fish: the redirect i guess
20.18 - Corvatile is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.18 - LeSwordfish: cheers hyperion thanks for the support
20.18 - Zahndah: the redirect is down isnt it
20.18 - Hyperion: it's just the map name
20.18 - Zahndah: i couldnt acess it earlier
20.18 - Hyperion: koth_fiasco
20.18 - Yrrzy: what map is it
20.18 - Yrrzy: o
20.19 - Zahndah is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.19 - abp vs the h8ters: i guess try the NY server if all else fails
20.19 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.19 - Hyperion: !tf2m fiasco
20.19 - [15]V2Bot: http://tf2maps.net/threads/fiasco.29941/
20.19 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.19 - Yrrzy: man rly the server only breaks when we need it
20.19 - Ⅎλɔɔɐw is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.19 - Hyperion: gotta get in
20.19 - Yrrzy: its like
20.19 - Crowbar: whoa, this guy released an orphan map and made requirements for it
20.19 - Tekku: Odd, I got logged out
20.19 - Yrrzy: every time stuff NEEDS to be tested
20.19 - Yrrzy: and we NEED the server
20.19 - Hyperion: from TF2M?
20.19 - Yrrzy: thats when the server breaks
20.19 - Hyperion: Happened to me too
20.20 - Crowbar: logged out today either
20.20 - Ynders: I'm here :^)
20.20 - Hyperion: I have the bsp but I cant still join
20.20 - Hyperion: finally
20.20 - Crowbar: is it like the only requirement that can be there is to credit, like, you give a map for someone to finish, why would they give a damn what YOU wanted to do with it? "it must stay frontline, keep it big" wtf dude
20.21 - Yrrzy: youre allowed to do that
20.21 - Yrrzy: youre allowed to have conditions on adopting a map
20.21 - Yrrzy: since yknow you did MAKE it
20.21 - phi @ iibo: ya you're allowed to have a closed orphaned map
20.21 - abp vs the h8ters: why does fiasco have a .nav packed in with it
20.21 - psy: what a fiasco
20.21 - phi @ iibo: if i ever orphaned any of my old maps i would make conditions for every single one
20.22 - abp vs the h8ters: that's probably what broke it
20.22 - phi @ iibo: because i don't want randos adopting them
20.22 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi) is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.22 - (ツ): hey Phi
20.22 - phi @ iibo: and saying "phi contributed to this map!!" to play attention off my name
20.22 - phi @ iibo: (happened before, never again)
20.22 - (ツ): did Pocket abandon ship on his Turbin reskin?
20.22 - (ツ): er
20.22 - (ツ): rework?
20.22 - phi @ iibo: no idea
20.22 - Ynders: lol remember when I let hq adopt rift
20.22 - Yrrzy: ask pocket?
20.22 - LeSwordfish: why do you redirect these questions at specific people
20.22 - (ツ): he dosnet respon
20.23 - abp vs the h8ters: he made it snowy and then it didn't work and he had a mental breakdown
20.23 - abp vs the h8ters: poor hq
20.23 - Crowbar: why would you ask us like we know
20.23 - Yrrzy: nobody else would know
20.23 - Yrrzy: only pocket would know
20.23 - (ツ): ok
20.23 - (ツ): lemme ask him
20.23 - (ツ): I highly doubt he'll let me work on it tho
20.23 - Crowbar: so do i tbh
20.23 - abp vs the h8ters: don't even bother asking tbh
20.24 - Yrrzy: same
20.24 - abp vs the h8ters: he won't let you
20.25 - Crowbar: who made barnblitz
20.26 - Yrrzy: valve
20.26 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi) is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.27 - Moonrat: well they did a bad job HAH
20.27 - Yrrzy: its well detailed
20.27 - phi @ iibo: bblitz is okay until the last point
20.27 - phi @ iibo: and the detailing is v nice
20.27 - Yrrzy: i really like its detailing
20.28 - phi @ iibo: ive referenced its detailing a lot
20.28 - Zahndah: i really like playing on Bb last
20.28 - Mimas Torres: peter corey made barnblitz
20.28 - Crowbar: is there a single valve made map that is really liked
20.28 - Mimas Torres: iirc
20.28 - Yrrzy: upward
20.28 - phi @ iibo: badlands
20.28 - phi @ iibo: and yeah upward
20.28 - Ynders: badwater
20.28 - (ツ): I like Landfall
20.28 - Yrrzy: pl_upward is valve's best map imo
20.28 - Moonrat: Barblitz looks pretty, but that's where the fun ends
20.28 - phi @ iibo: upward is the best map in the game tbh
20.28 - (ツ): no
20.28 - (ツ): trade_plaza is the best imo
20.28 - Yrrzy: gross
20.28 - phi @ iibo: ha ha
20.29 - (ツ): clear objectives
20.29 - abp vs the h8ters: someone just kick this man
20.29 - phi @ iibo: what a funny joke
20.29 - Yrrzy: ban
20.29 - abp vs the h8ters: i am so done
20.29 - psy: so is the test delayed indefinitely
20.29 - (ツ): im sorry if I did anything
20.29 - Yrrzy: i mean the server doesnt work
20.29 - abp vs the h8ters: that's not even a valve map
20.29 - Yrrzy: which is completely typical of a test as important as this
20.29 - ODSP disconnected.
20.29 - (ツ): wait Yrrz
20.29 - abp vs the h8ters: does the US server work?
20.30 - (ツ): which server is broke?
20.30 - LeSwordfish: the redirect is broken
20.30 - phi @ iibo: no, it's not the servers, it's the redirect
20.30 - (ツ): oh
20.30 - LeSwordfish: so you can only play if you have all the maps downloaded
20.30 - LeSwordfish: or the maps were uploaded before it broke
20.30 - ODSP entered chat.
20.30 - EwanLan entered chat.
20.31 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): So, download all the 7.2hr maps?
20.31 - abp vs the h8ters: if you really want to test just offer a mappack
20.31 - Hyperion: too complicated
20.32 - Crowbar disconnected.
20.32 - LeSwordfish: also that means that every map the three-four people without the map get chucked out
20.32 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): Are we only doing the second weekend's maps, or both weekends?
20.32 - LeSwordfish: DRP is working on fixing the redirect, so we can get testing later
20.33 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): ok
20.33 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): so
20.33 - LeSwordfish: both weekends
20.33 - psy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.33 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): Can we have an imp in the mean time :3
20.33 - Tekku is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.33 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): oh wait
20.33 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): hurrdurr
20.33 - Corvatile is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.33 - LeSwordfish: only if you only test maps that are already uploaded and take less than two hours or so
20.33 - Ⅎλɔɔɐw is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.34 - Crowbar entered chat.
20.34 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.34 - Ynders is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.34 - Hyperion: Zahn you have to admit how clever that was
20.35 - Zahndah: yeah sire
20.35 - Zahndah: sure
20.36 - psy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.36 - Corvatile is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.36 - Tekku is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.37 - Tuaam: Thinking of turning my cp map into a koth map
20.37 - Surenda_Otoko (Hosomi): The first three maps in the bot were uploaded to the server last night, if that's the problem
20.37 - (ツ): Twim
20.37 - (ツ): why
20.37 - Tuaam: Ghosy?
20.37 - Tuaam: Ghost?
20.37 - [15]V2Bot: no
20.37 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.37 - Wave entered chat.
20.37 - Crowbar: anyone want to casual
20.37 - Hyperion: ghosy ghost
20.37 - Tuaam: Nope have school tomorrow
20.37 - (ツ): Twim unless your map is uber small
20.37 - Tuaam: can't indulge myself into video games
20.37 - (ツ): i wouldnt reccoment
20.37 - (ツ): is it 3 or 5 cp?
20.37 - Tuaam: Please don't call me twim
20.37 - (ツ): ok
20.38 - Tuaam: 3 cp
20.38 - Crowbar: yo hyperion wanna casual
20.38 - Crowbar: ft. me
20.38 - (ツ): eeeeehh
20.38 - Hyperion: nah
20.38 - Hyperion: I should do homeworks
20.38 - abp vs the h8ters left chat.
20.38 - (ツ): same
20.38 - (ツ) left chat.
20.38 - Crowbar: mvm_homeworks
20.38 - Hyperion: sounds good
20.38 - Hyperion: cp_parkerssquareofamap_a1
20.39 - Crowbar: yea if I ever touch mvm then
20.39 - Crowbar: if I ever
20.39 - Tuaam: There should be an mvm frontline map with a d - day setting
20.39 - Tuaam: where the robots storm the beaches of something
20.41 - Zahndah: that could be cool tbh
20.42 - CASCADIAL entered chat.
20.43 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.44 - Crowbar disconnected.
20.45 - CASCADIAL: welp i think my steam broke im back
20.45 - Muddy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.45 - Muddy entered chat.
20.46 - Corvatile: i'm so tired and unhappy
20.46 - Crowbar entered chat.
20.46 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.46 - CASCADIAL: you guys wanna know how i lost my mind today?
20.46 - psy: dementia
20.47 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.47 - CASCADIAL: so i have a uncle with aspurgers and autism and he just dumped 2 buckets of urine on  my grandmothers new car on the wheels the hood and it just smells
20.47 - Requiem (OFFICIAL) entered chat.
20.47 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): I have a small issue
20.47 - CASCADIAL: we need to get him into a institute
20.47 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.48 - CASCADIAL: what is it requiem?
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): I honestly do not know
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): ummm
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): so
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): I spawn
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): I cannot move
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): and i cannot shoot?
20.48 - CASCADIAL: hmm
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): as in it goes RATATATATATA and leaves bullet makrs
20.48 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): but it does not consume ammo or deal damage as far as I can tell
20.49 - LeSwordfish: this doesnt sound like a map issue
20.49 - nesman entered chat.
20.49 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): ok
20.49 - EwanLan: Wait I think I know
20.49 - Crowbar is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.49 - nesman: /o/
20.49 - [15]V2Bot: \o\ to the wall
20.49 - Jethro: Are your spawnpoints directly on the floor/brush?
20.49 - EwanLan: Do you use any graphic configs?
20.49 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): yes I do use graphic configs
20.49 - EwanLan: Yep I think I know the problem now
20.50 - EwanLan: Just getting the command to fix it
20.50 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): no, my spawns are not on the brush
20.50 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): first thing I checked
20.51 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
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20.51 - EwanLan: host_thread_mode is a command that is usually known to ruin listen servers very often
20.51 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): ok, what do I need?
20.51 - EwanLan: If it is set to 2 then you won't be able to move
20.51 - EwanLan: just set it to 0
20.52 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): ty
20.52 - EwanLan: np
20.52 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.52 - EwanLan: Just for reference here is what host_thread_mode 2 causes on listen servers
20.52 - EwanLan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZDtcDq-iQ
20.53 - Ⅎλɔɔɐw left chat.
20.53 - Hyperion: wtf
20.53 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.53 - Crowbar: requiem if it helps I remember dev commentary having such bug
20.53 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.53 - Crowbar is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.54 - Requiem (OFFICIAL) is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.54 - nesman: !maps
20.54 - [15]V2Bot: plr_gravel_a3 , ad_launch_a2 , arena_shrine_a2 , koth_darren72_a5 , koth_creep_a7 , koth_industry_a3 , pl_sunrise_a6 , koth_canyonpass_a1 , arena_dog3_72b , arena_guerilla_a1b (and 5 more...)
20.54 - Tuaam: FUCKING map design
20.54 - Crowbar: wait wtf borneo didnt i exclude
20.54 - nesman: !update
20.54 - Crowbar: it
20.54 - Tuaam: I LOVE it
20.54 - nesman: how to use update xD
20.55 - nesman: is it name then link?
20.55 - Requiem (OFFICIAL): yep
20.55 - xtrem_gh is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.55 - nesman: no old name??
20.55 - xtrem_gh is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.55 - abp vs the h8ters entered chat.
20.55 - nesman: like update old new link
20.56 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
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20.56 - Muddy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.56 - Anguish: !maps
20.56 - [15]V2Bot: plr_gravel_a3 , ad_launch_a2 , arena_shrine_a2 , koth_darren72_a5 , koth_creep_a7 , koth_industry_a3 , pl_sunrise_a6 , koth_canyonpass_a1 , arena_dog3_72b , arena_guerilla_a1b (and 5 more...)
20.56 - Tuaam: Guys
20.57 - Tuaam: What does hillary do
20.57 - nesman: nothing...
20.57 - Yrrzy: ???
20.57 - Tuaam: Like, I barely hear about Hillary and Trump
20.57 - Tuaam: the last thing I watched about Hillary was that meme thing
20.57 - phi @ iibo: o boy
20.57 - Yrrzy: shrug
20.57 - Ynders: pls no politics pls
20.57 - LeSwordfish: yeah lets not
20.57 - Tuaam: OKAY
20.57 - Tuaam: Sorry caps m8
20.58 - Tuaam: Let's talk about something else then.
20.58 - nesman: how to use !update
20.58 - Tuaam: !update
20.58 - abp vs the h8ters: is there an eta on the directdl fix
20.58 - EwanLan disconnected.
20.58 - Tuaam: Directdl?
20.58 - nesman: is it <old name> <new name> <link>
20.58 - Tuaam: As in, direct x?
20.58 - Ynders: I think so
20.58 - Tuaam: Yeah I think it's that
20.58 - abp vs the h8ters: no tuaam
20.59 - Requiem (OFFICIAL) is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
20.59 - nesman: !delete koth_industry_a3
20.59 - [15]V2Bot: Map 'koth_industry_a3' DELETED.
20.59 - [4] VBot.exe has changed their name to [14]V2Bot.
20.59 - nesman: !add koth_industry_a4 https://tf2maps.net/downloads/koth_industry.2596/download?version=5674
20.59 - Ynders disconnected.
20.59 - [15]V2Bot: Map 'koth_industry_a4' added.
20.59 - [4] VBot.exe has changed their name to [15]V2Bot.
20.59 - CASCADIAL disconnected.
20.59 - Donut the Vikingchap: DE_STROYED
20.59 - Ynders entered chat.
20.59 - CASCADIAL entered chat.
20.59 - nesman: when the 7.2 hr map imping
21.00 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.00 - Ynders: we were going to but the redirect is borked
21.00 - Mimas Torres disconnected.
21.00 - Hi5TBone disconnected.
21.00 - LeSwordfish: drp and geit are working on fixing it
21.00 - Requiem (OFFICIAL) disconnected.
21.00 - ::Egan:: disconnected.
21.00 - Ynders: so whenever that's fixed
21.00 - nesman: k
21.00 - abp vs the h8ters: is there an eta on that
21.00 - Requiem (OFFICIAL) entered chat.
21.00 - Hi5TBone entered chat.
21.00 - LeSwordfish: not really abp: hopefully not more than an hour
21.00 - Mimas Torres entered chat.
21.00 - ::Egan:: entered chat.
21.01 - abp vs the h8ters: ok thanks
21.01 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.02 - Anguish: Okay, I figured out what's adding about 10 minutes onto my compile time
21.02 - Exactol is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.02 - Anguish: my portal files
21.02 - Qt Cherry entered chat.
21.02 - Anguish: Last time I looked at my portal file I think i passed out
21.02 - Mimas Torres: so did vvis
21.03 - psy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.05 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.05 - Mimas Torres: so the UI for compilepal is well on its way to getting updated for next version
21.05 - Tekku is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
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21.05 - psy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.05 - Mimas Torres: I'm excited
21.05 - psy: neat
21.05 - Requiem (OFFICIAL) left chat.
21.06 - psy: does it have a make map button yet
21.06 - Wave is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.06 - Zahndah: generate random vmf
21.06 - Mimas Torres: maybe for the version after that
21.06 - Ten_Tacles: That would be hilarious
21.06 - Ten_Tacles: A random map generator
21.08 - Zahndah: it would have to be controlled random probably
21.08 - Ynders: I thought about doing a jokemap that has a set of "cells"  and picks a random room for each cell of the map
21.08 - Zahndah: else it wouldnt be very exciting
21.08 - Ynders: but I don't know if it would even work, not to mention stickies would roll around
21.08 - Ynders: and lighting wouldn't work
21.09 - Ynders: well actually maybe it would idk
21.09 - Ten_Tacles: Write a programm that builds maps with predefined rooms or something
21.09 - Zahndah: just make a bunch of hexagonal rooms and tile them to make a honeycomb map
21.09 - Zahndah: and all the doors between rooms are sliders
21.09 - xtrem_gh is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.10 - Zahndah: i might do that actually
21.10 - xtrem_gh is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.11 - Mimas Torres: omg, so many people having paking issues
21.11 - Zahndah: use compilepal  https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/economy/emoticon/B1
21.11 - nesman: vide
21.11 - nesman: vide works
21.11 - Mimas Torres: I swear people these days start using custom models before they've even sealed their map
21.11 - Zahndah: yeah, compilepal is automagic
21.12 - abp vs the h8ters: it's because of frontline
21.12 - Zahndah: ^
21.12 - psy: frontline ruined everything
21.12 - Zahndah: meaning huge filesizes because people use literally every model they can
21.12 - Mimas Torres: I wish people would make maps for the sake of making maps and not frontline
21.13 - Mimas Torres: this is just sad
21.13 - abp vs the h8ters: people see frontline as a way of going official
21.13 - Anguish is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.13 - Mimas Torres: yeah good frickin luck
21.13 - Yrrzy: i use some frontline assets cause theyre neat but i cant force my map into the theme
21.14 - Moonrat: I have yet to use any of them
21.14 - abp vs the h8ters: i don't blame them because it's almost impossible anyway
21.14 - abp vs the h8ters: and frontline gives them a little of a chance
21.14 - Hyperion: using fornline props in alpha basially means that you are blocking sightlines with them
21.14 - Yrrzy: like i totally could but i dont want to cause i give a shit about my theme
21.14 - Moonrat: I like some of the generic assets in the pack quite a bit, but I haven't stcuk them in any of my maps
21.14 - Anguish: I use the frontline bunker textures because they look absolutely amazing
21.14 - Corvatile: new crowbcat video on old halo vs new halo
21.14 - Yrrzy: forreal tho the frontline stuff all around is giving people inspiration and ideas
21.14 - Yrrzy: its just a lot of the same
21.15 - Mimas Torres: I like the vehicles but the rest is meh
21.15 - abp vs the h8ters: like i would like to make dauphin frontline, but i was planning to have a ww base before that anyway
21.15 - abp vs the h8ters: so
21.15 - abp vs the h8ters: it just means i don't have to ask for models as much as i might have
21.15 - Exactol: I like all the new windows
21.15 - Crowbar is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
21.16 - Mimas Torres: the town stuff is neat but pretty specific
21.17 - Yrrzy: the new consoles are neat for spytech
21.17 - Yrrzy: the new autumn stuff is neat too
21.17 - Zahndah: i like the deadgrass in bagel, so i used it in saluto
21.17 - Exactol: the colours seem kindof off on the trees/leaves
21.18 - Yrrzy: i made my own blend for bagel atm
21.18 - Zahndah: well, its similar to the deadgrass
21.18 - Tuaam: We need a spytech prop pack
21.18 - Yrrzy: deadgrass is yukon
21.18 - Yrrzy: i used the autumn grass a bit
21.18 - Yrrzy: but replacced it later w/ granary grass
21.18 - Tuaam: I really like this new map I'm making that's not concrete
21.18 - Tuaam: Like, I can utilize more props than usual
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