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  1. Which is a cheap and stable web hoster?
  2. Hi, I need a cheap and stable hosting for hosting 3-4 page affiliate site. It won't be that heavy I believe. Those 2-3 pages will mostly have thank you page, privacy bla bla so not that heavy and I will be needing maybe 2-3 separate domains for separate sites.
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  15. Now I see globalhost.xyz offers 4 gb storage, unlimited bandwith, unlimited domain @$1.29. How is this possible? Then, tentrahost offers 50 gb pure ssd space, with unlimited everything @$1.99. Wait what?
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  17. I am so confused as who to trust with after sale support, stability, and quick to solve issues when they appear?
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  19. Can I get some recommendations on your personal experience?
  20. Overselling
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  22. How about support? Quality of hardware and network?
  23. Always pick what you feel is best but the cheaper prices sometimes are good indications of overselling as @net said. Always should be careful when picking a host if you want good uptime and support.
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  25. And, no I am not saying they all are doing that I am just saying one should be careful and pick themselves what they feel is best not everyone needs a huge amount of specs etc. But one should always be careful in picking out a host due to many factors. But it all depends on needs etc.
  26. Fast Reliable Web Hosting Dedicated to beginner users. Cpanel Shared Hosting. https://bhdmmwh2.us/
  27. Many plans and custom plans offered at fair prices.
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  29. Overselling
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  31. How about support? Quality of hardware and network?
  32. Can I get some hosting recommendations for my work?
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  34. As I said it will be like plain review sites with some images and 2-3 pages with "Thank you", "Privacy" pages etc. Also if I can get upto 3 separate domains then also good.
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  36. Quote Originally Posted by BHDMMWH View Post
  37. Always pick what you feel is best but the cheaper prices sometimes are good indications of overselling as @net said. Always should be careful when picking a host if you want good uptime and support.
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  39. And, no I am not saying they all are doing that I am just saying one should be careful and pick themselves what they feel is best not everyone needs a huge amount of specs etc. But one should always be careful in picking out a host due to many factors. But it all depends on needs etc.
  40. Yes but I am not able to pick as I am not that experienced. Can I get some hosting recommendations?
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  42. Work is like plain review sites with some images and 2-3 pages with "Thank you", "Privacy" pages etc. Not that heavy. Also if I can get upto 3 separate domains then also good.
  43. Check out the offers section on this forum, there's plenty of good hosts in there that have some good deals on & then you can do a search for them on here to find any good / bad reviews.
  44. Stratagem Hosting - Lightspeed fast, forever.
  45. Then most hosts should do the job really but in the end. But just have to pick the best one for you. There are lots of hosts advertising deals lots of pages in the shared hosting offer sections for you to pick from. I am sure you would find one.
  46. Fast Reliable Web Hosting Dedicated to beginner users. Cpanel Shared Hosting. https://bhdmmwh2.us/
  47. Many plans and custom plans offered at fair prices.
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  49. Yes but I am not able to pick as I am not that experienced.
  50. When it comes to price, you usually get what you pay for. That does not always mean cheap = low quality. Price depends on a lot of factors, including the provider's administration and advertising budget. There are exceptions, too. Providers often offer discounts. On the other hand, some of the largest shared hosting providers (eg. EIG owned providers) with higher pricing have huge number of horror stories.
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  63. And when it comes to overselling, most (if not all) of the providers oversell in one way or another. A decent provider knows how to deliver a better service while they are at it. For example, no server in the world has unlimited bandwidth / storage, yet you will see plenty of providers offering it. If someone can offer unlimited storage, why can't another offer 10 GB at the same or a lower price?
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  65. There are differences though. Even if the storage is unlimited, you will be limited by other metrics. For example, you will be able to host more files (web pages, emails etc. requires many files to be stored on the server) on a 5 GB hosting with 250,00 inodes limit than on an unlimited hosting with a 20,000 inodes limit. Watch out for these limits when you are buying.
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  67. For a 2-3 page website, you might not want to consider all these. But if the websites are important, knowing your limits upfront might come in handy.
  68. When it comes to price, you usually get what you pay for. That does not always mean cheap = low quality. Price depends on a lot of factors, including the provider's administration and advertising budget. There are exceptions, too. Providers often offer discounts. On the other hand, some of the largest shared hosting providers (eg. EIG owned providers) with higher pricing have huge number of horror stories.
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  70. And when it comes to overselling, most (if not all) of the providers oversell in one way or another. A decent provider knows how to deliver a better service while they are at it. For example, no server in the world has unlimited bandwidth / storage, yet you will see plenty of providers offering it. If someone can offer unlimited storage, why can't another offer 10 GB at the same or a lower price?
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  72. There are differences though. Even if the storage is unlimited, you will be limited by other metrics. For example, you will be able to host more files (web pages, emails etc. requires many files to be stored on the server) on a 5 GB hosting with 250,00 inodes limit than on an unlimited hosting with a 20,000 inodes limit. Watch out for these limits when you are buying.
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  74. For a 2-3 page website, you might not want to consider all these. But if the websites are important, knowing your limits upfront might come in handy.
  75. Thanks for the detailed info mate. And what does unmetered bandwidth means?
  76. One another thing to note is that the Tentrahost price you mention is with a 3 year committment. The monthly rate is substantially higher. Given that the resource demands of the websites you mention are low, I wouldn't worry too much about the quantity of bandwidth/storage alotted with each plan.
  77. Hi there First .xyz domains are commonly associated with malware and other questionable activities in my experience
  78. 2. as other posted have pointed out that price point is both overselling and referring to my first point is probably questionable as well
  79. 3.the lowest you can go and get good hosting is $3 USD I generally tell people that a budget of between 3-10 dollars will get you good hosting
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  81. Of those I've tried so far:
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  83. MDDhosting shared hosting is 5$ per month - if you don't mind placing all the websites within the same cPanel account.
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  85. Veerotech goes from 4$ per month, with a max of 5 domains / websites - also will be using the same cPanel account.
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  87. If you want each website on a separate cPanel (which is a safer option generally), you'd have to get a reseller hosting.
  88. Veerotech's is pretty good, starting at 11$ per month for up to 10 sub-accounts.
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  90. HostMantis reseller starts at 6$ per month, but now they offer 80% for paying at least a year up front (which I generally don't recommend).
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  92. I have tested this last one very briefly, since I needed a cheap hosting for testing/development - cost 20$ for three years, if it stays not extremely poor for at least a year, it's paid for itself.
  93. It has been surprisingly good for now, but still too early to draw any conclusions.
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  95. The first two are stable and secure based on my experience (but only US east coast servers - don't know where your target audience is). The last one - only if you need a test site, so it won't be wasted money if it turns out bad (though it's been good, very good, but only tested it for a few weeks) - and they have several server locations to choose from - renting them from various (IMO reputable) server companies.
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  98. Many other hosts to choose from, do search the forum users' reviews.
  99. Last edited by bikegremlin; 05-23-2019 at 01:35 PM.
  100. Mostly harmless?
  101. And what does unmetered bandwidth means?
  102. Unmetered = unlimited. These are just marketing terms.
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  104. You will be limited one way or another.
  105. Unmetered = unlimited. These are just marketing terms.
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  107. You will be limited one way or another.
  108. For what it's worth, I think "unmetered" is meant to be a bit more transparent version of "unlimited." E.g. unlimited gives an impression along this lines of, "you can use all you want" while unmetered gives an impression closer to, "we don't measure this." Still odd though--unmetered hosts definitely collect usage info on bandwidth and data.
  109. I collect performance data from shared web hosts and carefully analyze their services and pricing
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  113. Unmetered = unlimited. These are just marketing terms.
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  115. You will be limited one way or another.
  116. It is marketing, and they are practically the same, but not quite IMO. Take disk space for an example, even though it's not often advertised as "unmetered", but for simplicity sake:
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  118. Unmetered storage:
  119. "we'll give you some, unspecified amount and you won't get any complaints/fines/penalties for using as much as you are provided. It could turn out to be 100 GB, or 10 GB. You still have to stick to the TOS for what you can and can't store and you are limited by the inode count for the max. number of files/directories/emails etc."
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  121. Unlimited storage:
  122. "if you stick to the TOS on what can be stored and stay within the allotted inode count, you can store 100,000 1kb files, or 100,000 1 MB files (taking 1000 times more space) - we're good".
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  124. The good hosts will make all the use cases clear in their TOS and if you stick to that will uphold their (promised) end of the deal.
  125. Mostly harmless?
  126. For such a site with few pages any time tested host should do. But, remember to backup your hosted data regularly on any host that you choose.
  127. I think "unmetered" is meant to be a bit more transparent version of "unlimited."
  128. Quote Originally Posted by bikegremlin View Post
  129. It is marketing, and they are practically the same, but not quite IMO.
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  131. You are free to name a dog and call it tiger, but the dog will not become a tiger by doing it. It is still a dog.
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  133. Unmetered = not metered/measured/limited = unlimited = marketing term. Nothing more.
  134. Unmetered = 1tb disk space (on $5/monthly plan)
  135. Marketing.
  136. Disingenuous marketing, so really just lying to consumers that don't know any better.
  137. Unmetered = 1tb disk space (on $5/monthly plan)
  138. Marketing.
  139. Disingenuous marketing, so really just lying to consumers that don't know any better.
  140. TOS-s of the unlimited/unmetered providers that I've read all state the conditions: no storing backups, only files that are used by the website. Sometimes even a "no video/file sharing is to be used".
  141. So it is marketing - for the people who have no idea how big their website is - to believe it will fit.
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  143. I have put this to the test with one provider (without planning to ) - dirt cheap, paid 3 years in advance (which I wouldn't generally recommend doing), very poor performance - but no complaints from the provider. Piling up dozens of websites as addon domains within one shared account (also not recommended). Even used it for backups and storage before realizing that it is not fair use (though got no complaints from the provider - just checked out cloud storage prices and thought "there must be a catch, hosting should not allow such use, otherwise no one would use paid cloud storage" - and then i found it within the TOS).
  144. If you look very strictly, then even "limited" is just marketing. If I buy a 10 GB shared hosting, even there I'm not allowed to use all the 10 GB as I please - again, no backups etc.
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  146. So everything is marketing. Boils down to good vs poor hosting providers, regardless of how they limit the resources (limited, unlimited, unmetered).
  147. Yes, having strict limits does make resource use planning easier. But if a provider manages to do it with all unlimited - bravo for them.
  148. Mostly harmless?
  149. I would go for the following;
  150. Hi mate,
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  152. Personally from experience I have had a experience with the following:
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  154. InMotion - Not the fastest but have great support and quality hosting
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  156. HostWinds - Fast hosting, but USA only.
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  158. KrysalHost - These guys are nuts, excellent support insanely fast hosting but just a bit more pricey!
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  160. Have a look at them mate.
  161. If you look very strictly, then even "limited" is just marketing. If I buy a 10 GB shared hosting, even there I'm not allowed to use all the 10 GB as I please - again, no backups etc.
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  163. So everything is marketing. Boils down to good vs poor hosting providers, regardless of how they limit the resources (limited, unlimited, unmetered).
  164. Yes, having strict limits does make resource use planning easier. But if a provider manages to do it with all unlimited - bravo for them.
  165. No, the implications are not the same. 9 out of 10 hosting customers use the hosting to host websites, they do not store any backups or other files.
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  167. On the other hand 9 out of 10 unlimited hosting customers believe they will get unlimited resources.
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  169. Regardless of the fine print, the impression a customer gets at the first point of contact is important. With unlimited providers, the impression a customer gets can be considered as an outright lie.
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  172. Now the terms about storing backups, a lot of these terms are 'soft' conditions. Many providers will only enforce those terms if you were causing any harm to them but they do not have any other term to hold you responsible. Your experience also tells a similar story.
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  174. When you set up a server, it has a specific purpose. When you set up a hosting server, it is configured to deliver websites, not backups or multimedia streaming. Using a server for purposes other than it was intended to can cause performance issues, not to mention the service will be sub par which in turn might hinder the provider's reputation. No one wants to harm their reputation for a service they do not provide. This is why you are to use web hosting only for web hosting, not storing backups. It has nothing to do with marketing.
  175. Query the same term you use in your post and Google will give you an acceptable list that will make it simple to choose from, based on similar inquiries by other folks.
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  177. "I need a cheap and stable hosting for hosting 3-4 page affiliate site"
  178. No, the implications are not the same. 9 out of 10 hosting customers use the hosting to host websites, they do not store any backups or other files.
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  180. On the other hand 9 out of 10 unlimited hosting customers believe they will get unlimited resources.
  181.  
  182. Regardless of the fine print, the impression a customer gets at the first point of contact is important. With unlimited providers, the impression a customer gets can be considered as an outright lie.
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  184.  
  185. Now the terms about storing backups, a lot of these terms are 'soft' conditions. Many providers will only enforce those terms if you were causing any harm to them but they do not have any other term to hold you responsible. Your experience also tells a similar story.
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  187. When you set up a server, it has a specific purpose. When you set up a hosting server, it is configured to deliver websites, not backups or multimedia streaming. Using a server for purposes other than it was intended to can cause performance issues, not to mention the service will be sub par which in turn might hinder the provider's reputation. No one wants to harm their reputation for a service they do not provide. This is why you are to use web hosting only for web hosting, not storing backups. It has nothing to do with marketing.
  188. I understand what you mean, but don't fully agree.
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  190. Backups: if they were allowed, then overselling storage on a hosting server would not be possible - most people would use a lot more space than is the case. That is - even slight overselling might end up with overloading of storage space at least.
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  192. Unlimited: impression one gets when given 10, or 20 GB storage is also a lie in very similar terms - they aren't allowed to use it all if not used only for website files.
  193. With "unlimited": they are very likely not to get limited by the hosting company for the size of their website. If you are allowed to store as large website as you like (respecting the TOS), then storage is practically unlimited.
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  195. In a similar way, 1 vCPU core is an even greater lie on shared and many VPS environments: you can't use them 100% all of the time, can you? Even if it is required by your website. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
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  197. There are of course hosting companies who write "unlimited", but complain, even if you aren't breaking any TOS rules. But not all are like that.
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  199. Most shared and VPS plan prices are calculated with overselling in mind (the bad hosts overload as well). If being strict enough: anything but a dedicated server is a lie.
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  201. Another example for discussion, if unlimited is an outright lie, then 100 % uptime guarantee with 10X compensation is also very tricky in those terms. If you pay 30$ per month and your website is down for 10 hours per month, you get a 4$ discount. While I'm sure not many customers would make a calculation like that and truly understand what it means. And you can't really expect 100% (often even 99.99%) uptime if not using some redundancy and hosting the website at several locations, can you?
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  205. My point: yes, it is marketing, yes it is shady - but so are most other things in the hosting business - including the limited resources. It's a race to the bottom.
  206. Mostly harmless?
  207. Unlimited: impression one gets when given 10, or 20 GB storage is also a lie in very similar terms - they aren't allowed to use it all if not used only for website files.
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  209. ...My point: yes, it is marketing, yes it is shady - but so are most other things in the hosting business - including the limited resources.
  210. Limited providers often will let you use up all the storage allocated to the package. Even in your own experience you were able to store files. Despite that you are arguing this fact and calling them shady.
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  212. Let me put it this way, try to find out providers who offer 20 GB storage in their basic package but limited the client when their size exceeded 10 GB verses unlimited providers when a client's size exceeded 10 GB. You will see in 99% of the time, it is the unlimited provider who limited the client. For 1% occurrence, you cannot make that a rule, that is exception.
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  214. Backups: if they were allowed, then overselling storage on a hosting server would not be possible - most people would use a lot more space than is the case. That is - even slight overselling might end up with overloading of storage space at least.
  215. I can understand where you are coming from. However, that is not how a decent provider calculates/manages storage. There are many other aspects to consider. First and foremost, whatever they sell, they have to keep ample amount of storage and other resources free so that the server can run at its optimum performance during the busiest of time. This allows maintaining sustained performance. The key is *sustained*. Then they have to keep free storage to accommodate future growth/upgrades. You see just by factoring in these two issues, you'll have to keep a fair amount of storage free.
  216. You are literally taking it wrong. On a shared hosting, the resource allocations are 'shared' allocations, not dedicated. Juts like a home internet connection. You won't have 100 MBPS all the time in a home connection, because the bw is 'shared'. On a dedicated hosting (e.g. VDS, semi-dedicated, dedicated server) the resource allocations are dedicated. On a VPS, the resources are 'shared'. If you are expecting dedicated resources from a shared hosting, your expectations are not justified.
  217. There are of course hosting companies who write "unlimited", but complain, even if you aren't breaking any TOS rules. But not all are like that.
  218. They are exceptions.
  219. Most shared and VPS plan prices are calculated with overselling in mind (the bad hosts overload as well). If being strict enough: anything but a dedicated server is a lie.
  220. See my point about shared resources above.
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  222. Another example for discussion, if unlimited is an outright lie, then 100 % uptime guarantee with 10X compensation is also very tricky in those terms.
  223. I think you are taking the uptime guarantee as a guarantee to keep the uptime to 100%. That is not the case. The uptime guarantee is about compensation. And the providers who offer 100% uptime guarantee mostly offer network uptime, not the server.
  224. I'm not sure you have understood what I wrote - based on some replies - could be a language thing, since they seem to be further explaining what I've already written - I'd even say that for 90% of the points we agree.
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  226. In any way, I still respectfully disagree on the unlimited, at least based on the arguments you've provided so far.
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  228. Taking a shared hosting environment for an example: how is "unlimited" storage different from 1 CPU 1 GB RAM in terms of being misleading to a degree, or being upfront if one understands how it works and reads the TOS?
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  230. As far as exceptions go - I'd say that any good hosting (limited, or unlimited) is an exception - roughly 90% of the industry is (low price &) low quality hosting. I respect those who do a good job, whether they advertise "unlimited", or strictly limited and, for the reasons I gave, don't consider it a deception if the provider repects their own TOS and Fair Use Terms. Or, put in other words: it's all deception - both limited and unlimited, there's always some catch. You end up getting what you pay for, or less, never more. I'm all for raising the goods and service prices, making poor quality against the law, but the market is what it is and dictates it to a degree - capitalism. So one can't really complain and call it unfair, or could - but, again, then everything is unfair.
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  232. If an unlimited provider doesn't limit your storage for the website files, than it is not-limited. If they do, then it is deceptive marketing - not holding up to your part of the deal.
  233. Yes, there are such hosts. One provided explanation "but everyone else advertises unlimited, so we wrote it too, but we're having problems with your website".
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