convert that energy into something more focused-specifically, oriented around harm.
  1313. [2012-01-18 23:54:46] <Ironybot> I was thinking that Armas would do the type conversion and then use the bullet as a storage device.
  1314. [2012-01-18 23:54:48] <Abeo> If those charms can be cahrged by more than one individual with the same bloodline, large practitioner families could pull out quite a bit of energy if needed, I'd imagine.
  1315. [2012-01-18 23:55:06] <Ironybot> That is, he makes the soul bullet himself, and the enchanted bullet simply holds the construct intact until it's time to use it.
  1316. [2012-01-18 23:56:22] <Ironybot> Likewise with other weapons- he'd craft soul blades or what have you, and the weapons would channel and stabilize them.
  1317. [2012-01-18 23:57:56] <Bob> That's still more complicated than using a battery format magic item. Not saying people don't do it-more than a few do-but in fairness you'll get more energy efficiency out of batteries and doing the work on the spot yourself.
  1318. [2012-01-18 23:59:20] <Ironybot> Ah. But if we made bullets enchanted to hold and fire pre-crafted soul bullets, could we then give those bullets to minions and have them work, since they wouldn't need any additional soul manipulation when fired to be in the proper form?
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