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  3. The last time I was tempbanned, it wasn't in my best interests to defend myself, but this time I practically have to.
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  6. - I’m not a repeat offender. If I were a repeat offender, I would have been warned the first time.
  7. - I added to the post that Winter should PM me. If the mod just didn’t want argument, they could have edited the post.
  8. - Plenty of other people have said worse things to me in the past. In my vulnerable, young state, Koko, a mod, pinned one of my quotes because I was trying to defend myself. No one came rushing to my aid like they did with Winter.
  9. - Does Winter have any friends? I have people on YCM who have seen my progress and want me to be there, but I can't say the same for Winter. Who here wants Winter to be here?
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  11. My first post:
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  13. This is the second time you’ve made the minority group of a particular aggressor or group of aggressors the most important part of a death. I don’t know if you’re trying to be edgy or if you genuinely have disdain for minorities, but this and the illegal immigrant thing completely uncover your facade of not having an agenda.
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  15. I know you love being passive-aggressive when you make posts like these and don’t add your own comments other than “how sad :(“ so that you look like a neutral party, but I also know that you’re more cunning than just being neutral. You’re trying to subtly undermine our conventions regarding stereotypes by focusing our attention on the minority group at hand rather than the actual crime, because you want to “trigger feminists.”
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  17. If this woman really was concerned about AIDs, she would be thankful that gay pornstars always have to wear condoms and should request that her co-star wear a condom during filming. Furthermore, she shouldn’t have stereotyped that all gays have AIDs and expected the community to react in a positive way.
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  19. And as if the gay community wasn’t burned alive for being gay a couple hundred or so years ago, and as if we’re still not being thrown off buildings to this day, this girl being uncomfortable around gays comes first.
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  21. I decided not to make a huge fuss out of the first time you did this, which was when an illegal immigrant killed a woman and was acquitted, but this time I’m predicting a pattern.
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  23. Just know that plenty of people are told to take a cyanide pill every day, whether by others or by themselves, and they have careers and honors to make up for it. Maybe I’d be more sympathetic if you hadn’t posted this, but I can tell based on your tendency to post political statuses and act like you don’t want to take a side that there are alterior motives.
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  25. Edit: okay Jaxton Wheeler seems sort of like a not very spectacular person when it comes to minority issues himself so perhaps it’s a pot calling kettle black situation. I stand by my theories regarding your behavior, but this doesn’t seem as much of her fault as I thought
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  27. EDIT EDIT: I can’t link the video but holy shit he is a bitch
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  29. Winter's Response:
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  31. yeh I blame the aggressor for the aggression, bite me
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  33. [he edited his post after I went to bed, but it was originally something about me being too young to understand "real homophobia"]
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  35. Last time I blamed a man who had no right being in this county, an Illegal Immigrant, who re-entered the country six times after he was deported, and then illegally got a gun and shot a girl. I blame the Justice system for letting that man go to spite the president. But thankfully the feds are also prosecuting him. May he rot in some dark hole :)
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  37. The gay support brigade here targeted this young woman because she was concerned about having sex with a man who acted in gay porn. Are you a misogynist? She had every right to turn down having sex with any man for any reason she pleased. Who are you to second guess that? Sit down. If anyone is triggering feminists, it's you with that pro-rape culture attitude.
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  39. Oh man, so facts can be homophobic now.
  40. https://www.cdc.gov/.../msm/index.html
  41.  Try squaring with reality. "Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men account for 70% of new HIV infections in the United States" Maybe accept that our community has a problem with safe sex instead of pretending that others are at fault for being reluctant to intermingle in that mess?
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  43. Cali recently passed a law decriminalizing transmission of AIDS
  44. http://www.latimes.c...-htmlstory.html
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  46. Condoms don't have a 100% or even close to that effective rate (70% effectiveness)
  47. http://www.catie.ca/...vention/condoms
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  49. https://www.everyday...-treatment.aspx
  50. Aids medicine is costly and would bankrupt most people. But I suppose that doesn't matter if faux integration is the goal
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  52. Again, she had no obligation to answer to arm chair SJWs like you. Have a hot cup of fuck you, I'm not done with you yet :)
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  54. Have you really forgotten this is exactly that kinda stuff people used to do to us? Back when homosexuality wasn't accepted. They'd find us, out us, and drive us from jobs. Were you really so young you forgot all that in the mid 2000's? Or is that too intellectually honest for you to accept
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  56. K? I don't care if you feel sympathy or not. A young woman is dead because people like you are as intolerant as the people you profess to fight against
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  58. In conclusion, you can report my post all you want, but fuck off dude. This sorta tribal wagon circling will do more damage to our community than this poor woman could have
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  60. My second post:
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  62. So you’ve created a strawman, rambled about some kind of internalized homophobia, and tried to belittle me all in one post, none of which actually boils down to a counter argument. I must say, I’m disappointed.
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  64. What I was pointing out is that you seem to love acting conservative, whether you are or not. You love being the dark horse of the forum, and in order to do that, you’re willing to frame entire groups of people as aggressors against innocents. Then when I call you out on it, you act as though it’s the fault of other people—who behave in this same manner, mind you—for making you feel bad.
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  66. Remember, the word “fag” is supposed to mean “stick,” and it was appropriated to be a gay slur during the Salem witch trials. This is because homosexuals were not burned at the stake, but rather thrown into the fire as kindling because we weren’t even as worthy as witches. So you’ve created a strawman, rambled about some kind of internalized homophobia, and tried to belittle me all in one post, none of which actually boils down to a counter argument. I must say, I’m disappointed.
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  68. What I was pointing out is that you seem to love acting conservative, whether you are or not. You love being the dark horse of the forum, and in order to do that, you’re willing to frame entire groups of people as aggressors against innocents. Then when I call you out on it, you act as though it’s the fault of other people—who behave in this same manner, mind you—for making you feel bad.
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  70. If you think I don’t recognize homophobia, or if you think I am hugely sad that a homophobe no longer breathes, you are mistaken. But the point is that you have been constantly, contrarily acting like some sort of shitlord for notoriety.
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  72. It probably sounds like I’m on a high horse, and for that I apologize. If I had it my way, we would get along. But shit like this makes it difficult not to question your authenticity, and wonder what kind of substance there even is in posts like this.
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  74. What if Leslie Jones had killed herself over being called a nigger by myriad people over twitter? Didn’t she make herself more vulnerable than this woman, who pretty much made an uneducated statement and expected no consequences? And besides, I dont see any other examples of users cyberbullying her. If all it takes is one guy, who can just be blocked, pathetically dedicating so much time and energy to her, to make her kill herself, what WOUDLN’T kill her?
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  76. But does any of this matter now that I see through you? Can you possibly come up with reasoning better than a shitty one-liner? Or is your inward hatred projected outward so strong that you’re not capable of reconciling?
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  78. Please don’t take this bluntly. I know I sound uppity and pretentious, but my goal is to be earnest and stern. If you are willing to take this seriously and do better than you’ve done then I won’t hate you for trying, nor should anyone else here. I know I’m making a huge deal of this, but it seems like a learning opportunity for all of us, and if it comes to worst, then it’s a copypasta.
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  80. Also, I started writing this before Zai posted, so if PM conversation helps preserve the topic then do so.
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  82. Winter's 2nd Post (after I had gone offline and fallen asleep, also after Zai said to stop talking about it)
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  84. My inward hatred allowed me to be openly out in a red state back when everyone from Obama to Clinton were all on the "one man one woman" train
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  86. You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop before you embarrass yourself further
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  88. Dad's response
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  90. Yeah this isn't happening.  This went from interesting to hatred and flaming in a matter of an hour or so while I was away.  I'm locking this because this isn't debates and it's clear that moving it would only cause it to further devolve.  
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  92. And I s a a c you'll be hearing from me tomorrow.  Your behavior in this thread was utterly unacceptable[citation needed].  Winter, you need to cool off.  I can't believe y'all couldn't address this like adults.  Not that I expected that from YCM.
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  94. 12/7/2017
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  96. I s a a c has been issued a two-week suspension for their involvement with anti-Semetic trolling with Enguin and an inappropriate rant in General.
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