[21:53] [Theblackahsa]: yo m8, i apologize for sounding upset when you whispered me. that was unprofessional of me. i still stand by what i wrote, but that still doesnt explain my tone towards you
[21:55] To [Theblackahsa]: u dont have to apologize. what u really have to do (in my opinion) is to change raiding atmosphere. best raiders just leave otherwise.
[21:56] [Theblackahsa]: the others think i was in my full right to replace those who was holding us back. im sorry but if you dont like my leading and that i expect people to not fuck around then maybe this isnt working
[21:56] To [Theblackahsa]: i personally have no idea how to do RL job, but i'm convinced, that relaxed people can better concentrate and perform
[21:56] [Theblackahsa]: i wouldnt say the silence is cause of me. people are allowed to talk if they want to when clearing trash.. during boss fight i expect focus ofc.
[21:57] To [Theblackahsa]: silence is totally fine in my opinion.
[21:57] [Theblackahsa]: RL is okay. ive set the standard and told people what i expect from them. and if they cant do that they dont raid, they sit out. remember in the very beginning where you did perform bad, zero dps and died ? i did bench you. i did explain to you why
[21:58] [Theblackahsa]: same deal with scar. i understand that he is upset. tho you dont know half of it.. he has failed trial 2 times. he isnt one i see as a raider in my main raid. so yesterday was stupid of me to take him in. that one is 100 % my fault.
[21:58] [Theblackahsa]: since if i didnt take him in it didnt happen
[21:59] [Theblackahsa]: and now we're at it.. i am sure you know about beefy left.. you do realise that he did ragequit when i told him in a nice way to tone it down on him talking about his dps 24/7. dont believe me, i got screenshots that you can see. he justs says okay and
[21:59] [Theblackahsa]: gquit.
[22:00] [Theblackahsa]: so if you think my leading is that terrible then no prob. i dont have a gun towards you . i am not forcing you or anyone to raid or be in a guild if they feel its a bad place or atmoshere. i only expect in main raid that people arent fucking around.
[22:01] To [Theblackahsa]: dude. im here in wow not to participate in any kind of drama or long talks about relations between ppl. im here to learn more about mechanics and actually perform better.
[22:01] To [Theblackahsa]: stress that is present in the raid is not fun. and i know that it is not fun for like 60% of raiders.
[22:02] [Theblackahsa]: and you are learning. im just telling you why those left / got mad. since i can hear from you that you feel im the bad guy
[22:03] [Theblackahsa]: so far ive whispered all raiders. all seem to agree that it was annoying that we kept wiping to aggramar last night due to a few people holding us back. they felt it was fair that i several wipes did bench them. they didnt feel i was a dick but fair.
[22:06] To [Theblackahsa]: there 2 approaches. rather we work with people we have and train them (i strongly believe that this game is easy, just have to wait that people get it). or we constantly change raiding team. i can't see us doing anything mythic with the second approach.
[22:06] [Theblackahsa]: my friend Denis. you have no idea how much ive tried to help scar
[22:06] [Theblackahsa]: he is too STUBBORN
[22:07] [Theblackahsa]: you do know i rape him on my hunter with 1 leggo, and shit gear. and im +20 itemlevel below him. i do like 20 % better than him
[22:07] [Theblackahsa]: ive told him many times wtf to do.. even bramish (old guildie who's taking a break due to RL stuff) has also tried and help him
[22:08] To [Theblackahsa]: sometimes a small drop of respect does magic. people WILL perform better.
[22:08] [Theblackahsa]: he keeps believing those casual noob guides he finds are "legit" and works. where i am telling him to do this rotation but he ignores it
[22:08] [Theblackahsa]: Denis dont even go there. you say i dont show respect. tell me how i dont show respect?
[22:08] [Theblackahsa]: i give him 2 trials .. i let him stay for trial for long time, spend time trying to tell him in a nice way how to do rotation .. (before you even joined)
[22:08] [Theblackahsa]: i even let him join the main raid as a failed trial because i like him.
[22:09] [Theblackahsa]: cause i want him to get curve.
[22:09] [Theblackahsa]: he did ask me if he could get it since he cant get it via pug and i told him np.
[22:09] [Theblackahsa]: so please do not tell me i dont have respect. i think what everyone besides apperently you, beefy, keen and fleekz can say. is that i do show respect and i am a fair person eventho i come off as a dick. i am always fair
[22:10] To [Theblackahsa]: that's a bit insider info, but i know, that when he was happy getting legendary logs for normal boss, you did not support him. those small things just accomulate and ppl become stressed.
[22:10] [Theblackahsa]: he's got one on soulhunter. i did tell him its nice to see he did do well in normal
[22:10] [Theblackahsa]: like i admit i didnt throw a party and go nuts. but i do acknowledge
[22:11] [Theblackahsa]: also those 1-2 times he has actually done good in hc. ive told him that it was nice to see him do good
[22:11] [Theblackahsa]: and do rotation.
[22:11] [Theblackahsa]: im pretty sure scar apperently forgets all the nice stuff ive said and done for him.
[22:11] [Theblackahsa]: im sure you also dont remember those nice things ive said to you when you've done good yeah?
[22:13] To [Theblackahsa]: i remember, that you wanted more from me, that i could have possibly give to the raid group
[22:13] [Theblackahsa]: yea at the very start where i did tell you that you needed to improve before coming back?
[22:13] [Theblackahsa]: remember ziippo ?
[22:14] [Theblackahsa]: i told him to try and help you, give you tip and support you since i am not an expert in balance druid
[22:14] [Theblackahsa]: erentha did also help you a lot and i told her that if she needed anything on the helping to tell me. so dont get it twisted m8
[22:16] To [Theblackahsa]: m8. people talk about stress in the raid. it shall be a signal for you somehow. im obviously not your mother to teach you. just take into account some feedback
[22:16] [Theblackahsa]: funny i havent heard about that. only thing ive heard from the raid is that they are tired of wiping on aggramar due to personal mistakes.
[22:17] [Theblackahsa]: but m8 i think its best we go our seperate ways . since you feel i am a horriable leader so there's no reason for you to be here and raiding under me.
[22:17] To [Theblackahsa]: that was funny)
[22:19] [Theblackahsa]: no i was being serious. i dont hear people complain over me.  only ones are you, beefy,fleekz and scar ..
[22:19] To [Theblackahsa]: so once again. why do you propose me to leave? because i said, that there is a stress in a raid?
[22:19] [Theblackahsa]: cause you seem to be unhappy here and i get the impression of you dont like my leading?
[22:20] To [Theblackahsa]: so instead of considering my feedback you prefer to remove a person? does this tactics have a future?
[22:21] To [Theblackahsa]: insider info. its is really not only scar, beefy and fleekz, that were stressed.
[22:22] [Theblackahsa]: i do take the feedback that you dont like my style which is fair enough. but i dont really see why you should be here if you are unhappy. like you havent really answered my question
[22:23] [Theblackahsa]: but i still feel that its you who feel this way. and not others besides those names ive mentioned. cause ive talked to the others.. and i trust them that they are honest with me and arent fearing me. lmao
[22:25] To [Theblackahsa]: ofc they are afraid of you. because you love to demonstrate your power.
[22:25] To [Theblackahsa]: im not joking here
[22:25] [Theblackahsa]: and personally i dont see any solution. as nothing i say seems to make you understand that im a fair person. and that i got some guidelines in main raid. and the way you picture this. is that the raid is about to burn to hell.. the guild is dying and etc.
[22:26] [Theblackahsa]: yea cause im so evil ive kicked so many people like..... hmm cant remember when ive kicked a person from guild, removed a person from raid (besides last night) and shouted at people in raid
[22:26] [Theblackahsa]: well ive kicked people who's been offline for +1 month. but that doesnt really count.. ?
[22:27] To [Theblackahsa]: well. my mission is done. i shared my feedback. consider it serious or not
[22:27] [Theblackahsa]: yea np. again you cant even answer my questions which is sad m8
[22:28] To [Theblackahsa]: what question?
[22:28] [Theblackahsa]: uhm i dont know. scroll up and see what i was asking you?
[22:29] To [Theblackahsa]: its not serious. what part of our conversation you find incomplete?
[22:30] [Theblackahsa]: you havent really answered how im a dick or mean, when im letting a person who failed trial twice, who dont listen to feedback , tips and suggestion to improve. but instead is too stubborn and does it his way.
[22:30] [Theblackahsa]: join hc to get curve
[22:31] [Theblackahsa]: to join us now since i figured it wouldnt hurt us. that im doing out of my good will, a person that isnt orginally allowed to raid as he isnt a raider / trial.
[22:32] [Theblackahsa]: how am i mean when i bench people when i feel thats nessesary for us to go ahead and get the kill.  like was i a dick when i benched you in the first raid where you were terrible? where i whispered you
[22:32] [Theblackahsa]: and told you that i couldnt have you for more than what was it, first 3 bosses (up to portal boss)
[22:32] [Theblackahsa]: having zippoo look into you
[22:32] [Theblackahsa]: to try and help you
[22:33] To [Theblackahsa]: m8. you expect people to be good when they deal with mechanics for the first time. it is simply not realistic
[22:34] To [Theblackahsa]: when i failed with necrotic @ hc vari i literally recieved this thing for the first time ever. and you supposed that i was farming this boss 24/7 or what?
[22:35] [Theblackahsa]: also you havent answered how i am with the demonstrate power. like who have i kicked / shouted at / benched (besides last night) since i love showing my power..
[22:35] To [Theblackahsa]: you demonstrate the power by saying "how difficult can it be to do XXX"
[22:35] [Theblackahsa]: okay the necrotic on your first time fair enough we wiped. and i didnt really shout at you. i think i just told you that remember to get out to either marks when you get it?
[22:36] [Theblackahsa]: lmao is that me bemonstrate power? that is what makes me so evil and so terifying, telling people who has killed the boss before "how hard can it be to just focus" ? wow :| i can see i am an asshole.
[22:37] To [Theblackahsa]: every time you correct a person, it really feels like you say "omg you are so useless and shitty". for me it is fine, because im a calm person and i don't care. but beefy, keen, fleekz and scar - they were no that resistant
[22:38] [Theblackahsa]: funny fact i told beefy to go up on portal boss. you know what he said in the discord.. "no that will never happen i am staying down" where i did let that go
[22:39] [Theblackahsa]: keen? i fucking loved that guy's performance.. wtf are you on about? i even told you both when you guys came back again and started raiding together. that you both were doing great
[22:39] To [Theblackahsa]: yes, that was a strange move from him. i remember. but he was literally the best person to be downstairs
[22:39] [Theblackahsa]: yea and that was fair. i would had expected him saying before teh pull when i told him to be up to say something like
[22:40] [Theblackahsa]: can i stay down since bla bla
[22:41] [Theblackahsa]: no offence fleekz was shit. dying from not moving out of shit. and she keeps talking bullshit that i am standing in shit and dying 24/7. without she actually looks at logs and see what i died from as well as scar.. i died inside pod last night.. oh yes
[22:41] To [Theblackahsa]: you also send me in the pods already twice on my best encounter = on high command. i dont even need gear, im there to perfection my rotation on multitarget. ofc im not happy about that
[22:41] [Theblackahsa]: thats me being a noob ofc dying at 7 stacks since i went in to assist..
[22:41] [Theblackahsa]: ah so i see.. you rather wanna stay out and do aoe on 3rd pod where there's no aoe instead of going in pod and be a teamplayer like the other of us?
[22:42] [Theblackahsa]: i got news for you. more or less all raiders  (raider rank and core) do not need gear. yet they do show up cause they seem to like the raid.
[22:42] [Theblackahsa]: otherwise why would they join a raid they are terifying being at and stressful? there's 190 other guilds that are ahead of us progression wise.
[22:43] [Theblackahsa]: but yet they dont mind going in pods. since they just want to kill the boss..  its a shit boss for % if you go in pod. i went in 2 times and i got green %
[22:43] To [Theblackahsa]: well. we obviously have different information about how ppl feel in the raid.
[22:44] [Theblackahsa]: yea we do.. like without being disrespectful i dont believe others than etc you (dunno if you feel that way) but then yea fleekz, keen , scar and beefy are the one who did find it stressful and so on
[22:44] [Theblackahsa]: since the rest has been there for ages.. they are showing up. they are coming.. eventho they dont need to. they could take a break
[22:45] [Theblackahsa]: for me that says they like it.. would you go to something you didnt like, if you werent forced to? im guessing no. same deal with the others m8
[22:46] To [Theblackahsa]: well. i planned to ask you to demote me to socials today anyways. i would say it is good solution in current situation.
[22:47] [Theblackahsa]: i think its best if you join keen, beefy and fleekz to where they are going m8
[22:48] [Theblackahsa]: and i say this cause i feel you will only bring drama from this stage cause the way you feel about me, which i cant do anything to change and im not gonan bother.. some people dont like me and i accept that, but i dont want anything to do with them simple
[22:48] [Theblackahsa]: as that.
[22:48] [Theblackahsa]: ill let you say bye to the guildies then you can leave
[22:49] To [Theblackahsa]: you are a funny person
[22:49] [Theblackahsa]: thank you.
[22:49] [Theblackahsa]: my friends thinks that about me as well !
[22:52] [Theblackahsa]: but anyway i wasnt joking about it. if you wanna say bye to guildies you can do it now otherwise be kind and leave the guild Denis. i dont wish to have you in the guild and i dont see any reason why you should be when you dont like the way i do things.
[22:52] To [Theblackahsa]: do it
[22:52] [Theblackahsa]: okay so you really dont wanna say bye to guildies ?
[22:52] To [Theblackahsa]: you planned to remove me - do it then
[22:53] [Theblackahsa]: yea i planned on doing it now since talking to you didnt really solve anything.
[22:57] To [Theblackahsa]: =) you appeared to be a coward)
[22:58] [Theblackahsa]: whatever. anything else you wanna say Denis?
[22:58] [Theblackahsa]: or you just wanna play big behind the screen?
[22:59] To [Theblackahsa]: you know i say the truth
[23:00] [Theblackahsa]: not really
[23:01] [Theblackahsa]: if people are scared why do they join raid? zero logic. its only beefy, fleekz keen, you, and scar whos got a problem with me.  rest dont have a problem funny enough.
[23:01] To [Theblackahsa]: ignore my feedback and you will continue loosing ppl from main raid
[23:03] [Theblackahsa]: sure thing m8. and keep on hating me with your groups.  im sure you guys will be happy dedicating your lifes on that
[23:03] [Theblackahsa]: btw say hi to my friend ignore life's too short to talk to a person as delusional as you.