<Smaug>	Kereb, how wilt thou celebrate the fourth of july
<Kereb>	already did
<Red_Dawn>	Do they even have a fourth of July in Canada?
<Kereb>	no, we have a first of july
<Kereb>	however
<Kereb>	the fourth of july is important too
<Kereb>	because it is my birthday
<Red_Dawn>	It was a joke, of course. Technically there is a fourth of July everywhere because "July 4" is a date on a calendar.
<Kereb>	not every year
<Red_Dawn>	Why not every year?
<Red_Dawn>	Do some years skip it?
<Kereb>	yeah
<Kereb>	we have to keep adding and removing days from the year all over the place
<Kereb>	(as is tradition)
<Kereb>	on account of the earth's wobble being more severe way up in these latitudes
<Red_Dawn>	Really? Never heard that before.
<Kereb>	well it's true
<Kereb>	february was like eighty days long this year
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<Red_Dawn>	Weird
<Red_Dawn>	Got any links describing that phenomenon?
<Kereb>	uh yeah hold on
<Smaug>	:)
<Red_Dawn>	I see no mention of it on wikipedia.
<Kereb>	oh well why don't we all just believe everything we read in LIEpedia
<Smaug>	wikipedia tends to be patchy in certain subjects
<Smaug>	calendar stuff is one of those subjects
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<Red_Dawn>	I see then. Do any other countries do this besides Canada?
<DD>	doesn't Russia?
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<Red_Dawn>	Maybe Cascadia in the DTS setting should do that, since it includes much of British Columbia. Although the bulk of the population in that Canadian territory lives near Vancover anyway so I don't imagine it would make much of a difference.
<Red_Dawn>	If the unmodified calender works for Seattle, it would work just as well a hundred miles north.
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<Smaug_>	does Kereb live in Cascadia
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<Zayk>	Eddy, are you actually buying this???
<Smaug>	Red_Dawn: it would probably linger as a cultural thing
<Smaug>	although in Cascadia I assume that Canadian culture would be fashionable
<Smaug>	so they might adopt it
<Red_Dawn>	If he lives in Vancouver, then he would also live in Cascadia in the DTS setting.
<Kereb>	well
<Kereb>	in real life, the Cascadian region on both sides of the border is a little itchy about Vancouverites
<Kereb>	I had to get cavity searched just to go on a trip to Kelowna last year
<Red_Dawn>	Why?
<Kereb>	cause I was entering the Cascadia region
<Kereb>	you have to go through customs
<Kereb>	technically Her Majesty doesn't have any power between Mission and the Alberta border
<Zayk>	Eddy, a day is one rotation of the sun. Do you honestly believe that the sun moves faster in Canada?
<Kereb>	and if I remember right, the RCMP can't even enter there since the British North America act was passed
<Kereb>	which was '82 I think
<Red_Dawn>	I thought Cascadia mostly encompassed the West Coast moreso than the interior (at least in terms of the political and cultural aspects of its supporters).
<Kereb>	well no, look up the "cascade range" of mountains. It's inland somewhat.
<Kereb>	and it's precisely because the mountains are basically impassible that the region is largely politically autonomous
<Red_Dawn>	So why isn't Vancouver considered fully part of Cascadia?
<Kereb>	well, because the cascadians reject us
<Kereb>	they believe that urban centers are decadent and weak ... that urbanites will not survive the coming apocalypse
<Kereb>	the Cascadians see their mission as uh
<Kereb>	oh what do they call it again
<Kereb>	they want to "catalyse" the end of urban civilisation
<Red_Dawn>	That doesn't sound much like the Cascadia concept I've always heard.
<Kereb>	well jesus eddy have you even BEEN there
<Kereb>	i swear i told you about the Merrit Mountain Music Festival
<Kereb>	remember I was telling you about the combo of hippies and rednecks up in our woods?
<Kereb>	imagine country music but with all the apocalyptic message and drug use of reggae
<Kereb>	so yeah they don't want you bringing certain things in
<Red_Dawn>	So the Cascadian movement is more associated with that than the urban coastal left?
<Kereb>	food, live animals, religious or anti-religious paraphernalia, depictions of the queen, ANYthing in an east asian language
<Kereb>	but of course once you're through customs, the place is like Mad Max with snow
<Kereb>	beautiful scenery, though
<Kereb>	it's worth it for the mountains
<Red_Dawn>	I suppose that means I will need a different name for the con-country. Perhaps "Pacifica" as Rainer originally suggested or the "Northwest American Republic" or something.
<Kereb>	well or you could have the Prophecy actually come true
<Kereb>	up in the interior there they pretty much think it's inevitable that urban life will implode
<Kereb>	AND/OR
<Kereb>	the Big Earthquake we're always preparing for will make the coast cave in to the sea
<Kereb>	and then Cascadia will BE the new coast
<Red_Dawn>	Sounds like there's room for a lot of conflict between the urban coast and the interior.
<Kereb>	oh yeah
<Kereb>	oh my god yes
<Red_Dawn>	As a story-telling element.
<Kereb>	you have NO idea
<Kereb>	I mean, it's not as bad as it was
<Kereb>	back in the 80s it was worse
<Kereb>	under Mulroney
<DD>	IT WILL BE AN ISLAND IN THE NOT-SUN!
<Kereb>	the folks up in the interior were trying to 'take back' the lower mainland
<Kereb>	that's when all the security and customs infrastructure really came about
<Kereb>	the checkpoints and what not
<Kereb>	but since those days -- The Troubles, we called it -- Cascadia has pretty much washed their hands of us
<Kereb>	which mostly had to do with the so-called 'Asian Invasion'
<Kereb>	back when Hong Kong went back to China, we got a huge wave of immigration here cause Hong Kongers were afraid of having to live under the Chinese government
<Kereb>	and *our* rednecks are
<Kereb>	well
<Kereb>	they're racist?
<Kereb>	but not in the same way YOUR rednecks are racist.
<Kereb>	I mean, they love black people.