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- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: want some tips
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: press y on keyboard to talk btw
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: we can play another if you don't want them
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but i can tell you things i noticed
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and help you out
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ohh nice
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: sure
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: okay so first and foremost
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you're playing by the book
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but you're skimreading
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you do a lot of good stuff
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but it looks like you don't know why you're doing it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and a lot of times you throw it out without reason
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: stuff like dash attack and ftilt
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah you're right about that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: those are good but if i'm looking for them and i can counter, don't freely use them
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: smash and fighting games are conversations
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if i ask you how's your day
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah especially when you can just cc it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and you say i'll have fries
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: then that's weird
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you gotta respond in the right ways
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: lmao
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there's lots of answers to every question in this game lol
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i need to think more
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: sorry for the weird metaphor
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: no it makes sense
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but i think that one breaks smash down well
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: do you know about the rps of smash
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yes that the game is an advanced rps
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye it's glorified rps
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you have attack/shield/grab
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: and that every move can be beaten by something else etc
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: whenever you get hit or something
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ask yourself why you were hit
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: then run thu rps and figure out how to beat it
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah you're right
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: eg if you d-throw me and i buffer spot dodge and upsmash you
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: right
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you need to realize you didn't lose to upsmash
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you lost to the spotdodge
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so you need to wait the spotdodge out and grab that or do something where i can't spotdodge out like a jab
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: that makes sense
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there's lots of options but that's just a preface
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: in general you have the right tools just use them more mindfully
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i get the point you're making
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and piece together combos overtime
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i need to be more mindful
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: we can play one real quick and i can give you specifics after if you want
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: and think about why im doing what im doing
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: sure
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: or if you have a question now lmk
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i dont currently
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: kk
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: okay so a couple of things
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you're watching me while you play right
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you should be looking at your opponent 99% of the time
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: kk good
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: did you see what i was looking for and how i punished you?
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i was trying to think more that time
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there were 3 main things
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: 3 things you did habitly that i picked up on that i punished you for
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i know you wanted to hit me with something you could cc
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that wasn't one of them but it might have happened
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: you just waited for me to throw something out unsafe it felt like
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: like a random fair or f tilt
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: it was more specific than that
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: let me think
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: kk
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: think about interactions between us not so much what you're doing
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: think about what i made you do by instinct
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i rolled a lot
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: true and that's close to one but not the one i was thinking of
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: you made me feel pressured
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: want me to tell you?
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yes please
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that game alone i picked up on 3 things
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: #1 habit spot dodge
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i waited it out and punished it with grab. same with with panic d-tilt, which you did on shield a lot
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: omg yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that i can wait out and just do anything really
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: you're right
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so i was watching for that and punish it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: punishing*
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: #2 i was watching how you came off platforms
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: you know im going to just run off fair
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: most of the time you just ran off and tried to hit me
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: did it every time you're right
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: didnt mix it up at all
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you never really did it empty and you didn't waveland out to reposition
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah just a straight run off fair
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if you waveland out of running off plat you can punish ppl for waiting to grab or upsmash you coming off plat
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ill show you in a sec
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: shielddropping is also a bit thing that helps
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i know i have to learn that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i punished run off a lot with grabs and upsmashes and stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i can barely do it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: #3 was DI
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: bad di yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you held in a lot and that left me get up-tilt combos and stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i was thinking about running shine a lot
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i watched oout for that DI and knew my punishes before hand to account for in and out and stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: makes sense
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but those where 3 things i found and noticed i could capitalize on
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah makes sense
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you can figure stuff out about anyone in this game, so try to figure me out and push me to do gut things
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: im so 1 dimensionl
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: it's okay you'll grow really fast as long as you play mindfully
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i think your speed overwhelms me
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and i know this is a lot to talk in so don't beat yourself up if you don't get it immediately
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: even seeing one thing to captialize on is impressive
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: just start watching and observing
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and as you grow and get better, watch and observe more
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: im getting punished by things that normally i dont
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so far i've only been talking about my options to your options
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but the best thing about melee is that it transcents rps
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: my options to your optinons are influenced by other factors
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: mainly percent
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: stage position
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: etc
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if you take that into account as you grow you'll make more informed and better decisions
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so ultimately observe, take in as much info as you can, and then act
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: this game is hella hard because you get like split seconds to do it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but it's really fun and rewarding when it works out
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: aight any questions or are you ready for another
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeahh i agree
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: im ready
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: want me to tell you what i noticed or would you like to guess again
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there were 2-3 main things
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yes go ahead
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: aight so you're still running off the platform the same kind of way
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you're also rolling to center a lot in tech chases
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i started remembering that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and when you pressure ledge, you don't respect some of my getup options
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that last kill i got on you was just because i noticed how you edgeguarded me the prior stock
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: it all started with the sh fair
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: kk wanna do another
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ah okay
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ye
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: two things there
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you jump out of hitstun a lot but you kinda stopped near the end so idk if you noticed
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and also i love that you're reacting to up be start and positioning yourself to punish
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i realized
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: thats really good
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: also the WD backs were good to keep me to commit
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there was a point where i figured out i could bait you to shield grab by fading back aerialsbut then i realized crap gnw has shit aerials lol
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeahh
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: good on waiting for the jump those couple of times
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i need to space better against those bairs
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i did catch one tho but that's because i was looking for it and your only option was just risk the up-b
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: just running in to them
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye and do less shield grabs
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i'm getting behind your shield ezpz
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: doing that way too much
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you gotta wait sometimes in shield and see what i do
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah true
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if i land to grab then aerial me out of shield with a nair or something
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: just to see how you react when i do that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye ye
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: instead of playing like its single player
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: mhm
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that game was really good
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you caught on to how i drift my fairs in and respected my stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: idk why i keep fairing off the ledge after recovering
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: horrible habit
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: it's okay as long as you're aware of it
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: especially when people are low percent
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: one thing to remember
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: spot dodge doesn't move you
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you're locked in place while you do it
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeahh
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so if you want to get away from somewhere, you don't wanna do it
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeh true
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: oh i didnt say this on the dl64 game
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but wavedash back to beat my land to grab works well and im glad you did it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: surprised me that game
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: good stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ill remember that thanks
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you shield a lot after your aerials
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: just a heads up
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: also are you using trigger + a to grab?
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i do
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: for shield grabs
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: learn to use jump + z
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i boost grab and jc grab as well though
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: oh kk
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: just making sure
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: btw
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there was a lot of sequences there that are like learning points
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: like i got a grab and then techchased because i knew i couldn't get the dthrow uptilt i wanted
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i didn't have % for it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so i choose to techchase
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: right right
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: situations like that where you recognize are good
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: im not claming to be good and i went for d-throw uptilt immediately after to see if i could hit it tho and i missed
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so i let my judgement get the better of me
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: stuff happens
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i wasnt sure what would happen tbh
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ready for another
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yep
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: kinda the same stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i was trying not to come off the plats the same way
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye but you did a few times
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: better than last time tho
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: imo
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i did
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: good stuff covering my tech in place
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you're catching onto my stuff
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: still a good game, i think you didn't trust yourself on your reads in a lot of interactions
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: good stuff
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: my god i get hit by so much its crazy
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye projectiles are weird to deal with
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: im so bad at dealing with that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: what do you think you should do better that game
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: well
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: what do you think you should be doing better for the next game
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: what worked what didnt
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i think i need to think more about what you want to do
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: can you give some examples? there were some more things
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: like ill tell you one
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i got out of your d-throws a lot
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i need to
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: so focus on extending punishes there by doing something like WD back to beat my shine
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: think of how to beat tech in place
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: and the shine after yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye you beat tech in place with d-smash/upsmash
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that was good
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i really need to convert on these grabs
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: get to a percent where my moves actually can knock down
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that's a good thing to do ye
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: percent influences a lot of approaches
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i need a gameplan
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: like as fox against falco i can't approach with nair under 50% because he can cc and shine me
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i know the rough percents but not exacts
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i should learn that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there's lots of little things like that
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
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- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: i liked the jab to cover aerial anticipating my grab
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that was really clever
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ah thanks
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: sorry about the pause
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: watch out for burst movement the character
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: good shit!
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: im still so bad its disgusting
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: nah fam, you're playing well
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: wow
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: that was fucking awesome
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that was the coolest thing ive ever done
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: lmao holy
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: phantom dash attack LOL
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeahllol
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: rofl
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i love ics
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: theyre so cool
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: thats not sarcasm either
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ty
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that sh fair to cover the shine was sick
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: thanks
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: lol
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: aight i can do like 3 or so more
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: my hands are starting to hurt a bit
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: thats cool with me
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: wanna play a bo5 or something
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: sure ye
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: bf for game 1?
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: or do you wanna strike
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i kind of know the rules for stage selection
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: we can bf
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: kk
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: it's bo5 so winner gets no bans
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you can pick whichever
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ah okay
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yoshis
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: so i would choose again correct
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: okay fod
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: okie dokie
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ggs
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ggs <3
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: thank you so much for all the help
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: any questions before i go
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: np np
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yes
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: what's up
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: im trying to think exactly what i want to ask
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: LOL
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you can paraphrase it and i might figure it out
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: should i look at every interaction that fails and try to figure it out?
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: and just look at it situation by situation?
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye, you should. every time you're hit or you drop something, ask yourself why. think about each of these moments as situations
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: okay
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: eg fox is holding shield and has a habit of spot dodging
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that's a situation
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: my grab wiffed that last time i tried so i'll wait out the situation next time
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: then you grab after the spotdodge and bingo fox dies
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: okay makes sense
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: also if i know you're going to wake up shine
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye ye
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: should i dash back grab?
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: if im trying to continue the tech chase
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: plup does wd back grab
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i know percent matters
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ah okay
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you can do tilts at high% into fair
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ill watch him
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: d-tilt fair works
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: oh right tilts duh
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: f-tilt works at lower% but it's di in dependent
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ohh
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: moreso than dtilt
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: okay
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but ye going back to situations
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if you can define them for yourself
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and you find you don't have an answer to one or they counterplay the situation
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: look for the situation you defined in vods when you study
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah okay
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: like watch what plup does when people spot dodge against chaingrabs then copy that and try things out
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: also shadow boxing is really good
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: whenever you study a vod
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: do two things
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: when you watch it watch in slow motion like 0.75
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and periodically thu the vod pause
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: like in between situations
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: and ask yourself
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: okay what would I do here
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah okay
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: then if what YOU would do matches up with what PLUP does then you're probs doing the right options
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if not then lab it out and think it thu
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: alright i can do that
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you may have found a better option in certain micro situations and blah blah blah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there's a lot
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah there is
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: anymore Qs
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: kind of a general question
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: but in certain situations is it fine for me to play campy?
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye totally
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: esp if you're feeling out what your opponent wants to do
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: or you want to make them come to you
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: seeing how people interact with you when you camp can give you more information and you can do a lot with it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: there's a reason why hbox ledgecamps ppl
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: gotcha okay
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: he checks to see if they have options against it and sees what they do
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: getting a spacie over by a ledge is like the best thing you can do as puff lol
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ill work on everything and especially my punishes
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: awesome
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you have a lot of potential
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: feels so bad because when i get a spacie off stage i feel like i should kill them
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye you did kill me a couple times off ledge
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: plup m2k all the good shieks always kill them
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: well not always but
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: just see what plup does and build a flowchart
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: theyre consistent
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: like i didn't see you do sh needle at ledge
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you did it once maybe
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: but never really again
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: you generally grabbed ledge and baired me or something
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: or dsmash on stage
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: oh you're right yeah
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: those are fine just expand your arsenal
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: that's why stuff like shielddrop is so important
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeahh
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: it's a tool that opens up so many new movment possibilites
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ill keep trying to do it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: just like wavedash
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: want me to teach you shield drop really quick or do you know it
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: most of the time when i spotdodge on platforms its just failed shieldd rop
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye ye
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i know how to do it im just bad at consistently hitting it
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: on the stick press full left/right then roll the stick down into the diagnal notch before
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ive been practicing it and ill keep trying
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: below*
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: ye ye
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: oh this will help
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: when you practice shield drop
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: don't just practice it in plae
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: place
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: practice it like this
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: running
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: oh yeah out of movement?
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: shield drop out of a dash is soooooo busted
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: probs better to practice it offline but you get the idea
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: yeah i gotta practice more
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: welp anything else
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: i think thats it
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ill reread what you said
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: aight
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: lol
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: well ggs
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: ggs thank you again
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: if you want to play again add me on discord or steam
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: im 10x more active there
- ◀ [cinna (port 1)]: also play slap city it's really good
- ▶ [dope (port 2)]: lmao it looks fun
- ― Stopping game ―
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