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- Shroom - Today at 7:46 PM
- just as a response to your "you attempted to make the FoA into what you wanted it to be, not what everyone else wanted it to be" ... I can only say that what everyone else wants it to be is plaaaaain bad
- Karyete - Today at 7:47 PM
- I'm going to just say it
- You think your opinion is facts.
- Shroom - Today at 7:47 PM
- it's my education
- the education that you shouldn't shitpost, or at least not excessively and unsavorily
- and especially NOT hunting another user
- Karyete - Today at 7:48 PM
- The FoA is a place where people just be silly. That's it. It's a totally optional place that provides no harm.
- And you saying that you had good intentions and was doing what everyone wanted...is wrong.
- You're the only person who has a problem with it.
- Shroom - Today at 7:48 PM
- Never ever said "I was doing what everyone wanted", that was the EXACT core of the problem
- Karyete - Today at 7:49 PM
- "What I did there was a sole attempt to enforce standards for everybody's benefit"
- "everybody's benefit"
- Shroom - Today at 7:49 PM
- yes, it would have been everybody's benefit even if they thought of the opposite
- Karyete - Today at 7:49 PM
- It wasn't for everyone's benefit, it was for yours
- People are fine with the FoA.
- Shroom - Today at 7:49 PM
- because so many people here are dumb?
- Karyete - Today at 7:49 PM
- Ohoho, you didn't just say that
- Shroom - Today at 7:49 PM
- or if they're not dumb, they're at least a little ignorant to that?
- Yeah, that's crudely put
- excuse me
- Karyete - Today at 7:50 PM
- I'll let that slide.
- Shroom - Today at 7:50 PM
- but this subject really triggers me since it was the initial of all the horror that followed
- Karyete - Today at 7:50 PM
- But you need to realise that the easiest option for everybody is that the FoA remains and you just ignore it.
- Shroom - Today at 7:51 PM
- it's done and dusted anyway, but what I did should not have been considered "backseat moderating"
- I'm mainly responding to Ven's "attempting to force changes is ..."
- Karyete - Today at 7:52 PM
- The key word there is force.
- To try and force a change, despite not being staff, is backseat moderating, because you're trying to do the staff's job
- And when I say you're I mean in general, not specifically you
- Shroom - Today at 7:53 PM
- it's maybe showing that I should be staff again indeed? Isn't that the better conclusion?
- Karyete - Today at 7:53 PM
- No.
- Sorry, Shroom, but that didn't work. And all that means is that you're not willing to accept other people's opinions.
- Shroom - Today at 7:54 PM
- I'm willing to accept other opinions but not poor mannerisms
- Karyete - Today at 7:55 PM
- To be honest Shroom, the vast majority of members (not just staff) believe that you're very stubborn and have relatively poor manners yourself
- Because rather than accepting other people's opinions and ideas, you cause arguments to get your way.
- At that point, do you not think you might be in the wrong? Just a tad?
- Shroom - Today at 7:59 PM
- I'm just saying that by OJ, Raz and FF all demoting, and Venexis making his announcement, I was indeed proven right with a couple of things
- Karyete - Today at 8:00 PM
- And what things might they be?
- Because all of them chose to be demoted simply because they thought you weren't worth the trouble.
- Shroom - Today at 8:02 PM
- that it was these people who have made the community a hell with their attitudes. That they were the ones who had detrimental conduct. And if they demoted only because of me then that's both condescending and coward.
- I don't want to lose any further words on this before it targets me even more. I've said all that should change in the post and the usual "haters" (e.g. OJ, FF) keep failing to understand the message.
- With Ven and Yuri I can perfectly communicate about critical subjects. With FF and OJ, they immediately jump on my throat, become aggressive, stir drama.
- Karyete - Today at 8:05 PM
- That is your opinion. They were all very much accepted members of the community before you even joined. And now you come along and claim they're cowards, you call them 'haters'. Do you know why they jump at your throats? Because you're causing so much trouble and aggravation.
- But no, you state it like it's a fact. And you refuse to believe that you may just be wrong.
- You don't get it. You don't understand that the reason why people jump at your throat, and why they demote themselves to get away from the trouble they cause, is because despite everything you still post shit like this: http://runouw.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51022&p=401316#p401316
- Shroom - Today at 8:07 PM
- you call this shit
- Karyete - Today at 8:07 PM
- You are in absolutely no position to make claims like this
- You know how close you were to being permabanned? Nearly all the staff wanted it. I was one of the few who said "no, give him another chance, he might have changed".
- Even right now, you're on two-dimensional ice
- You're lucky you're still not permabanned. And you still come back, and flaunt around your opinion as if we should all just bow to you and agree.
- Shroom - Today at 8:09 PM
- I'm not asking you to bow. I ask you to listen and understand
- Karyete - Today at 8:10 PM
- Then why won't you do the same, Shroom? You go around and accuse us of being ignorant, and in the ultimate irony, you failed to realise you never, ever listen and understand yourself.
- Shroom - Today at 8:11 PM
- Apparently I can really tell that e.g. OJ's behaviour is ignorant, I try to keep telling him stuff factually and he keeps twisting words and acting hypocritically
- that's just something you should think about, rather than thinking his behaviour would be fine
- Karyete - Today at 8:12 PM
- And here we go. You dodge it by trying to once again pick on staff or ex-staff
- We're not talking about OJ. We're talking about you.
- Shroom - Today at 8:14 PM
- Have you ever thought about that my conduct and my intellect might actually be too good for this community?
- Karyete - Today at 8:14 PM
- Ahaha.
- You think you're too good for this community?
- Shroom - Today at 8:15 PM
- Isn't my language and my understanding of rules already signs of this?
- Karyete - Today at 8:16 PM
- You got a three month ban. You've got bugger-all understanding of the rules.
- But let's just head back to that last bit, shall we? Because I love that bit.
- "Have you ever thought about that my conduct and my intellect might actually be too good for this community?"
- Got nothing to say? Because I'm pretty interested in hearing a detailed explanation.(edited)
- Shroom - Today at 8:22 PM
- Too exhausted.
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