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  1. Dec 28 14:33:57 <droc> I really wish the Wikia had a gender option that was neutral, but noooooo, only binary.
  2. Dec 28 14:33:59 <Decibelle> the dreams dont do anything in the real world, but correlate to stuff that happened/is happening in the real world
  3. Dec 28 14:34:05 <Dr_Frank> <3
  4. Dec 28 14:34:08 <Decibelle> droc: i feel u
  5. Dec 28 14:34:22 <droc> like wikidot can u not
  6. Dec 28 14:34:33 <Smapti> …There are only two genders.
  7. Dec 28 14:34:39 <Dr_Frank> Too many gender-unspecific people!
  8. Dec 28 14:34:42 <AntlerContext> .tell kaktus Sunny drew your 715 rewrite, just in case you didn't know. It's fucking amazing.
  9. Dec 28 14:34:43 <Alexandra> AntlerContext: I'll pass that along.
  10. Dec 28 14:34:44 <Dr_Frank> HALP!
  11. Dec 28 14:34:47 <Riemann> Oh hell no
  12. Dec 28 14:34:50 <Riemann> This is not happening
  13. Dec 28 14:34:51 <droc> Then there are mixes of the two, or people who are not gendered.
  14. Dec 28 14:35:18 <Tagliafierro> Smapti: Sexes
  15. Dec 28 14:35:25 <Dr_Frank> Pansexuals are sexually attracted to all genders
  16. Dec 28 14:35:28 <Tagliafierro> Or am I confusing…
  17. Dec 28 14:35:29 <Tagliafierro> No
  18. Dec 28 14:35:31 <Dr_Frank> Even ones without a sex
  19. Dec 28 14:35:42 <droc> Even sexes aren't black n white.
  20. Dec 28 14:35:42 <Armstrong> There are two biological genders. Male and female.
  21. Dec 28 14:35:42 <Tagliafierro> Those are sexual orientations
  22. Dec 28 14:35:42 <Smapti> You can call yourself whatever you want and live in any way you want, but you are biologically one of two things.
  23. Dec 28 14:35:45 <AntlerContext> I'm pansexual, hooray for me!
  24. Dec 28 14:35:46 <droc> People can have no genetalia, people can have both.
  25. Dec 28 14:35:53 <Tagliafierro> I was confused with sexual orientations
  26. Dec 28 14:35:54 <Dr_Frank> Really?
  27. Dec 28 14:35:55 <Smapti> Except in certain very rare cases.
  28. Dec 28 14:35:57 <droc> Yeah.
  29. Dec 28 14:36:07 <droc> No, it's not that rare.
  30. Dec 28 14:36:07 <TheeDarkAges> me/ rubs eyes and sighs
  31. Dec 28 14:36:16 * TheeDarkAges rubs eyes and sighs
  32. Dec 28 14:36:21 <Dr_Frank> What about gays?
  33. Dec 28 14:36:27 <Dr_Frank> Is anyone here gay?
  34. Dec 28 14:36:29 <droc> Intersex people are generally just operated on, or told they are a boy or a girl.
  35. Dec 28 14:36:31 <Dr_Frank> We had asexuals
  36. Dec 28 14:36:34 <Smapti> If you have a Y chromosome, you're male. If you don't, you're female.
  37. Dec 28 14:36:34 <Dr_Frank> Pansexuals
  38. Dec 28 14:36:40 <Smapti> The exceptions are few and far between.
  39. Dec 28 14:36:45 * Djoric (~chatzilla@synIRC-DA2ECD80.zoominternet.net) has left
  40. Dec 28 14:36:54 <droc> No, they just aren't brought up.
  41. Dec 28 14:36:57 <Dr_Frank> Heck we got fucking cisssexuals
  42. Dec 28 14:37:11 <Tagliafierro> But I am cissexual :c
  43. Dec 28 14:37:11 <Armstrong> Smapti is right. The only accepted biological exception to the binary rule is hermaphroditism.
  44. Dec 28 14:37:14 <droc> Frank no matter where you go, you will have cis people out the ass
  45. Dec 28 14:37:24 <Dr_Frank> XD
  46. Dec 28 14:37:26 <Tagliafierro> :c
  47. Dec 28 14:37:33 <droc> And what if I have no sexual organs? What would that make me?
  48. Dec 28 14:37:36 <droc> Neither.
  49. Dec 28 14:37:37 <Tagliafierro> Pls stop cis-shaming
  50. Dec 28 14:37:42 <Smapti> Droc, what chromosomes do you have?
  51. Dec 28 14:37:44 <Dr_Frank> SCP-173
  52. Dec 28 14:37:45 <Alexandra> Dr_Frank: SCP-173 (The Sculpture - The Original, Written by Moto42, Rating:+1382) - http://scp-wiki.net/scp-173
  53. Dec 28 14:37:55 <droc> Is that your business?
  54. Dec 28 14:37:57 <Dr_Frank> is Alexandra God?
  55. Dec 28 14:38:00 <Vince> something tells me very few of the people in the room have actually picked up a book on gender or sexual identity or orientation
  56. Dec 28 14:38:05 <Smapti> It is if you're asking me to define your gender.
  57. Dec 28 14:38:06 <Dr_Frank> I have
  58. Dec 28 14:38:07 <Vince> …
  59. Dec 28 14:38:13 <Vince> That was the wrong window
  60. Dec 28 14:38:22 <droc> You don't define my gender. I identifyy my gender.
  61. Dec 28 14:38:27 <Smapti> …No.
  62. Dec 28 14:38:32 <Tagliafierro> Smapti: did you know turkeys had WW and ZW chromosomes?
  63. Dec 28 14:38:32 <Armstrong> droc: That would make you a male or a female depending on your chromosome. This is your biological gender.
  64. Dec 28 14:38:32 <droc> Actually, yes.
  65. Dec 28 14:38:34 <Smapti> /Biology// defines your gender.
  66. Dec 28 14:38:38 <Dr_Frank> Stop it people
  67. Dec 28 14:38:42 <ProcyonLotor> sex and gender are not the same thing
  68. Dec 28 14:38:43 <Smapti> You don't get to veto the laws of science.
  69. Dec 28 14:38:45 <Dr_Frank> Let's all get together
  70. Dec 28 14:38:47 <ProcyonLotor> most of the time, they correlate
  71. Dec 28 14:38:55 <Dr_Frank> And appreciate love
  72. Dec 28 14:39:01 <droc> Gender=/=Sex organs.
  73. Dec 28 14:39:01 <Armstrong> Biological Gender =/= Identification.
  74. Dec 28 14:39:08 <Dr_Frank> Which does not chemically exist
  75. Dec 28 14:39:13 <ProcyonLotor> sex is biological, gender is societal/cultural
  76. Dec 28 14:39:28 <Dr_Frank> Please
  77. Dec 28 14:39:35 <Dr_Frank> Why are we discussing this?
  78. Dec 28 14:39:45 <Smapti> I don't know.
  79. Dec 28 14:39:46 <Armstrong> I think it's a valid topic.
  80. Dec 28 14:39:47 <Smapti> That's why.
  81. Dec 28 14:39:47 <Dr_Frank> People like to fuck different people
  82. Dec 28 14:39:49 <Tagliafierro> Because people talked about it
  83. Dec 28 14:39:52 <Dr_Frank> People sometimes can't
  84. Dec 28 14:39:58 <Dr_Frank> Or don't want to
  85. Dec 28 14:40:02 <droc> ^^
  86. Dec 28 14:40:03 <Dr_Frank> Or prefer other people
  87. Dec 28 14:40:04 <Dr_Frank> Done
  88. Dec 28 14:40:05 <Smapti> Who people fuck has fuck-all to do with what they are.
  89. Dec 28 14:40:06 <Dr_Frank> That's it
  90. Dec 28 14:40:12 <Dr_Frank> Ik
  91. Dec 28 14:40:16 <Riemann> So if no one really wants to talk about this
  92. Dec 28 14:40:17 <Dr_Frank> Sorry
  93. Dec 28 14:40:21 <Dr_Frank> Guys
  94. Dec 28 14:40:24 <Riemann> Let's just mooooooove on
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