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  2. "I asked him one open-ended question: What do you want from Ukraine? And as I recall, he was in a very bad mood. It was a very quick conversation. He said: I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want Zelensky to do the right thing. And I said: What does that mean? And he said: I want him to do what he ran on. And that was the end of the conversation. I wouldn't say he hung up [on] me, but it was almost like he hung up on me."
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  5. "MR. ZELDIN: Mr. Ambassador, earlier referenced Ambassador Taylor, and later you were answering questions with regards to your effort to find out why there was a hold on aid. Did ambassador Taylor ever mention to you a -- anything about a quid pro quo prior to that text that you responded to?
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  7. AMBASSADOR SONDLAND: To which text do you refer?
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  9. MR. ZELDIN: Do you recall receiving a text from Ambassador Taylor suggesting that there was a linkage between U.S. aid to Ukraine and opening an investigation into the Bidens?
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  11. AMBASSADOR SONDLAND: I don't know that that's what the text said. I recall --
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  13. MR. ZELDIN: What do you recall?
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  15. AMBASSADOR SONDLAND: I recall there was some kind of text that aid was connected to some political agenda of the President's. That's what Ambassador Taylor articulated and that's what prompted my phone call to President Trump to ask him what he wanted."
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  17. "MR. MALINOWSKI: Okay. So even in that conversation in which he said there was no -- that he wanted nothing, no quid pro quo, he did actually want something. He wanted Zelensky to do something consistent with what he ran on. That's correct?
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  19. AMBASSADOR SONDLAND: If you consider that a quid pro quo, then --
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  21. MR. MALINOWSKI: Well, how did you -- what did you understand he meant by "I want Zelensky to do what he ran on"?
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  23. AMBASSADOR SONDLAND: Again, I didn't have the time or opportunity to question him. He -- as I stated in my opening statement. He was in a very bad mood and it was a very short call. I don't want to characterize him as hanging up on me, but it was close to that.
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  25. MR. MALINOWSKI: But then in the text message that you sent reporting on that conversation, you said: "The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised."
  26. So I think it suggests that you thought he was referring, again, to the corruption issue.
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  28. AMBASSADOR SONDLAND: I thought it was -- based, again, on the short call, it was my interpretation of what the President was trying to tell me. I didn't have the opportunity to ask followup questions. He didn't want to talk."
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  31. And later, from a sworn declaration by Gordon Sondland:
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  33. "Ambassador Taylor recalls that I told Mr. Morrison in early September 2019 that the resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine had become tied to a public statement to be issued by Ukraine agreeing to investigate Burisma. Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor that I told Mr. Morrison that I had conveyed this message to Mr. Yermak on September 1, 2019, in connection with Vice President Pence's visit to Warsaw and a meeting with President Zelensky. Mr. Morrison recalls that I said to him in early September that resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine might be conditioned on a public statement reopening the Burisma investigation."
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  35. "Also, I now do recall a conversation on September 1, 2019, in Warsaw with Mr. Yermak. This brief pull-aside conversation followed the larger meeting involving Vice President Pence and President Zelensky, in which President Zelensky had raised the issue of the suspension of U.S. aid to Ukraine directly with Vice President Pence. After that large meeting, I now recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said that the resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks. I also recall some question as to whether the public statement should coem from the newly appointed Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than from President Zelensky directly."
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