[5:52 AM] FellFromtheSky: So this article: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/when-game-freak-got-lazy-the-worst-pokemon-designs-of-all-time.3605487/
[5:52 AM] FellFromtheSky: I get that it's subjective
[5:53 AM] FellFromtheSky: but I feel like it lacks a lot of...
[5:53 AM] FellFromtheSky: well
[5:53 AM] FellFromtheSky: understanding of how one actually conceptualizes or designs
[5:53 AM] FellFromtheSky: something fantastical
[5:53 AM] FellFromtheSky: i.e.
[5:53 AM] FellFromtheSky: a pokemon
[5:55 AM] FellFromtheSky: Like, the writing style is entertaining
[5:57 AM] FellFromtheSky: But I find some of it not that tasteful
[5:57 AM] FellFromtheSky: I guess it just sort of rubs me the wrong way
[6:06 AM] bee47: @FellFromtheSky could you elaborate
[6:07 AM] FellFromtheSky: I mean, in JAPE, we often give negative reviews of Pokemon designs
[6:07 AM] FellFromtheSky: but they're typically well-balanced with positive ones
[6:07 AM] FellFromtheSky: This feels all very negative
[6:08 AM] FellFromtheSky: plus, I feel like it makes light of work that might have been pretty taxing for the designers
[6:08 AM] FellFromtheSky: I feel it's bad to call it "lazy"
[6:08 AM] FellFromtheSky: when it's not necessarily the case
[6:09 AM] FellFromtheSky: I mean
[6:09 AM] FellFromtheSky: It's supposed to be humorous
[6:09 AM] FellFromtheSky: and it's not a huge deal
[6:09 AM] FellFromtheSky: I just wanted to mention that it did give me a distinctly negative vibe
[6:12 AM] bee47: i agree
[6:12 AM] FellFromtheSky: I'm not sure it's really my place to comment though
[6:12 AM] FellFromtheSky: I'm not QC or anything
[6:13 AM] FellFromtheSky: Uhh, I suppose I'll ask @plumberjack
[6:13 AM] FellFromtheSky: I think all it needs is to be a little less negative and a little more lighthearted
[6:14 AM] FellFromtheSky: To qualify some of what they're saying, perhaps
[6:17 AM] bee47: yeah i am not a fan of this design is complete shit without counterbalancing thay
[6:17 AM] bee47: that**
[6:19 AM] FellFromtheSky: Yeah, take the Lumineon section, for instance
[6:20 AM] FellFromtheSky: Like, they say it's super uninspired and the most boring of fish 'mons and that the only thing GF gave us was that "this deep-sea Pokémon lives at the bottom of the sea."
[6:22 AM] FellFromtheSky: But they neglect to even mention its bioluminescence (which is actually depicted in its 3ds model) or its basis on the marine hatchetfish, butterfly fish, or tripod fish(edited)
[6:23 AM] FellFromtheSky: They also neglect to mention its competition with Lanturn
[6:23 AM] FellFromtheSky: Or that it apparently preys on Starmie
[6:24 AM] FellFromtheSky: anywaaaaaay
[6:24 AM] kielbasa bossa: what the FUCK
[6:24 AM] kielbasa bossa: they said golem is ugly
[6:24 AM] kielbasa bossa: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[6:24 AM] kielbasa bossa: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[6:24 AM] FellFromtheSky: a similar analysis could be made of most of their other write-ups
[6:24 AM] FellFromtheSky: I just find it to be in poor taste
[6:24 AM] kielbasa bossa: they said dedenne is ugly
[6:24 AM] FellFromtheSky: very negative(edited)
[6:24 AM] kielbasa bossa: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee
[6:25 AM] FellFromtheSky: Another thing I think that makes this much worse than the negative reviews in JAPE
[6:25 AM] FellFromtheSky: is that it's by one singular person
[6:26 AM] kielbasa bossa: yeah
[6:26 AM] kielbasa bossa: id love to write somrthing similar
[6:26 AM] FellFromtheSky: it's presented as an authoritative list
[6:26 AM] kielbasa bossa: but it would be shite to read
[6:26 AM] kielbasa bossa: ya
[6:26 AM] FellFromtheSky: on an obviously very subjective topic
[6:27 AM] kielbasa bossa: wow
[6:27 AM] kielbasa bossa: he hates unown
[6:27 AM] kielbasa bossa: ban dbw
[6:28 AM] kielbasa bossa: he hates nidoki--- :blobfacepalm:
[6:28 AM] kielbasa bossa: he HATES ELECTRODE
[6:28 AM] kielbasa bossa: reeee
[6:28 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: uh
[6:28 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: ok
[6:28 AM] kielbasa bossa: im mad dbw
[6:29 AM] FellFromtheSky: Oh uh
[6:29 AM] FellFromtheSky: I didn't realize the author was on this server
[6:29 AM] FellFromtheSky: Ummm
[6:29 AM] kielbasa bossa: dbw u should join jape if u havent already
[6:29 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: nah those are some good points
[6:29 AM] kielbasa bossa: its a better format for writeups like this imo
[6:29 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: ty
[6:30 AM] FellFromtheSky: Yeah, JAPE is a much better setting for this
[6:31 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: hmm
[6:31 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: alright(edited)
[6:31 AM] FellFromtheSky: for one, it's immediately obvious that what's written is the opinion of individuals
[6:32 AM] FellFromtheSky: whereas this format, with one singular author, makes it seem as though this list is authoritative in someway
[6:32 AM] FellFromtheSky: which is of course ridiculous
[6:32 AM] FellFromtheSky: but that's how it comes across
[6:32 AM] FellFromtheSky: It's well written though
[6:32 AM] kielbasa bossa: vanilluxe being bad is authoritative
[6:32 AM] FellFromtheSky: I like the style
[6:32 AM] DeathByWobbuffet: I appreciate the feedback