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- [23:11:07] <Derpy> hi
- [23:11:08] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:11:11] <Derpy> want to play terraria 1.1.1?
- [23:11:12] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:11:18] <Nientiendo> 1.1.1?
- [23:11:25] <Nientiendo> in a bit
- [23:11:27] <Nientiendo> i have to study
- [23:11:45] <Derpy> I'm going off in a half hour
- [23:11:46] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:20:59] <Nientiendo> tbh
- [23:21:16] <Nientiendo> demologic did a much better job than mojang on the translations
- [23:21:27] <Derpy> y?
- [23:21:27] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:21:54] <Nientiendo> mojang's translation looks like a fucking google translator did it
- [23:22:12] <Nientiendo> i can tell that demologic used an actual translating person
- [23:22:39] <Derpy> Because Mojang wouldn't hire a hundred of natives from several regions to make actual 100% accurate translations
- [23:22:42] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:23:30] <Derpy> Thus, Minecraft can be translated into almost every known language, while terraria can only translate into five
- [23:23:30] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:24:16] <Nientiendo> because
- [23:25:00] <Nientiendo> jeb was so lazy to hire (fyi only one translating person is needed) that he used a google translator, so it was easier to adapt it to other languages
- [23:25:19] <Nientiendo> terraria has more accurate translations and it has less languages because they used actual people to translate
- [23:25:42] <Derpy> How could a single person speak over 10 languages?
- [23:25:42] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:26:27] <Derpy> You seem to be missing the facts here, Jeb had community members to review the translations in his pre-releases
- [23:26:27] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:26:46] <Nientiendo> that dosent mean they knew the language
- [23:27:06] <Nientiendo> its like hiring an english dude to check the spanish translation
- [23:27:23] <Nientiendo> for example
- [23:27:28] <Nientiendo> if you were from the staff
- [23:27:31] <Nientiendo> and you are learning spanish
- [23:27:37] <Derpy> Do you really think they could really pick any random person to do the job?
- [23:27:37] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:27:48] <Nientiendo> its really easy
- [23:27:54] <Nientiendo> just hire a mature person from a country
- [23:27:56] <Nientiendo> BAM
- [23:28:29] <Derpy> Thus, Google Docs did a really google translation. Mostly because every piece of text in the game is usually composed of a single word
- [23:28:30] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:28:44] <Nientiendo> yes
- [23:28:47] <Nientiendo> but
- [23:28:49] <Nientiendo> seriously
- [23:29:04] <Nientiendo> saying a slime is a lime in the spanish translation?
- [23:29:40] <Derpy> Is that located in the slimeball item tag?
- [23:29:40] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:29:56] <Nientiendo> no
- [23:30:05] <Nientiendo> in the mob name
- [23:30:07] <Nientiendo> the mob egg
- [23:30:11] <Nientiendo> "spawn lime"
- [23:30:43] <Derpy> How would you spell slime in spanish?
- [23:30:43] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:31:05] <Derpy> limo? baba? lodo?
- [23:31:05] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:31:45] <Nientiendo> babosa
- [23:32:00] <Nientiendo> in fact
- [23:32:12] <Nientiendo> turn your minecraft translation into portuguese
- [23:32:16] <Nientiendo> and check all the items
- [23:32:22] <Nientiendo> and you will know what im talking about
- [23:32:22] <Derpy> .. right
- [23:32:23] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:32:32] <Derpy> I'm going to do that right now
- [23:32:33] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:33:15] <Derpy> Have you even bothered reading the small line of text in the bottom of the translation window?
- [23:33:15] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:33:47] <Nientiendo> yes
- [23:33:49] <Nientiendo> but
- [23:33:57] <Nientiendo> do you really think they will develop it?
- [23:34:10] <Nientiendo> look at most of the stuff that jeb promised for this update
- [23:34:14] <Nientiendo> and look what he gave us
- [23:34:28] <Nientiendo> demologic worked so much on the translation so it was perfect
- [23:34:38] <Derpy> 5 translations
- [23:34:39] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:34:45] <Nientiendo> yes
- [23:34:48] <Nientiendo> but
- [23:34:49] <Nientiendo> lets say this
- [23:35:02] <Derpy> Over 20 translations in Minecraft, though they may not be 100% accurate
- [23:35:02] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:35:10] <Nientiendo> more translations with unaccurate results != less translations with accurate results
- [23:35:22] <Nientiendo> you are only basing of the number
- [23:35:29] <Nientiendo> but you arent focusing on the results
- [23:35:52] <Derpy> I'm just checking on the item names right now
- [23:35:52] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:36:44] <Nientiendo> plus
- [23:36:52] <Nientiendo> demologic focused on the most famous languages
- [23:37:06] <Nientiendo> the ones that were most asked for in the community
- [23:37:18] <Nientiendo> i have never seen chineese people that play minecraft or terraria
- [23:37:37] <Derpy> Demologic only thought about the outstanding communities
- [23:37:37] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:37:45] <Derpy> Waaay to go
- [23:37:46] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:38:13] <Nientiendo> has any chineese guy asked for translation
- [23:38:27] <Nientiendo> has any italian guy asked for translation
- [23:38:35] <Nientiendo> they PUT what they ASK for
- [23:38:44] <Nientiendo> and do it right
- [23:38:46] <Nientiendo> not like mojang
- [23:38:49] <Derpy> I just read the item translations in Minecraft
- [23:38:49] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:38:53] <Derpy> They're all fine to me.
- [23:38:53] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:38:58] <Nientiendo> not to me
- [23:39:19] <Derpy> You're sweating on a very tiny error.
- [23:39:19] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:39:30] <Derpy> Now the entire thing is a piece of shit, right?
- [23:39:30] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:39:44] <Nientiendo> no
- [23:39:47] <Nientiendo> im SAYING
- [23:40:00] <Nientiendo> why the fuck do you focus on the number of languages if the translation isnt that accurate?
- [23:40:15] <Derpy> Because the translations are legible and that is what matters.
- [23:40:15] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:40:30] <Nientiendo> its like saying 20 small burgers made out of only beef is better than 5 giant burgers filled with all the ingredients
- [23:41:03] <Derpy> And, how are you completely sure that the Terraria translations were made out of professional translators?
- [23:41:03] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:41:22] <Derpy> I don't see any other credits in the Äbout us page
- [23:41:23] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:42:00] <Nientiendo> maybe it isnt updated
- [23:42:07] <Nientiendo> besides
- [23:42:21] <Nientiendo> how does a machine beat the human being at a thing the human being knows more about
- [23:42:42] <Nientiendo> its like saying a computer can identify the words better than a human
- [23:42:44] <Derpy> The problem is that you have no accurate fact that the translations were made by a human and not a machine
- [23:42:44] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:43:02] <Nientiendo> you know
- [23:43:03] <Nientiendo> lets bet
- [23:43:10] <Nientiendo> when tiy or redigit come
- [23:43:17] <Nientiendo> il ask them who did the translations
- [23:43:20] <Nientiendo> and i will take a pic of it
- [23:43:27] <Nientiendo> since logs can be fakeable
- [23:44:16] <Derpy> Somethiing I don't like about, whenever a game comes up with a new feature you compare it with the other's
- [23:44:16] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:44:43] <Nientiendo> actually
- [23:44:48] <Nientiendo> you did the same thing
- [23:44:53] <Nientiendo> thats why i started the argument
- [23:45:05] <Derpy> Mojang's translations are not 100% accurate but to compensate they added a lot more languages
- [23:45:06] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:45:51] <Nientiendo> you did the same shit the other time we played minecraft
- [23:45:59] <Nientiendo> you said 1.0.0 added a lot of features to the game
- [23:46:18] <Nientiendo> and when you first told me about the 1.1 things (back when i didnt even have it)
- [23:46:26] <Nientiendo> you said that it sucked because of the minor bugs
- [23:46:30] <Derpy> I prefer the game caring about my nationality which is almost never heard about instead of doing accurate translations of the most famous countries and leaving many behind due to users sweating on small errors and complaining how bad some tiny little errors are
- [23:46:31] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:46:31] <Nientiendo> MINECRAFT 1.0.0
- [23:46:35] <Nientiendo> ADDED
- [23:46:42] <Derpy> Read that ^
- [23:46:42] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:46:47] <Nientiendo> uh...DRAGONS AND STRUCTURES
- [23:47:02] <Nientiendo> oh
- [23:47:03] <Nientiendo> ok
- [23:47:05] <Nientiendo> but seriously
- [23:47:16] <Nientiendo> what im about to say dosent have to do with languages
- [23:47:25] <Nientiendo> when we first played mc 1.0.0
- [23:47:33] <Nientiendo> you said it was awesome and that it improved the game alot
- [23:47:39] <Nientiendo> and it had minor features
- [23:48:23] <Derpy> ..and?
- [23:48:23] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:48:40] <Nientiendo> and you said terraria 1.1 sucked becaus your computer didnt render the fps
- [23:48:52] <Nientiendo> and that it sucked so much
- [23:49:06] <Nientiendo> and back then
- [23:49:10] <Nientiendo> i wanted to play terraria
- [23:49:18] <Nientiendo> but you said minecraft was better than that piece of shit
- [23:49:31] <Nientiendo> just because you couldnt render it
- [23:49:32] <Derpy> Actually, big frame rate drops are a major issue
- [23:49:32] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:49:49] <Nientiendo> yeah but you get used to it
- [23:49:57] <Nientiendo> like you got used to minecraft's shitty graphics
- [23:50:38] <Nientiendo> wanna know what i dont like about minecraft?
- [23:50:39] <Nientiendo> ok
- [23:50:41] <Derpy> Saying Minecraft's graphics are retro-styled is a big insult to previous games
- [23:50:42] <Nientiendo> im gonna say it like you did
- [23:50:42] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:50:54] <Nientiendo> hurr durr
- [23:51:00] <Nientiendo> some games had low framerate
- [23:51:11] <Nientiendo> like contra when there was so much shit on the screen
- [23:51:13] <Derpy> go ahead, say what you don't like about mnecraft
- [23:51:13] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:51:15] <Nientiendo> but it was an epic game
- [23:51:18] <Nientiendo> ok
- [23:51:24] <Nientiendo> im gonna say it like you did with terraria
- [23:51:42] <Nientiendo> minecraft is just about breaking a lot of shitty blocks that barely difference from all of them
- [23:52:07] <Nientiendo> your building get destroyed by just a mob that appears
- [23:52:26] <Nientiendo> the enemies are fucking unoriginal
- [23:52:40] <Derpy> 1. Terraria is just about breaking a lot of shitty blocks that are merely recolors from eachother
- [23:52:40] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:52:55] <Derpy> 2. Clowns are build-damaging mobs too
- [23:52:55] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:53:11] <Derpy> 3. Slimes and Wraths are veeery original, right?
- [23:53:12] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:53:36] <Nientiendo> 2. thats when you unlock hardmode and creepers appear when you arent even ready
- [23:53:54] <Nientiendo> 3. oooh, zombies and skeletons arent FUCKING used in anything right?
- [23:54:22] <Derpy> Creepers are what make the game fun. At least they only explode when you are close to them, unlike clowns; which randomly throw bombs around
- [23:54:22] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:54:43] <Nientiendo> and clowns drop bombs when they are onscreen
- [23:54:46] <Nientiendo> wich is pretty close
- [23:54:55] <Derpy> If you have a 800x600 screen yes
- [23:54:56] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:55:05] <Derpy> That is probably the reason you have full framerate
- [23:55:06] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:55:20] <Nientiendo> i play with a 1075x850
- [23:55:28] <Nientiendo> and i can easily just rape a clown with a ranged weapon
- [23:55:43] <Derpy> You can rape a creeper with a bow too.
- [23:55:44] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:55:53] <Nientiendo> yes
- [23:56:01] <Nientiendo> but
- [23:56:09] <Nientiendo> the point is
- [23:56:40] <Nientiendo> if creepers are close you are fucked even if you use a ranged weapon
- [23:56:46] <Nientiendo> like imagine
- [23:56:57] <Nientiendo> aiming a creeper with a bow when he is 4 blocks away
- [23:57:11] <Derpy> You complain Minecraft is too easy; wouldn't Minecraft be a lot easier if creepers weren't there?
- [23:57:11] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:57:25] <Nientiendo> no
- [23:57:35] <Nientiendo> if minecraft is of creativity
- [23:58:03] <Nientiendo> ( i know its of surviving but its also focused on creativity)
- [23:58:03] <Nientiendo> why the fuck are there griefing mobs?
- [23:58:05] <Derpy> Because it adds to the point of defending your build from monsters.
- [23:58:05] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:58:06] <Nientiendo> and terraria is more about combat
- [23:58:37] <Derpy> Do you think it would be fun to have nothing to protect your build from?
- [23:58:37] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [23:59:30] <Nientiendo> do you think its fun to get blown up and attacked by mobs unfairly just because of a glitch?
- [23:59:38] <Nientiendo> i mean
- [23:59:43] <Nientiendo> creepers can spawn RIGHT behind you
- [23:59:55] <Nientiendo> and you die unfairly
- [23:59:58] <Derpy> Monsters only spawn at dark and 25 blocks away from you.
- [23:59:58] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:00:04] <Derpy> get your facts right
- [00:00:05] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:00:23] <Nientiendo> and what if your building is made out of 50 cobbelstone and 1 torch?
- [00:00:26] <Nientiendo> besides
- [00:00:32] <Nientiendo> a creeper is a SUPRISE mob
- [00:00:36] <Nientiendo> like you open the door
- [00:00:46] <Nientiendo> bam your shelter is blown up now you cant survive the night
- [00:01:13] <Nientiendo> because it was unfair
- [00:01:28] <Nientiendo> how would you be able to defend your fort if you got blown up by something by suprise
- [00:01:29] <Derpy> That is why you have to be careful; you can't just go out of your shelter without clearing your path first
- [00:01:29] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:01:45] <Nientiendo> and how the shit do i clear my path before going out of my shelter?
- [00:01:57] <Nientiendo> its like saying i can write on a notebook without opening it
- [00:02:19] <Derpy> You could always dig a small hole in your shelter and hit the creeper from the legs
- [00:02:20] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:02:28] <Derpy> Stop making a big deal of it
- [00:02:28] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:02:32] <Nientiendo> but what if i dont notice the creeper
- [00:02:37] <Nientiendo> what you are saying
- [00:02:42] <Derpy> Then that is your fault for not being careful
- [00:02:43] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:02:43] <Nientiendo> is that i saw the creeper is behind the wall
- [00:03:03] <Derpy> What is Minecraft without surprises? Have you ever thought of that before?
- [00:03:03] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:03:12] <Derpy> And please remove your away message, it is pestering me
- [00:03:12] Nientiendo is away: Estoy ocupado
- [00:03:19] <Nientiendo> actually
- [00:03:20] <Nientiendo> no
- [00:03:37] <Nientiendo> dude
- [00:03:45] <Nientiendo> if you fight i will fight back
- [00:03:50] <Nientiendo> and if i fight you will fight back
- [00:03:53] <Nientiendo> its just a cycle
- [00:03:56] <Nientiendo> lets just stop this
- [00:04:05] <Derpy> How is that even close to be related with what I just said?
- [00:04:06] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:04:16] <Derpy> And how am I a hypocrite?
- [00:04:16] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:04:27] <Nientiendo> look
- [00:04:31] <Derpy> You're not making a point rather than insult the game without a reason
- [00:04:31] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:04:45] <Nientiendo> you too
- [00:04:46] <Nientiendo> like
- [00:04:50] <Nientiendo> you say you cant prevent a clown
- [00:05:00] <Nientiendo> its your fault that he dropped a bomb and you killed it too late
- [00:05:05] <Derpy> You can't, the clown spawns in lit areas too
- [00:05:05] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:05:26] <Nientiendo> yes but
- [00:05:38] <Nientiendo> what if you encounter it outside
- [00:05:42] <Nientiendo> you go and kill it
- [00:05:46] <Nientiendo> if you dont kill it
- [00:05:50] <Nientiendo> you are fucked
- [00:06:01] <Nientiendo> its the same thing with the creeper
- [00:06:24] <Derpy> Wow, you were talking about how bad creepers were and now you're defending it
- [00:06:24] <Nientiendo> you are saying
- [00:06:25] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:06:31] <Nientiendo> no
- [00:06:33] <Nientiendo> im saying
- [00:06:37] <Nientiendo> you are defending your thing
- [00:06:44] <Nientiendo> and then attacking my thing when its the same thing
- [00:07:05] <Derpy> I'm not attacking you. I'm just replying to your statement.
- [00:07:05] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:07:09] <Derpy> [23:21:54] <Nientiendo> mojang's translation looks like a fucking google translator did it
- [00:07:09] Nientiendo is away: derpy is a hypocrite
- [00:07:19] <Nientiendo> you know what
- [00:07:22] <Nientiendo> fuck this argument
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