[23:08:25] [bloop] you're talking like a post-modernist, Skipper [23:08:38] [bloop] this is how far that cancer has spread [23:08:55] [bloop] let me recommend a book [23:09:19] [Skipper] what is a post-modernist? [23:09:53] [bloop] it's an intellectual movement follow modernism which relativizes pretty much every thing [23:09:57] [bloop] following [23:10:36] [Skipper] what is modernism? [23:10:45] [Bloodknight] thats social evolution you are talking about, its a real think you know :p [23:12:25] [Skipper] most modern logic follows aristotelean principles and the law of excluded middle [23:12:44] [Skipper] in reality things can have a third ir even fourth truth value [23:12:54] [Skipper] something can be indeterminate [23:12:59] [Skipper] or both true and false [23:13:13] [Skipper] as well as true or false [23:13:22] [Skipper] depending on your perspective [23:13:52] [Skipper] take the statement 'it is raining' for example [23:13:59] bloop [curtis@162.231.134.145] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 121 seconds [23:14:12] [Skipper] if a drop of rain hits you maybe you might say it is raining [23:14:24] [Skipper] but what about when drops are not hitting you? [23:14:44] [Skipper] or for example when it just starts to rain, or just finishes [23:14:56] [Skipper] at these times it can be both raining and not raining