[19:24] Omari P: pokemon is really gonna release every single mon and then call it dlc isnt it huh
[19:24] ZappernoZappin: Lmao
[19:24] Best Teambuilder: Right cause he uses weezing
[19:24] godlywalrus: yup
[19:24] real pheal spheal: the thing with flinch vs clef is you actually have to stay in vs clef
[19:24] ZappernoZappin: At least we will get all the mons lma
[19:24] +Forresterr: the mons are technically free
[19:24] ZappernoZappin: lmao*
[19:24] Accountstolenagain: Discharge or Thunderbolt hits hard too
[19:24] real pheal spheal: to get that flinch
[19:24] @power: yeah but its good for the last mon scenario
[19:24] Omari P: I know this is game for literal 5 year olds
[19:24] Omari P: but even so
[19:24] Omari P: that shit is evil
[19:24] Accountstolenagain: Probably harder
[19:24] @power: real pheal spheal
[19:24] real pheal spheal: that's fair
[19:24] Best Teambuilder: I see
[19:25] @power: the midground with ttar is sick too
[19:25] real pheal spheal: wait is ttar a mon again
[19:25] ShootingStarmie☯: yes
[19:25] ZappernoZappin: I wish the newest pokemon had gamemodes so ingame could be harder
[19:25] @power: yeah ttar is super popular rn
[19:25] ShootingStarmie☯: getting tonnes of usage in olt
[19:25] Best Teambuilder: Get ready for lando omari
[19:25] real pheal spheal: last time i played ou ttar was the resident memekyu
[19:25] @power: spdef tar is v good rn
[19:25] ShootingStarmie☯: usually a spdef set
[19:25] Omari P: it is not good lol
[19:25] Omari P: idk about that power
[19:25] Best Teambuilder: Thing is going to be everywhere
[19:25] ZappernoZappin: What?
[19:25] ShootingStarmie☯: yes it is... lol
[19:25] ShootingStarmie☯: being used by players in olt
[19:25] Omari P: olt players =/= good
[19:26] ShootingStarmie☯: lol...
[19:26] Omari P: sick of that propaganda
[19:26] Omari P: and dick riding
[19:26] ZappernoZappin: It's rly good cause it covers for it's teams likely fire weakness
[19:26] ShootingStarmie☯: what measurement u use
[19:26] Accountstolenagain: What does Olt even mean?
[19:26] Omari P: not that
[19:26] Omari P: and I’m appalled that you really tried to pull that on ME
[19:26] kisian: official ladder tournament
[19:26] Best Teambuilder: Official ladder tournamenr
[19:26] ShootingStarmie☯: how the hell is it dick riding, what can you classify as good if not an offical tournament
[19:26] ThePsychoBear: Man, why is Dragapult so comically fast
[19:26] eeekum bokum: why dont you qualify for olt omari p
[19:26] Accountstolenagain: Sounds like sweaty try hards
[19:26] Omari P: why woudl. ido that
[19:26] Omari P: it's a waste of time
[19:26] %gomikyu: shit someone already got eekum bokum
[19:27] real pheal spheal: omari p no, it isn't!
[19:27] ShootingStarmie☯: omari, how do u classify good then
[19:27] eeekum bokum: its 3 e's
[19:27] ShootingStarmie☯: if not a smogon tour
[19:27] real pheal spheal: it gives you epeen flex points
[19:27] %gomikyu: sad
[19:27] eeekum bokum: i didnt get the real one :/
[19:27] real pheal spheal: 5 epeen flex points to be exact
[19:27] kisian: bad player=shitter, good player=tryhard
[19:27] ZappernoZappin: lmao
[19:27] eeekum bokum: i also couldnt get gawr gura in time
[19:27] eeekum bokum: very sad
[19:27] ZappernoZappin: If you want to not get made fun of, be a mediocre player!
[19:27] Accountstolenagain: Most of the people use other peoples teams anyways
[19:27] Omari P: ShootingStarmie☯ in what contexzt
[19:27] Omari P: good on ladder
[19:28] Omari P: is not good in tour
[19:28] ZappernoZappin: I really like making my own teams
[19:28] kisian: mediocre player you just get called a normie/average
[19:28] ShootingStarmie☯: well i didnt clarify either, so idk why you're so defensive
[19:28] Accountstolenagain: Im a shit player and remember beating people who at the time were good on rated apparantly
[19:28] Omari P: u clearly were on that bullshit
[19:28] ShootingStarmie☯: i called ttar good, and gave reasoning that its seeing usage in olt, to which you responded by implying people in olt are bad
[19:28] ShootingStarmie☯: lol
[19:29] ZappernoZappin: Just replaced my hippo for ttar because my team was rotom weak
[19:29] Omari P: no no no
[19:29] ShootingStarmie☯: dunno why ur so aggressive
[19:29] real pheal spheal: i mean is he wrong with that implication
[19:29] Omari P: I said olt = / = good
[19:29] ShootingStarmie☯: exactly, which implies olt is bad
[19:29] Omari P: you tried pulling that appeal to authority bullshit
[19:29] ShootingStarmie☯: hence the players are bad
[19:29] Omari P: um nigga no
[19:29] Omari P: lmao
[19:29] eekum bookum: gomikyu i snagged the alternate version
[19:29] ShootingStarmie☯: what are you talking about LOL
[19:29] Omari P: not good doesnt equal bad
[19:29] %gomikyu: bookum
[19:29] %gomikyu: thats even worse
[19:29] ZappernoZappin: MODS HE SAID A bad word!
[19:29] real pheal spheal: if you play gen8ou you are bad
[19:30] Best Teambuilder: Lol what is going on
[19:30] ShootingStarmie☯: bro what are you even talking about
[19:30] ShootingStarmie☯: jesus
[19:30] real pheal spheal: ...at picking good metas
[19:30] ShootingStarmie☯: why did ou chat get this bad
[19:30] Omari P: best teambuilder this child is trying to do appeal to authority fallacy
[19:30] Omari P: and he got called out
[19:30] kisian: true if you play gen 8 ou you lose at the end of the day
[19:30] #brouha: omari p r u not capable of having a conversation without getting so aggressive
[19:30] #brouha: like relax
[19:30] ShootingStarmie☯: i literally asked you whats your standard for good
[19:30] Buno: yall know when crown tundra drops?
[19:30] ShootingStarmie☯: to which u deflected
[19:30] LVloneSupreme: imagine arguing about pokemon LMAO
[19:30] #brouha: its fine if u disagree but u dont need to attack every1 who disagrees w u
[19:30] kisian: november buno
[19:30] kisian: presumably
[19:30] Omari P: brouha I’m not even being aggressive
[19:30] Buno: it got delayed kisian?
[19:31] Omari P: idk why u capping that hard bruh lol
[19:31] eeekum bokum: do you think olt players are bad then
[19:31] kisian: idk i thought that was the original release
[19:31] ZappernoZappin: Maybe this is a PM convo tbh
[19:31] Buno: why r ppl fighting over pokemon
[19:31] ShootingStarmie☯: legit, if we can't base how viable a pokemon is based on its usage in tours idk what to tell you
[19:31] kisian: maybe its just 3 months after whenever isle was
[19:31] Buno: in solluminati's words: thats tuff
[19:31] eeekum bokum: tricking empo abr soulwind are all bad?
[19:31] Omari P: ShootingStarmie☯ it's team and context dependent
[19:31] Omari P: basing off tours is foolish and propaganda
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: lol
[19:32] ZappernoZappin: omg what
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: just word salad
[19:32] airfare: ShootingStarmie wheres ur gvoice bruv
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: "team and context matters"
[19:32] ZappernoZappin: "propaganda" lmao
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: as if that means anything
[19:32] eeekum bokum: omari p
[19:32] eeekum bokum: name me some good players
[19:32] eeekum bokum: who's good
[19:32] #brouha: ppl dont use stuff on teams taht
[19:32] Omari P: storm zone
[19:32] #brouha: dont make sense
[19:32] Omari P: omari p
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: storm zone is in OLT LMAO
[19:32] Accountstolenagain: Good players. Hm
[19:32] ZappernoZappin: No omari no
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: what r u smoking
[19:32] Omari P: storm zone is not an olt player
[19:32] Omari P: hes just in it
[19:32] ShootingStarmie☯: LOL
[19:32] Accountstolenagain: Werster and Exarion?
[19:32] storm zone: im bringing heat to olt tho :D
[19:32] Omari P: he and I do a youtbue channel
[19:33] ShootingStarmie☯: ok youre trolling its obvious
[19:33] ShootingStarmie☯: you got me good
[19:33] Omari P: whats good my man ! storm zone
[19:33] ZappernoZappin: 1400 doesn't qualify as good omari
[19:33] cypherstest: utube link?
[19:33] Glavenus71601: I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but when's that suspect test getting announced?
[19:33] storm zone: sup man hows it goin
[19:33] Omari P: ZappernoZappin wait... ur trying to call me bad? are u forreal
[19:33] Accountstolenagain: Storm 1 v 1 me. Now.
[19:33] Omari P: like l legit wanna be clear here
[19:33] ZappernoZappin: No i'm callling u mid at best omari
[19:33] Accountstolenagain: Omari battle him
[19:33] Omari P: thats new tbh lol
[19:33] Buno: if ur not in eg ur not good #facts
[19:33] ZappernoZappin: Im mid at best too lmao
[19:33] Accountstolenagain: This is how you can see whose better
[19:33] ZappernoZappin: if even
[19:33] Omari P: it's been a min since someone called me bad
[19:34] kisian: bro it gets announced when it gets announced we dont know glavenus71601
[19:34] cypherstest: beef battle
[19:34] Accountstolenagain: They said they're retesting Cinderace
[19:34] airfare: LOL rmbr ipf ske beef battle
[19:34] ShootingStarmie☯: i certainly think ur logic is flawed lol
[19:34] airfare: that was top beef in the last like 3 months in ou room fasho..
[19:34] Omari P: it's not flawed
[19:34] #brouha: k enough w the beef n shit in chat tho fr
[19:34] kisian: oh nvm i guess its been announced
[19:34] ZappernoZappin: I agree with the notion ShootingStarmie
[19:34] #brouha: have a conversation without throwing insults in here
[19:34] Accountstolenagain: Omari. Zapperno. Shut up and fight.
[19:34] #brouha: if ur gonna do that just take it to pms
[19:34] ShootingStarmie☯: its perfectly acceptable to think olt is high level play, and basing viability off of what we see is perfectly acceptable
[19:35] ZappernoZappin: yes
[19:35] Accountstolenagain: Brouha I think it's part of the plo5
[19:35] ShootingStarmie☯: and again, if olt isn't high level play, please point to me what is
[19:35] ZappernoZappin: YES
[19:35] Accountstolenagain: Plot* we witness
[19:35] Accountstolenagain: Can we move on to the battle of this episode? Silly fillers
[19:35] ShootingStarmie☯: ive actively avoided the use of insults
[19:35] Omari P: listen man; good players are good players
[19:35] ShootingStarmie☯: i dont see the need to use them
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: omari, do you think anyone currently in olt is bad?
[19:36] Accountstolenagain: Starmie boiled you bro
[19:36] ZappernoZappin: What qualifies as good??
[19:36] Awesome Person III: Blunder Policy Iron Tail Hustle Dracozolt
[19:36] Buno: nice
[19:36] Omari P: I think ABR is extremely overrated
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: LOL
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: NO
[19:36] Awesome Person III: ABR?
[19:36] Buno: doesnt he have hella tour wins
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: there's no way
[19:36] Omari P: I have a lot of players that agree with me on that too
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: LOOOOl
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: okay i better stop
[19:36] Curious Redditor: How is abr overrated?
[19:36] d18l: oh wow
[19:36] ZappernoZappin: Ye he's just trying to get people heated
[19:36] Awesome Person III: What's ABR
[19:36] d18l: sus isnt up
[19:36] ShootingStarmie☯: abr, considered by many to be the literal goat is overrated
[19:36] d18l: yet?
[19:36] +Forresterr: whats the point in saying that anyway
[19:37] airfare: heard this guy arcsin180 beat abr on olt ladder last gen
[19:37] Omari P: the best part about that statement is that I mention that might be the case, and you inadvertently prove my point
[19:37] airfare: (its true)
[19:37] Accountstolenagain: Guys can you just bsttle?
[19:37] ShootingStarmie☯: ah yes, the old "i only half meant it"
[19:37] ShootingStarmie☯: jesus
[19:37] Accountstolenagain: Opinions dont mean anything on here
[19:37] d18l: what are we arguing again?
[19:37] Accountstolenagain: Its who wins a battle
[19:37] ZappernoZappin: No
[19:37] Omari P: not once did I say I half meant it
[19:37] Accountstolenagain: D181 idk I think olt
[19:37] Omari P: I meant every single sentence
[19:37] d18l: what happened in olt
[19:37] ZappernoZappin: It's not about whos better, it's about whos right
[19:37] cypherstest: there a sus?
[19:38] kisian: just battle lol
[19:38] d18l: yes
[19:38] Buno: what zapperno said
[19:38] d18l: confirmed by finch
[19:38] d18l: cinde resus
[19:38] Omari P: what generation
[19:38] ShootingStarmie☯: abr won smogon tour b2b, and OST, along with team tours
[19:38] Omari P: and what tier
[19:38] d18l: soon
[19:38] cypherstest: oohh
[19:38] ShootingStarmie☯: and you think hes over rated lol
[19:38] airfare: LO
[19:38] Accountstolenagain: D181 you seem like a chill dude
[19:38] airfare: man said what tier in ou room
[19:38] d18l: hi
[19:38] Accountstolenagain: How do we get them to fight?
[19:38] #brouha: the argument is just what metrics ppl use for how good a player is
[19:38] d18l: why would u do that LOL
[19:38] #brouha: nobody is talking about who would win in a battle
[19:38] ZappernoZappin: Cinde is gonna be good for one of my teams
[19:38] Omari P: skill is skill
[19:38] #brouha: between the 2 of them
[19:38] airfare: brouha in ur opinion whos the best player
[19:38] d18l: oh just definition
[19:38] d18l: ok
[19:38] ZappernoZappin: if he's allowed back in
[19:38] #brouha: i think its
[19:38] Buno: shootingstarmie clearly those arent good enough accomplishments for omari
[19:38] airfare: arcsin180
[19:38] airfare: me too
[19:38] #brouha: gomikyu :o
[19:38] airfare: oh
[19:38] airfare: i think its bc juuls
[19:39] Omari P: this community puts FAR too much weight on the tour propaganists tho
[19:39] ShootingStarmie☯: legit what more can u acomplish on smogon
[19:39] airfare: he has 93 gxe
[19:39] ShootingStarmie☯: LOL
[19:39] Omari P: like FAR too much
[19:39] d18l: nah moon is the best player
[19:39] ZappernoZappin: u right brouha it really has nothing to do with our personal skill
[19:39] %gomikyu: brouha stfu i suck
[19:39] d18l: ok if u have to choose
[19:39] Buno: so olt isnt comp and tours isnt comp
[19:39] d18l: mono knock or mono scald pex
[19:39] Buno: wtf is comp then
[19:39] Buno: clan battles in the spanish server?
[19:39] %gomikyu: bet
[19:39] #brouha: yea i mean ppl use success as a metric of skill
[19:39] Omari P: ShootingStarmie☯ just so we are clear, u are aware of who I am right
[19:39] d18l: gomi help me choose
[19:39] #brouha: its the easiest way to justify it
[19:39] ShootingStarmie☯: LOL
[19:39] d18l: mono knock or mono scald pex
[19:39] ShootingStarmie☯: "do u know who i am"
[19:39] ZappernoZappin: Who are you Omari P lmao
[19:39] %gomikyu: id prefer to have mono scald alot of the time
[19:40] d18l: ok then
[19:40] kisian: do you know who i am LMAO
[19:40] Omari P: if u are asking that
[19:40] d18l: gomi do u know
[19:40] Omari P: u got it
[19:40] d18l: cinde resus
[19:40] ZappernoZappin: "My dad owns pokemon" lmao
[19:40] Accountstolenagain: Omari just battle
[19:40] ZappernoZappin: im ready for it
[19:40] LVloneSupreme: niggas aint even know who i am bruv
[19:40] %gomikyu: from what ive heard tommorow
[19:40] Omari P: nah I want them to google me
[19:40] real pheal spheal: omari p yes, you are the guy who put meloetta in B rank on his gen7ou vr
[19:40] ShootingStarmie☯: omari, i have no clue who u are
[19:40] Buno: this guy is so stuck up lmao
[19:40] kisian: ceo of showdown right here
[19:40] #brouha: Accountstolenagain egging on ppl for battles isnt helping
[19:40] Omari P: google "who is omari p
[19:40] d18l: oh spheal hi
[19:40] Accountstolenagain: I'm really bored and want winners tonwin arguments
[19:40] ShootingStarmie☯: why would i waste my time
[19:40] ShootingStarmie☯: LOL
[19:40] ShootingStarmie☯: i can see who u are
[19:40] Accountstolenagain: Well its more of to be interesting
[19:40] ShootingStarmie☯: u think abr is overrated, and think ttar is bad
[19:40] airfare: To answer fairly seriously, despite his general rudeness he's the closest thing to a personal hero in Smogon. Omari was a regular OU poster who heavily favored ladder play over tournaments, and constantly expressed his discontent at how people like Finch ran OU.
[19:40] airfare: LOL
[19:40] ShootingStarmie☯: thats legit all i need to know about u
[19:41] %gomikyu: LOL i know that post airfare
[19:41] Accountstolenagain: They arent going to change their opinions
[19:41] airfare: first thing that came up
[19:41] LVloneSupreme: u got banned
[19:41] LVloneSupreme: loser
[19:41] kisian: basically ceo of smogon then