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- [08:01] --- Wed Sep 13 2017
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- [13:24] <@Roman_Dmowski> Tyuz: have we signed new nap with North?
- [13:25] <Sikorka> cześć Romeczku
- [13:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> hej
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- [13:52] <&@War> [letecimedo] https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7b/d2/48/7bd24830caa96a7fe94ccc32003a6e52.jpg
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- [14:17] <Tyuz> not already Roman_Dmowski
- [14:17] <Tyuz> But i think we will
- [14:17] <Tyuz> The elite is the enemy ofc
- [14:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> we want to add point about mercing
- [14:18] <Tyuz> And 7 too
- [14:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> sins will help
- [14:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> against lithuania
- [14:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> in few days
- [14:18] <@letecimedo> suit up you mean xd
- [14:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> help canada and usa
- [14:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> they will take japan high
- [14:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> my guys wants to have at least possibility to merc
- [14:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> bcs its kinda stale now
- [14:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> mercing with previous notification
- [14:19] <Tyuz> the prob
- [14:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> who bought dmg
- [14:20] <Tyuz> It's like have as enemy 7, suit up and north
- [14:20] <Tyuz> and don't think 7 buy merc
- [14:20] <@Roman_Dmowski> canada may spare supplies
- [14:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> anyway
- [14:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> we dont need this nap
- [14:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> seriously
- [14:23] <Tyuz> ofc we need
- [14:23] <Tyuz> Look
- [14:23] <@Roman_Dmowski> it makes me quit
- [14:23] <@Roman_Dmowski> they wont attack us
- [14:23] <Tyuz> Suit up is naping every where
- [14:23] <Tyuz> They will if they see easy region to take
- [14:23] <@Roman_Dmowski> I talked with Utan
- [14:23] <@Roman_Dmowski> and Agent smith with hajarian
- [14:24] <@Roman_Dmowski> we are good without nap
- [14:24] <@Roman_Dmowski> thats my opinion
- [14:24] <@Roman_Dmowski> do what you want
- [14:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> this game goes in wrong direction not beacuse rail
- [14:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> but chicken people
- [14:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> turkey and lt could fight for weeks non stop
- [14:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> but they decided to nap
- [14:25] <Tyuz> and it's not my fault, i always fought op alliance, but i can't when they nap everywhere
- [14:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> I dont want to be a part of it
- [14:26] <Tyuz> And i will not talk about cheaters
- [14:26] <@Roman_Dmowski> :/
- [14:26] <Tyuz> Reported 20 workers in italy org before i wasn't able report more
- [14:26] <Tyuz> Suit up killed suna
- [14:27] <Tyuz> Like in primera, without play i know there were 2 op alliance who refused hit each other
- [14:27] <Tyuz> It's more or less the same in suna
- [14:27] <Tyuz> but you can add suit up is op and full of cheaters but staff don't care
- [14:30] <Tyuz> And Utan is telling me CAD will help CAnada ?
- [14:30] <Tyuz> CAnada can, one time in their life, do something usefull ?
- [14:30] <Tyuz> Like hit against Suit up
- [14:30] <@Roman_Dmowski> not cad
- [14:30] <@Roman_Dmowski> buddha and lagoles
- [14:30] <@Roman_Dmowski> will hit
- [14:31] <Tyuz> amazing ... And useless
- [14:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> 1435
- [14:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> dday
- [14:31] <Tyuz> Like always, same guys who cry serv die etc
- [14:31] <Tyuz> But hit against the wrong enemy
- [14:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> yeah
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> the players arent universally obligated to assure the game balance
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> we can do things
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> that could provoke war
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> between
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> turks and lithuanians
- [14:32] <Tyuz> lol
- [14:32] <Tyuz> You can't
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> or anyone else for that matter
- [14:32] <Tyuz> They are pussy
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> technicly you can
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> with manipulation
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> and propaganda
- [14:32] <Tyuz> They naped 2 times, without reason
- [14:32] <Tyuz> And they say everywhere they are good f riends
- [14:32] <Tyuz> You can't provok a war
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> that only makes it harder
- [14:32] <@letecimedo> not impossible
- [14:33] <Tyuz> When Turkey know only LT can defeat them, and when LT don't fight if they can't earn something
- [14:33] <Tyuz> Come on, stop useless argues, it's IMPOSSIBLE
- [14:33] <Tyuz> Propaganda is for noob
- [14:33] <Tyuz> Not experienced players
- [14:34] <@letecimedo> simple propaganda is enough to control noobs
- [14:34] <@letecimedo> but propaganda can be more advanced
- [14:34] <@letecimedo> idk
- [14:35] <@letecimedo> find a random person in turkey
- [14:35] <Tyuz> And Utank is annoying me now
- [14:35] <@letecimedo> that you remotely trust
- [14:35] <@letecimedo> pay him to hit against lithuania
- [14:35] <@letecimedo> they wont imidietly consider the nap broken
- [14:35] <Tyuz> https://puu.sh/xyLcE/70f4f71d00.png
- [14:35] <Tyuz> Lol come on
- [14:35] <@letecimedo> but their friendship will slowly become weaker
- [14:35] <Tyuz> Ritmas and kralice will talk
- [14:35] <Tyuz> And say everything is okay
- [14:35] <Tyuz> And if this person betray us finaly
- [14:35] <Tyuz> We are fucked
- [14:36] <Tyuz> Think our enemy is no brain to play dangerous like this
- [14:36] <Tyuz> It's the worst solution
- [14:37] <@Roman_Dmowski> true
- [14:37] <@Roman_Dmowski> we could use random people to provoke war between countries that have already bad relations
- [14:37] <@Roman_Dmowski> but lt-tr are stable
- [14:37] <@letecimedo> everyone hates turks
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> if we want lt-turkey war
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> we would need to join
- [14:38] <@letecimedo> its still possible
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> someones side
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> that would ecourage
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> them
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> lt/tr
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> chicken people needs 2vs1
- [14:38] <@Roman_Dmowski> to be confident
- [14:41] <Tyuz> and actually
- [14:41] <Tyuz> No one can face suit up
- [14:42] <Tyuz> If you want defeat suit up with LT, you must be close to beat SU alone
- [14:42] <Tyuz> LT will never take a risk
- [14:42] <Tyuz> With a safe border
- [14:43] <@letecimedo> i spoke with utan
- [14:43] <@letecimedo> he told me they would have most likely sided with us and fought turkey if we asked them before they made nap
- [14:43] <Tyuz> lol
- [14:43] <Tyuz> But no chance, they did nap :3
- [14:43] <@letecimedo> fck the nap
- [14:43] <@letecimedo> its just a nap
- [14:44] <@letecimedo> people over estimate the moral value of naps
- [14:44] <Tyuz> oh it's simple
- [14:44] <Tyuz> If they don't want fight
- [14:44] <Tyuz> Suna is over
- [14:45] <Tyuz> And i think Suit up will dow us the day after the end of our nap
- [14:45] <Tyuz> But this time, we have no chance
- [14:45] <Tyuz> Since they increased their amazing amount of supply
- [14:45] <Tyuz> All productivity are decreasing, except them :3
- [14:46] <Tyuz> Italy 38 k ... Lol
- [14:46] <Tyuz> They weren't know to have big productivity
- [14:46] <Tyuz> And we had more than them with France
- [14:47] <Tyuz> But look like Italy don't know crisis of players
- [14:47] <Tyuz> greece , more or less productivity with 50 regions or 6 regions ... :3
- [14:47] <Tyuz> South Africa, 40 k ... lol
- [14:56] <Tyuz> I think we will need update the article
- [14:56] <Tyuz> Because look like some guys are dumb
- [14:56] <Tyuz> And don't know duchkid is no more vSC
- [14:56] <Tyuz> Look like see him hit against us isn't enought
- [14:57] <Tyuz> But i think we can't kick NL, or they will use this bridge to have more border with us
- [15:03] <Tyuz> When you see than Utan is afraid of CAD
- [15:03] <Tyuz> I can't imagine LT agree in a fight against turkey lol ...
- [15:03] <Tyuz> ( without talk turkey + suit up )
- [15:10] <Tyuz> But this time i think Suna is over
- [15:10] <Tyuz> We will not be able to resist against Suit up this time
- [15:10] <Tyuz> If we are lucky, some will be able sign a nap with them
- [15:10] <@Roman_Dmowski> we could not last time tbh
- [15:10] <@Roman_Dmowski> :P
- [15:10] <Tyuz> Or they will just invade us
- [15:10] <Tyuz> Yeah but they were dumb
- [15:11] <Tyuz> To sign a nap
- [15:11] <Tyuz> But this time their strenght increased
- [15:12] <@Roman_Dmowski> we cant do much about it only to ally with Lithuania which signed nap
- [15:12] <Tyuz> so the solution is kill the game more if no one want fight ? :D
- [15:12] <Tyuz> Should i talk to Utan about this solution now
- [15:13] <Tyuz> or i miss understood it ?
- [15:13] <Tyuz> Are you talking about fake join The north
- [15:14] <Tyuz> Roman_Dmowski:
- [15:14] <Tyuz> Tell me
- [15:14] <Tyuz> i'm in PM with Utan
- [15:14] <Tyuz> So i can talk with him quickly
- [15:14] <Tyuz> But i think, it's maybe the solution if they accept
- [15:15] <Tyuz> And it can domage relation between LT and TR if they accept
- [15:15] <Tyuz> Suit up will be mad
- [15:15] <Tyuz> and will think LT is in our side
- [15:15] <@Roman_Dmowski> hm
- [15:15] <Tyuz> i know it means no war
- [15:16] <Tyuz> But, do you think people are ready to be wipe
- [15:16] <Tyuz> :D
- [15:16] <@Roman_Dmowski> I have lost
- [15:16] <@Roman_Dmowski> what are you talking about now
- [15:16] <Tyuz> the nap noth suit up
- [15:16] <Tyuz> Include new members
- [15:17] <@Roman_Dmowski> and
- [15:17] <Tyuz> Since we have no chance alone, and suit up is naping every where
- [15:17] <@letecimedo> how do you mean fake joining the north ?
- [15:17] <Tyuz> If we can't defeat them, we can kill this game
- [15:17] <Tyuz> If we " join " the noth officialy
- [15:17] <Tyuz> But stay together unofficialy
- [15:18] <Tyuz> We will stay in the nap
- [15:18] <Tyuz> And SU will be mad
- [15:18] <Tyuz> And think LT is in our side
- [15:18] <Tyuz> But there are risks, like LT understand than we are weak
- [15:18] <@Roman_Dmowski> but they signed nap anyway
- [15:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> even if we get wiped we will have some fights before that
- [15:19] <Tyuz> 8. If any country listed in top article, leave any of alliances, rules of that NAP would valid for that country up to end of that NAP. Same thing if some new member join to any of alliance, NAP rules are valid for them, too. .. same if the alliance disbanded
- [15:19] <@letecimedo> you think they would accept all our countries in the north ?
- [15:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> thats what this game about imo
- [15:19] <Tyuz> Yeah but
- [15:19] <@Roman_Dmowski> lol
- [15:19] <Tyuz> It's not only our role to fight
- [15:19] <Tyuz> Actually it's like " no one will fight, so we will fight where we have no chance to give some life "
- [15:19] <Tyuz> And they will do same shit again
- [15:20] <Tyuz> Wipe us / sign separate nap, disband some alliance
- [15:20] <Tyuz> The prob, suit up stay alive because they have fights
- [15:20] <Tyuz> ( and no one can defeat them )
- [15:21] <@Roman_Dmowski> can we fight suit up with LT
- [15:21] <Tyuz> i don't think LT will fight them actually
- [15:21] <@Roman_Dmowski> I mean
- [15:21] <Tyuz> But i think if we can use their nap
- [15:21] <Tyuz> Suit up will be mad
- [15:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> now its over bcs they signed nap
- [15:22] <Tyuz> come on
- [15:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> but the only way to make sune alive is our alliance with LT
- [15:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> and attack suit up
- [15:22] <Tyuz> You trust really them than they were agree fight against Suit up ? :p
- [15:22] <Tyuz> in any way , there are no chance TE vs SU
- [15:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> I dont trust them
- [15:22] <@Roman_Dmowski> but we also dont have any choice
- [15:22] <Tyuz> TE + LT vs SU maybe, maybe not but it's better than nothing
- [15:23] <Tyuz> And there is risk LT tell SU about our plan to use nap
- [15:23] <Tyuz> And they cooperate with them
- [15:23] <Tyuz> But it's not like it will change something
- [15:23] <Tyuz> If they refuse and cooperate with SU, we will not be wipe by SU, but wipe by SU and The North :)
- [15:23] <Tyuz> Who care :D
- [15:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> SU wont wipe us
- [15:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> uh
- [15:25] <@Roman_Dmowski> north*
- [15:26] <@Roman_Dmowski> Utan wont attack us
- [15:26] <@Roman_Dmowski> no way
- [15:26] <@Roman_Dmowski> he dislikes ritmas decisions
- [15:26] <@Roman_Dmowski> when we were in soc
- [15:26] <Tyuz> So we can try use their nap
- [15:27] <@Roman_Dmowski> how do you want that
- [15:27] <@Roman_Dmowski> add our alliance to the north?
- [15:27] <Tyuz> I want this serv alive, but honnestly, we can't face SU atm
- [15:27] <Tyuz> Yeah
- [15:27] <Tyuz> 8. If any country listed in top article, leave any of alliances, rules of that NAP would valid for that country up to end of that NAP. Same thing if some new member join to any of alliance, NAP rules are valid for them, too. .. same if the alliance disbanded
- [15:27] <Tyuz> Same thing if some new member join to any of alliance, NAP rules are valid for them, too
- [15:27] <Tyuz> The important part
- [15:27] <@Roman_Dmowski> have you talked about it with Utan
- [15:27] <Tyuz> not already
- [15:27] <Tyuz> But if we are agree, i can start talks
- [15:28] <Tyuz> i will tell him it's not official now, than we will talk in HQ too
- [15:28] <@Roman_Dmowski> its choice between
- [15:28] <Tyuz> But, if he can think about it
- [15:28] <@Roman_Dmowski> have some fun and being wiped vs be bored to death
- [15:28] <Tyuz> no it's more
- [15:29] <Tyuz> Being wiped ( and probably for long time this month ) will lead to loose players , and be bored to death and hope than we create a war between LT and Turkey :D
- [15:29] <@Roman_Dmowski> but how do you provoke it
- [15:29] <@Roman_Dmowski> its enough?
- [15:29] <@Roman_Dmowski> that we join the north
- [15:29] <Tyuz> If we use this nap and they are agree
- [15:30] <@Roman_Dmowski> I'm not sure
- [15:30] <Tyuz> You think Suit up will be happy ? :D
- [15:30] <@Roman_Dmowski> no
- [15:30] <@Roman_Dmowski> but they wont attack us
- [15:30] <Tyuz> We can't be sure but it's our only chance
- [15:30] <Tyuz> Yeah they will not probably
- [15:30] <Tyuz> But it will decrease relation with them
- [15:30] <Tyuz> And after we can talk about destroy this fuckying op alliance
- [15:30] <Tyuz> I told already Utan we were against OP alliance in suna
- [15:31] <Tyuz> So if i talk to him honestly about op alliance
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> first ask him if he agree
- [15:31] <Tyuz> Maybe he will think about it too
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> with our plan
- [15:31] <Tyuz> So i ask him :D
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> true is
- [15:31] <Tyuz> I will ask him without tell
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> we use LT now
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> as tool
- [15:31] <Tyuz> Than we want a war LT / TR
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> and they may not like it
- [15:31] <Tyuz> We have choice ?
- [15:31] <@Roman_Dmowski> no
- [15:32] <Tyuz> If we do nothing we will be destroy :D
- [15:32] <@Roman_Dmowski> Turkey is dumb
- [15:32] <@Roman_Dmowski> they could ally with 7 sins
- [15:32] <@Roman_Dmowski> canada and usa
- [15:32] <@Roman_Dmowski> and attack LT
- [15:32] <@Roman_Dmowski> but nope
- [15:32] <Tyuz> i think they are planing a long wipe for us
- [15:32] <Tyuz> Malawi was an easy farm for them
- [15:32] <Tyuz> They prefered nap too
- [15:33] <@Roman_Dmowski> ok lets try
- [15:33] <@Roman_Dmowski> we will buy some time
- [15:33] <@Roman_Dmowski> at least
- [15:33] <Tyuz> and if michal want work as staff member
- [15:33] <Tyuz> He can check Italy org ... :D
- [15:34] <@Roman_Dmowski> yeah
- [15:35] <Tyuz> i reported 20 workers probably
- [15:35] <Tyuz> Some miss the same day
- [15:35] <Tyuz> And majority, no friends, no shout, nothing
- [15:35] <Tyuz> Just a salary :3
- [15:35] <Tyuz> Usefull when it's the org who pay :3
- [15:36] <@Roman_Dmowski> I'm pretty sure
- [15:36] <@Roman_Dmowski> that Utan may agree to join us
- [15:36] <@Roman_Dmowski> but we will need to help against canada/7sins
- [15:37] <@Roman_Dmowski> but lets try
- [15:40] <Tyuz> i think i said all https://puu.sh/xyNvw/8e9f0850d6.png
- [15:40] <Tyuz> cross fingers :D
- [15:46] <Tyuz> https://puu.sh/xyNHI/96c9a7281f.png
- [15:46] <Tyuz> Roman_Dmowski: :D
- [15:46] <Tyuz> Well Utan look liek ok
- [15:46] <Tyuz> the prob ... We will talk with ritmas: D
- [15:52] <Tyuz> Well i think we will fix a meeting this week end
- [15:52] <Tyuz> To talk about this plan
- [15:52] <Tyuz> Without know LT answers
- [15:54] <Tyuz> about 7th kingdom
- [15:54] <Tyuz> I can destroy this alliance if i find log
- [15:54] <Tyuz> Where brazil investigate themself to ban chiwan
- [15:57] <@Roman_Dmowski> why ritmas
- [15:57] <@Roman_Dmowski> .
- [15:58] <@Roman_Dmowski> I see
- [15:58] <@Roman_Dmowski> damn
- [15:58] <@Roman_Dmowski> .
- [15:59] <Tyuz> it's better than nothing :D
- [15:59] <Tyuz> Utan look like agree, not like he is against this idea
- [15:59] <Tyuz> But yeah the prob, they will want with fight for them
- [15:59] <Tyuz> So what is better, SU / TE with no chance
- [15:59] <Tyuz> Or in 2 months ( and no one know what will happen ) with a possible TE vs SU and 7
- [16:01] <@Roman_Dmowski> eh
- [16:01] <@Roman_Dmowski> we will see how it develop
- [16:01] <@Roman_Dmowski> in a week
- [16:01] <@Roman_Dmowski> when canada/us/sins party start
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- [16:59] <&@War> [HarveyDent] Know yourself,know your enemy.A thousand battles,a thousand victories.
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- [16:59] <@HarveyDent> Hoi
- [17:01] <@HarveyDent> .log
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- [17:01] <&@marcziee> eyyo lmao
- [17:02] <Sikorka> HarveyDent <3
- [17:04] <&@marcziee> Tyuz
- [17:04] <&@marcziee> any plans for our foreign policy?
- [17:04] <@HarveyDent> Sikorka hey :*
- [17:04] <&@marcziee> seems like Tr is making moves. we should too
- [17:06] <@Roman_Dmowski> we will merge with the north
- [17:06] <@Roman_Dmowski> :>
- [17:07] <&@marcziee> souds fun
- [17:07] <&@marcziee> sounds*
- [17:07] <@Roman_Dmowski> for details
- [17:07] <@Roman_Dmowski> ask Tyuz
- [17:07] <@Roman_Dmowski> :P
- [17:08] <Tyuz> well you can read logs
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- [17:22] <&@marcziee> around when did you guys talk aabout it?
- [17:22] <&@marcziee> Tyuz:
- [17:23] <Tyuz> today
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- [17:28] <&@marcziee> .log
- [17:31] <&@marcziee> oh okay
- [17:31] <&@marcziee> is this a final decision or is it still up to debate?
- [17:38] <Tyuz> we will debate
- [17:38] <Tyuz> But don't think we have choice if they accept it
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