Devil's Knot (2014) EN

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(SCHOOL BELL RINGING)

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<i>Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right for you</i>

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<i>That's all right, Mama
Just any way you do</i>

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You sing real good, Stevie.

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I'm gonna buy you a Graceland, Mama.
Just like Elvis has got.

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How about you buy me a Promised Land,
since he's got the other one.

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- Okay.
- Come on, let's go.

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<i>Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right for you</i>

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(APPLAUSE)

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Now on to the highlight of the auction,

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this Napoleon Ill marble top
mahogany writing table

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is offered at an opening bid of $15,000.

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- I got $15,000. Do I hear 16?
-16.

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I hear 16. I got $17,000. Do I hear 18?

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I got $17,000 going once. 17,000 going twice.

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Do I hear 17,500?

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I got 17,500, do I hear 18?
I got $18,000, do I hear 18,500?

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I got 18,500, do I hear 19? I got $19,000.

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- Do I hear 19,500?
- MAN: 19,500.

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- I got 19,500. Do I hear 20?
-20,000.

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<i>L</i> got $20,000.

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- I got $20,000. Do I hear 20,500?
-$20,500.

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I got 20,500. Do I hear 21?

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-21,000.
- I got $21,000. I got $21,000 going once.

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$21,000 going twice.

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Sold to the gentleman for $21,000.

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(RADIO PLAYING SOFT JAZZ)

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(KNOCKING ON DOOR)

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It's Michael! Can I go ride bikes?

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What about your homework?

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I did it, Mama.
I want to show him my new bike.

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Grandpa got it for me.
It's so cool. Please, Mama?

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You know I have to go to work at 5:00.

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I know. I'll be back.

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Boy, if you are not back here by 4:30,

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you're gonna be grounded for two weeks.
You hear me?

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Yes. Thanks, Mama. See ya at 4:30. Love you.

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I love you, too. Now y'all get out of here.

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(CARTOONS PLAYING ON TV)

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Terry, what are you doing?
Okay, do not mess me up.

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I have to go to work. I have to go to work!

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Where's the boy?

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He went out riding bikes with Michael.

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But I told him he better by home by 4:30.

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<i>AARON: I went under the
Black Train Bridge and up that little road.</i>

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<i>All the way up to Blue Beacon Truck Stop.</i>

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<i>And I parked my bike back there.</i>

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Where's Bubba?

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I don't see the boy nowhere.

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Well, when you do,
you tell him he's grounded. Two weeks.

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- We'll find him. All right?
- All right.

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See you all in a bit. Bye, sugar.

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<i>AARON: And when we all went down there,</i>

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<i>we went across that big old pipe to that place</i>

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<i>in Robin Hood Woods
they call the Devil's Den.</i>

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<i>And nobody knows what happened but me.</i>

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Where's Stevie?

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He didn't come home yet, Pam.
We couldn't find him.

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And you last saw him
when he was cleaning the yard at 5:30?

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That's right.
I told him to stay here till I got back.

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I had to punish him for riding
his skateboard in the street.

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Just a couple of licks with my belt.

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<i>MAN ON</i> POLICE RADIO:
<i>Officer Meek, do you copy?</i>

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This is Meek, go ahead.

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<i>We got a black male at Bojangles Restaurant.</i>

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<i>Suspect appears to be bleeding.
Could you respond? Over.</i>

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Affirmative. In route.

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Just sit tight and give 'em time.
We'll be in touch.

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Hey, we're not done here yet.

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I got an eight-year-old son

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-out there after dark!
- Hush now.

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Y'all call about a bleeding man?

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Yep. I'm the manager. I called about it.

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He came in about a half hour ago

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-and went straight into the ladies' bathroom.
- The ladies' restroom?

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Yes, ma'am. The women's room.
He was a black man.

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He seemed mentally disoriented.
Had blood on his face.

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He had a cast on his arm.

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Yeah, we went right in there after him,

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-and there was blood all over the walls.
- Where is he now?

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He wandered off just a few minutes ago.

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- I could show you the blood.
- Hold on. I'm gonna look around out here.

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Well now, ain't you gonna come inside?

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WOMAN: We saw all three of them go in there.

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PAM: Why didn't you
tell me about this before?

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Everybody's already here.

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Stevie! Stevie! Stevie!

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Can you hear me? Stevie!

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Come on out!

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You're not in trouble, honey. Come on home!

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Stevie! Stevie!

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Can you hear me?

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What if he drowned in it, Terry?

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Have y'all got anybody out
there looking for my boy?

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Three boys missing? I'm aware of that.

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We've been looking around in the dark and
there's all sorts of people out there.

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There's neighbors, there's kids,
there's people I don't even know...

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- Yes, listen...
- But I ain't seen one, but one...

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- Ma'am, listen...
- One police officer out there all night long.

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Listen. We are doing everything we can.

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Now, I appreciate your concern.
I got two boys myself.

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Sometimes boys, they like to
run off and get into things.

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My son is eight years old!
He sleeps with a nightlight on!

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- He did not run away from home.
- Ma'am, you need to calm down.

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I'll calm down when you find my son.

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<i>We're in front of the school
where three kids are still missing.</i>

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<i>People are worried.
Everyone here is concerned.</i>

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<i>Uh, we're worried 'cause we haven't seen
him since about dinnertime.</i>

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<i>MELISSA: I'm worried about Christopher.
We haven't seen him...</i>

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Coffee?

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Thanks, Annie. Just the check.

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You've been eating in here a lot lately.
Just 'cause you want to visit me?

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Yeah. Not much cooking
at my place these days.

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- I'm kind of glad we're so convenient.
- Keep the rest.

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<i>PAM ON</i> TV: <i>I've never
been this worried in my life.</i>

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<i>REPORTER: Everyone here
seems to be looking around.</i>

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<i>They're all completely worried.</i>

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<i>Not really sure exactly what's
gonna be going on.</i>

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<i>It's not just about these kids.
It's about everybody.</i>

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<i>It's about the concern as a community.</i>

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<i>GITCHELL: As you know, we have three boys
missing from Holiday Garden.</i>

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We have an entire community that's
concerned here, and that's understandable.

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We got family members
involved, parents involved.

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It's a very delicate situation.
I want you to be thorough,

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but I want you to be easy
with your questioning.

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<i>I will personally be directing this search.</i>

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<i>Crittenden County Search and Rescue
is gonna be assisting us.</i>

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<i>Memphis PD will help us out.</i>

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<i>The electric company has got
a full list of vacant houses.</i>

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<i>We got plenty of civilian volunteers.</i>

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<i>Obviously, this takes priority.</i>

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<i>Everything else is in the back seat
from now on till we find these boys.</i>

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<i>And let me tell you something.
We're gonna find these missing boys.</i>

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This is Steve Jones.

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I'm in the woods by that little creek they call
Devil's Den. I found something.

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ALLEN: I'm on my way.

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(GRUNTING IN EXERTION)

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POLICE <i>OFFICER</i> #1 <i>ON RADIO:
We've now found all three bodies.</i>

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<i>Clothes and bicycles.</i>

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POLICE OFFICER #2 ON RADIO: Copy that.

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PAM: No! No!

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(SOBBING)

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Stevie! Oh, God!

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No!

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(SCREAMING)

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RIDGE: Well, I just wanted
to ask y'all about some folks

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who might have come by.
I see y'all had lots of visitors.

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TERRY: Mmm-hmm.

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People been kind. And generous.

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Did a young man named
Bobby DeAngelo stop by?

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Yeah, he come by.

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His parents are friends of ours.

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Was there anybody with him?

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Yeah. Um, this other boy, Chris.

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<i>Christopher Morgan.</i>

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<i>They used to drive an ice cream truck around
here in the neighborhood.</i>

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Was it this young man?

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Mmm-hmm. Yeah, that's him.

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I think Pam fixed him a plate.
There was so much food.

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Bobby asked us for a picture once of Stevie.

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He, uh...

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He come over here
and wanted to show Stevie a ring

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of some kind of metal
or something like a skull or a snake.

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And then he asked me for a picture of Stevie.

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And I gave him one.

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Okay. Okay.

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Well, we're gonna need
to get some pictures of Stevie

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to show to people we interview, and, um...

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Also, we're, uh,
gonna need to go ahead and get

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blood and hair samples from the two of you.

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Just, you know, part of our investigation.

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Take it. Just take it.

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Just take all of it.

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- I don't want it.
- That's okay.

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I don't want it.
I don't want it. Is that gonna help?

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It's okay.

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It's okay.

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(PHONE RINGING)

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Oceanside PD.
How may I direct your call? Uh-huh. Right.

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Hey. I'm Chris Morgan.
You wanted to talk to me?

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Last time I seen Stevie was
about a year and a half ago.

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<i>When I sold him some ice cream.</i>

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<i>I'm sure I sold ice cream
to all three of those boys.</i>

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Bobby and me went over to Stevie's house
'cause Bobby was close with them.

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We wanted to show, um, remorse.

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<i>It felt good. They accepted me.</i>

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Uh, what was your overall impression
of Chris Morgan?

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<i>MCDONOUGH: Well, look,
there's something going on here,</i>

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<i>and it makes me a little suspicious
that he left for California in such a hurry.</i>

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- Okay, uh, you do me a favor?
- Sure.

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- Could you re-interview him, please?
<i>- Uh-huh.</i>

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- We're under a lot of pressure down here.
-Yeah, <i>I</i> bet.

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<i>You got your work cut out for you.</i>

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<i>- Yeah.
- Let me go at him again.</i>

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All right. Thank you, Detective.

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You should, like... You gotta do like album
covers and shit, Jason.

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Yeah, maybe. Maybe someday.

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(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)

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Heavy metal music. Ouija boards.

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All these are gateways
to a dark world of violence and destruction.

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Everything from vandalism, animal mutilation,

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to the ritual sacrifice of children.
Thousands of them every year.

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My boy, Aaron...
He's a close friend of them boys.

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I mean, Michael Moore
and Chris Byers is his two best friends.

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Did you ride your bike to Robin Hood Woods?

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- Yes.
- Excuse me, Aaron.

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When we ask you a question,

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we want you to look in
the camera, if you don't mind.

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- Okay?
- Okay.

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Just look right in the lens. Okay.

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Were you present

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-when those boys were killed?
- Yes.

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What did the hospital tell you, Damien?

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At Charter Hospital,
I was diagnosed as manic depressive.

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I'm in therapy now
and on imipramine for depression.

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I'm just curious.
How do you think the killer felt?

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They liked it. Happy.

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It was a thrill kill.

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How about you, Jason?
Did you know the three boys?

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No, sir.

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- Do you believe in God?
- Yes, I do.

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How about you, Damien? You believe in God?

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Or the devil?

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I believe in a god. A female god.

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And an evil force. Not a devil.

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I used to be involved in the Wiccan religion.
White witchcraft.

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When you would go out
to Robin Hood Woods,

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-who would you go with?
- With Chris and Michael.

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Did you ever see anything out there?

230
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We saw, uh, men.

231
00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:15,848
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)

232
00:25:25,983 --> 00:25:29,487
I ran and Jessie caught me.

233
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:32,365
Um, he tied me up.

234
00:25:33,783 --> 00:25:37,286
He tried to cut me on my side.

235
00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:38,788
I kicked him.

236
00:25:39,789 --> 00:25:44,043
Then he grabbed my hands
and made me cut Chris.

237
00:25:46,003 --> 00:25:50,091
This is Detective Bryn Ridge
of the West Memphis Police Department,

238
00:25:50,132 --> 00:25:54,554
currently in the office
with Jessie Lloyd Misskelley Junior.

239
00:25:56,472 --> 00:26:01,602
Jessie, on Wednesday,
May 5, 1993, early in the morning,

240
00:26:01,644 --> 00:26:03,729
you received a phone call. Is that correct?

241
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,149
Yeah, I did. Jason Baldwin called me

242
00:26:07,191 --> 00:26:09,569
and he asked if I could go
to West Memphis with him,

243
00:26:09,652 --> 00:26:12,905
and I told him no. I had to work and stuff.

244
00:26:12,989 --> 00:26:16,951
And then he told me that he had to go.
So him and Damien, they went.

245
00:26:16,993 --> 00:26:20,788
Then I went with them up to the...
Up to the Robin Hood.

246
00:26:21,581 --> 00:26:22,748
Jessie and Damien

247
00:26:22,832 --> 00:26:27,378
picked him up and put a bucket
where he was bleeding.

248
00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:30,548
So you saw Damien strike
Chris Byers in the head?

249
00:26:30,631 --> 00:26:32,383
- Right.
- What did he hit him With?

250
00:26:32,675 --> 00:26:35,428
Well, he hit him with his fist
and bruised him all up real bad.

251
00:26:35,845 --> 00:26:38,389
And then Jason, he turned,
and he hit Stevie Branch,

252
00:26:38,472 --> 00:26:41,017
and that's when Michael Moore, he took off.

253
00:26:41,058 --> 00:26:44,687
So I chased him, grabbed him
and held him until they got there.

254
00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:47,356
And then, and that's when I left.

255
00:26:47,982 --> 00:26:49,567
Who had a knife?

256
00:26:52,528 --> 00:26:58,075
Jason. I saw him cut one of those little boys.

257
00:27:04,665 --> 00:27:06,542
(WOMAN SCREAMING ON TV)

258
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:13,883
(WOMAN SCREAMING ON TV)

259
00:27:29,523 --> 00:27:30,524
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)

260
00:27:30,566 --> 00:27:31,734
<i>MAN ON TV: There's someone
inside your house.</i>

261
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:34,362
<i>He's gonna kill you. You have to run for it.</i>

262
00:27:34,403 --> 00:27:35,613
It's the police.

263
00:27:36,697 --> 00:27:38,407
Michelle, get the door.

264
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:48,501
We're looking for Damien Echols. Come on.

265
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:51,379
All right, go check the back.

266
00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:54,465
You his sister? Folks not home?

267
00:27:56,926 --> 00:27:58,260
- What are you doing?
- We were just watching a movie.

268
00:27:58,302 --> 00:27:59,303
Come on, stop.

269
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:01,263
Jason Baldwin, you're under arrest, too.

270
00:28:01,347 --> 00:28:02,473
- What for?
- Capital...

271
00:28:02,556 --> 00:28:03,599
Shut up!

272
00:28:03,641 --> 00:28:04,934
- Capital murder.
- He didn't do anything!

273
00:28:04,975 --> 00:28:06,143
You got the wrong people.

274
00:28:55,818 --> 00:28:59,488
Hey, boss. West Memphis PD
is holding a press conference.

275
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:10,916
<i>GITCHELL: ...police force
and families of the victims.</i>

276
00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:15,504
<i>Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin,
Jessie Misskelley</i>

277
00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:18,758
<i>were arrested last night,
will be charged in the murders</i>

278
00:29:18,841 --> 00:29:22,052
<i>of the three boys we found last month
in the Robin Hood Woods.</i>

279
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:25,055
FEMALE <i>REPORTER: Inspector Gitchell,
do you know the motive for the killings?</i>

280
00:29:25,139 --> 00:29:27,016
<i>I do, but I can't comment on that at this time.</i>

281
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:29,101
<i>MALE REPORTER #1". Can we interview them?</i>

282
00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:31,353
MALE <i>REPORTER #2: Were the three
defendants</i> a <i>member of</i> a <i>cult?</i>

283
00:29:31,437 --> 00:29:33,022
I can't comment on that either.

284
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,815
FEMALE REPORTER:
Well, on a scale of one to 10,

285
00:29:34,857 --> 00:29:37,026
how solid do you feel your case is?

286
00:29:38,235 --> 00:29:39,361
Eleven.

287
00:29:39,528 --> 00:29:40,863
(APPLAUSE)

288
00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:46,368
Apparently, the break in the case was the
confession of Jessie Misskelley,

289
00:29:46,410 --> 00:29:49,038
one of the accused in this horrific crime

290
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,207
that has shocked this entire community.

291
00:29:51,290 --> 00:29:54,835
Satanism is out there.
And you must be watchful

292
00:29:54,877 --> 00:29:57,379
for the six indicators of Satanic involvement.

293
00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:02,301
Obsession with death. Satanic paraphernalia.
Kidnapping. Sexual abuse.

294
00:30:02,384 --> 00:30:04,053
Cannibalism. And cremation.

295
00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:07,389
And I believe that there may
be others who knew that,

296
00:30:07,431 --> 00:30:13,062
that these three babies were going to be
sacrificed. My wife and I are scared.

297
00:30:14,897 --> 00:30:19,401
Satan and his demons have
already been at work here in West Memphis.

298
00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:22,696
Worship of evil debated as motive in killings.

299
00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:25,032
<i>This article in the
West Memphis Evening Times</i>

300
00:30:25,115 --> 00:30:26,575
claims that people who knew Damien said

301
00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:28,911
he dressed in black and carried a cat skull.

302
00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:32,832
It also claims he wears the
number 666 inside his boots.

303
00:30:32,915 --> 00:30:34,875
And then it goes on to quote
two unnamed girls,

304
00:30:34,917 --> 00:30:37,253
one who said she's seen Damien drink blood.

305
00:30:37,294 --> 00:30:39,421
And another who said Damien threatened

306
00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:41,590
to cut off a boy's head off
and put it on a doorstep.

307
00:30:41,632 --> 00:30:43,050
Sounds like an energetic young man.

308
00:30:43,092 --> 00:30:44,844
There is definitely a connection

309
00:30:44,927 --> 00:30:47,513
between hard metal music and Satanism.

310
00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:51,934
Apparently, some residents
suspect a Satanic cult is responsible.

311
00:30:52,017 --> 00:30:55,896
<i>One local minister said Damien Echols,
the alleged ringleader,</i>

312
00:30:55,938 --> 00:30:59,525
<i>had made, quote,
a pact with the devil and will be going to hell.</i>

313
00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:04,363
<i>Another called the murders an incarnation,
a manifestation of evil.</i>

314
00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:22,673
WOMAN NEWSCASTER ON RADIO:
...and the <i>upcoming</i>

315
00:31:22,756 --> 00:31:24,383
<i>nuclear disarmament talks in Ukraine.</i>

316
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:27,803
<i>In West Memphis,
prosecutors have confirmed that the State</i>

317
00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:31,223
<i>will seek the death penalty
for all three teenage defendants.</i>

318
00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:35,436
<i>Arkansas has executed four individuals
since the Supreme Court ruling</i>

319
00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:38,147
<i>allowed the State
to reinstate capital punishment.</i>

320
00:31:38,188 --> 00:31:40,941
<i>Two in 1990 and two more...</i>

321
00:31:40,983 --> 00:31:42,192
<i>LAX". Can you believe this, Glori?</i>

322
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:46,280
The death penalty.
And all three of 'em teenagers.

323
00:31:46,447 --> 00:31:48,490
My God, Jason Baldwin's only 16.

324
00:31:48,949 --> 00:31:52,286
<i>They'll need a good investigator,
and the court will never pay.</i>

325
00:31:52,703 --> 00:31:55,789
Tell those court appointed lawyers if they
want me, I'm offering my services.

326
00:31:56,165 --> 00:31:59,752
Pro bono?
Are you sure you want to do that, boss?

327
00:31:59,835 --> 00:32:01,629
I mean, we have got a lot on
our plate right now.

328
00:32:02,004 --> 00:32:04,048
<i>We got that big insurance fraud case.</i>

329
00:32:04,632 --> 00:32:06,675
<i>This just isn't the best time
to be working for a cause.</i>

330
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,887
You know how I feel about these death
penalty cases. It's the least I can do.

331
00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:12,556
<i>I know, but this crime is unthinkable.</i>

332
00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:15,225
<i>What if they did it? Have you thought of that?</i>

333
00:32:15,351 --> 00:32:17,686
And what if they didn't? And even if they did,

334
00:32:18,228 --> 00:32:21,315
I think three dead kids is enough.
I'm on my way.

335
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:25,027
Mr. Lax, I'm Dan Stidham.
I represent Jessie Misskelley.

336
00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:29,198
This is Paul Ford from Jonesboro.
He represents Jason Baldwin.

337
00:32:29,323 --> 00:32:31,951
And Val Price is the public defender
who's been appointed

338
00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:34,411
to represent Damien Echols.
Please have a seat.

339
00:32:38,666 --> 00:32:40,793
I understand Jessie has
recanted his confession.

340
00:32:40,876 --> 00:32:41,919
Does that surprise you?

341
00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:44,046
No. It's hard to believe anyone would confess

342
00:32:44,129 --> 00:32:45,673
to such a crime if he hadn't done it.

343
00:32:46,465 --> 00:32:47,841
Got any experts lined up?

344
00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:50,469
I've got a doctor who will testify that Jessie

345
00:32:50,552 --> 00:32:52,596
reasons on the level of a six to eight-year-old.

346
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,057
He was once diagnosed as mentally retarded.

347
00:32:55,975 --> 00:32:59,478
- Do you think he's guilty?
- In my experience, most of them are.

348
00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:05,776
PRICE: <i>So Mr. Lax,
if they're most likely guilty,</i>

349
00:33:05,943 --> 00:33:08,237
<i>why volunteer to help us build a case?</i>

350
00:33:08,404 --> 00:33:11,407
LAX: <i>Because if you don't have</i> a <i>strong case,</i>

351
00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:14,243
<i>the State is going to kill three young men.</i>

352
00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:17,454
<i>And I can't stand by and watch that happen.</i>

353
00:33:17,538 --> 00:33:19,498
<i>Now, tell me about Damien Echols.</i>

354
00:33:20,249 --> 00:33:24,044
<i>STIDHAM: He lives in a trailer park
with his family, on social assistance.</i>

355
00:33:24,086 --> 00:33:27,423
<i>Difficult kid.
He's had serious run-ins with the law.</i>

356
00:33:28,007 --> 00:33:30,426
<i>He spent time in juvenile detention.</i>

357
00:33:31,844 --> 00:33:37,433
Now being as I've been his probation officer
for as long as I've been,

358
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:41,020
he always seems to me to be like one of these

359
00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:44,523
slasher movie-type guys.

360
00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:50,195
His boots and coat, heavy metal music,

361
00:33:52,197 --> 00:33:54,116
long, stringy black hair.

362
00:33:55,534 --> 00:33:58,120
Now, may I... Have you seen his case file?

363
00:33:58,871 --> 00:34:03,584
I mean, this boy is troubled.
He's been in and out of psychiatric wards.

364
00:34:04,001 --> 00:34:06,462
And he said he was involved in the occult.

365
00:34:06,503 --> 00:34:09,631
Oh, yeah. Some of his followers
included Jason Baldwin.

366
00:34:09,965 --> 00:34:12,968
And of course, his pregnant girlfriend.

367
00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:17,514
He's got her name carved on his arm.

368
00:34:18,307 --> 00:34:21,310
- And I worry about that baby.
- Why?

369
00:34:22,102 --> 00:34:24,313
Because of the rumor
that they're going to sacrifice it to Satan.

370
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:25,439
You're saying you actually believe that?

371
00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:27,649
- You bet I do.
- Come on, Jerry.

372
00:34:30,194 --> 00:34:33,697
All that occult-crime,
Satanic-panic stuff's been studied by the FBI

373
00:34:33,781 --> 00:34:35,949
and they say it's all smoke and no fire.

374
00:34:35,991 --> 00:34:38,702
I know what I've seen with my own two eyes.

375
00:34:39,286 --> 00:34:42,456
And I'm telling you evidence of occult
activity was everywhere that summer.

376
00:34:44,958 --> 00:34:47,252
In this old abandoned schoolhouse...

377
00:34:48,212 --> 00:34:50,631
I mean, Steve Jones saw something.

378
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:59,098
<i>It's like a picture I'd seen
in a book about the serial killer, Son of Sam.</i>

379
00:34:59,306 --> 00:35:02,518
<i>Like somebody had restaged the scene.</i>

380
00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:07,606
<i>Or re-enacted it. So ever since that summer</i>

381
00:35:07,689 --> 00:35:10,776
<i>I've been telling the local police to watch him.</i>

382
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:13,278
'Cause I knew something bad
was gonna happen.

383
00:35:14,947 --> 00:35:17,282
I sent Steve Jones over to Damien's house.

384
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,328
<i>And he found all sorts of
crazy stuff in Damien's room.</i>

385
00:35:21,703 --> 00:35:24,039
<i>Evidence of his interest in the occult.</i>

386
00:35:28,043 --> 00:35:30,921
<i>About a year ago, Damien told me
that the local devil worshippers</i>

387
00:35:31,004 --> 00:35:33,465
<i>had reached the end of their
animal sacrifice stage.</i>

388
00:35:33,549 --> 00:35:36,135
<i>And I'm talking about things
they do to receive power.</i>

389
00:35:36,677 --> 00:35:42,141
So that summer, he said they
were gonna take the next logical step.

390
00:35:43,934 --> 00:35:47,187
Sacrifice a human. A human.

391
00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:53,986
- Stevie.
- Pam. Dreaming again.

392
00:35:55,404 --> 00:35:56,780
Dream.

393
00:35:58,282 --> 00:35:59,283
Come here.

394
00:36:19,261 --> 00:36:21,597
You have asthma and you smoke?

395
00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:24,933
I guess I'm just self-destructive.

396
00:36:28,604 --> 00:36:31,815
I spoke to your probation officer, Jerry Driver.

397
00:36:32,649 --> 00:36:35,402
- He had a lot to say about you.
- I bet.

398
00:36:37,571 --> 00:36:40,616
Said they found a lot of stuff in your room.

399
00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:44,077
- Evidence of your interest in the occult.
- My notebooks.

400
00:36:45,370 --> 00:36:47,206
They're just song lyrics I liked.

401
00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:50,709
Quotes from my favorite books and movies.

402
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:53,921
What about the things you told him?

403
00:36:54,504 --> 00:36:57,549
About devil worshippers
planning on making human sacrifices.

404
00:37:00,302 --> 00:37:02,471
I was just messing with his mind.

405
00:37:04,514 --> 00:37:08,644
That you threatened to eat your father
and out your mother's throat.

406
00:37:09,186 --> 00:37:10,812
Driver's a liar.

407
00:37:11,438 --> 00:37:16,818
It's not just Driver. There's a lot of people
saying things, damaging things.

408
00:37:18,904 --> 00:37:20,155
Listen to this.

409
00:37:20,197 --> 00:37:21,990
Why should I listen to you?

410
00:37:22,824 --> 00:37:25,869
Why should I answer your questions?
Are you my lawyer?

411
00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:28,997
No. I'm working with them.

412
00:37:29,831 --> 00:37:34,962
You're working for them?
What are you, like a lawyer's assistant?

413
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:38,048
I'm an investigator.

414
00:37:39,132 --> 00:37:41,551
But you won't be representing me in court.

415
00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:45,430
No. No, I'm not allowed to do that.

416
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:49,268
So I'm just supposed to trust you?
Tell you everything?

417
00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:52,271
If you want me to help you, yes.

418
00:37:59,403 --> 00:38:01,196
Those cops are scary, okay?

419
00:38:03,156 --> 00:38:08,161
They will do anything to get people
to say what they want to hear.

420
00:38:11,415 --> 00:38:14,167
Why would so many people
say all these things about you?

421
00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:18,338
Why did those girls say
people were witches back in Salem?

422
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,133
Any time anything weird
happens around here,

423
00:38:21,216 --> 00:38:23,760
people blame it on devil worshippers.

424
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:26,346
And on me.

425
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:35,647
What about the incident when you were
locked up at the JDC in Jonesboro?

426
00:38:35,731 --> 00:38:37,357
They say you drank some kid's blood.

427
00:38:37,983 --> 00:38:41,486
I didn't attack him. He offered it.

428
00:38:43,405 --> 00:38:48,201
I did that with a knife.
That's my girlfriend's name.

429
00:38:48,744 --> 00:38:51,455
I've been cutting myself for a long time.

430
00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:52,831
Why?

431
00:38:54,583 --> 00:38:56,877
There's power in the blood.

432
00:38:58,045 --> 00:38:59,838
It's how we get power.

433
00:39:01,131 --> 00:39:04,176
Through drinking the blood of others.

434
00:39:06,094 --> 00:39:09,264
By biting, cutting.

435
00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:13,185
And rituals.

436
00:39:15,395 --> 00:39:18,899
I've been doing it since
I was, like, 10 years old.

437
00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:25,030
These people think I'm a Satanic leader.
I'm not.

438
00:39:26,323 --> 00:39:29,117
They think I'm in a cult. I'm not.

439
00:39:29,409 --> 00:39:33,163
I just have an interest in witchcraft

440
00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:36,333
as a way to power, to control.

441
00:39:43,465 --> 00:39:47,552
Pam, do you feel the people
who did this were worshipping, um...

442
00:39:48,595 --> 00:39:52,099
- Satan? Yes, I do. I do.
- Why?

443
00:39:52,808 --> 00:39:58,146
Just look at 'em.
They look like punks. They look like freaks.

444
00:39:58,980 --> 00:40:01,900
You don't look like that
when you're, like, a normal person.

445
00:40:02,109 --> 00:40:05,362
And they listen to that music.

446
00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:10,283
And everybody knows they...
I heard from a bunch of people

447
00:40:10,492 --> 00:40:14,913
that they been hearing that they been,
you know, worshipping Satan

448
00:40:14,996 --> 00:40:17,165
and killing clogs and things like that.

449
00:40:17,249 --> 00:40:20,127
<i>REPORTER: You think the way they
dress had something to do with the...</i>

450
00:40:20,168 --> 00:40:24,840
<i>PAM: Absolutely yes, I do. You don't dress
like that when you... When you, um...</i>

451
00:40:25,215 --> 00:40:29,428
<i>- Pam, what are you holding?
-Oh, this? Um, this is</i>

452
00:40:29,511 --> 00:40:33,014
<i>part of Stevie's Boy Scout uniform.</i>

453
00:40:33,348 --> 00:40:36,977
<i>I got it back yesterday, and I've been
wearing it on my head, like that.</i>

454
00:40:37,310 --> 00:40:39,354
<i>(LAUGHS) Did he like scouting?</i>

455
00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:45,569
<i>Oh, yeah. He loved it. He loved it. He did.</i>

456
00:40:46,862 --> 00:40:52,576
<i>He'd be so excited when he'd be having a day
that he'd go to Boy Scout meetings.</i>

457
00:40:53,076 --> 00:40:54,870
<i>Um... Yeah, he did.</i>

458
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:11,928
I saw you on TV.

459
00:41:16,391 --> 00:41:18,226
What the hell are you doing?

460
00:41:20,312 --> 00:41:22,230
You're supposed to be in mourning.

461
00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,818
You're not acting right.

462
00:41:28,570 --> 00:41:30,280
What's that supposed to mean?

463
00:41:32,699 --> 00:41:38,205
On the TV.
Treating his scarf like some kind of prop.

464
00:41:41,541 --> 00:41:43,585
Acting like a goddamn silly fool.

465
00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:50,509
I'm not acting at all, Terry. Are you?

466
00:41:52,594 --> 00:41:54,888
Is that what you've been doing?

467
00:41:57,432 --> 00:42:00,560
I think maybe you're glad Stevie's gone.

468
00:42:00,769 --> 00:42:03,855
'Cause you were always hard on him.
Way too hard.

469
00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:09,945
What the hell are you talking about?

470
00:42:10,028 --> 00:42:11,696
Every time I spent time with him,

471
00:42:11,780 --> 00:42:14,241
or I fell asleep with him 'cause he was afraid,

472
00:42:14,282 --> 00:42:16,117
you blamed him. You was jealous of him.

473
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:17,786
You shut up!

474
00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:21,790
What? You'll hit me?
Now that he's gone, I'm all you got left?

475
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:27,629
Go ahead. Hit me. Hit me. I dare you, hit me.

476
00:42:28,797 --> 00:42:30,048
(GRUNTING)

477
00:42:32,133 --> 00:42:33,802
(GLASS SMASHING)

478
00:42:41,309 --> 00:42:45,397
AMANDA: Mommy? Daddy?

479
00:42:49,609 --> 00:42:51,152
You hear that?

480
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:57,492
You ain't the only one I got left.

481
00:43:07,043 --> 00:43:09,796
You're supposed to be a grieving mother.

482
00:43:11,256 --> 00:43:13,758
You start behaving like one.

483
00:43:16,344 --> 00:43:17,971
You hear me?

484
00:43:31,443 --> 00:43:36,990
<i>JESSE: Daddy, they asked me
a lot of questions over and over.</i>

485
00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:40,619
<i>Tons of questions,
and I tried to make them happy.</i>

486
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:43,830
<i>But I did not do it.</i>

487
00:43:49,544 --> 00:43:52,922
Superior Court of Crittenden
County, come to order.

488
00:43:57,969 --> 00:44:00,889
Since Mr. Misskelley has
retracted his confession,

489
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:04,768
I presume he will not be
testifying against his co-defendants.

490
00:44:05,393 --> 00:44:06,978
That is correct, Your Honor.

491
00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:09,773
Then I rule his trial be severed from theirs

492
00:44:09,856 --> 00:44:12,317
because they would be denied
their constitutional right

493
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,069
to cross examine their accuser.

494
00:44:15,153 --> 00:44:18,657
- Anything else?
- No. Thank you.

495
00:44:22,744 --> 00:44:26,539
Separate trials.
Jessie's gonna be tried on his own.

496
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,833
(REPORTERS CLAMORING)

497
00:44:30,168 --> 00:44:32,504
Murderer! Murderer!

498
00:44:44,432 --> 00:44:46,726
- MAN: Satan worshippers!
-(CROWD YELLS INDISTINCTLY)

499
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:14,838
<i>MARGARET: Hey, I tried you at home.</i>

500
00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:18,133
<i>I need to talk to you
about something, in person.</i>

501
00:45:18,425 --> 00:45:22,137
<i>Will you meet me for lunch tomorrow,
1:00 at the Arcade?</i>

502
00:45:22,721 --> 00:45:26,015
<i>It's really important. Okay. Good night.</i>

503
00:45:26,099 --> 00:45:28,184
(ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPING)

504
00:45:29,436 --> 00:45:31,980
<i>GITCHELL: Tell me what happened
when you got to Robin Hood Woods.</i>

505
00:45:32,021 --> 00:45:35,817
<i>Jessie started running and caught Steve.</i>

506
00:45:36,818 --> 00:45:41,114
<i>Then Michael and Chris jumped
out of the tree.</i>

507
00:45:42,490 --> 00:45:47,328
<i>Then, um, they took them,</i>

508
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:52,000
<i>and, um, they killed them.</i>

509
00:45:55,336 --> 00:45:57,046
(REMOTE CLATTERING)

510
00:46:34,042 --> 00:46:36,878
<i>Jessie and Damien picked him up</i>

511
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,423
<i>and put a bucket where he was bleeding.</i>

512
00:46:41,549 --> 00:46:46,513
<i>Then they poured it in a glass
and made me drink it.</i>

513
00:46:46,888 --> 00:46:51,059
<i>And nobody knows what happened but me.</i>

514
00:47:35,395 --> 00:47:38,106
- What would you like?
- May I have a tea, please?

515
00:47:38,398 --> 00:47:40,900
- Sweet or unsweet?
- Unsweet, please.

516
00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:43,903
And you would like coffee, black,
with a glass of water, right?

517
00:47:43,945 --> 00:47:45,864
Right. Thanks, Annie.

518
00:47:47,657 --> 00:47:50,535
- Annie.
- I'm in here a lot these days.

519
00:47:51,286 --> 00:47:53,121
She's very pretty. She likes you.

520
00:47:53,496 --> 00:47:55,081
She just likes a good tip.

521
00:47:55,415 --> 00:47:57,959
Thanks for meeting me.
I know you're very busy.

522
00:47:58,001 --> 00:47:59,544
It's good to hear from you.

523
00:48:00,545 --> 00:48:02,630
What's so important, Maggie?

524
00:48:05,216 --> 00:48:09,971
The State Police.
They called me. Then they came by my office,

525
00:48:10,013 --> 00:48:13,808
and they were asking all these questions
about you, about your past.

526
00:48:14,642 --> 00:48:17,103
They knew everything
about our divorce proceeding.

527
00:48:17,312 --> 00:48:19,105
They knew everything.

528
00:48:19,314 --> 00:48:22,233
It's like they were digging
for something to use against you

529
00:48:22,317 --> 00:48:27,405
and expected me to help, as if I'd be out
to get you because of the divorce.

530
00:48:27,906 --> 00:48:32,577
I was so insulted, I was so angry, and I said
what they were doing was wrong.

531
00:48:34,621 --> 00:48:37,206
I may have even
made some legal threats to them.

532
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:41,336
I mean, you're a respected man in this city.
You're not on trial here.

533
00:48:42,295 --> 00:48:43,588
It's fine.

534
00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:47,050
Thanks for telling me
about this and for having my back.

535
00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:48,343
Here you go.

536
00:48:48,384 --> 00:48:49,719
(SIGHING)

537
00:48:57,352 --> 00:48:59,187
My attorney said he sent you the agreement.

538
00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:02,398
I got it. I think maybe I misplaced it.

539
00:49:03,024 --> 00:49:04,525
He can send another one.

540
00:49:04,651 --> 00:49:06,194
It's just that with all
the paperwork in the case,

541
00:49:06,235 --> 00:49:09,364
you know, things get jumbled up.
Anyway, I'll find it.

542
00:49:10,615 --> 00:49:12,492
Ron, I'm worried about you.

543
00:49:13,701 --> 00:49:15,828
These boys that you're helping,

544
00:49:16,204 --> 00:49:19,707
from what I've seen on TV
and read in the papers...

545
00:49:20,708 --> 00:49:23,544
The police seem so certain.
Are you sure you want to do this?

546
00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:27,298
Yes. Yes, I am.

547
00:49:27,423 --> 00:49:30,927
It's just that sometimes
you take these things so personally.

548
00:49:31,344 --> 00:49:35,223
You know, you lose perspective.
You get obsessed.

549
00:49:35,431 --> 00:49:36,808
That's right, Maggie.

550
00:49:37,684 --> 00:49:39,394
You know when I see
something like this happening,

551
00:49:39,477 --> 00:49:41,521
when I see a town lose three of its children,

552
00:49:41,562 --> 00:49:45,400
then sacrifice three more for revenge,
then I do take it personally.

553
00:49:46,067 --> 00:49:48,486
And maybe I do get a little bit obsessed.

554
00:49:48,695 --> 00:49:52,782
So I'll just keep doing things my way.
You don't have to worry about me anymore.

555
00:49:52,865 --> 00:49:56,035
You know, if the police are so goddamned
certain about their case then tell me this.

556
00:49:56,077 --> 00:49:59,122
Why are they coming to me,
harassing my ex-wife?

557
00:50:00,373 --> 00:50:03,084
You know, I just remembered,
I have to be in court. Early.

558
00:50:03,584 --> 00:50:07,630
So thanks again for what you did.
And I'll sign the papers.

559
00:50:08,589 --> 00:50:11,509
Ron, please don't.

560
00:50:16,431 --> 00:50:20,768
RIDGE: And then we followed Detective Allen
into the woods.

561
00:50:23,563 --> 00:50:26,065
All the way down to Ten Mile Bayou.

562
00:50:27,608 --> 00:50:32,363
Near the big drainpipe
behind the truck wash. And, uh...

563
00:50:34,198 --> 00:50:38,411
This trial's a waste of time.
We all know he's guilty.

564
00:50:38,619 --> 00:50:41,497
We ought to just fry him and get it over with.

565
00:50:42,123 --> 00:50:46,461
Then maybe these journalist parasites can go
back to wherever they come from.

566
00:50:48,421 --> 00:50:51,924
...crawled on my hands and
knees and felt along with my hands

567
00:50:52,008 --> 00:50:55,511
and came to a piece of cloth.

568
00:50:56,429 --> 00:50:59,849
This ended up being a white shirt

569
00:51:00,058 --> 00:51:04,103
that was jabbed into the mud with a stick.

570
00:51:04,479 --> 00:51:08,649
I moved further along the
ditch and came to what would be the

571
00:51:09,442 --> 00:51:10,818
second body.

572
00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:18,618
This is the body of Steve Branch
after I pulled him from the water.

573
00:51:18,659 --> 00:51:19,911
(SPECTATORS GASPING)

574
00:51:20,161 --> 00:51:22,163
(WHISPERING INDISTINCTLY)

575
00:51:33,007 --> 00:51:34,926
(MUMBLES INCOHERENTLY)

576
00:52:07,083 --> 00:52:08,543
Stevie.

577
00:52:48,749 --> 00:52:50,042
(SIGHING)

578
00:53:38,466 --> 00:53:41,219
MRS. WILSON: Who can solve this problem?

579
00:53:44,055 --> 00:53:46,724
- Mrs. Wilson?
- Yes.

580
00:53:46,807 --> 00:53:50,311
- I'm so sorry to interrupt, I...
- That's okay.

581
00:53:51,145 --> 00:53:55,233
I just, uh, found this,

582
00:53:55,316 --> 00:53:59,987
this homework that Stevie did that day.

583
00:54:00,529 --> 00:54:06,535
Before. And I'm just
wondering if you, you could grade it.

584
00:54:06,827 --> 00:54:10,831
- Sure.
- Thank you.

585
00:54:28,391 --> 00:54:32,144
It's perfect, as usual.
He was very good at math.

586
00:54:38,609 --> 00:54:42,113
He studied real hard at everything.

587
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:44,240
He was a good boy.

588
00:54:44,573 --> 00:54:46,242
Yes, ma'am, he was.

589
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:49,704
Thank you.

590
00:54:50,162 --> 00:54:53,666
- Mrs. Hobbs?
- Yes.

591
00:55:15,313 --> 00:55:19,859
Inspector, during the course
of your conversation with Mr. Misskelley,

592
00:55:20,067 --> 00:55:22,945
was there a portion of a tape
played for the defendant?

593
00:55:23,237 --> 00:55:26,282
Uh, yes, sir. I played this.

594
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:32,997
(FEEDBACK FROM MICROPHONE)

595
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,877
AARON: <i>And nobody knows
what happened but me.</i>

596
00:55:38,753 --> 00:55:42,256
And after hearing the tape,
what was the defendant's reaction?

597
00:55:42,548 --> 00:55:46,052
Jessie immediately stated
that he wanted to tell us about it.

598
00:55:46,135 --> 00:55:49,638
Then he said that he was
present when the boys were murdered.

599
00:55:52,224 --> 00:55:54,477
Now, you got in front of you pictures

600
00:55:55,019 --> 00:55:56,645
of the three boys that were killed.

601
00:55:56,729 --> 00:56:00,232
Now, which one of these three is it you say
you saw Damien hit?

602
00:56:02,693 --> 00:56:07,156
Misskelley has indicated the third photo,
which will be...

603
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:09,367
Michael Moore.

604
00:56:14,705 --> 00:56:18,459
Are you pointing... Uh, that's the Byers boy.

605
00:56:19,418 --> 00:56:20,711
Christopher?

606
00:56:20,795 --> 00:56:23,172
Yeah. Is that who you're pointing at?

607
00:56:23,255 --> 00:56:24,632
Uh-huh. Yeah.

608
00:56:30,763 --> 00:56:33,015
What time did all this take place?

609
00:56:35,059 --> 00:56:37,520
About 12:00 noon.

610
00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:41,816
Okay. Was it after school let out?

611
00:56:43,442 --> 00:56:45,778
I... I don't go to school.

612
00:56:46,570 --> 00:56:47,905
These little boys...

613
00:56:47,988 --> 00:56:53,786
No, no, no. They...
(STAMMERS) They skipped school.

614
00:56:58,958 --> 00:57:02,211
<i>STIDHAM: The little boys didn't skip school
that day, did they, Inspector?</i>

615
00:57:02,586 --> 00:57:04,380
No, the little boys did not.

616
00:57:04,672 --> 00:57:07,174
When Jessie said the murders
took place around noon,

617
00:57:07,383 --> 00:57:10,177
you knew that wasn't correct, did you not?

618
00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:12,054
That's right.

619
00:57:12,138 --> 00:57:15,349
Jessie, uh, what time did the
boys come into the woods?

620
00:57:17,309 --> 00:57:20,354
What, I would say about 5:00 or 6:00.

621
00:57:20,855 --> 00:57:25,651
Earlier, uh, you said 7:00 or 8:00.
What time is it?

622
00:57:26,026 --> 00:57:27,653
It was 7:00 or 8:00.

623
00:57:27,695 --> 00:57:29,780
It was... Are you... You are sure of that?

624
00:57:29,864 --> 00:57:32,116
Yeah, yeah. it was getting dark outside.

625
00:57:32,616 --> 00:57:34,034
Okay.

626
00:57:36,328 --> 00:57:38,622
And what did they use
to tie the boys up with?

627
00:57:42,501 --> 00:57:43,836
Rope.

628
00:57:47,006 --> 00:57:51,218
How were the boys tied
when the bodies were discovered?

629
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:52,720
They were tied by their own shoestrings.

630
00:57:55,389 --> 00:57:58,809
Why didn't he know those things?
Why is he wrong?

631
00:58:01,645 --> 00:58:03,772
If Jessie was there, why didn't he know?

632
00:58:03,856 --> 00:58:05,441
It don't matter, Pam.

633
00:58:05,566 --> 00:58:06,775
It does matter.

634
00:58:06,859 --> 00:58:09,403
He did it. He did.

635
00:58:09,695 --> 00:58:13,407
GITCHELL: ...activity which is
common in my 20 years' career.

636
00:58:13,741 --> 00:58:16,577
I'm not talking about Jessie
lessening his involvement in the crimes.

637
00:58:16,619 --> 00:58:20,080
I'm saying is it common
for the police to simply ignore

638
00:58:20,289 --> 00:58:23,792
all those big, obvious problems with his story

639
00:58:23,876 --> 00:58:28,255
and assume that everything else
he's telling you has got to be correct?

640
00:58:28,923 --> 00:58:32,426
Jessie simply got confused. That's all.

641
00:58:34,678 --> 00:58:39,517
JUDGE: I repeat. I am acutely aware
there's a great deal of emotion involved.

642
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,896
But this court will not
tolerate any verbal outburst,

643
00:58:44,271 --> 00:58:47,775
any display of emotion whatsoever.

644
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,450
The verdicts read as follows.

645
00:58:57,284 --> 00:59:00,788
"We the jury find
Jessie Lloyd Misskelley Junior guilty

646
00:59:00,871 --> 00:59:04,375
"of murder in the first degree
in the death of Michael Moore.

647
00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:09,380
"And of second degree
murder in the deaths of Christopher Byers

648
00:59:09,463 --> 00:59:10,548
"and Steven Branch."

649
00:59:13,551 --> 00:59:15,469
(SPECTATORS MURMURING)

650
00:59:20,391 --> 00:59:24,144
It's almost over, Pam. We're gonna win.

651
00:59:28,816 --> 00:59:31,068
The sentence.
How do you feel about the sentence?

652
00:59:31,151 --> 00:59:33,487
Do you think it was
a just and a proper sentence?

653
00:59:33,988 --> 00:59:37,157
Life plus 40? Well, it's fine with me.

654
00:59:37,324 --> 00:59:39,535
It's one down, two to go.

655
00:59:39,618 --> 00:59:42,871
And the good Lord said
Lucifer and a third of the angels

656
00:59:42,997 --> 00:59:45,416
were cast out of heaven. He didn't need 'em.

657
00:59:45,499 --> 00:59:48,711
'Cause he took their minds
and manipulated them.

658
00:59:48,794 --> 00:59:51,839
And they prayed to their Devil
and they prayed to their Satan,

659
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,426
and did all kinds of Satanic worship services.

660
00:59:55,509 --> 00:59:59,013
Wild, crazy orgies, I've been told.

661
01:00:07,313 --> 01:00:10,024
There's a war going on.

662
01:00:11,233 --> 01:00:15,404
It's a war between Satan,
Lucifer and the Lord.

663
01:00:15,487 --> 01:00:16,488
Mrs. Hobbs?

664
01:00:21,577 --> 01:00:23,037
TERRY: Hey.

665
01:00:28,208 --> 01:00:30,127
You stay away from us.

666
01:00:32,129 --> 01:00:35,841
You don't talk to her. Understand?

667
01:00:38,886 --> 01:00:43,891
You hear me?
You bother my wife, and by God, it's on.

668
01:00:43,932 --> 01:00:47,478
All right, Terry, let's go home.
Come on. Come on.

669
01:00:52,399 --> 01:00:57,821
JOHN: ...and I say bring it on.
For me this place is like hell on Earth.

670
01:00:58,739 --> 01:01:04,912
'Cause I know three babies were killed.
I know my son was castrated.

671
01:01:05,496 --> 01:01:07,998
And lay on that bank and bled to death.

672
01:01:08,207 --> 01:01:09,875
I know he was choked.

673
01:01:14,088 --> 01:01:16,090
How's the documentary coming along?

674
01:01:16,298 --> 01:01:17,841
Y'all been here every day, right?

675
01:01:17,925 --> 01:01:20,260
Interviewing families. Must be fascinating.

676
01:01:23,055 --> 01:01:26,558
Yeah. We're, uh, getting some
pretty good stuff.

677
01:01:27,893 --> 01:01:30,604
Especially John Mark Byers
seems to like the attention.

678
01:01:30,771 --> 01:01:32,439
Well, he's not shy, that's for sure.

679
01:01:32,648 --> 01:01:36,110
Did he ever do or say anything unusual?

680
01:01:36,819 --> 01:01:41,532
I don't just mean holding
forth for cameras and reporters.

681
01:01:43,075 --> 01:01:46,578
I mean, like something suspicious or strange?

682
01:01:47,287 --> 01:01:52,459
Yeah. He did do something strange.
Very strange.

683
01:01:54,044 --> 01:01:57,673
He gave this as a gift
to the documentary crew.

684
01:01:58,382 --> 01:02:01,093
So when were you planning
on telling us about it?

685
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:04,930
Mr. Fogleman released the
records concerning this knife yesterday.

686
01:02:06,014 --> 01:02:09,518
But you've known about it for months.
How could you not tell us about it?

687
01:02:09,643 --> 01:02:13,147
Well, we had to send it to the lab first.
DNA testing.

688
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,274
There was blood on the knife.

689
01:02:15,774 --> 01:02:17,484
Just a little bit.

690
01:02:17,609 --> 01:02:21,989
I'll show you right here.
Lock joint where the blade folds back.

691
01:02:22,448 --> 01:02:23,449
Just not much.

692
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,704
Where you might miss it
if you're trying to wipe the blade clean.

693
01:02:31,165 --> 01:02:33,167
That did cross my mind.

694
01:02:33,834 --> 01:02:38,338
On January 26, 1994, Gitchell asked
you, "Have you used the knife?"

695
01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:41,300
And you said, "I never used it.
Hopefully I was going to use it

696
01:02:41,341 --> 01:02:45,012
"for deer hunting, but I never
had the opportunity to use it on a deer."

697
01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:49,892
That's right. But the reason that I said that
was 'cause I never hunted with it.

698
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:53,604
I didn't mean that I didn't try to use it
to cut some venison.

699
01:02:54,313 --> 01:02:57,399
Did Inspector Gitchell
tell you, "We found blood on this knife"?

700
01:02:57,483 --> 01:02:58,567
I don't remember.

701
01:02:58,734 --> 01:03:01,236
Check your transcript. Page 7.

702
01:03:01,695 --> 01:03:05,032
Now, I'll ask you again. Did Gitchell tell you,

703
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:08,702
"We found blood on this knife"?

704
01:03:09,077 --> 01:03:10,078
Yes, sir.

705
01:03:10,162 --> 01:03:13,665
Did Gitchell tell you
the blood on the knife was Chris' blood?

706
01:03:13,874 --> 01:03:15,542
I don't remember. It might be in here.

707
01:03:15,626 --> 01:03:18,086
Did you tell Gitchell, "I have no idea

708
01:03:18,170 --> 01:03:20,047
"how Chris' blood could be on that knife"?

709
01:03:20,172 --> 01:03:23,217
Yes, sir. I would not have any idea.

710
01:03:23,383 --> 01:03:26,887
Did you have any idea
how human blood was on the knife?

711
01:03:27,137 --> 01:03:30,432
Well, yes. As I was trying to use the knife

712
01:03:30,516 --> 01:03:33,560
to cut some venison
and make some beef jerky with it,

713
01:03:34,102 --> 01:03:35,646
I cut my thumb.

714
01:03:35,729 --> 01:03:37,731
Mr. Byers, do you recall saying,

715
01:03:37,815 --> 01:03:41,527
"I don't even remember nicking myself with it
cutting the deer meat or anything"?

716
01:03:41,568 --> 01:03:43,612
- Is that the answer you gave?
- Yes, sir.

717
01:03:43,695 --> 01:03:45,364
And is it the truth?

718
01:03:45,572 --> 01:03:48,700
At the time that he was
questioning me, I didn't...

719
01:03:48,909 --> 01:03:52,412
I mean, I might not have remembered.

720
01:03:52,704 --> 01:03:57,459
But then later on in the clay, I could have
remembered and talked to him about it then.

721
01:04:10,347 --> 01:04:11,890
You all right, buddy? You did great.

722
01:04:12,891 --> 01:04:16,270
-(CHURCH BELLS TOLLING)
- JOHN: I wasn't expecting that.

723
01:04:17,437 --> 01:04:23,777
I ran and Jessie caught me. Uh, he tied me up.

724
01:04:25,571 --> 01:04:27,281
How did they tie you up?

725
01:04:27,573 --> 01:04:28,782
Rope.

726
01:04:29,157 --> 01:04:34,413
<i>Then he grabbed my hands
and made me cut Chris.</i>

727
01:04:35,789 --> 01:04:41,378
<i>Jessie and Damien picked him up
and put a bucket where he was bleeding.</i>

728
01:04:42,963 --> 01:04:47,926
<i>Then they poured it in a glass
and made me drink it.</i>

729
01:04:51,805 --> 01:04:55,309
<i>GITCHELL: They poured his blood in</i> a <i>glass
and made you drink it?</i>

730
01:04:55,392 --> 01:04:56,643
<i>Yes, sir.</i>

731
01:04:56,727 --> 01:05:00,105
<i>Aaron, you're not... You're
not making this up, are you?</i>

732
01:05:00,230 --> 01:05:01,273
<i>No.</i>

733
01:05:01,315 --> 01:05:03,483
<i>- I mean, you and I are buddies, right?
-Yeah.</i>

734
01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:06,486
<i>We're buddies. You wouldn't be
telling me a story, would you?</i>

735
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:07,654
<i>No.</i>

736
01:05:07,738 --> 01:05:09,865
<i>How do I know that you're
telling me the truth?</i>

737
01:05:10,532 --> 01:05:13,035
I don't know.

738
01:05:13,327 --> 01:05:15,996
Good afternoon. My name's Ron Lax.

739
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:18,123
I'm an investigator working with the attorneys

740
01:05:18,165 --> 01:05:21,668
who represent Damien Echols
and Jason Baldwin.

741
01:05:24,004 --> 01:05:29,009
Um, please, I can't talk to you. Okay?

742
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,720
I don't want to get involved.

743
01:05:33,138 --> 01:05:35,098
Mrs. Hutcheson, you're already involved.

744
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:37,935
You feature prominently
in the prosecution's case.

745
01:05:38,060 --> 01:05:39,603
And from what I can tell,
you're the only real link

746
01:05:39,686 --> 01:05:42,731
between Jessie Misskelley
and Damien Echols.

747
01:05:42,814 --> 01:05:46,777
No.
(CHUCKLES) No, I can't talk about it.

748
01:05:48,695 --> 01:05:50,614
You gotta ask Don.

749
01:05:50,864 --> 01:05:52,866
- Detective Donald Bray?
- Yes.

750
01:05:53,617 --> 01:05:59,748
Yes, he... You just ask Don.
I gotta go now, I'm sorry.

751
01:06:00,540 --> 01:06:03,877
So why did Vicki Hutcheson come see you?
Was she in trouble?

752
01:06:04,711 --> 01:06:09,216
She, uh, looked to be part of a credit card
scam at a truck stop where she worked.

753
01:06:09,341 --> 01:06:10,425
So I called her in.

754
01:06:11,093 --> 01:06:15,055
She brought her kid in
the day after those boys went missing.

755
01:06:16,682 --> 01:06:22,062
I just wanted to let you know
that my boy, Aaron,

756
01:06:22,104 --> 01:06:24,231
is a close friend of them missing boys.

757
01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:28,026
Michael Moore and Chris Byers
are his two best friends.

758
01:06:28,151 --> 01:06:31,655
You think you might know something
to help the police find them boys?

759
01:06:32,197 --> 01:06:37,077
I'd say it's very possible. Right, honey?
It is possible.

760
01:06:37,869 --> 01:06:41,373
We questioned Aaron.
He told us about the meetings in the woods.

761
01:06:41,540 --> 01:06:45,043
It made sense to me.
I already knew about the Satanic cult.

762
01:06:45,836 --> 01:06:47,462
You knew about the cult?

763
01:06:47,671 --> 01:06:51,925
We been expecting something like this
to happen around here for quite a while.

764
01:06:52,968 --> 01:06:54,803
How did you confirm Aaron's story?

765
01:06:54,928 --> 01:06:56,304
Questioned Vicki.

766
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,101
Asked her if there was anything she knew
about an occult or devil worshippers.

767
01:07:01,143 --> 01:07:02,769
She said no.

768
01:07:02,936 --> 01:07:06,440
But then she said,
"How about I go play detective

769
01:07:07,024 --> 01:07:09,359
"to see what I can find out?"

770
01:07:09,651 --> 01:07:10,986
<i>VICKI: Jessie!</i>

771
01:07:14,156 --> 01:07:17,868
You're a real sweetie to come over here today
and do this in this heat.

772
01:07:21,038 --> 01:07:22,622
It's all right.

773
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,464
Do you know that boy, Damien Echols?

774
01:07:31,214 --> 01:07:33,091
Yeah. He's kind of weird.

775
01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:34,134
Mmm.

776
01:07:36,595 --> 01:07:40,098
Well, I really want to meet him.

777
01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:44,311
Do you think you could fix us up?

778
01:07:45,562 --> 01:07:47,522
(HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING)

779
01:07:47,981 --> 01:07:49,149
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)

780
01:07:49,191 --> 01:07:50,901
JESSIE: Vicki!

781
01:07:55,781 --> 01:07:59,076
Vicki, this is Jason Baldwin
and Damien Echols.

782
01:08:00,494 --> 01:08:03,997
Come on in, boys. Let's have a drink.

783
01:08:04,456 --> 01:08:07,959
Thanks, Jessie. I'll see you around.

784
01:08:10,545 --> 01:08:14,800
I told Damien that I want
to learn more about Satanism.

785
01:08:14,883 --> 01:08:20,097
And, um, and he invited me to an esbat.

786
01:08:21,723 --> 01:08:23,183
What the hell is that?

787
01:08:23,683 --> 01:08:27,354
I had to look it up. It's a...
It's a gathering of witches.

788
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:32,025
It was in an open field, under the full moon.

789
01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:36,279
Damien drove me there in his car,
it was a red Ford Escort.

790
01:08:37,155 --> 01:08:38,990
So me, Damien and Jessie...

791
01:08:40,826 --> 01:08:46,206
<i>The people were dressed all in black,
and you couldn't see their faces.</i>

792
01:08:46,248 --> 01:08:49,751
<i>- And they started to undress each other.
-(CHANTING)</i>

793
01:08:53,505 --> 01:08:56,383
<i>And I asked Damien to drive me home.</i>

794
01:08:56,424 --> 01:08:58,718
<i>I couldn't stay 'cause I was so afraid.</i>

795
01:08:58,802 --> 01:09:02,305
You were afraid. Afraid for your life?

796
01:09:02,889 --> 01:09:04,641
Yes, sir.

797
01:09:07,185 --> 01:09:08,478
(CHANTING)

798
01:09:26,246 --> 01:09:28,748
LAX: <i>I'm sorry but that sounds
like</i> a <i>load of crap.</i>

799
01:09:29,457 --> 01:09:31,793
Damien's got no license.
He doesn't even drive.

800
01:09:31,877 --> 01:09:34,713
None of his friends or family
have a red Ford Escort.

801
01:09:34,838 --> 01:09:37,215
I'm just telling you what she told me.

802
01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:40,260
And the esbat seemed to fit
what Aaron had been telling us.

803
01:09:40,302 --> 01:09:44,431
About people painted black,
chanting, doing what men and women do.

804
01:09:44,598 --> 01:09:47,100
But did you ever
find any evidence to corroborate

805
01:09:47,184 --> 01:09:48,768
these tales Aaron and Vicki told you?

806
01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:50,812
Or anything that would link
these murders to Damien?

807
01:09:50,937 --> 01:09:54,941
No physical evidence.
But we got something else.

808
01:09:55,025 --> 01:09:56,943
We got Jessie's confession.

809
01:09:58,737 --> 01:10:00,363
So Vicki's plan failed, right?

810
01:10:00,447 --> 01:10:03,700
Damien gave her nothing.
He never said anything that implicated them.

811
01:10:03,783 --> 01:10:07,746
Yeah, but Vicki's plan got Jessie involved,
which led him right into the lion's den.

812
01:10:07,787 --> 01:10:09,664
They got their confession from him instead.

813
01:10:09,748 --> 01:10:13,293
And Jason Baldwin gets caught
in the net just by picking the wrong friend.

814
01:10:13,335 --> 01:10:15,629
Ain't that what our mamas
always warned us about?

815
01:10:15,670 --> 01:10:17,464
Are they gonna put Aaron on the stand?

816
01:10:17,547 --> 01:10:19,674
Hell no. Have you seen those interview tapes?

817
01:10:19,758 --> 01:10:22,844
I mean, that kid's talking
about drinking from a bucket of blood.

818
01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,555
His story's turned out
to be nothing but pure fantasy.

819
01:10:25,639 --> 01:10:27,307
Ain't nothing but lies.

820
01:10:27,432 --> 01:10:30,477
No way they'll let the jury
see how absurd his confabulations are.

821
01:10:30,727 --> 01:10:32,729
So the jury's never gonna hear

822
01:10:32,812 --> 01:10:35,440
from this kid who's been the catalyst
for the entire case.

823
01:10:35,482 --> 01:10:36,942
Oh, but they did hear from him.

824
01:10:36,983 --> 01:10:40,195
Remember Gitchell's ridiculous
manipulations with the tape recorder?

825
01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:42,989
"Nobody knows what happened but me."

826
01:10:46,701 --> 01:10:50,038
They have to use stunts like that,
what else they got?

827
01:10:50,121 --> 01:10:53,583
The State sent 600 items
to the lab and out of all that they got nothing

828
01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:57,170
that directly links Damien,
Jason and Jessie to that crime scene.

829
01:10:58,004 --> 01:10:59,339
Look at this.

830
01:10:59,422 --> 01:11:01,258
Remember how Gitchell told the press

831
01:11:01,341 --> 01:11:04,010
that the case number
ending in 666 was a coincidence?

832
01:11:04,678 --> 01:11:06,888
This police report was
signed by Detective Ridge

833
01:11:06,972 --> 01:11:10,976
three days after our case was assigned,
and the case number ends in 555.

834
01:11:11,601 --> 01:11:15,355
They actually changed our case number
to the number of the beast?

835
01:11:16,564 --> 01:11:18,358
This is a goddamn witch hunt.

836
01:11:18,525 --> 01:11:21,319
Our boys were never suspects in this case.
They were targets.

837
01:11:21,444 --> 01:11:23,780
And once they set their sights
on Jason and Damien,

838
01:11:23,863 --> 01:11:25,031
they stopped looking for anybody else.

839
01:11:25,073 --> 01:11:27,909
But we don't have to. We can keep looking.

840
01:11:27,993 --> 01:11:29,911
Ron, we tried to go through everything,

841
01:11:29,995 --> 01:11:31,705
but they keep sending us mountains of stuff.

842
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:33,290
Whatever it takes.

843
01:11:34,958 --> 01:11:38,003
We may not be able
to prove our boys didn't do it.

844
01:11:38,044 --> 01:11:41,548
We might be able to prove the cops never
really tried to find out who did.

845
01:11:51,016 --> 01:11:53,393
<i>AARON'. I was there. Don't you see?</i>

846
01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:57,397
<i>And nobody knows what happened but me.</i>

847
01:11:58,648 --> 01:12:01,401
<i>DRIVER: About a year ago Damien told me
that the local devil worshippers</i>

848
01:12:01,443 --> 01:12:06,156
<i>had reached the end of their animal sacrifice
stage. So that summer he said</i>

849
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:08,533
<i>they were gonna take the next logical step.</i>

850
01:12:08,575 --> 01:12:11,411
<i>Sacrifice a human. A human.</i>

851
01:12:11,453 --> 01:12:13,913
<i>POLYGRAPH TECHNICIAN: At any time
Wednesday were you in Robin Hood Woods?</i>

852
01:12:13,997 --> 01:12:14,998
DAMIEN: No.

853
01:12:15,081 --> 01:12:17,250
<i>Were you present when
those boys were killed?</i>

854
01:12:17,292 --> 01:12:18,293
<i>No.</i>

855
01:12:18,376 --> 01:12:20,628
<i>Do you suspect anyone of
having killed those three boys?</i>

856
01:12:20,712 --> 01:12:21,713
<i>No.</i>

857
01:12:21,755 --> 01:12:23,256
<i>Do you know who killed those three boys?</i>

858
01:12:23,298 --> 01:12:24,299
No.

859
01:12:24,382 --> 01:12:26,760
- Did you kill any of those three boys?
- No.

860
01:12:27,135 --> 01:12:30,096
<i>GLORY. I know, but this crime is unthinkable.</i>

861
01:12:30,263 --> 01:12:33,475
<i>What if they did it? Have you thought of that?</i>

862
01:12:49,032 --> 01:12:51,951
Do you want some dessert?
I have that chocolate pie you like.

863
01:12:52,285 --> 01:12:54,329
No thanks, Annie. I'm fine.

864
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,540
You seemed upset when you
were in here the other day,

865
01:12:57,624 --> 01:13:01,127
having lunch with that lady.
She's really pretty.

866
01:13:03,004 --> 01:13:05,840
- She's my ex-wife.
- Oh.

867
01:13:06,758 --> 01:13:08,968
Not ex for too long, huh?

868
01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:15,183
So you okay lately?
I've been worried about you.

869
01:13:15,683 --> 01:13:17,477
Thanks, Annie, I'm fine.

870
01:13:19,312 --> 01:13:21,564
You know what I'm doing on this case?

871
01:13:24,401 --> 01:13:25,402
Sure, I do.

872
01:13:28,655 --> 01:13:31,324
You understand why I have to help them.

873
01:13:33,827 --> 01:13:37,330
If you don't help those poor boys, who will?

874
01:13:38,706 --> 01:13:43,503
Nobody will. Nobody but you.

875
01:14:26,504 --> 01:14:28,381
Arise and be baptized.

876
01:14:34,512 --> 01:14:39,058
Washing away your sins.
Calling on the name of the Lord.

877
01:14:41,895 --> 01:14:45,398
God will never put more
on you than you can bear.

878
01:15:09,714 --> 01:15:13,760
GRIFFIS: <i>Occult books talk
about the life force of the blood.</i>

879
01:15:14,177 --> 01:15:18,264
Usually the younger the victim,
the more power or force it has.

880
01:15:18,389 --> 01:15:23,686
And do the type of injuries give an
occult overtone to the murders?

881
01:15:23,811 --> 01:15:28,441
Yes. In some occult rituals,
people are over-killed.

882
01:15:29,275 --> 01:15:32,445
The body is repeatedly killed over and over,

883
01:15:32,570 --> 01:15:35,156
with many cuts and blows.

884
01:15:35,448 --> 01:15:40,537
So would you say that this
crime has the trappings of occultism?

885
01:15:41,246 --> 01:15:43,706
Of Satanic worship, in particular.

886
01:15:43,915 --> 01:15:47,669
Dr. Griffis, to get your PhD,
what classes were you required to take?

887
01:15:55,051 --> 01:15:56,719
Uh,none.

888
01:15:57,303 --> 01:16:01,641
And how were you accepted into enrollment
at Columbia Pacific University?

889
01:16:02,725 --> 01:16:07,063
I had to fill out, uh, several series of papers.

890
01:16:09,482 --> 01:16:12,986
Did you have to fill out a little flyer like this?

891
01:16:14,362 --> 01:16:17,699
"Call toll free
for information on how to become a doctor."

892
01:16:18,157 --> 01:16:19,993
This is a mail order college, isn't it?

893
01:16:20,076 --> 01:16:23,162
- University.
- They run a TV ad. Have you seen it?

894
01:16:23,246 --> 01:16:26,541
Yeah, you can send in a request
for what you want your degree in.

895
01:16:26,666 --> 01:16:29,294
Did you know this was a
correspondence school? I didn't.

896
01:16:29,335 --> 01:16:33,423
Judge, the witness has a mail order PhD
from a non-accredited school

897
01:16:33,506 --> 01:16:36,843
that required no classes.
We object to Dr. Griffis as an expert.

898
01:16:37,135 --> 01:16:40,263
Well, I'm not sure within Arkansas
you need a degree of any kind

899
01:16:40,346 --> 01:16:42,807
to be considered an expert
in a particular field.

900
01:16:43,391 --> 01:16:47,854
And I'm not persuaded at all
by your argument about a mail order PhD.

901
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:54,193
So I'm ruling him as qualified
as an expert in the area of occult.

902
01:17:06,706 --> 01:17:09,459
I'm looking for the manager, Marty King.
Is he here?

903
01:17:09,542 --> 01:17:11,502
He's in the back. I'll fetch him.

904
01:17:17,634 --> 01:17:19,719
Looks like business is pretty good.

905
01:17:19,886 --> 01:17:22,388
A whole lot better than it was
now that they've caught them Satanists

906
01:17:22,430 --> 01:17:23,890
who murdered them little boys.

907
01:17:24,932 --> 01:17:27,060
I'm the manager. What can I do for you?

908
01:17:27,101 --> 01:17:29,062
My name is Ron Lax. I'm an investigator,

909
01:17:29,103 --> 01:17:31,314
and I was wondering if I could
ask you a few questions

910
01:17:31,397 --> 01:17:32,690
about the night of May the 5th?

911
01:17:32,732 --> 01:17:36,069
Well, certainly,
I'll be glad to help out however I can.

912
01:17:37,153 --> 01:17:40,531
Hey, boss.
Here's one I don't remember seeing before.

913
01:17:40,573 --> 01:17:42,825
Who's Christopher Morgan?

914
01:17:43,076 --> 01:17:46,537
Did you in any way participate in
causing the death of any of those three boys?

915
01:17:46,579 --> 01:17:47,914
No.

916
01:17:47,955 --> 01:17:51,084
Do you know for sure
who caused those boys to die?

917
01:17:51,167 --> 01:17:52,543
No.

918
01:17:52,585 --> 01:17:55,505
Are you holding back any information
about those three boys?

919
01:17:55,588 --> 01:17:56,714
No.

920
01:17:56,798 --> 01:17:58,800
The polygraph showed deception.

921
01:17:58,883 --> 01:18:01,928
He says you went off the chart.

922
01:18:02,762 --> 01:18:05,348
I don't know why I failed it.
Must have been nervous.

923
01:18:28,121 --> 01:18:30,123
This is so fucking screwed up!

924
01:18:30,164 --> 01:18:32,583
Chris, I have a legal obligation
to get to the truth...

925
01:18:32,625 --> 01:18:35,962
- I'm telling you the truth.
- Or to exonerate you if you weren't involved.

926
01:18:36,045 --> 01:18:37,588
But based on the polygraph results,

927
01:18:37,630 --> 01:18:39,132
I don't feel like you're being
completely honest.

928
01:18:39,215 --> 01:18:40,800
What do you want me to do?
Do you want me to lie to you?

929
01:18:40,842 --> 01:18:44,137
Okay, I'm gonna lie.
I killed them. And all the other bullshit.

930
01:18:44,512 --> 01:18:47,098
- Are you arresting me?
- No, I am not.

931
01:18:57,024 --> 01:18:59,485
<i>MCDONOUGH ON TAPE:
You can't do things like that.</i>

932
01:18:59,527 --> 01:19:01,529
CHRIS <i>ON</i> TAPE: <i>Well, maybe I freaked out,</i>

933
01:19:01,779 --> 01:19:03,197
<i>and blacked out,</i>

934
01:19:03,281 --> 01:19:07,452
and killed the three little boys
and fucked 'em up the ass or something.

935
01:19:10,830 --> 01:19:14,333
<i>- Is it possible you could have done it?
-No!</i>

936
01:19:14,667 --> 01:19:18,755
<i>I have never hurt anyone intentionally.</i>

937
01:19:19,338 --> 01:19:20,798
Maybe there's two sides to you.

938
01:19:23,801 --> 01:19:25,678
Maybe I'm Chris and Hyde.

939
01:19:28,514 --> 01:19:32,018
I'm Ron Lax. Come this way.

940
01:19:35,605 --> 01:19:37,356
Chris, what are you doing here?

941
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,237
Chris!

942
01:19:45,031 --> 01:19:47,533
Your Honor, the defense calls
Christopher Morgan.

943
01:19:57,877 --> 01:19:59,754
Your Honor, may we approach?

944
01:20:03,257 --> 01:20:04,467
(CLEARS THROAT)

945
01:20:07,762 --> 01:20:10,223
Your Honor, I think they
are going to try to cross-examine him

946
01:20:10,306 --> 01:20:13,643
from the Oceanside police report,
and we submit that it's irrelevant.

947
01:20:13,726 --> 01:20:17,563
My understanding was that
this young man retracted his statement.

948
01:20:17,605 --> 01:20:20,858
We want to question Mr. Morgan to suggest
that the police case was far from certain.

949
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:22,735
Why would his testimony be relevant?

950
01:20:22,777 --> 01:20:26,405
FORD: Your Honor, we all want to question
witnesses that the police viewed as suspects

951
01:20:26,489 --> 01:20:28,324
before narrowing their focus on the accused.

952
01:20:28,407 --> 01:20:31,869
I'm not gonna allow you to
drag in every possible suspect

953
01:20:31,911 --> 01:20:36,082
unless you've got something that tie those
persons to some event in this case.

954
01:20:36,165 --> 01:20:40,169
Judge Burnett, don't you think
a confession suffices as a tie-in?

955
01:20:40,253 --> 01:20:42,922
Your Honor, they could just talk to anybody
on the street and they could say,

956
01:20:43,005 --> 01:20:44,674
-"Do you admit doing these murders?"
- Come on!

957
01:20:44,757 --> 01:20:47,677
This is not just anybody off the street.
This was the Oceanside PD

958
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,720
questioning him at the request
of the West Memphis PD.

959
01:20:49,762 --> 01:20:53,766
All right. All right.
I'm gonna begin the hearing. Anything else?

960
01:20:59,939 --> 01:21:04,443
Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to need
to conduct a hearing in camera so

961
01:21:04,485 --> 01:21:06,445
- I'm gonna ask you...
- What?

962
01:21:06,487 --> 01:21:08,322
...to go back to the jury room.

963
01:21:08,406 --> 01:21:09,949
JUDGE: Bailiff,
will you clear the courtroom, please?

964
01:21:10,032 --> 01:21:11,033
FORD: Your Honor...

965
01:21:11,117 --> 01:21:13,661
All right, folks.
All spectators, members of the press,

966
01:21:13,744 --> 01:21:15,788
please leave the courtroom.

967
01:21:19,208 --> 01:21:22,461
You, too, Mr. Lax.
I don't believe you're an officer of the court.

968
01:21:22,545 --> 01:21:25,172
Mr. Morgan, please step
forward to be sworn in.

969
01:21:25,256 --> 01:21:27,174
PAM: Why are they
questioning Chris Morgan?

970
01:21:27,592 --> 01:21:29,927
And why aren't we allowed
to hear what he says?

971
01:21:29,969 --> 01:21:33,598
Bobby DeAngelo asked for a picture of my
son and brought Chris Morgan into my home.

972
01:21:33,639 --> 01:21:35,308
I have a right to hear what he says.

973
01:21:35,391 --> 01:21:37,977
Yes, you do, Mrs. Hobbs. We all do.

974
01:21:45,318 --> 01:21:50,114
FORD: On May 17th, 1993, were
you questioned in Oceanside, California...

975
01:21:50,156 --> 01:21:52,700
CHRIS: Yes.
FORD: And in a videotaped statement...

976
01:21:58,664 --> 01:22:02,209
WOMAN: We are going to be all right.
Justice is gonna be sewed, and we love you,

977
01:22:02,293 --> 01:22:06,213
and we are just thinking of you and just
praying for you constantly, okay?

978
01:22:06,964 --> 01:22:09,175
(WOMAN TALKING INDISTINCTLY)

979
01:22:13,304 --> 01:22:15,348
So you said it just to get out?

980
01:22:16,223 --> 01:22:18,809
Yeah, after 17 hours I believe anybody would.

981
01:22:18,851 --> 01:22:21,520
Now, before you made
the statements in question,

982
01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:24,649
did you tell the officers in a state of anger that

983
01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:28,819
"if you want me to lie to you,
I'll lie to you and tell you that I did it"?

984
01:22:28,861 --> 01:22:30,529
- Yes.
- Uh-huh.

985
01:22:30,613 --> 01:22:34,116
And immediately after that,
did you again deny any knowledge

986
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:38,162
-of involvement in these murders?
- Yes.

987
01:22:40,623 --> 01:22:41,999
All right. Anything else?

988
01:22:42,041 --> 01:22:45,211
Jessie Misskelley denied that he did it,
admitted he did it, then denied it again

989
01:22:45,252 --> 01:22:48,381
and he's in prison!
This man did the same thing.

990
01:22:49,173 --> 01:22:52,343
And we are asking you to allow
us to present this testimony to the...

991
01:22:52,385 --> 01:22:53,594
No.

992
01:22:53,678 --> 01:22:56,138
We are entitled to raise reasonable doubt.

993
01:22:56,222 --> 01:22:57,723
That's what we're trying to do
with this testimony.

994
01:22:57,807 --> 01:22:59,725
Raise it or create it?

995
01:23:00,142 --> 01:23:01,811
FORD: Both!

996
01:23:07,149 --> 01:23:08,234
FORD: Burnett wouldn't let him testify.

997
01:23:08,317 --> 01:23:09,860
GLORI: it was so important
to get that kid on the stand

998
01:23:09,902 --> 01:23:11,737
-to show how arbitrary it's been.
- I know.

999
01:23:11,779 --> 01:23:13,322
But the judge says that's not relevant

1000
01:23:13,406 --> 01:23:15,324
because Morgan told the cops
he was gonna lie.

1001
01:23:15,408 --> 01:23:18,202
Besides, Fogleman says there's
no tape for the part

1002
01:23:18,244 --> 01:23:21,747
-of the interview where Morgan confesses.
- What? No, that's bullshit.

1003
01:23:22,373 --> 01:23:25,418
You can't see part of the tape
because Morgan put a tissue across the lens.

1004
01:23:25,501 --> 01:23:27,878
I saw it. I watched the whole thing.

1005
01:23:28,129 --> 01:23:29,672
But you can see it when he confesses.

1006
01:23:29,755 --> 01:23:31,048
PRICE: Yeah, but Fogleman said...

1007
01:23:31,090 --> 01:23:35,928
The audio's there for all of it, even when the
lens is covered. You tell them that?

1008
01:23:37,388 --> 01:23:39,515
You guys even watch the
entire six hours of tape?

1009
01:23:43,602 --> 01:23:46,439
- We have a synopsis from the Oceanside PD.
- A synopsis?

1010
01:23:47,064 --> 01:23:48,607
Since when do we depend on police reports?

1011
01:23:48,691 --> 01:23:50,943
Ron, we did not have enough time or money.

1012
01:23:50,985 --> 01:23:52,361
But you should have told Burnett...

1013
01:23:52,445 --> 01:23:54,071
I should have told him what?

1014
01:23:56,323 --> 01:24:00,161
Now, you want to try these cases, Ron?
Maybe you should have gone to law school.

1015
01:24:00,870 --> 01:24:04,373
You let us do our job
and you focus on doing yours.

1016
01:24:09,670 --> 01:24:13,466
I'm... I'm sorry, Ron. But we...

1017
01:24:15,009 --> 01:24:16,761
We are overwhelmed.

1018
01:24:17,303 --> 01:24:19,805
Fogleman is burying us in materials.

1019
01:24:19,847 --> 01:24:23,809
13,000 documents from the
police investigation alone.

1020
01:24:23,893 --> 01:24:26,812
We don't have enough time.
We don't have enough manpower. Money.

1021
01:24:26,896 --> 01:24:31,484
And frankly? Burnett?
He's just not giving us a chance.

1022
01:24:39,158 --> 01:24:44,121
<i>PAM'. That's all right, you
That's all right, Mama</i>

1023
01:24:44,205 --> 01:24:46,916
<i>Just anyway you do</i>

1024
01:24:46,999 --> 01:24:51,879
<i>That's all right
That's all right</i>

1025
01:24:53,339 --> 01:24:57,176
<i>Well, that's all right, Mama
That's all right with you</i>

1026
01:24:57,218 --> 01:25:00,054
<i>Anyway you do</i>

1027
01:25:00,137 --> 01:25:03,641
<i>Anyway you do
That's all right</i>

1028
01:25:56,443 --> 01:26:00,281
<i>MAN ON TV: And what</i> a <i>challenge that was
to persevere...</i>

1029
01:27:03,844 --> 01:27:06,680
Jason, the prosecutor's
office wants to offer you a deal.

1030
01:27:07,431 --> 01:27:09,725
If you agree to testify against Damien,

1031
01:27:09,808 --> 01:27:13,771
they'll only seek a sentence of 20 years.
Not death.

1032
01:27:15,022 --> 01:27:17,650
Now, you could be out
in 10 years, maybe less.

1033
01:27:18,651 --> 01:27:20,653
That's still a long time, though.

1034
01:27:21,737 --> 01:27:24,949
In 10 years you'll be what? 26 years old?

1035
01:27:25,157 --> 01:27:27,785
You'll have your whole life ahead of you.

1036
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,665
The case against you is weak.

1037
01:27:32,748 --> 01:27:36,168
But they're going to do everything they can
to tie you to Damien and his beliefs,

1038
01:27:36,252 --> 01:27:38,087
the things he said and done.

1039
01:27:38,212 --> 01:27:40,756
And despite the lack
of evidence, it is very possible

1040
01:27:40,923 --> 01:27:45,261
that Damien will go down for this.
And if he does,

1041
01:27:45,344 --> 01:27:48,847
there's a good chance he's
gonna drag you down with him.

1042
01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:56,981
I can't do it. I can't tell a lie about him.
It ain't right.

1043
01:28:00,693 --> 01:28:02,278
I can't.

1044
01:28:02,444 --> 01:28:04,822
When you were at the softball field,

1045
01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:08,242
did you hear somebody say
something about the murders?

1046
01:28:08,325 --> 01:28:14,039
Yes, sir. I heard, um, Damien Echols
say that he killed the three boys.

1047
01:28:15,499 --> 01:28:19,003
GIRL: I heard Damien Echols
say he killed all three of those little boys.

1048
01:28:19,461 --> 01:28:24,049
And before he turned himself in,
he was gonna kill two more.

1049
01:28:24,508 --> 01:28:28,012
And he already had one of them picked out.

1050
01:28:30,055 --> 01:28:33,183
Is the person who made that
statement present in this courtroom?

1051
01:28:33,225 --> 01:28:34,393
Yes, sir.

1052
01:28:34,435 --> 01:28:35,811
Would you point that person out for the jury?

1053
01:28:35,894 --> 01:28:37,604
Right there.

1054
01:28:37,813 --> 01:28:41,859
May the record reflect that the witness
has identified Damien Echols.

1055
01:28:42,401 --> 01:28:47,239
If anybody else is in this courtroom, who was
present when that statement was made,

1056
01:28:47,281 --> 01:28:50,534
would you point that person out for the jury?

1057
01:28:53,245 --> 01:28:55,247
Your Honor, may the record reflect

1058
01:28:55,289 --> 01:28:58,334
the witness has identified
the other defendant,

1059
01:28:58,751 --> 01:29:00,627
Jason Baldwin.

1060
01:29:20,314 --> 01:29:23,817
KING: Sir, are you all right?

1061
01:29:26,612 --> 01:29:28,989
After that I called the police.

1062
01:29:30,783 --> 01:29:36,372
And by the time Officer Meek came to the
drive-through, the man was already gone.

1063
01:29:36,622 --> 01:29:43,420
And the next day, uh, after
the bodies were found, and, uh,

1064
01:29:44,004 --> 01:29:47,424
Detective Ridge and Allen came
over and took a report.

1065
01:29:47,966 --> 01:29:50,969
<i>They came over straight from the crime scene,</i>

1066
01:29:51,053 --> 01:29:54,306
<i>and one of them asked me, he said,</i>

1067
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:58,143
<i>"Did the black man appear
to have muddy feet?</i>

1068
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:03,482
<i>"Like me, because we've been out there all
morning long in the water and mud."</i>

1069
01:30:05,567 --> 01:30:09,446
PRICE: Okay. And when you
looked at him, what did you say?

1070
01:30:09,988 --> 01:30:13,492
Um, I said, "Yes, sir."

1071
01:30:13,867 --> 01:30:19,623
'Cause his pants and shoes
were muddy and wet up to the knees.

1072
01:30:20,124 --> 01:30:21,667
<i>"Just like you."</i>

1073
01:30:22,626 --> 01:30:26,505
PRICE: Detective Ridge, on May 6th, 1993,

1074
01:30:26,547 --> 01:30:28,340
you went to the Bojangles Restaurant.

1075
01:30:28,424 --> 01:30:32,052
Did you take blood scrapings
from inside the women's restroom?

1076
01:30:32,136 --> 01:30:36,515
Yes, sir. I found trace remains in the
ladies' bathroom of the Bojangles.

1077
01:30:37,975 --> 01:30:43,272
PRICE: Detective, what is the date you sent
the scrapings to the crime lab to be analyzed?

1078
01:30:45,023 --> 01:30:46,775
They were never sent.

1079
01:30:46,942 --> 01:30:51,155
All right. Where are the
samples at this time, Detective?

1080
01:30:51,530 --> 01:30:56,201
I don't know, sir. They were lost.

1081
01:30:56,535 --> 01:30:59,204
PAM: What?
PRICE: You mean blood evidence

1082
01:30:59,705 --> 01:31:05,085
that you took for the purpose
of sending to the crime lab is just lost?

1083
01:31:06,378 --> 01:31:08,172
Yes, sir.

1084
01:31:10,215 --> 01:31:12,885
That's my mistake. I lost a piece of evidence.

1085
01:31:26,023 --> 01:31:31,069
Now, Damien, this book on witchcraft,
where did you get that?

1086
01:31:31,111 --> 01:31:34,698
The library had these books they were
getting rid of for 10 cents each.

1087
01:31:34,990 --> 01:31:38,202
Damien, there's some pages
in there that are underlined in red,

1088
01:31:38,243 --> 01:31:39,786
references to the devil.

1089
01:31:39,870 --> 01:31:41,914
That was already done when I got it.

1090
01:31:41,955 --> 01:31:45,000
I think somebody had a report
to do 'cause all through the book

1091
01:31:45,083 --> 01:31:48,921
there's like little notes,
dates, and stuff like that in the margin.

1092
01:31:49,379 --> 01:31:51,423
Okay.

1093
01:31:55,260 --> 01:31:58,764
Damien, why do you like to wear black?

1094
01:31:59,598 --> 01:32:02,100
I was told I look good in it.

1095
01:32:02,768 --> 01:32:05,437
And it helped me deal with people.

1096
01:32:07,272 --> 01:32:11,693
It would make them think
"He's weird." And it kept them away.

1097
01:32:16,448 --> 01:32:20,494
You've looked into the
Satanic side of the occult, correct?

1098
01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:25,249
- I'm familiar with it.
- You familiar with Aleister Crowley?

1099
01:32:25,499 --> 01:32:30,462
Based on his writings,
he believes in human sacrifice, doesn't he?

1100
01:32:30,504 --> 01:32:33,298
He also believed he was God, so...

1101
01:32:33,382 --> 01:32:38,887
His writings indicated that children
were the best type of human sacrifice.

1102
01:32:39,972 --> 01:32:42,641
- Correct?
- Yes, sir.

1103
01:32:42,808 --> 01:32:46,395
But Crowley has no particular
significance to you?

1104
01:32:47,104 --> 01:32:51,775
I know who he is. I've read about him,
but I've never read anything by him.

1105
01:32:53,944 --> 01:32:55,654
Do you recognize this?

1106
01:33:02,452 --> 01:33:03,996
What is that?

1107
01:33:06,248 --> 01:33:09,459
It's a paper I had on different alphabets.

1108
01:33:10,085 --> 01:33:12,421
Where you could write
things nobody could read.

1109
01:33:12,504 --> 01:33:14,840
Whose names are written on it?

1110
01:33:15,007 --> 01:33:17,676
Mine. Jason's.

1111
01:33:17,926 --> 01:33:22,055
Our newborn son's,
and one that says Aleister Crowley.

1112
01:33:22,389 --> 01:33:23,765
(CROWD GASPS)

1113
01:33:24,016 --> 01:33:28,186
So the only other name on this
document besides yours,

1114
01:33:28,312 --> 01:33:33,108
your best friend and your son
is Aleister Crowley.

1115
01:33:36,987 --> 01:33:38,280
If you say so.

1116
01:33:41,575 --> 01:33:44,703
Now, when he interviewed you
before your arrest, did you tell Officer Ridge

1117
01:33:44,745 --> 01:33:47,581
that you'd been a member
of a white witch group for five years?

1118
01:33:47,664 --> 01:33:50,167
I told him I was a Wiccan.
I've never been a member of a group.

1119
01:33:50,208 --> 01:33:52,377
- Oh, he made that up?
- Yes.

1120
01:33:52,461 --> 01:33:56,506
Officer Ridge also asked you
why would someone kill these kids

1121
01:33:56,548 --> 01:34:01,261
and your response was that the person
was sick or a Satanist. Is that correct?

1122
01:34:01,762 --> 01:34:07,100
He asked me was it possible if they could be
Satanists, and I said "Yeah, I guess."

1123
01:34:07,184 --> 01:34:12,564
When Officer Ridge asked you how do you
think the person feels who did this,

1124
01:34:13,398 --> 01:34:18,236
your answer was,
"Probably makes them feel good.

1125
01:34:18,904 --> 01:34:21,031
"Gives them power."

1126
01:34:22,115 --> 01:34:25,619
Is that correct?
Or, I guess, Officer Ridge made that up, too.

1127
01:34:25,702 --> 01:34:28,246
No. I used common sense on that.

1128
01:34:28,330 --> 01:34:31,083
If someone was doing it,
they must have wanted to.

1129
01:34:31,124 --> 01:34:35,379
And if they were doing something they
wanted to it must make them happy.

1130
01:34:35,420 --> 01:34:39,758
So in your mind it is common sense

1131
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:43,470
that killing three eight-year-olds
would make you feel good?

1132
01:34:45,222 --> 01:34:47,265
Whoever did it must have.

1133
01:34:47,599 --> 01:34:49,476
(SPECTATORS MURMURING)

1134
01:34:52,437 --> 01:34:56,775
ls there anything wrong
with wearing black in and of itself?

1135
01:34:57,067 --> 01:34:58,527
No.

1136
01:34:59,403 --> 01:35:04,032
Anything wrong with this
heavy metal stuff in and of itself?

1137
01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:05,784
No.

1138
01:35:06,451 --> 01:35:10,163
<i>The Book of Shadows.
Anything</i> wrong <i>with that?</i>

1139
01:35:10,706 --> 01:35:11,998
No.

1140
01:35:12,833 --> 01:35:16,336
But you don't look at these
things individually.

1141
01:35:16,878 --> 01:35:19,631
You have to look at them as a whole.

1142
01:35:20,132 --> 01:35:24,803
And when you look at all
this circumstantial evidence as a whole,

1143
01:35:24,886 --> 01:35:28,390
it proves that these
defendants committed this murder.

1144
01:35:30,434 --> 01:35:36,273
Now, all this Satanic stuff?
It doesn't matter whether I believe it.

1145
01:35:36,857 --> 01:35:40,569
It doesn't matter whether
the defense attorneys believe it.

1146
01:35:41,194 --> 01:35:45,365
It doesn't even matter
whether you believe in it.

1147
01:35:46,241 --> 01:35:51,079
The only thing that matters is
what these defendants believe.

1148
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,375
Now, you look at history,

1149
01:35:55,542 --> 01:35:59,296
at all the people that
have been killed in the name of religion,

1150
01:35:59,379 --> 01:36:01,965
it is a motivating force.

1151
01:36:02,382 --> 01:36:07,637
It gives people who want
to do evil the justification for what they do.

1152
01:36:09,055 --> 01:36:12,476
And when you look at it all together,

1153
01:36:12,517 --> 01:36:16,021
you begin to see inside Damien Echols.

1154
01:36:17,814 --> 01:36:22,694
You see inside that person. You look inside,

1155
01:36:25,572 --> 01:36:27,908
and there's not a soul in there.

1156
01:36:49,179 --> 01:36:51,473
The first verdict reads as follows.

1157
01:36:53,433 --> 01:36:55,769
"We, the jury, find Damien Echols

1158
01:36:55,894 --> 01:36:57,103
"guilty of capital murder

1159
01:36:57,187 --> 01:37:00,148
-"in the death of Stevie Branch.
-(CROWD GASPING)

1160
01:37:03,193 --> 01:37:06,029
"We, the jury, find Damien Echols

1161
01:37:06,071 --> 01:37:09,825
"guilty of capital murder
in the death of Chris Byers.

1162
01:37:13,578 --> 01:37:15,330
"We, the jury, find Damien Echols

1163
01:37:15,413 --> 01:37:18,416
"guilty of capital murder
in the death of Michael Moore."

1164
01:37:18,583 --> 01:37:21,211
No!No!No!

1165
01:37:26,925 --> 01:37:28,927
"We, the jury, find Jason Baldwin

1166
01:37:29,010 --> 01:37:32,764
"guilty of capital murder
in the death of Stevie Branch.

1167
01:37:33,265 --> 01:37:35,725
"We, the jury, find Jason Baldwin

1168
01:37:35,892 --> 01:37:39,145
"guilty of capital murder
in the death of Chris Byers.

1169
01:37:39,271 --> 01:37:41,690
"And we, the jury, find Jason Baldwin

1170
01:37:41,773 --> 01:37:45,277
"guilty of capital murder
in the death of Michael Moore."

1171
01:37:51,783 --> 01:37:55,287
Now, do either of you have any
legal reason to give the court

1172
01:37:55,328 --> 01:37:58,164
as to why a sentence should not be imposed?

1173
01:37:59,791 --> 01:38:01,418
No, sir.

1174
01:38:02,878 --> 01:38:04,629
'Cause I'm innocent.

1175
01:38:05,297 --> 01:38:07,340
Pardon, I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.

1176
01:38:07,632 --> 01:38:09,718
Because I'm innocent.

1177
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,806
Well, the jury has heard the
evidence and concluded otherwise.

1178
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:21,813
Mr. Baldwin, you are hereby adjudicated
guilty on three counts of capital murder.

1179
01:38:22,314 --> 01:38:26,318
You are hereby sentenced
to the Arkansas Department of Corrections

1180
01:38:26,484 --> 01:38:30,447
to a term of life
without the possibility of parole.

1181
01:38:32,365 --> 01:38:36,453
Mr. Echols, you have been
adjudicated guilty on three counts

1182
01:38:36,494 --> 01:38:38,830
of capital murder as well,

1183
01:38:39,164 --> 01:38:43,793
the death of Michael Moore,
Chris Byers and Stevie Branch.

1184
01:38:45,086 --> 01:38:47,839
You are remanded to the
custody of the Sheriff

1185
01:38:47,881 --> 01:38:51,092
and to immediately be transported to the
Arkansas Department of Corrections

1186
01:38:51,176 --> 01:38:55,972
where on the 5th of May, 1994,

1187
01:38:57,015 --> 01:38:58,475
a lethal quantity

1188
01:38:58,516 --> 01:39:00,644
-of an ultra short-acting barbiturate
-(CROWD GASPING)

1189
01:39:00,685 --> 01:39:04,689
in combination with a chemical
paralytic agent,

1190
01:39:04,856 --> 01:39:08,485
will be injected into your
body until you are dead.

1191
01:39:17,535 --> 01:39:19,329
(CAMERAS CLICKING)

1192
01:39:23,917 --> 01:39:25,585
(CROWD CLAMORING)

1193
01:40:20,765 --> 01:40:22,100
Mrs. Hobbs.

1194
01:40:23,309 --> 01:40:24,811
I'm Ron Lax.

1195
01:40:25,478 --> 01:40:27,105
I know who you are.

1196
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:42,203
And I don't hate you either.
Or them lawyers. Just don't forget about us.

1197
01:40:42,579 --> 01:40:46,666
- Don't... Don't let yourself forget about us.
- I won't.

1198
01:40:47,959 --> 01:40:49,294
I can't.

1199
01:40:51,588 --> 01:40:55,967
Ever since I saw your face on TV that first day,

1200
01:40:56,051 --> 01:40:58,344
I read the case files,

1201
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:04,934
saw the photographs of your son.

1202
01:41:07,687 --> 01:41:09,981
I'll never be able to forget any of it.

1203
01:41:13,818 --> 01:41:18,364
And I know that you may not be
able to feel much compassion right now

1204
01:41:18,448 --> 01:41:22,327
for the boys accused of this crime.
I understand that, I really do.

1205
01:41:24,662 --> 01:41:28,875
But if these boys are innocent,

1206
01:41:28,958 --> 01:41:32,295
would you want three more families
to lose their children, too?

1207
01:41:34,798 --> 01:41:39,177
I found this in Terry's things.

1208
01:41:42,138 --> 01:41:44,349
It's Stevie's pocket knife.

1209
01:41:46,017 --> 01:41:47,936
His Grandpa Hicks gave him.

1210
01:41:48,228 --> 01:41:51,731
- Your father?
- Yeah, my father.

1211
01:41:52,190 --> 01:41:54,025
Stevie loved this knife.

1212
01:41:54,526 --> 01:41:58,196
Just like his new bike.
Everything his grandpa ever gave him.

1213
01:42:01,574 --> 01:42:05,078
He'd take it with him everywhere.
He always had it.

1214
01:42:06,830 --> 01:42:10,583
- I think he would have had it that day.
- The day he was killed?

1215
01:42:11,376 --> 01:42:13,920
I don't know why they didn't find it on him.

1216
01:42:15,171 --> 01:42:18,049
And I don't know why my
husband would have it now.

1217
01:42:18,633 --> 01:42:21,678
You suspect your husband
might have something do to with all of this?

1218
01:42:21,761 --> 01:42:25,807
I don't know. I don't know.

1219
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,563
I don't know anything anymore.

1220
01:42:32,438 --> 01:42:36,734
After hearing Jessie's confession,

1221
01:42:36,776 --> 01:42:41,406
and all those things he didn't know

1222
01:42:41,447 --> 01:42:45,493
and the bloody man at Bojangles,

1223
01:42:45,577 --> 01:42:48,413
and Mark Byers and that bloody knife.

1224
01:42:49,247 --> 01:42:51,082
And those girls up on the stand,

1225
01:42:51,166 --> 01:42:54,294
acting like this is all just
some sort of game to them.

1226
01:42:55,920 --> 01:43:00,466
And what about Chris Morgan? They told me
that he confessed out in California,

1227
01:43:00,550 --> 01:43:04,053
and they wouldn't even let us hear
what he had to say on the stand.

1228
01:43:05,180 --> 01:43:10,685
It seems like everybody,
the police, the judge, everybody,

1229
01:43:10,768 --> 01:43:14,272
they all know who they want to think did this.

1230
01:43:16,774 --> 01:43:18,568
I don't know anymore.

1231
01:43:21,321 --> 01:43:22,739
Neither do I.

1232
01:43:27,452 --> 01:43:32,707
But I know in my heart that
Damien, Jason and Jessie did not do this.

1233
01:44:03,154 --> 01:44:08,618
<i>STEVIE: Well that's all right, Mama
That's all right for you</i>

1234
01:44:08,660 --> 01:44:13,498
<i>That's all right, Mama
Just any way you do</i>

1235
01:44:13,665 --> 01:44:14,666
<i>That's all right</i>

1236
01:44:35,019 --> 01:44:39,732
Is that too tight? You'll be back soon.

1237
01:44:39,857 --> 01:44:43,361
Real soon, sweetheart. I promise.