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  1. [2017-07-04 20:49:05] -->| Dave33333 (6b4da104@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.161.4) has joined #clubpenguinfanon
  2. [2017-07-04 20:49:36] <Dave33333> Did you know that your wiki can be shut down legally?
  3. [2017-07-04 20:49:45] <Dave33333> I know how and I ain't telling you.
  4. [2017-07-04 20:50:01] <Dave33333> :p
  5. [2017-07-04 20:50:35] <EDFan> Are you threatening me, Master Jedi?
  6. [2017-07-04 20:50:48] <Dave33333> Am I?
  7. [2017-07-04 20:51:00] <Chill57181> The senate will decide your fate.
  8. [2017-07-04 20:51:03] <Wonderweez> thats dependent on a simple yes or no answer, dave
  9. [2017-07-04 20:51:07] <Dave33333> Depending and where things go.
  10. [2017-07-04 20:51:12] <EDFan> *sheev screech*
  11. [2017-07-04 20:51:16] <Wonderweez> last time someone threatened the website (me) i had sea himself talk to me
  12. [2017-07-04 20:51:22] <Wonderweez> long story
  13. [2017-07-04 20:51:27] <Chill57181> oh no you fast-forwarded the scene
  14. [2017-07-04 20:51:32] <Dave33333> I am not threatening, I am letting you know.
  15. [2017-07-04 20:51:40] <EDFan> It sounds like a theat to me
  16. [2017-07-04 20:51:44] <EDFan> threat* smh can't spell
  17. [2017-07-04 20:51:47] <Dave33333> Oh?
  18. [2017-07-04 20:51:54] <Wonderweez> if you were letting us know, you would tell us how
  19. [2017-07-04 20:51:55] <Dave33333> To the guy who banned me for no reason?
  20. [2017-07-04 20:52:12] <EDFan> If by no reason you mean impersonating two separate users then yes
  21. [2017-07-04 20:52:12] <Dave33333> How bad is the ban if I don't tell?
  22. [2017-07-04 20:52:33] <Wonderweez> you were banned because you failed to comply to site policy pertaining to the impersonation of users
  23. [2017-07-04 20:52:45] <Wonderweez> and that banned was extended due to ban evasion by use of proxy
  24. [2017-07-04 20:52:46] <Dave33333> Because cease and desist sounds like a possible.
  25. [2017-07-04 20:53:05] <Dave33333> My phone is a proxy.
  26. [2017-07-04 20:53:16] <EDFan> Literally how on earth would a C&D *ever* apply to a wiki
  27. [2017-07-04 20:53:19] <Wonderweez> so you admit that you did
  28. [2017-07-04 20:53:46] <Wonderweez> Dave33333, C&D is only applicable if you are stealing content directly from a source without acknowledgement that you claim fair use
  29. [2017-07-04 20:53:47] <Wonderweez> which we do
  30. [2017-07-04 20:53:58] <Dave33333> You use Disney affiliation without permission.
  31. [2017-07-04 20:53:58] <Dave33333> Copyright.
  32. [2017-07-04 20:54:01] <Wonderweez> if that wasnt the case, we would have shut down many many years ago
  33. [2017-07-04 20:54:06] <EDFan> This wiki is licensed under the CC-BY-SA license, and anyone can copy what you write here as long as they credit you for the document. You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar resource (see Club Penguin Fanon Wiki:Copyrights for details)
  34. [2017-07-04 20:54:11] <EDFan> Wrong again
  35. [2017-07-04 20:54:22] <Wonderweez> Dave33333, then why werent we shut down in 2007 on the CPW
  36. [2017-07-04 20:54:29] <Wonderweez> or in 2011 when we moved offsite
  37. [2017-07-04 20:54:35] <EDFan> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ if you want to read more
  38. [2017-07-04 20:54:36] <Wonderweez> just to disprove the "wikia big company protection"
  39. [2017-07-04 20:55:18] <Wonderweez> also, since you are not acting in the interest of Disney, or are an accredited lawyer associated with the disney company, any advice they are to receive is nonbinding and likely will not be listened to
  40. [2017-07-04 20:55:28] <Dave33333> It doesn't matter, if I were to apply a C&D,
  41. [2017-07-04 20:55:42] <EDFan> That's not how it works
  42. [2017-07-04 20:55:44] <Dave33333> It would be investigated and would be ordered anyway.
  43. [2017-07-04 20:55:46] <EDFan> Like at all
  44. [2017-07-04 20:55:54] <Wonderweez> once again, you do not own the content, therefore you cannot apply C&D
  45. [2017-07-04 20:55:58] <Dave33333> It's all about money, and a good lawyer.
  46. [2017-07-04 20:56:02] <EDFan> And again, the wiki is protected under creative commons
  47. [2017-07-04 20:56:08] <Wonderweez> neither of which you have likely
  48. [2017-07-04 20:56:19] <EDFan> Hey Dave, you know that pony forum you use?
  49. [2017-07-04 20:56:22] <Dave33333> Key word: Wiki money.
  50. [2017-07-04 20:56:26] <EDFan> They aren't owned by hasbro
  51. [2017-07-04 20:56:34] <Dave33333> None of your concern.
  52. [2017-07-04 20:56:36] <Wonderweez> hey ed lets do a C&D on them
  53. [2017-07-04 20:56:42] <EDFan> So I wonder what would happen if I applied for a CnD on them?
  54. [2017-07-04 20:56:48] <Dave33333> Try, I dare you.
  55. [2017-07-04 20:56:48] <Wonderweez> but dave, per your logic we could
  56. [2017-07-04 20:56:55] <EDFan> I'm sure they wouldn't mind the NEET bux from all of those users
  57. [2017-07-04 20:57:25] <Dave33333> Your wiki would die fast.
  58. [2017-07-04 20:57:25] <Dave33333> EDFan, you would be countersued and would lose money.
  59. [2017-07-04 20:57:42] <EDFan> So you admit there's no basis to it
  60. [2017-07-04 20:57:43] <Wonderweez> but we're being dutiful law abiding C&D spotting citizens
  61. [2017-07-04 20:57:47] <Wonderweez> ^
  62. [2017-07-04 20:57:56] <EDFan> You just defeated your own argument
  63. [2017-07-04 20:58:06] <Chill57181> gg
  64. [2017-07-04 20:58:11] <Dave33333> Doesn't matter now, there are loopholes everywhere.
  65. [2017-07-04 20:58:32] <Wonderweez> Dave33333, is that supposed to be a hollow threat
  66. [2017-07-04 20:58:54] <EDFan> tbh we should call up Sea and see (lel) what he says
  67. [2017-07-04 20:59:06] <Wonderweez> i know hat may have his info
  68. [2017-07-04 20:59:19] <EDFan> I bet he'd be thrilled at someone threatening to take down the wiki he pays for out of pocket
  69. [2017-07-04 20:59:28] <Wonderweez> thats the other thing
  70. [2017-07-04 20:59:53] <Wonderweez> sea knows his stuff and how to run this wiki, seeing as he is part of the LARGEST FAIR USE SITE in the world, wikipedia
  71. [2017-07-04 21:00:27] <EDFan> I mean that's the thing, the CPWN runs under the same exact licenses as wikipedia does
  72. [2017-07-04 21:00:35] <Wonderweez> exactly
  73. [2017-07-04 21:02:45] |<-- Dave33333 has left freenode (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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