ExoYesterday at 10:51 PM
what did we ninja loot?

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:52 PM
some bracers I think, you gave them to tanks when some pug won them, but it was more the way you had kissy and kellogg bend the need/greed system so you could just "give" it to them

ExoYesterday at 10:52 PM
the loot system is ms + 1 since last week, there wont be any confusion about that
that problem came up because of the need / greed thing, but it was still ms > os and there were no other prot warriors there

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:53 PM
yeah my point here is that you can't give maintank prio in pug

ExoYesterday at 10:53 PM
so we just gave it to the prot warriors becuase of that, it didnt have anything to do with the greed thing
no prio, just ms prio
we had a prot warrior in onyxia yday
other than our own
he rolled on the wrath helm
was np, he didnt win but was allowed to roll since he was prot
so i dont think this counts as ninja looting as long as we had all 3 prot warriors, that case particularly
but with ms + 1 system and ms > os its very clear and I dont think there will ever be issues

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:54 PM
that warrior was still rolling for his dps spec as his main spec

ExoYesterday at 10:54 PM
its what most ppl use
which warrior?

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:55 PM
what you suggested is Prot > Dps > Offspec, which is just wrong, the dps has as much of a right to the loot as the tanks does

ExoYesterday at 10:55 PM
so, what we use now
is ms + 1 and ms > os
if u get an item you have +1, obviously for ms
you know how it goes i imagine
if we have random tanks they are free to roll as well

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:56 PM
doesn't matter, this is another point really, you can't see anything wrong with what I'm saying, even tho I clearly said I have a problem with it

ExoYesterday at 10:57 PM
what im saying dodgy situations won't appear
that cannot be fixed
the loot system is very straight forward with MS +1  and ms > os

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:57 PM
the fact you handled a dodgy situation by basically ninja'ing is what irked me

ExoYesterday at 10:57 PM
mostly all raids are using this that are using randoms+semi guild
I don't consider it as ninja because it was still their main spec
if we had another prot warrior there
and he wasnt allowed to take it
it would have been a ninja loot yes

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:58 PM
you're literally not listing to me

ExoYesterday at 10:58 PM
well how was it a ninja if no1 else's main spec was prot

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:58 PM
a DPS warrior should have the same prio as a tank warrior in a pug

ExoYesterday at 10:58 PM
oh you mean this, no we won't do this
a tank will not be able to roll on a dps warrior gear

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:59 PM
exactly, and that was a huge problem for me

ExoYesterday at 10:59 PM
or vice versa
why is this a problem for you though?

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:59 PM
because I think it's just ninjaing

ExoYesterday at 10:59 PM
but why is it ninjaing if its not their main spec
this is what I dont understand
you basically say you have a problem with main spec priority

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 10:59 PM
but it is their main spec, the t2 set is good for dps and prot

ExoYesterday at 10:59 PM
and that I as a dps priest should just take healing gear off people
its t1

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:00 PM
yeah t1
but I dont care about the actual loot for the actual warrior

ExoYesterday at 11:00 PM
I dont think we're talking about the same thing
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=16861/bracers-of-might
Wowhead
Bracers of Might
This epic plate armor of item level 66 goes in the "Wrist" slot. Requires Warrior. It is looted from Flamewaker. Added in Classic World of Warcraft.

the might set bonuses are tanking exclusively
take a look

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:01 PM
I care about my leader being willing to twist the wording
of MS > OS

ExoYesterday at 11:01 PM
I think you're jumping to conclusions and you should give it a bit more time before you make your mind up, honestly

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:01 PM
that guy wouldn't have rolled MS if he didn't think it was for his MS

ExoYesterday at 11:01 PM
well take a look at the might set
i linked you
I got what you said, but look at what I'm saying also
it is just prot based bonuses, all 3 of them

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:02 PM
exo please, I dont care about the loot, this is about you, and how you're willing to do immoral things on a whim

ExoYesterday at 11:02 PM
how is it immoral if its their main spec?
this is I think where we dont agree
I am saying the might set is designed for tanks
and that we had no other tanks

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:03 PM
I think it's immoral to advertise MS > OS and the give tank prio over dps

ExoYesterday at 11:03 PM
but there wasn't "prio"

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:03 PM
you could have said "it's tank prio btw" all those warriors who joined deserved to know that they're basically NOT getting any T1 this run

ExoYesterday at 11:03 PM
there was only prot prio
prot warriors will not roll on fury/arms dps gear
if the dps warrs dont need
and vice versa
but as I said
this issue is no longer an issue with ms + 1
last time we even told the 2 fury warriors specifically about it, that might is considered prot main spec as well

Søren (Kold)Yesterday at 11:05 PM
doesnt matter, the fact you're sat here defending it is just another red flag for me