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- [size=large][b][color=#c0392b][u]Read Only![/u] Please do not post in this thread!
- It will land in the Garbage section!
- Because this is about the overview!
- Please go here for any kind of questions/requests/reports/discussion/tutorials -> [/color][/b][/size][size=medium][b][color=#c0392b][url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345324]THREAD[/url][/color][/b][/size]
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- [u][size=x-large][b][color=#f39c12]Jump direct to the List[/color][/b][/size][/u][size=x-large][b][color=#f39c12] -> [/color][/b][/size][u][size=x-large][b][url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2867124#pid2867124][color=#2980b9]CLICK[/color][/url][/b][/size][/u]
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- [color=#c0392b][size=large][b]NOTE:
- Most images posted here in thread are not the original/highest quality source content!
- Avoid using the images posted here in thread!
- [u]Use the images direct from the KyraDB - this is also the KyraDB API database content!
- In every post of every movie there is a link set to it![/u][/b][/size][/color]
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- [color=#8e44ad][size=medium]This is a project initiated by @"rschiks" and me!
- Both we are huge artwork fans, but more to say our specialty or [b]passion are Artwork Types that are "semi- or non-official" by Kodi[/b]
- We want to show new ways and concepts how to make other kinds of images and artwork available/showable in Kodi.[/size][/color]
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- [size=small][b]Short retrospective on Artwork Types[/b] (I am only talking about movies now) -> also look here: [url]https://kodi.wiki/view/Movie_artwork[/url][/size]
- [size=x-small]Kodi Standard: [b]Poster, Fanart[/b] (API source FANART.TV or TMDB) [b]+Actorthumbs[/b] (not really an Artwork Type, but supported by Kodi Standard)
- Kodi Extended: [b]Clearlogo, Clearart, Banner, Landscape, Discart[/b] (API source FANART.TV) [b]Extrafanart[/b], [b]Keyart[/b] (API source FANART.TV or TMDB)[/size]
- [b][size=small]Short retrospective on Semi- or Non-Official Artwork Types[/size][/b]
- [size=x-small]GIF: [b]AnimatedPoster, AnimatedFanart[/b]
- Member @"rschiks" is since a long time part of the "Animated Kodi Project", and most recently [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=215727]Animated Poster[/url] and [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345028]Animated Fanart[/url] are also available through the [url=https://www.kyradb.com/]KyraDB[/url] API, and have also been implemented by [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=258886&pid=2866420#pid2866420]Artwork Beef[/url] & [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=142723&pid=2863872#pid2863872]Media Managers[/url].
- PNG: [b]Characterart for Movies/Moviesets[/b]
- Characterart for TvShows has long been established in FANART.TV, but unfortunately, there was no interest in implementing it for movies as well, which is why i started the [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=342468]Characterart for Movies/Moviesets[/url] Project.
- Project gets @"rschiks" interest and very quickly he included them in his [url=https://www.kyradb.com/]KyraDB[/url] database and are also available via API. Quick after it was also implemented in [url=http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=258886&pid=2866420#pid2866420]Artwork Beef[/url].
- PNG: [b]Actress PNG's resource addon[/b]
- It's not an Artwork Type by itself, it's a resource addon to show artwork. The [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=342408]Actresses PNG's resource addon[/url] become quick very popular and got also a greenlight for the [url=https://kodi.tv/addon/image-collections/actress-pngs-resource-addon]Official Kodi Repository[/url].
- It got also API impementation by [url=https://www.kyradb.com/]KyraDB[/url], but currently without usable use, it is intended for the future.
- JPG: [b]Movie Director Thumbs resource addon[/b]
- Also not an Artwork Type by itself, it's a resource addon to show director thumbs in the directors container in movies like the actors in the actors container.
- The [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?pid=2842393#pid2842393]Movie Director Thumbs resource addon[/url] is experimental and only for Kodi nerdists. I hope there will be an add-on with auto-download and cache function in the future, or even better a Kodi core implementation that makes this addon obsolete.
- @"rschiks" helped me a lot this project writing a API script to get all the content in batch. Great thanks!
- [b]Also to mention there are more Artwork Projects like [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=306980]Animated Albums[/url] or [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=343449]3D Album Artwork[/url] out there... hope they getting more attention in future![/b][/size]
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- [color=#2980b9][b][size=large]What is the project about?[/size][/b][/color]
- It's about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_poster#Character_posters
- [img]https://i.ibb.co/C0cM41q/Screenshot-22.png[/img]
- [video=youtube]https://youtu.be/fy_vBKz_T4U[/video]
- [size=x-small](considering the patience of the audience, the video is 300% speed)[/size]
- [size=small]___[/size]
- [color=#2980b9][b][size=large]For what is it?[/size][/b][/color]
- Like all other artwork only for eyecandy and bling bling!
- To make you curious about a movie and make you want to watch it, or to impress your friends who only know the Amazon Prime/Netflix UI.
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]What is the difference between a Character poster compared to a usual other poster.[/b][/size][/color]
- [b]A "usual" normal poster is unique in design and layout.
- In contrary a Character poster/Extraposter has in count at least 2 or 3 posters from movie advertising campaigns with some kind of uniform in design and structure.[/b]
- A maximum doesn't exist, highest character poster count ever saw was "Avengers: Endgame (2019)" with 32 uniform character posters.
- Minimum count are 2 uniform character posters, several out there...
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]There already are on several Movies Character poster on TMDB [/b][b]available[/b][b], why we need a project for that?[/b][/size][/color]
- Yes, but there is all mixed together! And if you use the ArtworkBeef multiposter download function you will also get [b]all random mixed[/b].
- Here [b]the goal is[/b], with a push of a button to get all the Character posters/Extraposters [b]that belong together[/b] from an advertising campaign of a movie.
- Everything is pre-sorted and in an order.
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- [color=#2980b9][b][size=large]Where there location of the Database and API will be?[/size][/b][/color]
- Here: https://www.kyradb.com/
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]How large the "Database Starter Pack" will be?[/b][/size][/color]
- about 250 most known AAA Movies
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]In how much Movies in my library i well get Character poster results?[/b][/size][/color]
- This depends on which and how many movies you have.
- Do you have a large database of many old movies, independent productions or fan movies then around 15%.
- Do you have more blockbuster movies or new movies (after the year 2000) then from about a third to half of your database.
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]How and where the Character poster will be stored and named?[/b][/size][/color]
- [color=#c0392b][b]General, this project can only be used if you use local artwork! [/b][/color][b]The same way how multiposter is now working in ArtworkBeef![/b]
- For example when your movies are in folders and your main poster is simple called poster.jpg, then use for character posters "poster1.jpg", "poster2.jpg" and so on -> without moviefilename prefix.
- If your movies are in folders and your main poster is called Moviefilename-poster.jpg, then use for character posters poster "Moviefilename-poster1.jpg" and so on -> with moviefilename prefix.
- If in folders, both is supported and possible, but choose and make all the same, not a convention mixup.
- If not in folders but all in a row, then you have to use -> with moviefilename prefix.
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- [color=#2980b9][b][size=large]Needs this Skin support?[/size][/b][/color]
- Yes
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]Which skins have integrated this?[/b][/size][/color]
- Since this is completely new,[s] [b]none yet! [/b][/s][b] [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345324&pid=2922512#pid2922512]look here![/url][/b]
- A basic requirement for a Skinner is that it has a benefit for the "general audience" and not just for nerds.
- For this we need a [b]database[/b], access via [b]API[/b], [b]Skin support[/b], and a [b]software that feeds[/b] in (addon like ArtworkBeef or MediaManager)
- [b]We are working on it![/b]
- I have implemented this in my skin on my own and made a few months a case study how and how good it's working!
- Working nice! Until Skinner decides to implement it, i will provide tutorials and guides. (In another thread)
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]For which Poster language is it intended?[/b][/size][/color]
- At first only for English international (UK+US)
- @"rschiks" will maybe add, but for at first hidden language tag, and only if enough interest more languages will be added.
- The most i discovered are in english, but also discovered several in german, spanish and chinese.
- I will make and exception with on purpose english mixed with another language posters for example for "The Great Wall (2016)"
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- [size=large][color=#2980b9][b]What is if a movie have more than 1 Character Poster sets?[/b][/color][/size]
- Yes, that's a very good question! I discovered several Movies have that! First, we will maybe only make one available. But it is "pre-designed" to be able to select from 2 or more sets.
- It still first needs to be clarified in the case of an integration (e.g. Artwork Beef) how that would be technically solvable.
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]From where you get the sources?[/b][/size][/color]
- Primary from http://www.impawards.com
- Secondary from http://www.posterdb.de and https://www.themoviedb.org or simple Google Search
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]I discovered a nice Character Poster set not yet in KyraDB or posted here, can i request it?[/b][/size][/color]
- Yes, here -> [size=medium][u][b][url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345324][color=#e67e22]CLICK[/color][/url][/b][/u][/size]
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]Any more features to mention?[/b][/size][/color]
- Yes, there will be a [b]sort sequence of character posters in the sets[/b]. Why?
- When you use it in Skin as multiimage in random order then it does not matter.
- But you can use it also as integer (until 9 poster) and that is very convenient for many poster sets.
- For [b]example [/b]on a Purge movie the red front letters in the posters give only in the right sort order the word "P U R G E"
- Or other [b]example [/b]the Oceans Eight movie the characters are numbered from 1-8
- Lot examples more...
- [b]As fallback the order will be the cast/character order from TMDB without exception![/b]
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- [color=#2980b9][size=large][b]Are there "any kind of conventions" or quality aspects to get added to KyraDB?[/b][/size][/color]
- [list]
- [*]It should be a [b]character poster[/b] (consistent and uniform in (art)design and layout)
- [*]At first [b]english [/b]only
- [*]Sets can have different resolution and aspect ratio, but the posters in a set always have the same resolution and aspect ratio.
- [*]Cause a lot skins in a lot views are showing the poster in stretched mode it should also still look good in stretched mode... cause this:
- [*][b]I will not add ultrawide stretched portrait posters[/b] looks like standing banners, it will not look good in skin! I have no idea why that is so modern now. -> [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2870793#pid2870793]example[/url]
- [*]I will also not add square posters -> [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2921883#pid2921883]example[/url]
- [/list]
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- [u][color=#f39c12][size=x-large][b]MILESTONES:[/b][/size][/color][/u]
- [list]
- [*]Setup a thread, concept, showcase and a content list and character poster set content under continuous maintenance.
- [*]Make content available in KyraDB website and over the KyraDB API under continuous maintenance.
- [*]Implementation in a order sequence.
- [*]If possible, multi poster set implementation if more then 1 character poster set available.
- [*]Hope that it gains interest and Artwork and Meta-data provider (.e.g. Artwork Beef, MediaManagers) and also Skins will implement it.
- [/list]
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- [u][color=#c0392b][size=large][b]This are only examples is why the character poster sets are careful sorted and would be also useful when run in integer mode in skin:[/b][/size][/color][/u]
- [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2867202#pid2867202]Alice Through the Looking Glass (2016)[/url] -> connected wall view
- [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2867795#pid2867795]Allegiant (2016)[/url] -> ascending percent
- [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2868321#pid2868321]Green Lantern (2011)[/url] -> connected tagline that only makes sense in the right order
- [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2868847#pid2868847]Ocean's Eight (2018)[/url] -> ascending numbering
- [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2867794#pid2867794]Insurgent (2015)[/url] -> letters that only make a word in the right order
- [url=https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=345299&pid=2867863#pid2867863]The Hunger Games (2012)[/url] -> numbering of districts ascending
- ...and a lot more!
- [img]https://i.ibb.co/LJ7PsVq/Unbenannt-1.jpg[/img]
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