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  1. irc.freenode.net#netbsd
  2. 2016-Jan-27 to 2016-Jan-28 (partial snapshot of discourse)
  3. http://www.lumbercartel.ca/
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  5. [19:28] == LumberCartel [60352f2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.53.47.42] has joined #netbsd
  6. [19:29] <LumberCartel> I'm using ddrescue to recover some data, and it's dealing with bad sectors just fine. No problems at all (although the first time around the system rebooted unexpectedly, but now seems fine).
  7. [19:29] <LumberCartel> My question is more about the development side of this product.
  8. [19:30] <LumberCartel> When using the -v command-line option, the output updates the previous three lines of text, and not just the current line.
  9. [19:30] <LumberCartel> How does this work? Is it using ANSI output, or using some other method that's cross-platform?
  10. [19:30] <LumberCartel> Thanks in advance.
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  27. [21:25] <pallu> hello
  28. [21:26] <pallu> all
  29. [21:27] <pallu> so im tring to install a network card
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  32. [21:42] <cfkoch> LumberCartel: likely it's doing something like printf("\b\b\b\b\b\b")
  33. [21:42] <cfkoch> LumberCartel: "\b\b\b\"
  34. [21:43] <cfkoch> ...should be able to "erase" newlines, too
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  53. [00:03] <milosn> jeezy
  54. [00:03] <milosn> friend, pal, roman
  55. [00:03] <milosn> where art thou?
  56. [00:03] <milosn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
  57. [00:06] <rsmarples> venture37: ok, so your RA didn't contain any prefix
  58. [00:06] <rsmarples> and it being expired is just dhcpcd listening to the NA state of the router
  59. [00:06] <rsmarples> according to the kernel
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  73. [01:15] <ASau> apokatastasis: in modern times, having a lot free memory means that the memory is used ineffectively.
  74. [01:15] <ASau> apokatastasis: because it may be used as a cache for files and other data.
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  78. [01:39] <medfly> also, if you use very little memory, you can use cache which is much faster than RAM.
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  82. [01:53] <grafos> LumberCartel: you need to to truss / strace the program, whatever netbsd uses. then youwill see those escape sequences in the system write() calls
  83. [01:54] <grafos> they probably are ANSI escapes technically, but are likely coming from some termcap/terminfo definitions
  84. [01:56] <grafos> something like these peole are doing here: http://gnats.netbsd.org/43611
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  86. [01:59] <grafos> looks like the trace layout is a little different, the printed string is underneath the write()
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  88. [01:59] <grafos> ktruss -T someprogramhere
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  91. [02:01] <grafos> some escapes to watch for might be: \033[number;numberH to set cursor position, \033[number;numberr to set scrolling region etc
  92. [02:02] <grafos> those are a couple of the less obvious ones. most of the other escapes are simpler. and just bump lines, rows and chars around
  93. [02:03] <grafos> but yeah as far as I know NetBSD uses termcap/terminfo or netbsd curses for all of this.
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  97. [02:42] <LumberCartel> grafos: So it's just ANSI sequences then. That's no problem for me because used to program ANSI sequences when I was involved in running BBSes and writing BBS software when I was a kid.
  98. [02:42] <grafos> nice. yeah i really like using the ANSI terminal stuff too
  99. [02:43] <LumberCartel> Using specific screen positions is not the best approach because dmesg output moves the cursor (and other outputs to the screen can too). Fortunately there is, as I recall, a set of ANSI sequences for relatively advancing the cursor in the four directions.
  100. [02:44] <LumberCartel> grafos: Thank you for your help.
  101. [02:46] <grafos> ah ok interesting. I will keep that in mind. i use tracing a lot to reverse engineer things, no problem. first thing that pops to my mind when i have an issue
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  134. [06:05] <Harzilein> hi
  135. [06:06] <medfly> yo
  136. [06:06] <Harzilein> can i get a cvs mirror up with rsync and then continue with cvsup? my initial cvsup got aborted when my dsl reconnected and now it segfaults when trying to continue
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  156. [07:31] <i3enedek> anyone having issues with hdaudio and radeondrmkmsfb?
  157. [07:32] <freqlabs> I have an issue with the number of characters in that name
  158. [07:32] <i3enedek> does what it says on the tin
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  160. [07:32] <freqlabs> :D
  161. [07:34] <medfly_> like audio from the graphics card?
  162. [07:36] <i3enedek> no more like a ring buffer never filling
  163. [07:36] <i3enedek> like playing a 256k mp3 on a 486
  164. [07:36] <jakllsch> i3enedek: dunno, you may or may not need the X11 driver
  165. [07:36] <jakllsch> at least, assuming this is DisplayPort/HDMI audio
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  167. [07:37] <i3enedek> the graphics part is fine
  168. [07:37] <medfly_> I needed a driver to input things...
  169. [07:37] <i3enedek> it's the hdaudio part that not fine, redrawing the display causes the buffers to underrun
  170. [07:38] <i3enedek> although giving mplayer 8Mb of cache seems to have plasterd over the issue...
  171. [07:38] == merzo [~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua] has joined #netbsd
  172. [07:39] <medfly_> does anyone here use GNOME?
  173. [07:40] <i3enedek> as in Gnome or does gtk count?
  174. [07:40] <medfly_> gnome gnome
  175. [07:41] <i3enedek> then the answer is not a chance in hell
  176. [07:41] <medfly_> :)
  177. [07:41] <medfly_> I've been making baby steps towards porting GNOME3
  178. [07:43] == Izaac [~izaac@2610:1c0:4:0:a23f:50b9:da51:2fe9] has joined #netbsd
  179. [07:44] <medfly_> I feel like the group of people who would use GNOME3 and the group of people who would use NetBSD are very distinct
  180. [07:44] <medfly_> it does look pretty shiny though
  181. [07:45] <medfly_> Empathy looks like Google Hangouts without being closed source and by Google
  182. [07:45] <medfly_> or older Skype
  183. [07:45] <medfly_> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Empathy-3-6-2-Integrates-Better-with-GNOME-Online-Account-2.png
  184. [07:47] <i3enedek> there are prolly more nbsd + evilwm users than there are nbsd + gome users
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  186. [07:49] <f8l> I never heard about evilwm or gome.
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  189. [08:04] <ryoshu> f8l: Izaac uses evilwm
  190. [08:05] <f8l> Why are you telling me about it?
  191. [08:06] <i3enedek> I know of two more
  192. [08:06] <medfly_> I use XMonad
  193. [08:06] * medfly_ should probably update that in pkgsrc
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  195. [08:13] <f8l> It seem linking XEN3_DOM0/netbsd failed with some undefined references to efi_* on amd64.
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  197. [08:19] <f8l> GENERIC seems to work fine though.
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  207. [09:11] <leot> good evening all
  208. [09:11] <medfly_> good evening leot!
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  224. [10:14] <asie> Trying to install NetBSD 7.0 on my computer as an experiment, however "newfs: /dev/rwd0a: open for read: Device busy" keeps happening. I read on the Internet that it might be due to GPT leftovers (which I'm checking for now) or due to not using a: as the install partition. Any additional possibilities?
  225. [10:15] <DGASAU> Exclude these two first.
  226. [10:15] <asie> Working on it.
  227. [10:15] <asie> Well, "not using a: as the install partition" while NetBSD's installer offers that option would mean a bug
  228. [10:16] <asie> and I am not in the position to be able to free a: on any of my hard drives, unless I do some MBR magic...
  229. [10:16] <DGASAU> How come?
  230. [10:16] <asie> I have Linux on one, and lots of backup data on the others
  231. [10:17] <jakllsch> 'a' is a disklabel partition, not necessarily an MBR partition
  232. [10:17] <DGASAU> What jakllsch says.
  233. [10:17] <asie> What I mean is the part in which the partition table is set up
  234. [10:18] <asie> a: and b: are occupied by Linux partitions, c: and d: are free
  235. [10:18] <asie> Sorry. Not very good with the terminology yet.
  236. [10:18] <DGASAU> I'd say that's quite stupid to experiment on a medium that holds backups.
  237. [10:18] <asie> That's why I'm not doing it on the backup mediums.
  238. [10:18] <DGASAU> asie: no, "a" and "b" are _not._
  239. [10:19] <DGASAU> "a" and "b" are BSD partitions here.
  240. [10:19] <asie> one second
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  244. [10:25] <asie> okay, I did have leftover GPT data from... a few months ago.
  245. [10:25] <asie> explains some things.
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  247. [10:25] <asie> let's try now
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  249. [10:26] <f8l> Which architecture is this? I think the meaning of letters depends on it.
  250. [10:26] <asie> amd64
  251. [10:26] <DGASAU> "a" and "b" don't depend on this.
  252. [10:27] <f8l> Probably, but saying that ‘c: and d: are free’ is not quite right in this context.
  253. [10:27] <asie> http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201109/images/nbsd06.png
  254. [10:27] <asie> I meant a: and b: in this sense ^
  255. [10:27] <asie> I did not know a better way to call them as the installer referred to them like that, possibly to make keyboard access easier?
  256. [10:28] <asie> the first of four primary partitions might've been better.
  257. [10:28] <f8l> So, you are talking about MBR partitions…
  258. [10:28] <asie> Yes.
  259. [10:28] <DGASAU> There're no "primary partitions" here.
  260. [10:28] <f8l> Then yes. It may be free.
  261. [10:28] <DGASAU> Those are BSD partitions.
  262. [10:28] <f8l> Sorry I have to go now.
  263. [10:28] <DGASAU> If you never installed NetBSD or FreeBSD, they ought to be free.
  264. [10:29] <asie> It says it's the MBR partition table, and I'm pretty sure I have two Linux partitions in my MBR
  265. [10:29] <asie> the first and second one.
  266. [10:29] <DGASAU> Hm.
  267. [10:29] <asie> It's not the BSD partition table, it's the MBR partition table
  268. [10:29] <DGASAU> Alright.
  269. [10:30] <DGASAU> How come that it is empty, if you're saying that you have partitions there??
  270. [10:30] <asie> Maybe my wording was inprecise then but I was scrambling to find something that has gdisk on it to wipe the GPT data I've had left over
  271. [10:30] <asie> That's not my own screenshot
  272. [10:30] <Izaac> Were I you, I'd drop out of the installer and to the command line. Using disklabel interactively will bring you much joy.
  273. [10:30] <asie> I just turned off gdisk and am now dd'ing NetBSD back to my USB flash drive
  274. [10:30] <DGASAU> Well...
  275. [10:30] <asie> so I couldn't take a screenshot of my situation. I just wanted to show which installer screen I was referring to with the terminology I used for partitions
  276. [10:30] <DGASAU> I'd say, try not to confuse people who are trying to help you.
  277. [10:30] <asie> I'm doing my best!
  278. [10:31] <asie> But I can only do so much.
  279. [10:31] <DGASAU> Are you using USB flash medium?
  280. [10:31] <asie> Yes. With NetBSD-7.0-amd64-install.img
  281. [10:31] <asie> no access to CDs right now
  282. [10:31] <DGASAU> No.
  283. [10:31] <DGASAU> I mean the medium you're trying to install to.
  284. [10:31] <asie> no
  285. [10:31] <asie> i'm installing from USB to a hard drive
  286. [10:31] <asie> one sec
  287. [10:32] <DGASAU> Does it have MBR partitions?
  288. [10:32] <asie> yes
  289. [10:32] <asie> i will get you a screenshot just let me boot up the computer
  290. [10:32] <DGASAU> And this is the first time you're installing NetBSD...
  291. [10:32] <asie> Actually, I did it once on my ThinkPad X200 before
  292. [10:33] <asie> but it was a clean slate - no dual-booting or anything
  293. [10:33] <DGASAU> In the latter case, frankly, I'd suggest that you practice a little on USB flash medium.
  294. [10:33] <DGASAU> So that you don't have data on your target medium.
  295. [10:33] <asie> I don't have enough USB flash mediums. I have one 8GB pendrive that serves as my router hard drive and one 1GB that I'm installing NetBSD from. (Also, I don't have much to lose.)
  296. [10:34] * DGASAU scratches head.
  297. [10:34] <asie> http://img.asie.pl/Xvlv
  298. [10:34] <asie> this is what I was referring to in the beginning by the way
  299. [10:34] <asie> Also, yes! The issue was leftover GPT data
  300. [10:35] <asie> Wiped it with gdisk and now it's fine.
  301. [10:35] <DGASAU> That one looks good.
  302. [10:35] <asie> It turns out I had a GPT partition table from a few months ago which had an entirely different partition layout, and somehow I never got rid of it as nothing complained.
  303. [10:35] <asie> Sorry for the trouble
  304. [10:36] <asie> and thanks for the friendly support
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  312. [11:20] <xz> medfly_: got the VM working great (on forced windows nt6.1 work pc)
  313. [11:20] <xz> NetBSD net.localdomain 7.0_STABLE NetBSD 7.0_STABLE (EEPROM) #0: Thu Jan 28 12:09:12 CST 2016 root@net.localdomain:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/EEPROM i386
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  315. [11:22] <medfly_> neat :)
  316. [11:22] <xz> :)
  317. [11:23] <xz> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11368771 Jan 28 12:09 /netbsd
  318. [11:23] <xz> medfly 11MB , have to remove some BLOAT
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  322. [11:33] <ryoshu> hello rickardve and PuppetMaster
  323. [11:34] <PuppetMaster> hello ryoshu
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  329. [11:55] <medfly_> ack
  330. [11:55] <medfly_> nt6.1 work pc)
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  333. [11:56] <medfly_> I've got weird issues with USB which seem to be triggered sometimes when I plug in my keyboard. but not consistent
  334. [11:56] <medfly_> like right now when I tried to move my mouse and it copied a bunch of things instead of acting normal.
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  336. [11:56] <medfly_> [14:56] [medfly_(+Zi)] [2:freenode/#netbsd(+cgjlnt)]
  337. [11:56] <medfly_> [#netbsd] 2016 root@net.localdomain:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/EEPR
  338. [11:56] <medfly_> ..
  339. [11:57] <medfly_> dammit!
  340. [11:57] <medfly_> 14:34:15 < ryoshu> hello rickardve and PuppetMaster
  341. [11:57] <medfly_> 14:34:15 < ryoshu> hello rickardve and PuppetMaster
  342. [11:57] <medfly_> 14:34:15 < ryoshu> hello rickardve and PuppetMaster
  343. [11:58] <medfly_> okay. I'm gonna reboot until it's fixed ;)
  344. [11:58] <PuppetMaster> o.0
  345. [11:58] <PuppetMaster> 0.o
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  347. [12:06] <xz> hey ryoshu !
  348. [12:06] <xz> how are ya?
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  353. [12:22] <ryoshu> hello xz
  354. [12:22] <ryoshu> xz: I'm learning to use x86 CPU registers to netbsdize LLDB and CoreCLR
  355. [12:25] <xz> nice!!!!
  356. [12:25] <xz> awesome job, ryoshu
  357. [12:25] <ryoshu> xz: and you?
  358. [12:28] <xz> simple things here, just netbsd+vmware
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  363. [12:46] <ryoshu> xz: good enough :)
  364. [12:48] <xz> :)
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  381. [13:57] <GreenDay> hello netbsd
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  384. [14:06] <grafos> hey GreenDay
  385. [14:06] <grafos> did you install NetBSD yet?
  386. [14:13] <pallu> does any one know how to install grub
  387. [14:16] <GreenDay> grafos: yes
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  389. [14:17] <GreenDay> does browser sucks?
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  408. [15:02] <medfly_> cfkoch: !!!
  409. [15:02] <medfly_> cfkoch: asie showed me something you may be interested in!
  410. [15:03] <medfly_> cfkoch: http://img.asie.pl/cWa5
  411. [15:03] <asie> ^ minecraft 1.8.9 on netbsd, adapted from the lwjgl openbsd port
  412. [15:04] <medfly_> this has to be a record
  413. [15:04] <medfly_> of some sort
  414. [15:04] <ryoshu> cfkoch: !
  415. [15:04] <i3enedek> pfffft dwarf fortress > minecraft
  416. [15:04] <medfly_> a few hours ago asie was installing NetBSD, now he ported Minecraft :))
  417. [15:04] <ryoshu> we can adapt dwarves fortress andeven i3enedek!
  418. [15:04] <ryoshu> for netbsd
  419. [15:04] <i3enedek> look in wip
  420. [15:05] <i3enedek> wip/dwarf_fortress to be precise
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  422. [15:05] <i3enedek> if someone can package up that abortion of a binary feel free
  423. [15:06] <i3enedek> just don't expect opengl to work on a 64bit system
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  428. [15:13] <cfkoch> medfly_: ryoshu: neat
  429. [15:13] <cfkoch> unfortunately i know nothing of minecraft nor java, hahah
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  432. [15:14] <Riastradh> i3enedek: Don't expect OpenGL to work on a 64-bit system? Why not?
  433. [15:15] <medfly_> Riastradh: look at it!
  434. [15:15] <cfkoch> um i'm pretty OpenGL works on a 64-bit system?
  435. [15:15] <cfkoch> such as mine?
  436. [15:15] <cfkoch> *pretty sure
  437. [15:16] <Riastradh> medfly_: At the minecraft screenshot? Cool!
  438. [15:16] <medfly_> 60fps!
  439. [15:16] <Riastradh> Is that with Intel graphics?
  440. [15:17] <medfly_> yes :)
  441. [15:18] <asie> yes, Minecraft 1.8 did some optimizations for a change
  442. [15:18] <Riastradh> Neat.
  443. [15:18] <asie> HD4600 from an i7-4790
  444. [15:20] <i3enedek> Riastradh: 32bit linux binary
  445. [15:21] <i3enedek> unless someone wants to patch the binary ;o)
  446. [15:21] <ryoshu> medfly_: is 60fps ok?
  447. [15:22] <medfly_> yes
  448. [15:24] * cfkoch <- afk
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  450. [15:27] <ASau> Wait!
  451. [15:27] <ASau> "jdbc:postgresql:" is correct URL??
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  456. [15:44] <ASau> Apparently, it is.
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  458. [15:44] <ASau> Even though the documentation is a little weird.
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  465. [16:10] <ashes-mobile> i love how configurable fvwm is. it's my favorite window manager, but it's daunting
  466. [16:11] <ashes-mobile> largest manual page i know of
  467. [16:11] <medfly_> is it as configurable as XMonad/dwm?
  468. [16:12] <ashes-mobile> it's configurable in every aspect. it can be configured to emulate any other window manager, as far as i know
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  470. [16:13] <ashes-mobile> that has also prevented gui configuration editors though
  471. [16:14] <ashes-mobile> the default config is awful, however
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  474. [16:19] <roarde> i think i've come in in the middle of something i might be interested in
  475. [16:19] <roarde> is the channel logged?
  476. [16:20] <medfly_> uhh, I've got logs
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  478. [16:20] <roarde> "gui configuration editors" caught my attention. NetBSD or something else?
  479. [16:21] <medfly_> ashes-mobile likes fvwm
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