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  1. Fluxx - Today at 1:36 PM
  2. https://clips.twitch.tv/ObeseHonorableStapleTooSpicy
  3. best if I put it here so we can discuss
  4. if u are free
  5. Mungo - Today at 2:03 PM
  6. we know why you have to roam
  7. key words canadian says
  8. on some map
  9. and wear down resources
  10. we dont do that
  11. we stay up there the whole time
  12. and do retarded things
  13. Fluxx - Today at 2:18 PM
  14. Most maps we play, they play for map control. nV play for map control on every map we scrim. RiP don't play immensely map control, Mst play map control.
  15. Mungo - Today at 2:19 PM
  16. yeah but he doesnt say you dont need to roam unless they try to get map control
  17. he says you only roam on certain maps where that map control is absolutely needed for your strat
  18. its not about what other teams do its about the map
  19. Fluxx - Today at 2:19 PM
  20. yeah
  21. Chalet for instance, you need to roam
  22. CH you don't need to
  23. Bank's Tellers bombsite, you need to roam
  24. Basement you don't need to
  25. Mungo - Today at 2:20 PM
  26. i agree
  27. Fluxx - Today at 2:21 PM
  28. Border Armory -> Don't need to however a 2man security hold to deny map control works when done properly, many teams like nV, GiFu, cTm do that iirc.
  29. Mungo - Today at 2:21 PM
  30. the roam just has to be seutp in the way that the site holders can help
  31. Fluxx - Today at 2:21 PM
  32. Help, as in rotate up?
  33. Mungo - Today at 2:22 PM
  34. well on a map like border
  35. holding under
  36. you can essentially help from main stairs
  37. safely
  38. and help from scanners
  39. Fluxx - Today at 2:23 PM
  40. customs?
  41. Mungo - Today at 2:23 PM
  42. ye customs my bad
  43. Fluxx - Today at 2:23 PM
  44. How can you help from customs?
  45. Mungo - Today at 2:23 PM
  46. like i noticed thats how a lot of high level teams roam workshop
  47. is on the ground floor
  48. they put pressure on upstairs late
  49. its honestly probably a good idea to be like
  50. 40 secodns left lets just
  51. go upstairs together
  52. agro
  53. Fluxx - Today at 2:23 PM
  54. Late roams
  55. Mungo - Today at 2:24 PM
  56. its so unexpected as an attack is timed aggression
  57. Fluxx - Today at 2:24 PM
  58. I've shouted this to Crude like 50 times, go Pulse instead of Valk on Border, and late roam, C4.(edited)
  59. Mungo - Today at 2:24 PM
  60. ye
  61. thats what i was gonna say
  62. thats why i said
  63. valk not that needed
  64. unless maps like
  65. kafe
  66. or chalet
  67. Fluxx - Today at 2:24 PM
  68. we should discuss in serious-channel again
  69. cuz the lads think ur 100% against roaming
  70. Mungo - Today at 2:24 PM
  71. ye will do later
  72. Fluxx - Today at 2:24 PM
  73. everyone should be in the 2 rooms(edited)
  74. Mungo - Today at 2:24 PM
  75. depends on map
  76. all the maps we play
  77. we dont really need hard roamers
  78. im against our style of roaming
  79. Fluxx - Today at 2:25 PM
  80. such as?
  81. well
  82. Mungo - Today at 2:25 PM
  83. club house
  84. we dont need to roam
  85. Fluxx - Today at 2:25 PM
  86. what if we change our style of roaming
  87. Mungo - Today at 2:25 PM
  88. border we barely need to roam
  89. well yes but goodluck getting crude to change that
  90. Fluxx - Today at 2:25 PM
  91. See what you mean is Horizontal roaming right?
  92. on Border
  93. instead of Vertical
  94. Workshop
  95. So cTm roam to delay time. nV do the same exact thing.
  96. - Defense: More on push and pull, roam to delay time and survive if possible
  97. nV
  98. Mungo - Today at 2:27 PM
  99. yes
  100. Fluxx - Today at 2:27 PM
  101. I think crude will like that
  102. Mungo - Today at 2:27 PM
  103. its about delaying their opportunity to get into the site
  104. its what ive been saying this whole time
  105. people just dont want to listen
  106. Fluxx - Today at 2:27 PM
  107. well you did say that you're against roamers
  108. Mungo - Today at 2:27 PM
  109. i am
  110. our style
  111. is not roaming
  112. its just
  113. shit
  114. thats not what a roamer does
  115. Fluxx - Today at 2:28 PM
  116. Yeah I agree that this type of roaming is fuckin effective. And, well you're not against roaming, you're more so against the way we roam
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