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  1. Feb 18 21:14:54 <Max_Marz>      Ed, you know of any hydraulic E-Stop valves?
  2. Feb 18 21:15:11 <Aussie50>      Max_Marz, not really
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  4. Feb 18 21:15:18 <Aussie50>      you could just dump pressure back to tank
  5. Feb 18 21:15:24 ---     tysk_away is now known as tysk
  6. Feb 18 21:15:33 <Max_Marz>      Right, I just want a valve that functions like an E stop
  7. Feb 18 21:15:37 <doogielabs>    Ed, look what I picked up today https://doogielabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wpid-20150218_163825.jpg
  8. Feb 18 21:15:40 <Max_Marz>      it would be a bypass to tank valve
  9. Feb 18 21:15:49 <Aussie50>      yeh I would just tee one into the main line to divert pressure/flow to tank
  10. Feb 18 21:15:55 <doogielabs>    https://doogielabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wpid-20150218_164647.jpg
  11. Feb 18 21:16:07 <Max_Marz>      I just needs to look and act like an E-stop button thats all
  12. Feb 18 21:16:26 <doogielabs>    https://doogielabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/wpid-20150218_163807.jpg
  13. Feb 18 21:16:28 <Max_Marz>      pump is engine driven so killing that at the source is not an option
  14. Feb 18 21:16:53 <Aussie50>      doogielabs, oh wow
  15. Feb 18 21:16:56 <Aussie50>      that is a nice score
  16. Feb 18 21:17:16 <Liny>  ohhi moose
  17. Feb 18 21:17:40 <tysk>  Hello
  18. Feb 18 21:17:40 <Hardies1>      doogielabs: Wow, very nice score!
  19. Feb 18 21:17:48 <doogielabs>    it's an IBM PS/2 P70 . 386, and since it's a genuine PS/2 it uses microchannel architecture
  20. Feb 18 21:17:52 <Captain>       Good evening everyone.
  21. Feb 18 21:17:59 <doogielabs>    Paid $100 for it
  22. Feb 18 21:18:00 <doogielabs>    it was a steal
  23. Feb 18 21:18:05 <Wasp>  Hello again Captain
  24. Feb 18 21:18:07 <Aussie50>      doogielabs, epic steal
  25. Feb 18 21:18:20 <Aussie50>      cannot wait for my 8088 to arrive
  26. Feb 18 21:18:25 <Hardies1>      Hi @Captain. Sorry to see you so grumpy tonight.
  27. Feb 18 21:18:34 <Aussie50>      $200 for a very clean example
  28. Feb 18 21:18:37 <Captain>       The following is not a test, it is not maintainence, and there is nothing wrong with our servers.
  29. Feb 18 21:18:45 <Aussie50>      dual TEAC 5.25" drives
  30. Feb 18 21:18:53 <Liny>  o.0
  31. Feb 18 21:18:54 <Captain>       Jessica, shut it down.
  32. Feb 18 21:18:58 <vanjan>        Really?
  33. Feb 18 21:18:58 <kb3pxr|tab>    Ijustdonated $100 HVL campain
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  172. Feb 18 21:47:20 -->     You are now talking on #thegeekgroup
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  176. Feb 18 21:47:51 *       Max_Marz drops a pin
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  179. Feb 18 21:48:03 <vanjan>        yay
  180. Feb 18 21:48:04 <tysk>  *pin bounces*
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  182. Feb 18 21:48:14 *       Wasp Runs it over excavator
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  184. Feb 18 21:48:22 <Captain>       Good evening everyone.
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  187. Feb 18 21:48:55 <ionstorm66>    are we out of timeout now?
  188. Feb 18 21:48:57 <kb3pxr|tab>    PAY ATTENTION THE CAPTAIN IS SPEAKING
  189. Feb 18 21:48:59 <MoxieMike>     g'morning chris
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  191. Feb 18 21:49:05 <Max_Marz>      everyone shhhh
  192. Feb 18 21:49:06 <Max_Marz>      shhhhhhh
  193. Feb 18 21:49:09 <Max_Marz>      its starting
  194. Feb 18 21:49:19 <Wasp>  no need to yell, there's only 30 people in the channel
  195. Feb 18 21:49:29 <Captain>       I'm just letting people file in so that I don't have to say things 5 times.
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  200. Feb 18 21:49:52 <Alex993cc1>    lol wtf
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  203. Feb 18 21:50:16 <Max_Marz>      Please have a seat everyone the meeting will start momentarily
  204. Feb 18 21:50:18 *       MattressKitten bounces over everyone's heads to be near the front
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  209. Feb 18 21:51:16 *       chad wonder what happen I just seen all kick out channel
  210. Feb 18 21:51:25 <kb3pxr|tab>    Chad, just stand by
  211. Feb 18 21:51:39 *       MattressKitten puts chad in a chair to sit and await official word
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  216. Feb 18 21:52:06 <Captain>       Good evening everyone, come on in, have a seat, the show will start momentarily.
  217. Feb 18 21:52:24 <Captain>       TGG-MasterCtrl are you watching?
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  220. Feb 18 21:52:35 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        I am here.
  221. Feb 18 21:52:39 <VTguy> Ijustdonated $25 4WS04658B45065138
  222. Feb 18 21:52:44 <Captain>       Bring the ls back online please.
  223. Feb 18 21:52:45 <tysk>  Thank you VTguy :)
  224. Feb 18 21:52:50 <Captain>       Thank you VTguy
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  226. Feb 18 21:52:58 <Talos> thank you VTguy :)
  227. Feb 18 21:53:06 <tysk>  Btw, Cliff donated $33 earlier but the website didn't let him mention it.
  228. Feb 18 21:53:07 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        The stream should be back online.
  229. Feb 18 21:53:08 <MattressKitten>        thank you, VTguy. :)
  230. Feb 18 21:53:10 -->     sly (~sly@y-68-36-383-34.hsd6.mn.comcast.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  231. Feb 18 21:53:11 <Sudos> live
  232. Feb 18 21:53:15 <Sedorox>       TGG-MasterCtrl: confirmed
  233. Feb 18 21:53:16 -->     NameNotFound2 (~NameNotFo@i18-61-550-127.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  234. Feb 18 21:53:20 <tysk>  (This was a while ago today)
  235. Feb 18 21:53:21 <AgentX>        i see roof
  236. Feb 18 21:53:22 -->     gtr (~421ae5c6@oua-225-230-483-357.triad.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  237. Feb 18 21:53:29 <tysk>  My LS is still working on loading
  238. Feb 18 21:53:30 -->     HVGeek (~ac09f1fe@381-6-698-106.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  239. Feb 18 21:53:32 -->     jasperdett|laptop (jasperdett@cbj-901-67-483-4.new.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  240. Feb 18 21:53:39 -->     BrefelanS (~Brefelan@o-59-388-707-748.hsd8.de.comcast.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  241. Feb 18 21:53:39 ---     ChanServ gives voice to BrefelanS
  242. Feb 18 21:53:40 <ionstorm66>    roofcam
  243. Feb 18 21:53:44 <kb3pxr|tab>    and I donated to the HVL campaign earlier
  244. Feb 18 21:53:45 <MoxieMike>     i have roof cam
  245. Feb 18 21:53:51 <HVGeek>        what happened?
  246. Feb 18 21:53:57 <VTguy> Captain once again you have our attenetion
  247. Feb 18 21:53:58 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        MattressKitten or SparkyProjects, please check TGG2. It should be on as well.
  248. Feb 18 21:54:02 <VTguy> ops attention
  249. Feb 18 21:54:06 <Nick1296|E6540>        Well, I'm wiping this laptop. Have to backup to a second external drive too
  250. Feb 18 21:54:10 <MattressKitten>        hecking
  251. Feb 18 21:54:14 <MattressKitten>        checking*
  252. Feb 18 21:54:17 <Captain>       kb3pxr|tab, check your voicemail ;)
  253. Feb 18 21:54:20 *       tysk tries to load the LS
  254. Feb 18 21:54:36 <MoxieMike>     tgg2 currently on vsl
  255. Feb 18 21:54:49 <HVGeek>        did the power go out or something
  256. Feb 18 21:54:50 <MattressKitten>        tgg2 is live. let me check functionality
  257. Feb 18 21:54:54 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        MoxieMike, *MDH
  258. Feb 18 21:54:58 <tysk>  TGG-MasterCtrl: When will the paid LS come back?
  259. Feb 18 21:55:05 <--     moogle has quit (Client Quit)
  260. Feb 18 21:55:15 <MoxieMike>     the camera is on the hvl wall
  261. Feb 18 21:55:16 <Hardies1>      HVGeek: Captain snapped and ordered everything shut down.
  262. Feb 18 21:55:28 <tysk>  There will be Storytime shortly.
  263. Feb 18 21:55:29 <HVGeek>        hardies why
  264. Feb 18 21:55:32 <tysk>  Please stand by, and get your LS ready
  265. Feb 18 21:55:32 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        tysk, I don't understand.
  266. Feb 18 21:55:34 <Talos> Captain, it appears you have the Conch
  267. Feb 18 21:55:38 <Captain>       I wouldn't call that "snapping".
  268. Feb 18 21:55:42 <jkl>   lol conch.
  269. Feb 18 21:55:45 <--     gtr has quit (Client Quit)
  270. Feb 18 21:55:50 <ionstorm66>    i like conch
  271. Feb 18 21:55:52 <HaxtorMoogle>  what just happened? I got a message that I was banned I almost had a panic attack :(
  272. Feb 18 21:55:53 <Captain>       I know, I'm giving it a minute, people are still coming in.
  273. Feb 18 21:55:54 <ionstorm66>    they are tasty
  274. Feb 18 21:56:10 <MattressKitten>        TGG-MasterCtrl, do not appear to have switching functionality on tgg2.
  275. Feb 18 21:56:11 <HVGeek>        same here haxtor
  276. Feb 18 21:56:14 -->     gtr (~421ae5c6@oua-225-230-483-357.triad.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  277. Feb 18 21:56:16 <Talos> Captain and yes, I just fucking "Lord of the Flies"'d ya
  278. Feb 18 21:56:51 <SparkyProjects>        tysk, paid tgg1 is working, hard refresh maybe ?
  279. Feb 18 21:57:01 <tysk>  Let me try
  280. Feb 18 21:57:06 <gtr>   LS back, good...  :)
  281. Feb 18 21:57:13 <kb3pxr|tab>    Captain, it wasn't that I thought you were a telemarketer, I'm about 25 mile away from that phone.
  282. Feb 18 21:57:16 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Rocco, What am I missing on TGG2?
  283. Feb 18 21:57:29 <tysk>  kb3pxr|tab: It was the number I could find!
  284. Feb 18 21:57:54 <MattressKitten>        TGG-MasterCtrl, it may need to wait, it's almost 10pm.
  285. Feb 18 21:58:10 <kb3pxr|tab>    Moose, that's my preferred number for most contacts such as doctors and other things I don't want calling my cell.
  286. Feb 18 21:58:15 <ionstorm66>    ls went black?>
  287. Feb 18 21:58:17 <tysk>  It's a good system
  288. Feb 18 21:58:20 <Sedorox>       offline
  289. Feb 18 21:58:23 <Sudos> LS is back
  290. Feb 18 21:58:24 <Sedorox>       back
  291. Feb 18 21:58:28 <Sudos> at least on streamup too.
  292. Feb 18 21:58:34 <AgentX>        back on ustream
  293. Feb 18 21:58:35 -->     Ed__ (~Ed@hmq-457-414-596-454.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) has joined #thegeekgroup
  294. Feb 18 21:58:42 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Working on bringing everything back online...
  295. Feb 18 21:58:57 <tysk>  Like TGG1+? :)
  296. Feb 18 21:59:03 *       Max_Marz snickers
  297. Feb 18 21:59:15 <tysk>  That would be neat.
  298. Feb 18 21:59:30 <chad>  log in
  299. Feb 18 21:59:31 <Rocco> TGG-MasterCtrl the video router server on saturn server
  300. Feb 18 21:59:49 -->     Disclaimer (~Disclaime@763-27-33-228-vtfuulwm.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  301. Feb 18 22:00:01 -->     APotato (~8ad2f3c2@rn-723-805-338-289.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  302. Feb 18 22:00:02 <tysk>  chad: Thank you for that sage advice.
  303. Feb 18 22:00:02 <--     MattressKitten has kicked Disclaimer from #thegeekgroup (Not tonight. Sorry.)
  304. Feb 18 22:00:04 <Captain>       TGG1 is on, I'm seeing it
  305. Feb 18 22:00:09 <Captain>       2 is on, that's the paid channel
  306. Feb 18 22:00:13 <Sudos> LOL MattressKitten
  307. Feb 18 22:00:17 <tysk>  Captain: We're having some issues with TGG1+ (Paid)
  308. Feb 18 22:00:26 <jkl>   Captain: There's a special inhouse TGG1
  309. Feb 18 22:00:30 <jkl>   that's the-- what she said.
  310. Feb 18 22:00:35 <Captain>       ahhhh
  311. Feb 18 22:00:40 <MattressKitten>        i'm seeing the paid stream fine...?
  312. Feb 18 22:00:50 <tysk>  Some are, some aren't
  313. Feb 18 22:00:59 <VTguy> tysk tgg1 I refreshed and it was ok
  314. Feb 18 22:00:59 -->     DX-MON (~dx-mon@192.168.yuk.xh) has joined #thegeekgroup
  315. Feb 18 22:00:59 ---     ChanServ gives voice to DX-MON
  316. Feb 18 22:01:07 <MoxieMike>     tgg1 without logging in is black
  317. Feb 18 22:01:12 ---     Talos is now known as Talos|Away
  318. Feb 18 22:01:13 <Captain>       Taking control of LS now
  319. Feb 18 22:01:16 <MoxieMike>     tgg1 with loging in is live
  320. Feb 18 22:01:26 <kb3pxr|tab>    Moose try command+shift+r
  321. Feb 18 22:01:29 <MattressKitten>        of course, it helps when tgg2 isn't bitching at me that it's past viewing time and stealing focus. :P
  322. Feb 18 22:01:37 <MadManMarkAu>  lol
  323. Feb 18 22:01:39 *       tysk tries
  324. Feb 18 22:01:48 <--     Ed__ has quit (Client Quit)
  325. Feb 18 22:02:01 -->     Aussie50 (~Ed@hmq-457-414-596-454.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) has joined #thegeekgroup
  326. Feb 18 22:02:01 ---     ChanServ gives channel operator status to Aussie50
  327. Feb 18 22:02:14 <kb3pxr|tab>    Moose can't be sure if that is right on Mac, I simply replaced control with command
  328. Feb 18 22:02:21 <tysk>  lol
  329. Feb 18 22:02:40 <Captain>       TGG-MasterCtrl, something's wonky, I can't pulldown local control from the web interface.
  330. Feb 18 22:03:02 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Checking...
  331. Feb 18 22:03:06 -->     Jdbmanalo (~6bd0662f@242-348-297-01.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  332. Feb 18 22:03:08 <tysk>  kb3pxr|tab: It is, for what it'S world, control-refresh
  333. Feb 18 22:03:17 ---     Talos|Away is now known as Talos
  334. Feb 18 22:03:19 <MoxieMike>     i'm sure there's a hammer in the tool room
  335. Feb 18 22:03:20 -->     tgg_87003 (~18d10a0e@mqn-71-656-00-78.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  336. Feb 18 22:03:29 -->     reabInc (~reabinc@muhj-05-50-35-21.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  337. Feb 18 22:03:31 -->     Liny (~pink_fox@gbvy-248-25-364-344.dsl.lsan74.sbcglobal.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  338. Feb 18 22:03:43 <Jessica_T>     This is why every machine needs a big red button under glass that says MANUAL OVERRIDE
  339. Feb 18 22:03:51 <kb3pxr|tab>    alright moose, haven't messed with macs in the internet relm in almost a decade
  340. Feb 18 22:03:54 ---     tgg_87003 is now known as radiocliff
  341. Feb 18 22:04:10 <gtr>   the big red reset button...
  342. Feb 18 22:04:13 <Wasp>  Jessica_T, But the controls are locked out, I can't override! We're losing stablizers!
  343. Feb 18 22:04:32 <Wasp>  *ceiling and floor switch*
  344. Feb 18 22:04:44 <cheese>        compensate for phase variance!
  345. Feb 18 22:04:53 <--     radiocliff has quit (Client Quit)
  346. Feb 18 22:04:57 <cheese>        try a rotating shield harmonic!
  347. Feb 18 22:05:18 <HVGeek>        Percussive matinece may work
  348. Feb 18 22:05:28 <HaxtorMoogle>  thoes damn tackion particles
  349. Feb 18 22:05:32 *       Aussie50 throws hammer into warp core
  350. Feb 18 22:05:46 -->     radiocliff (~18d10a0e@mqn-71-656-00-78.cinci.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  351. Feb 18 22:05:53 <Max_Marz>      NO FUN TODAY!
  352. Feb 18 22:05:53 *       HVGeek facepalms
  353. Feb 18 22:06:11 <Wasp>  WERE LOSING ANTIMATTER CONTAINMENT
  354. Feb 18 22:06:12 <gtr>   maybe you are running low of delithium crystals?
  355. Feb 18 22:06:13 <Liny>  someone going to reset the topic? "Rules http://tgg.xyz/ircrules | Fundraiser: HVL Campaign http://tgg.xyz/hvlcampaign | http://tgg.xyz/qvsspecialoffer | http://tgg.xyz/FAQhelp |  http://tgg.xyz/notices | http://tgg.xyz/membermap"
  356. Feb 18 22:06:33 <Max_Marz>      DAMOT ED
  357. Feb 18 22:06:33 <Wasp>  *sieren*
  358. Feb 18 22:06:33 ---     SparkyProjects has changed the topic to: Rules http://tgg.xyz/ircrules | Fundraiser: HVL Campaign http://tgg.xyz/hvlcampaign | http://tgg.xyz/qvsspecialoffer | http://tgg.xyz/FAQhelp |  http://tgg.xyz/notices | http://tgg.xyz/membermap"
  359. Feb 18 22:06:43 <Liny>  thanks sparky
  360. Feb 18 22:06:45 <Max_Marz>      its all going to hell
  361. Feb 18 22:06:55 <gtr>   eject the core....
  362. Feb 18 22:06:59 *       Aussie50 plays Iced Earth - High Water Mark
  363. Feb 18 22:07:25 *       chad just sit an awaits ....
  364. Feb 18 22:07:35 <APotato>       set phasers to fruit salad
  365. Feb 18 22:07:37 -->     tgg_69418 (~7cb09352@wqt-719-711-287-46.lns5.lon.bigpond.net.au) has joined #thegeekgroup
  366. Feb 18 22:07:37 *       kb3pxr|tab awaits captain's message
  367. Feb 18 22:07:42 <kb3pxr|tab>    no LS here
  368. Feb 18 22:07:45 *       Wasp Joins Aussie50
  369. Feb 18 22:07:48 <gtr>   fruit salad yummy
  370. Feb 18 22:07:49 ---     Talos is now known as Talos|Away
  371. Feb 18 22:07:50 <Aussie50>      I'm guessing its pay per view?
  372. Feb 18 22:07:51 <--     tgg_69418 has quit (Client Quit)
  373. Feb 18 22:07:56 <Sudos> https://streamup.com/TheGeekGroup
  374. Feb 18 22:07:59 <Max_Marz>      Im kinda loling right now
  375. Feb 18 22:08:03 <tysk>  I would appreciate if you didn't speculate.
  376. Feb 18 22:08:26 -->     spaceman (~7cb09352@wqt-719-711-287-46.lns5.lon.bigpond.net.au) has joined #thegeekgroup
  377. Feb 18 22:08:31 <Captain>       Ed's having fun swimming in the deep end at the moment.
  378. Feb 18 22:08:54 <Aussie50>      I love the deep end, its where you catch the best fish :D
  379. Feb 18 22:08:59 <Max_Marz>      for the record ed still has no fucking idea whats going on because you havent told him yet
  380. Feb 18 22:09:06 <Max_Marz>      jussayin
  381. Feb 18 22:09:08 <HaxtorMoogle>  woah that graphic was amazing... scared the hell out of me as my speakers were up high
  382. Feb 18 22:09:16 <tysk>  haha.
  383. Feb 18 22:09:21 <Captain>       I was referring to Editor, not Aussie50 (who is also an Ed).
  384. Feb 18 22:09:26 <Max_Marz>      derp
  385. Feb 18 22:09:27 <Aussie50>      hehe
  386. Feb 18 22:09:27 <gtr>   graphic was cool
  387. Feb 18 22:09:28 <Captain>       Albeit a special one.
  388. Feb 18 22:09:44 <LemMinG>       but not quite a forest... of broccoli
  389. Feb 18 22:09:49 ---     Talos|Away is now known as Talos
  390. Feb 18 22:09:59 <HaxtorMoogle>  was like the thx sound test
  391. Feb 18 22:10:18 *       Jdbmanalo is cofused at tonights course of events.
  392. Feb 18 22:10:23 <--     tgg_42629 (~484d392b@muhj-05-50-35-21.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) has left #thegeekgroup
  393. Feb 18 22:10:27 <tysk>  Storytime begins shortly.
  394. Feb 18 22:10:35 ---     Talos is now known as Talos|Away
  395. Feb 18 22:10:36 <VTguy> :)
  396. Feb 18 22:10:38 <Captain>       If Broccoli ever pulls his head out of his ass......
  397. Feb 18 22:10:50 <LemMinG>       for those of us not able to be on the livestream atm, will this be blogged?
  398. Feb 18 22:10:59 <APotato>       do i have time to get popcorn?
  399. Feb 18 22:11:06 <Captain>       No, but I'm sure someone will record it.
  400. Feb 18 22:11:07 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Aussie50, how shitty is your swimming pool maintenance that you have fish in it?
  401. Feb 18 22:11:10 <HVGeek>        YAY! Stoytime! can we read if you give a mouse a cookie?
  402. Feb 18 22:11:30 <Max_Marz>      this irony is killing me
  403. Feb 18 22:11:31 <kb3pxr|tab>    Captain will someone also likely relay via IRC?
  404. Feb 18 22:11:39 <Aussie50>      TGG-MasterCtrl, deep end of the ocaen :p. I like my fish non-chlorinated
  405. Feb 18 22:11:40 <LemMinG>       Captain, please make sure someone is before you step off, I'd like to hear this but cannot access the streams while at work
  406. Feb 18 22:11:47 <Captain>       At this rate I'll have to do the whole thing in IRC.
  407. Feb 18 22:11:52 <MattressKitten>        Captain, he doesn't have his radio on him - i can hear it over skype (stephen, you doofus)
  408. Feb 18 22:12:02 ---     Talos|Away is now known as Talos
  409. Feb 18 22:12:18 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Hang on, I'll go get it so I can be yelled at...
  410. Feb 18 22:12:18 >LemMinG<       I can do a MP3 recording if you wish
  411. Feb 18 22:12:19 <tysk>  Max_Marz: I appreciate the humour in it but you are now part of the problem ;)
  412. Feb 18 22:12:26 <Captain>       Really......after the whole staff meeting about communications, you're not on your fucking radio?
  413. Feb 18 22:12:35 <HVGeek>        lol
  414. Feb 18 22:12:35 <Captain>       I mean....really?
  415. Feb 18 22:12:42 <Captain>       Because that was, what.....Yesterday?
  416. Feb 18 22:12:46 <Captain>       The day before, tops?
  417. Feb 18 22:12:48 <tysk>  It was indeed yesterday.
  418. Feb 18 22:12:49 ---     Talos is now known as Talos|Away
  419. Feb 18 22:13:19 <Monkeh>        Glue it to him
  420. Feb 18 22:13:24 *       VTguy ducks as Captain starts to toss thing at editor
  421. Feb 18 22:13:33 <gtr>   hope no one is in trouble...
  422. Feb 18 22:13:34 -->     EffinToast (~EffinToas@at291-388.members.linode.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  423. Feb 18 22:13:44 <Aussie50>      gtr, lol
  424. Feb 18 22:13:47 <Captain>       Rocco is working on the control problem, I trust it will be sorted shortly.
  425. Feb 18 22:13:58 <Captain>       Fuck it, I'll do it here.
  426. Feb 18 22:13:58 <Nick1296|E6540>        Has anyone said what happened yet?
  427. Feb 18 22:14:07 <Captain>       Good evening everyone.
  428. Feb 18 22:14:15 <Sudos> Nick1296|E6540: tune into the stream.
  429. Feb 18 22:14:16 <APotato>       good evening
  430. Feb 18 22:14:20 <chad>  hello Captain
  431. Feb 18 22:14:20 <VTguy> evening Captain
  432. Feb 18 22:14:21 <kb3pxr|tab>    Good evening captain
  433. Feb 18 22:14:23 <Nick1296|E6540>        Link?
  434. Feb 18 22:14:23 <Hardies1>      Good evening Captain
  435. Feb 18 22:14:23 *       Jdbmanalo runs from incoming nuke
  436. Feb 18 22:14:27 <HVGeek>        howdy
  437. Feb 18 22:14:30 <gtr>   Hello Captain
  438. Feb 18 22:14:31 <Sudos> Nick1296|E6540: https://streamup.com/TheGeekGroup
  439. Feb 18 22:14:49 <Captain>       First off, nobody was banned, and I made it clear before we went down that it was intentional and my doing.
  440. Feb 18 22:14:58 <Captain>       You can tell that you're not banned, because you're reading this.
  441. Feb 18 22:14:59 <HVGeek>        Phew
  442. Feb 18 22:15:08 *       HaxtorMoogle waves at Captain hi
  443. Feb 18 22:15:13 <Captain>       It had nothing to do with the fundraiser, that was closed out beforehand.
  444. Feb 18 22:15:37 <Captain>       Now, pay close attention. I'm only going to say this once.
  445. Feb 18 22:15:51 -->     eggman9713 (~eggman971@42-42-078-546.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  446. Feb 18 22:16:05 <Captain>       The Geek Group's Internet Relay Chat exists to serve exactly Three primary purposes. It serves many others, but there are only three that matter.
  447. Feb 18 22:16:32 ---     Talos|Away is now known as Talos
  448. Feb 18 22:16:37 <Captain>       1. To provide an online peer group and communication backbone for our members, viewers, and fans.
  449. Feb 18 22:16:38 ---     Talos is now known as talos
  450. Feb 18 22:16:47 <--     NameNotFound2 has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
  451. Feb 18 22:17:00 -->     deef (~ohsite@e670-72-503-86.bchsia.telus.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  452. Feb 18 22:17:11 <Rocco> Captain caspar is about to get restarted
  453. Feb 18 22:17:15 <Captain>       2. To provide a working Think Tank, Hivemind, etc to the membership and staff for solving large scale and complex problems.
  454. Feb 18 22:17:15 <Rocco> just to be safe
  455. Feb 18 22:17:59 -->     NameNotFound (~NameNotFo@i18-61-550-127.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  456. Feb 18 22:18:00 <Captain>       3. To ensure a high level of transparency of our operation to the membership by giving the staff direct access to our most devoted members and fans.
  457. Feb 18 22:18:08 <Captain>       That is why we are here.
  458. Feb 18 22:18:15 -->     callitacomeb_WDH8294 (~callitaco@d-68-24-458-02.hsd5.ca.comcast.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  459. Feb 18 22:18:18 <Sudos> FIST
  460. Feb 18 22:18:22 <callitacomeb_WDH8294>  whahappan
  461. Feb 18 22:18:27 <tysk>  First!
  462. Feb 18 22:18:30 <tysk>  *Fist!
  463. Feb 18 22:18:35 <jkl>   fist!
  464. Feb 18 22:18:35 <Captain>       Thank you Editor and Rocco, but I'm going to stay on here so that non viewers can see what I have to say.
  465. Feb 18 22:18:36 <HVGeek>        fist
  466. Feb 18 22:18:40 <talos> he really likes fisting us
  467. Feb 18 22:18:41 <talos> and hum
  468. Feb 18 22:18:53 <Captain>       Now, where was I.......
  469. Feb 18 22:19:02 <VTguy> #3
  470. Feb 18 22:19:05 <HVGeek>        3
  471. Feb 18 22:19:07 <Nick1296|E6540>        Why the IRC went down...
  472. Feb 18 22:19:09 <Captain>       I understand that all IRC rooms devolve into chaos eventually.
  473. Feb 18 22:19:09 <Sudos> I regret nothing about making that image ever. I regret not a single thing.
  474. Feb 18 22:19:11 -->     mikesound87 (~mikesound@u-145-17-35-849.hsd3.pa.comcast.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  475. Feb 18 22:19:26 <Captain>       *ahem* Gentlemen.....if you will please.
  476. Feb 18 22:19:29 *       chad sit awaits for view
  477. Feb 18 22:19:33 -->     Elise1 (~Doogie@65.102.uss.gto) has joined #thegeekgroup
  478. Feb 18 22:19:50 <Sudos> 'evening, Elise1
  479. Feb 18 22:19:50 <doogielabs>    The room wasn't in chaos before??
  480. Feb 18 22:19:51 <Hardies1>      go ahead captain I am listening.
  481. Feb 18 22:19:51 <MattressKitten>        Platypus, Captain On Stream, CaptainOnStream, Captain On Deck, CaptainOnDeck
  482. Feb 18 22:20:01 <HVGeek>        captain on ls
  483. Feb 18 22:20:03 <Captain>       Now, I understand that all IRC rooms devolve into chaos eventually, such is the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
  484. Feb 18 22:20:09 -->     KC (~ad0d0cfc@763-27-33-228-vtfuulwm.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  485. Feb 18 22:20:11 <Elise1>        Hi Sudos :)
  486. Feb 18 22:20:24 <Captain>       However, the IRC has failed, at all 3 of the stated purposes, for over a month.
  487. Feb 18 22:20:30 <Aussie50>      doogielabs, nothing really changed
  488. Feb 18 22:20:34 <Captain>       And that is unacceptable.
  489. Feb 18 22:20:53 -->     Mule (~Animal@462-79-16-939.hlrn.qwest.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  490. Feb 18 22:20:55 <Captain>       So, we're going to get things back into shape around here, and instill some active moderation.
  491. Feb 18 22:21:01 <Captain>       Because, this is what the IRC is not.
  492. Feb 18 22:21:10 <Captain>       The IRC is not the primary fundraising arm of the Group.
  493. Feb 18 22:21:38 <Captain>       The IRC is not my personal army (I have one, it's just not here. Though some of you are members).
  494. Feb 18 22:21:53 <Captain>       The IRC is not the Aussie50 Fan Club.
  495. Feb 18 22:22:01 <Captain>       The IRC is not the Doogielabs fan club.
  496. Feb 18 22:22:11 <Max_Marz>      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  497. Feb 18 22:22:18 *       Mule blinks
  498. Feb 18 22:22:34 <Aussie50>      now thats just petty considering I was promoting TGG just as you got the old YMCA building
  499. Feb 18 22:22:42 <Captain>       The overall level of jackassery in here is going to come down about 50 notches, and the level of professionalism is going to skyrocket.
  500. Feb 18 22:22:49 <doogielabs>    There is no fanclub here? I simply use my internet activity to draw people here, so create membership
  501. Feb 18 22:22:55 <Captain>       Because otherwise, our moderators will fucking kickban your ass.
  502. Feb 18 22:23:15 <cheese>        Captain, Several of us feel like the primary purpose of the irc from your point of view is fundraising. Those of us that feel that way think that parts 1 and 2 of your stated purposes for the IRC are met daily.
  503. Feb 18 22:23:33 <Elise1>        Wow.
  504. Feb 18 22:23:36 <Captain>       Did I ask for input yet?
  505. Feb 18 22:23:46 <doogielabs>    I'm sorry if this was because I was posting a couple of pictures when you came on. If you had someone to help, or needed someone to help you wouldn't a "May I have your attention please?" suffice?
  506. Feb 18 22:23:59 <cheese>        if you don't want input set the channel to +m
  507. Feb 18 22:24:03 <Captain>       It has nothing to do with your pics or postings.
  508. Feb 18 22:24:10 <VTguy> please let the Captain talk
  509. Feb 18 22:24:29 <LemMinG>       then how is them being here a bad thing Captain? it attracts more user to TGG
  510. Feb 18 22:24:30 ---     jkl sets mode +m #thegeekgroup
  511. Feb 18 22:24:30 ---     jkl sets mode +g #thegeekgroup
  512. Feb 18 22:24:30 ---     jkl sets mode +r #thegeekgroup
  513. Feb 18 22:24:30 ---     jkl sets mode +p #thegeekgroup
  514. Feb 18 22:24:34 <Captain>       It has a lot to do with the vast majority of our traffic on here, on a regular basis, being entirely you two gentlemen talking about things that in no way effect the Group.
  515. Feb 18 22:24:55 <Captain>       Because of the unsers it attracts.
  516. Feb 18 22:25:15 <jkl>   If y'all will hold your questions for the end it would be appreciated
  517. Feb 18 22:25:34 *       talos tips hat to jkl "Thanks ma'am"
  518. Feb 18 22:25:44 <Captain>       If it attracts users that are just here to follow either Ed or Doogie, then those people are not actually becoming members, they hold no loyalty to the Group or real interest in it's operations and they use resources and offer nothing.
  519. Feb 18 22:25:58 <Captain>       This is not a place for just anyone to hang out, there are plenty of IRCs for that.
  520. Feb 18 22:26:17 <Captain>       And when we get just general gomers in here, the signal/noise ratio gets out of hand that this place becomes useless for the Group
  521. Feb 18 22:26:22 <Captain>       And that, is what it's here for.
  522. Feb 18 22:26:25 ---     jkl sets mode -m #thegeekgroup
  523. Feb 18 22:26:37 <Captain>       So.
  524. Feb 18 22:26:47 <Captain>       Moderation will be stepped up, a lot.
  525. Feb 18 22:27:06 <Captain>       If you want to hang out with Aussie50 and bullshit all day, that's great, but I'm sure he has his own IRC for that.
  526. Feb 18 22:27:26 <Captain>       He's worked hard to establish his fan base, and they are loyal to him, and it's his job to take care of them.
  527. Feb 18 22:27:36 <Captain>       But this is where I take care of MY fan base, not his.
  528. Feb 18 22:27:46 <Captain>       The same is true for Doogie.
  529. Feb 18 22:27:51 <Captain>       They're both welcome to hang out here.
  530. Feb 18 22:27:52 <Max_Marz>      ....
  531. Feb 18 22:28:03 <Captain>       I just don't want them DOMINATING this space, that is inappropriate.
  532. Feb 18 22:28:03 *       Aussie50 regrets all the times he sent new fans and members to TGG, even if one in 5 send a new friend of theirs to TGG that became a member, that is obviously not good enough
  533. Feb 18 22:28:09 <doogielabs>    I didn't come here for a pissing contest of fanbases, I came here because I love intelligent conversation with intelligent people.
  534. Feb 18 22:28:21 <Aussie50>      this has nothing to do with fanbases
  535. Feb 18 22:28:24 <Captain>       And that is exactly what I'm trying to instill.
  536. Feb 18 22:28:26 <Mule>  ^^ this ^^
  537. Feb 18 22:28:29 <Aussie50>      people who use TGG IRC want to be here
  538. Feb 18 22:28:31 <Captain>       Intelligent conversation among the weirdos.
  539. Feb 18 22:28:52 <doogielabs>    I came here to bring intelligent people together, when theyre here and comfortable they learn about TGG and use exercise their resources
  540. Feb 18 22:29:16 <Max_Marz>      Captain you yourself invited me to join the geek group in a video chat with doogie
  541. Feb 18 22:29:35 <eggman9713>    I always thought there was some level of cooperation between TGG and these other fanbases. I only learned about TGG through Aussie50's videos.
  542. Feb 18 22:29:36 <Captain>       Max, you're breathing air above your pay grade, chill out.
  543. Feb 18 22:29:42 <Aussie50>      I have promoted TGG on numerous occasions without being privately asked to by Chris, possibly even before they got the old YMCA building
  544. Feb 18 22:29:46 <tysk>  You know what was pretty frustrating to me this week? I had an AMA scheduled and I asked who wanted to participate and I was flat-out told no, and that people wanted to just hang out.
  545. Feb 18 22:29:53 <Max_Marz>      I will speak for myself
  546. Feb 18 22:29:59 <eggman9713>    tysk: ok. That obviously is an issue, I agree.
  547. Feb 18 22:30:00 <Aussie50>      eggman9713, apparently thats not good enough
  548. Feb 18 22:30:12 <doogielabs>    I gave a year of my life there physically and it certainly made a difference.
  549. Feb 18 22:30:14 <LemMinG>       Captain, have you ever heard the phrase "any publicity is good publicity"
  550. Feb 18 22:30:22 <tysk>  LemMinG: That phrase is bullshit and not true.
  551. Feb 18 22:30:26 <Aussie50>      what LemMinG said
  552. Feb 18 22:30:28 <vanjan>        tysk: when youve done so many of them we run out of questions
  553. Feb 18 22:30:29 <Max_Marz>      and I will speak to who I want to, be that doogie OR ed, and if that means a ban then so be it
  554. Feb 18 22:30:30 <HVGeek>        agreed tysk
  555. Feb 18 22:30:39 <LemMinG>       tysk, I beg to differ
  556. Feb 18 22:30:51 <LemMinG>       I ran HSBNE for 2 years and quadrupled it'
  557. Feb 18 22:30:56 <cheese>        tysk, last I heard you had rescheduled because you didn't feel well. I didn't see any mention of it after that
  558. Feb 18 22:30:56 <LemMinG>       it's membership in that time
  559. Feb 18 22:31:01 <tysk>  Well, that'S fine, but I've experienced publicity that wasn't any kinds of good, so I do understand what I speak on this one.
  560. Feb 18 22:31:04 <Aussie50>      Max_Marz, I have known you long before we came to TGG and I stand by you too
  561. Feb 18 22:31:05 <LemMinG>       numbers which is still yet to match
  562. Feb 18 22:31:07 <doogielabs>    If people are not paying attention to the staff in this channel than something does need to change I'll agree.
  563. Feb 18 22:31:09 <Aussie50>      along with all my fans
  564. Feb 18 22:31:12 <tysk>  cheese: It was before that.
  565. Feb 18 22:31:18 <VTguy> tysk I would have if I was available when it was happening but i had work to do.
  566. Feb 18 22:31:25 <LemMinG>       getting people "through the door" is the first part of getting them to be members
  567. Feb 18 22:31:29 <tysk>  It's not about bringing in a certain quantity of people, and you're trying to make it into a fight that it is not.
  568. Feb 18 22:31:30 <chad>  I have no issue with common ground rules of irc and the staff here i''am okay  with this
  569. Feb 18 22:31:37 <Nick1296|E6540>        http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/14/comcast-skydog/
  570. Feb 18 22:31:40 <eggman9713>    Ok, there are obviously some issues that need to be solved. Let's all just chill for a bit and take in what Captain just said.
  571. Feb 18 22:31:44 <Mule>  also, >what is participation inequality
  572. Feb 18 22:31:51 <Mule>  there's always going to be the "top members" in any community
  573. Feb 18 22:31:57 <LemMinG>       inviting any and all comers is the best way to get members and grow a group
  574. Feb 18 22:31:57 <Nick1296|E6540>        Has anyone read that? Comcast has yet something else under their monopoly.
  575. Feb 18 22:31:57 <Mule>  the ones who everyone knows
  576. Feb 18 22:32:09 <tysk>  But it is certainly frustrating when we are trying to broadcast to you all and actively participate and get ignored in favour of things happening on other channels, but talked about in this room.
  577. Feb 18 22:32:14 <Max_Marz>      I bet ed and doogie have "a sincere and passionate desire to learn"
  578. Feb 18 22:32:19 <Aussie50>      Mule, so far they have ran off all the popular youtubers apart from me
  579. Feb 18 22:32:20 <BrefelanS>     I can certainly tell you that "any publicity is good publicity" is bunk when someone's opinion is swayed by what they read via things like the TGG wikipedia page and mis-informed & sensationalist articles about the fire.
  580. Feb 18 22:32:28 <doogielabs>    Every day, I love to learn
  581. Feb 18 22:32:45 <Aussie50>      Max_Marz, fucking oath I do, and when I teach people about modern Common Rail Diesel issues, people learn from it, in IRC and on my channel
  582. Feb 18 22:33:01 <VTguy> Aussie50 TGG is not about you! its about all of us as a group
  583. Feb 18 22:33:20 <chad>  and also for sure though I love learn  new things about the computers and video such
  584. Feb 18 22:33:23 <eggman9713>    Captain did not say he is banning anyone or any subject, we just need to manage ourselves a bit better. I think that is reasonable.
  585. Feb 18 22:33:25 <LemMinG>       I would point out tysk, that there is relatively little IRC participation from staff at TGG
  586. Feb 18 22:33:25 <Aussie50>      VTguy, that is why I contribute info to the group for all to learn
  587. Feb 18 22:33:28 ---     Rocco is now known as Rocco_Away
  588. Feb 18 22:33:29 <tysk>  When we, The Geek Group, try to get participation from the IRC and the IRC is ignoring us in favour of completely unrelated discussions in this channel, it is an issue. And frequently you two are heading those discussions.
  589. Feb 18 22:33:45 <Hardies1>      I learned about TGG from hearing about it in @Aussie50's videos on YouTube and I thank him for talking about it or I would have never known it existed.
  590. Feb 18 22:33:54 <tysk>  LemMinG: Most of us are busy doing stuff all day, but those of us who do spend time in IRC try to make it valuable time.
  591. Feb 18 22:33:59 <Aussie50>      VTguy, if you want some channel space to discuss somthing, then ask me to tone it down and let you speak, EVERYONE can ask me that
  592. Feb 18 22:34:12 <tysk>  Well let's actually try that then
  593. Feb 18 22:34:13 <Captain>       Ok, so this is what is going to happen.
  594. Feb 18 22:34:14 <ionstorm66>    tysk, then we should get a general chat chaneel, and keep this as the offical prem and porper channel for stuff about the group?
  595. Feb 18 22:34:15 <VTguy> tysk I agree as most times I look in here there are irrelavent conversations going on
  596. Feb 18 22:34:17 <Wasp>  I think that trying to convert this IRC into a "Only talk about the geek group" is BS.  I don't work for TGG and I have no reason to dedicate my free time to talking about subjects that are deemed important by the ops.  
  597. Feb 18 22:34:20 <tysk>  Because we've been trying to get people's attention and nothing happens. ;)
  598. Feb 18 22:34:25 <Captain>       *throws a chair across the room*
  599. Feb 18 22:34:27 <Captain>       Gentlemen.
  600. Feb 18 22:34:32 <VTguy> Captain I hear you
  601. Feb 18 22:34:32 <Aussie50>      I am not opposed to people asking for time to talk, I am STRONGLY opposed to the strong hand approach that will loosew TGG a lot of members
  602. Feb 18 22:34:35 <chad>  ?
  603. Feb 18 22:34:36 <Sudos> OW
  604. Feb 18 22:34:36 <Captain>       Shut the fuck up, please.
  605. Feb 18 22:34:37 <HVGeek>        yes captain
  606. Feb 18 22:34:38 ---     MattressKitten sets mode +m #thegeekgroup
  607. Feb 18 22:34:39 <Captain>       Thank you.
  608. Feb 18 22:34:46 -->     Treehouseman (~LunaPi@hgt-859-803-477-453.carolina.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  609. Feb 18 22:35:00 <Captain>       Aussie50, you will have your own room here, a dedicated channel in which you will be a moderator.
  610. Feb 18 22:35:05 ---     MattressKitten sets mode -m #thegeekgroup
  611. Feb 18 22:35:11 <Captain>       You will not be a moderator in any other channels.
  612. Feb 18 22:35:18 -->     JeriTyler (~Jerico@763-27-33-228-vtfuulwm.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  613. Feb 18 22:35:18 ---     ChanServ gives voice to JeriTyler
  614. Feb 18 22:35:24 <jkl>   Captain: I'll provide whatever setup assistance he needs.
  615. Feb 18 22:35:25 <Captain>       In your room, you will control the discussion, and set the overall tone.
  616. Feb 18 22:35:45 <Aussie50>      fuck that, all geeks should be united!. FREE THE GEEK
  617. Feb 18 22:35:47 <LemMinG>       Captain, you do realise if he's in here, people are going to talk to him?
  618. Feb 18 22:35:51 <Max_Marz>      Anyone can have their own room and moderate it too
  619. Feb 18 22:35:53 <Captain>       It's your room, your call, and so long as it meets our overall basic rules for decorum, I don't give a shit.
  620. Feb 18 22:36:08 <tysk>  Do you really think we're trying to say people can't talk to each other?
  621. Feb 18 22:36:13 <Captain>       Doogie, the same offer goes to you.
  622. Feb 18 22:36:14 <Aussie50>      I do not give a shit about moderation, I have never shut down a legitimate geek topic in the main chennel
  623. Feb 18 22:36:14 <MattressKitten>        guys, i don't want to have to put the room back into +m.
  624. Feb 18 22:36:21 <Aussie50>      so mamking a new one will make no difference
  625. Feb 18 22:36:24 <Aussie50>      *making
  626. Feb 18 22:36:41 <Nick1296|E6540>        It kind of does. You and your followers have it and they don't litter this up
  627. Feb 18 22:36:49 <Captain>       What I'm doing is giving you each your own official space so that the overall S/N ratio of the main room gets back under control.
  628. Feb 18 22:37:05 ---     talos sets mode +m #thegeekgroup
  629. Feb 18 22:37:13 <talos> lets let the man finish
  630. Feb 18 22:38:00 <Captain>       There will be other rule updates, but that is something that has to be discussed with the mods and the board before they go public. They will be communicated to the membership when they are done.
  631. Feb 18 22:38:00 <Aussie50>      Captain, I can make my own room whenever I want, its just not needed when there is a great and friendly place like TGG IRC
  632. Feb 18 22:38:29 <Captain>       Ed, are you following anything I'm saying at all sir?
  633. Feb 18 22:38:41 <Aussie50>      yes SIR I am
  634. Feb 18 22:38:45 <Captain>       I know you can create your own room, I get that.
  635. Feb 18 22:39:06 <Captain>       I'm telling you that your presence in this room tends to dominate shit, and that's getting in the way of me doing my job.
  636. Feb 18 22:39:09 -->     eadthem (~eadthem@mqn-58-27-21-3.kc.res.rr.com) has joined #thegeekgroup
  637. Feb 18 22:39:32 <Aussie50>      I have enough servers, routers etc to make my own freakin company if I want, I am noyt getting stuffed into a backroom by sombody I did my absolute best to support over the years
  638. Feb 18 22:39:34 <Captain>       So, I'm being gracious and giving you a better space to have your online existence in here so as to not cock up the works.
  639. Feb 18 22:39:54 *       Aussie50 officially resigns as IRC Op, sombody remove my Op privelage
  640. Feb 18 22:40:08 ---     talos removes channel operator status from Aussie50
  641. Feb 18 22:40:24 <MattressKitten>        ed, /cycle
  642. Feb 18 22:40:29 <--     Aussie50 (~Ed@hmq-457-414-596-454.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) has left #thegeekgroup
  643. Feb 18 22:40:30 -->     Aussie50 (~Ed@hmq-457-414-596-454.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) has joined #thegeekgroup
  644. Feb 18 22:40:30 ---     ChanServ gives channel operator status to Aussie50
  645. Feb 18 22:40:34 <Captain>       Ed, you're letting your ego hit overdrive and cloud your judgement, one of the nice things about text based communication is that it gives you time to think about what you're saying before you do something you may later regret. I would use that.
  646. Feb 18 22:40:35 <Aussie50>      thankyou talos
  647. Feb 18 22:40:40 <MattressKitten>        talos, you don't have hat. one moment.
  648. Feb 18 22:41:07 -->     Obliterous (~Obliterou@131.107.xon.uyr) has joined #thegeekgroup
  649. Feb 18 22:41:08 ---     ChanServ gives channel operator status to Obliterous
  650. Feb 18 22:41:12 <Aussie50>      Captain, I just hope one day TGG sorts itself out
  651. Feb 18 22:41:36 <Captain>       I'm working like hell to sort it out right now, and I'm not alone in this. The IRC staff stands with me on this issue.
  652. Feb 18 22:41:43 -ChanServ/#thegeekgroup-        MattressKitten (CaptainNiobe) deleted Aussie50 from the access list (had role: AOP).
  653. Feb 18 22:41:43 ---     ChanServ removes channel operator status from Aussie50
  654. Feb 18 22:42:00 <MattressKitten>        ed, please /cycle
  655. Feb 18 22:42:22 <Captain>       Now if you want to get butthurt and be pissed at me for trying to clean up the mess that the IRC currently is, that's fine. But I'm doing what I believe is best for my company, because that's my job.
  656. Feb 18 22:42:24 <--     Aussie50 (~Ed@hmq-457-414-596-454.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) has left #thegeekgroup
  657. Feb 18 22:42:24 -->     Aussie50 (~Ed@hmq-457-414-596-454.lnse1.win.bigpond.net.au) has joined #thegeekgroup
  658. Feb 18 22:42:30 ---     MattressKitten sets mode -m #thegeekgroup
  659. Feb 18 22:42:32 <LemMinG>       you know what, fuck this. I'm out. I totally do not agree with these ppolicy changes and will be staying out of the main room for at least the next couple of days. These policy changes are only going to negatively affect the free flow of discussion in here, and negatively affect the image that people see of the group. When discussion is controled, it suffers. you are all welcome to join
  660. Feb 18 22:42:32 <LemMinG>       me in #notopic or #tgg:nsfw if you feel the same.
  661. Feb 18 22:42:37 <--     LemMinG (~lem@173.246.iul.oug) has left #thegeekgroup
  662. Feb 18 22:42:51 <--     Jessica_T has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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  664. Feb 18 22:43:02 <MattressKitten>        bad time to remove +m. -_-
  665. Feb 18 22:43:11 <NightWolfx03>  I swear I was registered ?
  666. Feb 18 22:43:14 <Captain>       Wow, I'd love to know exactly what I did that impacted his asshole so firmly.
  667. Feb 18 22:43:24 <tysk>  Apparently people think we aren't going to let people talk, ever.
  668. Feb 18 22:43:28 <Max_Marz>      I dont think its a mess, I have not seen any of this behaviour and this will not change my protocol in the irc, if I talk about ed and doogie too much then ban me.
  669. Feb 18 22:43:55 <cheese>        you've pissed off a significant portion of your membership
  670. Feb 18 22:43:55 <callitacomeb_WDH8294>  Mr Captain, P. Gilmore. i leave this irc on startup for technical advice on hydraulics for my crab operation and electrics for my technicians cert, can i confidently remain on this irc without breaching policy?
  671. Feb 18 22:44:04 <Captain>       Max, despite your being an impressivly uppity cunt this evening, and practicly begging for me to ban you, I haven't. Chill out.
  672. Feb 18 22:44:35 <VTguy> I am happy this is happening as I was tired of all the bs in here
  673. Feb 18 22:44:40 <Max_Marz>      Making it formally known by the public how I intend to proceed, that is all.
  674. Feb 18 22:44:40 <eggman9713>    I'm going to let this sink in over my weekend vacation and see what happens. But my eyebrow is currently in an elevated position in the meantime.
  675. Feb 18 22:44:45 <Captain>       callitacomeb_WDH8294 (jesus that's hard to type), of course, everyone is welcome here....and.....you have crabs?
  676. Feb 18 22:44:57 <Nick1296|E6540>        The BS is why I stayed out for a little bit.
  677. Feb 18 22:45:02 <MadManMarkAu>  Captain: Type call<tab>
  678. Feb 18 22:45:10 <callitacomeb_WDH8294>  yes i will give you all crabs
  679. Feb 18 22:45:12 <KC>    your face will stick that way eggman9713
  680. Feb 18 22:45:16 <tysk>  That tab function was my best IRC discovery ever.
  681. Feb 18 22:45:16 <MattressKitten>        Captain, protip: tab key. callitacomeb_WDH8294 is as easy as typing ca then hitting tab.
  682. Feb 18 22:45:25 <Captain>       And now I know.
  683. Feb 18 22:45:30 *       HaxtorMoogle quietly puts the chair that captain threw back when no one is looking ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
  684. Feb 18 22:45:32 <NightWolfx03>  Ans knowledge is power ?
  685. Feb 18 22:45:46 <Captain>       We are here for the members, we are here for the fans and the other assorted weirdos that wish to be in this space.
  686. Feb 18 22:45:50 *       tysk sits on chair
  687. Feb 18 22:45:53 <callitacomeb_WDH8294>  i have crabs cause im friends wif max
  688. Feb 18 22:45:54 <AgentX>        HaxtorMoogle:  lol
  689. Feb 18 22:46:00 <eggman9713>    As FDR said, "What we need now is a good drink."
  690. Feb 18 22:46:03 <callitacomeb_WDH8294>  <3
  691. Feb 18 22:46:04 <Captain>       We are here to WORK TOGETHER to solve problems and be involved in things that none of us on our own could ever dream to build.
  692. Feb 18 22:46:05 <Aussie50>      Captain, then why do you seek to cut out half of them
  693. Feb 18 22:46:13 <Captain>       That is why this place exists.
  694. Feb 18 22:46:29 <doogielabs>    Right?
  695. Feb 18 22:46:30 <Aussie50>      just because I log info on how I am going with a project, does not mean people are not interested
  696. Feb 18 22:46:54 -->     goolic (~goolic@187.123.qqw.jwo) has joined #thegeekgroup
  697. Feb 18 22:47:03 <Aussie50>      geeks come from all around, god knows I have sent a LOT here over the years, and if you want to throw that away, then so be it
  698. Feb 18 22:47:05 <Captain>       Because if half of the people here, are only here because YOU are here, and all they want to do is hang out with YOU and not participate in the Group, they are not worth having.
  699. Feb 18 22:47:09 <eggman9713>    Aussie50, I think you are rushing to judgment a bit. And I say that as a fan of yours.
  700. Feb 18 22:47:14 <Mule>  yes ... 1% of the population here creates discussion.  9% add to it.  
  701. Feb 18 22:47:14 <Mule>  Just feels like you're trying to kill off that 1% and a couple of the 9%'ers.
  702. Feb 18 22:47:19 <NightWolfx03>  Ugh.. see now I'm lost becuase I had to give someone a ride to work again x_x  I'm not sure what all I am stepping into, be please if it's needed someone brief me via pm etc ?
  703. Feb 18 22:47:19 <Aussie50>      Captain, so its bad for buisiness then
  704. Feb 18 22:47:22 <Captain>       Understnd that, I don't care if you bring in 50,000 people that are all your fans.
  705. Feb 18 22:47:25 <APotato>       I normally don't pick sides, but this time i have to go with the captain
  706. Feb 18 22:47:39 <Captain>       I care that you bring in 10 actual people who give a shit about the Group and want to get involved.
  707. Feb 18 22:47:41 <Aussie50>      this is about buisiness is all its about, not geeks and wierdo's
  708. Feb 18 22:47:47 <Captain>       You fans are useless here.
  709. Feb 18 22:47:49 <kb3pxr|tab>    What Captain is trying to say is we need unity and sometimes things get out of hand
  710. Feb 18 22:47:52 <vanjan>        Captain, I would have to disagree with that. What he is discusing is simply the most intresting thins to discus at the time
  711. Feb 18 22:47:58 <chad>  command rules are fine with me
  712. Feb 18 22:48:13 <Aussie50>      yeh so they are not an asset to the company and need to go
  713. Feb 18 22:48:20 <tysk>  I do believe you are rushing to a conclusion, Ed.
  714. Feb 18 22:48:24 <cheese>        Captain> You fans are useless here. so his fans are incapable of assisting tgg members with whatever they happen to be experts at?
  715. Feb 18 22:48:24 <Aussie50>      okay I will put out a notice
  716. Feb 18 22:48:29 <eggman9713>    Does that mean I have to go then? Because I am a fan of Aussie50? You just said we were useless.
  717. Feb 18 22:48:33 <Captain>       They are either an asset, or a liability. I don't collect liabilities.
  718. Feb 18 22:48:38 <Aussie50>      recalling all fans who are not fanboys of Boden or TGG
  719. Feb 18 22:48:49 <Aussie50>      thats fine Captain
  720. Feb 18 22:48:51 <tysk>  Aussie50: You are acting very whiny and irrationally right now.
  721. Feb 18 22:48:52 <Aussie50>      this convo is over
  722. Feb 18 22:48:53 <talos> holy shit is everyone ever rushing to conclusions.  
  723. Feb 18 22:48:54 <--     Aussie50 has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  724. Feb 18 22:49:01 <NightWolfx03>  O.o
  725. Feb 18 22:49:02 <KC>    I never rush
  726. Feb 18 22:49:02 <talos> lmfao
  727. Feb 18 22:49:05 <talos> oh wow
  728. Feb 18 22:49:08 <callitacomeb_WDH8294>  THIS INTERVIEW IS TERMINATED
  729. Feb 18 22:49:09 <doogielabs>    There is an IRC channel over on freenode, the room name is doogielabs. We can have more open discussion there, and keep this room and server clean. I encourage everyone to still stay here and not choose sides.
  730. Feb 18 22:49:09 <--     callitacomeb_WDH8294 has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  731. Feb 18 22:49:17 <Monkeh>        tysk: Because nobody else does that.
  732. Feb 18 22:49:34 <VTguy> aussie50 lost any respect I had there
  733. Feb 18 22:49:35 <Captain>       I've made myself clear, I've said my piece. It's all yours now.
  734. Feb 18 22:49:41 <tysk>  I do wish it would be possible to make a statement and have it taken at face value, that'd be neat.
  735. Feb 18 22:49:43 <cheese>        Captain, your whole lab is full of liabilities!
  736. Feb 18 22:49:46 <eggman9713>    I'm going to have to agree. I think Aussie50 just really overreacted.
  737. Feb 18 22:49:47 <Max_Marz>      the way I see it this changes nothing
  738. Feb 18 22:49:58 <eggman9713>    I am surprised at that behavior for him.
  739. Feb 18 22:50:12 <Captain>       Max, you are (oddly enough) correct, and yet, watch the shitstorm.....
  740. Feb 18 22:50:26 -->     Jessica_T (~kvirc@btkk-64-689-638-196.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  741. Feb 18 22:50:35 <eggman9713>    Anyway, I have dinner to eat. I'll be back in a bit but I'll be packing for my trip.
  742. Feb 18 22:50:44 <tysk>  Where are you going?
  743. Feb 18 22:50:49 <VTguy> eggman9713 ego its all the ego on aussie50
  744. Feb 18 22:50:51 <eggman9713>    Dallas, TX.
  745. Feb 18 22:50:53 <Max_Marz>      I mean if you are gonna take direct action you probbably would have given whomever a warning >this or have done it already soooooo
  746. Feb 18 22:50:55 <tysk>  Fun! :)
  747. Feb 18 22:51:00 <eggman9713>    Furry Fiesta this weekend!
  748. Feb 18 22:51:02 <AgentX>        Captain: am I correct that if I don’t get why this became an issue I probably havent contribuited to it?
  749. Feb 18 22:51:08 <Captain>       All Iv'e done in express my dissatisfaction with the current state of the IRC. And I just watched half a dozen egos flare into supernova.
  750. Feb 18 22:51:12 <tysk>  That's a good guess AgentX :)
  751. Feb 18 22:51:14 <HVGeek>        eggman9713 : i live in dallas
  752. Feb 18 22:51:20 <Wasp>  Captain, Including your own
  753. Feb 18 22:51:22 <Jdbmanalo>     eggman, I live in ft worth, maybe we can mee up over a beer?
  754. Feb 18 22:51:25 <Captain>       AgentX, you're fine. I don't even know who you are.
  755. Feb 18 22:51:30 <NightWolfx03>  All I know that I can say, is I came here following ed and doogie, and you captured my imagination, and frankly I became a donator. I don't know the whole story of what's going on and I don't plan really dig. But I can;t help but feel a tad awkward at the moment lol
  756. Feb 18 22:51:39 <VTguy> Wasp rightfully so
  757. Feb 18 22:51:52 <Monkeh>        Captain: All you've done after flaring your own and killing the stream and closing the channel, even temporarily.
  758. Feb 18 22:51:57 <eggman9713>    I will be at the con full time over the weekend so unless you can come to the con I won't be available.
  759. Feb 18 22:51:58 <jkl>   NightWolfx03: you arent allowed to go. *cling*
  760. Feb 18 22:52:08 <cheese>        i have nothing constructive to add if you won't take our objections seriously
  761. Feb 18 22:52:11 <NightWolfx03>  I'm not planning on leaving.
  762. Feb 18 22:52:18 <Max_Marz>      Ok you have a pretty massive ego too chris, jussayin
  763. Feb 18 22:52:21 <jkl>   yay wuffie.
  764. Feb 18 22:52:26 <chad>  goes the same with  me  but i''am not going any where
  765. Feb 18 22:52:27 <tysk>  cheese: What are your objections?
  766. Feb 18 22:52:29 <AgentX>        Jdbmanalo: eggman9713: dallas here also
  767. Feb 18 22:52:49 <tysk>  NightWolfx03: Anybody who wants to participate here is welcome.
  768. Feb 18 22:52:53 <eggman9713>    Anyway, dinner time.
  769. Feb 18 22:53:01 <gtr>   I am not going anywhere.
  770. Feb 18 22:53:04 <VTguy> good eats eggman9713
  771. Feb 18 22:53:14 <tysk>  My dinner tonight was pudding.
  772. Feb 18 22:53:24 <KC>    Mmmmmm
  773. Feb 18 22:53:32 <HVGeek>        tysk : tasty
  774. Feb 18 22:53:51 <tysk>  It was strawberry cheescake. Did not taste like cheesecake.
  775. Feb 18 22:54:03 <KC>    How about strawberry? lol
  776. Feb 18 22:54:12 <AgentX>        dinner here was 4 cheese tortellini in a blush bacon sauce
  777. Feb 18 22:54:13 <tysk>  It did taste kind of pink-like
  778. Feb 18 22:54:19 <Jdbmanalo>     well, that escalated very quickly when it didn't need to escalate at all.
  779. Feb 18 22:54:33 <KC>    It tasted like tofu and soy sauce :P
  780. Feb 18 22:54:59 -->     Nedkelly-MBP (~Nedkelly@119.224.go.igs) has joined #thegeekgroup
  781. Feb 18 22:54:59 <cheese>        tysk, 2 things. 1) Several of us feel like the primary purpose of the irc from your point of view is fundraising. Those of us that feel that way think that parts 1 and 2 of chris' stated purposes for the IRC are met daily, 2) we're all upset because you created a place for geeks like us to get together and discuss what we find interesting and help eachother and then throw chairs and shut it all down instead of setting +m and
  782. Feb 18 22:54:59 <cheese>        addressing the problem directly
  783. Feb 18 22:54:59 <tysk>  Yeah, it really rocketed there.
  784. Feb 18 22:55:00 *       KC envies AgentX's dinner
  785. Feb 18 22:55:07 -->     vk3tlw_work (~markd@202.127.mhx.o) has joined #thegeekgroup
  786. Feb 18 22:55:08 ---     ChanServ gives voice to vk3tlw_work
  787. Feb 18 22:55:16 <Nedkelly-MBP>  well that was new
  788. Feb 18 22:55:19 <Monkeh>        It was set up to escalate
  789. Feb 18 22:55:24 <Treehouseman>  ^
  790. Feb 18 22:55:26 <Nedkelly-MBP>  required to be registered now?
  791. Feb 18 22:55:35 <AgentX>        KC: it’s easy want the recipie in a pm? takes ~15 to make serves 2, great for dates…
  792. Feb 18 22:55:44 <tysk>  cheese: I'm sorry that you feel this, but you've told me this many times and I have continued to tell you that the primary function of the IRC is not fundraising. However, if we try to do other shows are ignored, it's hard to do #3.
  793. Feb 18 22:56:05 <HVGeek>        captain just to let you know im with TGG no matter what
  794. Feb 18 22:56:09 -->     chunks (~chunks@al43-110-12-012.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  795. Feb 18 22:56:16 <Max_Marz>      This sucks
  796. Feb 18 22:56:20 <--     Liny (~pink_fox@gbvy-248-25-364-344.dsl.lsan74.sbcglobal.net) has left #thegeekgroup (sad part is, i see both sides, and the way this was brought up kinda made both sides kinda go <-------> really quick, leaving everyone in a rather confused case of crosfire)
  797. Feb 18 22:56:25 <chad>  Captain:  same here
  798. Feb 18 22:56:33 <KC>    Think I can make it in the cafe kitchen? Or on a Haas? lol
  799. Feb 18 22:56:38 <Mule>  I'm a meerkat, and I don't really know anything.
  800. Feb 18 22:56:38 <cheese>        i think the issue you have with engagement on the livestream is the lack of scheduling and half the time we arne't even aware something will be happening unless it's in a blog
  801. Feb 18 22:56:39 <Sedorox>       huh, liny nailed it, imo
  802. Feb 18 22:56:42 <Max_Marz>      Thanks for driving my friends out captain
  803. Feb 18 22:56:47 <NightWolfx03>  I'll be honest, I have been jonesing for shows, and I do notice the ignored thing, but at the same time, I thin that ignored thing is a tad all around, becuase I have seen epople come try and talk and no one says a word to emm
  804. Feb 18 22:56:56 <Max_Marz>      It sucks but its what happened in the end
  805. Feb 18 22:56:58 <AgentX>        KC: yup, just need 2 burners on the stove to do it… super easy
  806. Feb 18 22:57:01 <cheese>        if i knew for certain I could tune it at a specific time to see something of a specific type i'd schedule my night around it
  807. Feb 18 22:57:12 <NightWolfx03>  I've watched people just continue to talk around everyone as of late, even during shows, that I have seen
  808. Feb 18 22:57:15 <Nedkelly-MBP>  oh good evening captain
  809. Feb 18 22:57:16 <tysk>  cheese: We have pingwords set up to notify people.
  810. Feb 18 22:57:18 <MoxieMike>     there's effectively a cook top burner at the top of the haas machines
  811. Feb 18 22:57:20 <KC>    cool sure
  812. Feb 18 22:57:35 <doogielabs>    The issue was brought too everyone's attention is a rather poor way
  813. Feb 18 22:57:40 <MattressKitten>        from everything i've been told, trying to schedule anything is a BITCH for us because there's always so much going on and changing and stuff...
  814. Feb 18 22:57:45 <tysk>  NightWolfx03: That has been part of the issue. We try to do shows, are ignored completely. We do happen to enjoy doing shows without the fundraiser being the primary purpose.
  815. Feb 18 22:57:46 <Jdbmanalo>     captain went on here earlier today and was completely ignored cuz everyone was busy talking about something else...and that was after 3 days of no-show/no-blog.  suddenly, cap wants to hang out and he's ignored.  i see where he's coming from here.
  816. Feb 18 22:57:48 <doogielabs>    *in a
  817. Feb 18 22:58:06 <HaxtorMoogle>  cheese I agree having some sort of loose schedule would be good
  818. Feb 18 22:58:07 <chad>  agreed MattressKitten
  819. Feb 18 22:58:11 <NightWolfx03>  Frankly I have been missing shows, and not evening knowing if they are happening becuase I have been giving people rides to work 2 ~ 4 times a week >.<
  820. Feb 18 22:58:16 <cheese>        pingwords won't help when i've decided to go watch startrek on the couch. (and btw, barclay was on picard's ship)
  821. Feb 18 22:58:16 <tysk>  A schedule is nearly impossible for us, as much as we try.
  822. Feb 18 22:58:31 <NightWolfx03>  I missed like the last 8 SNSE's to boot
  823. Feb 18 22:58:37 <Nedkelly-MBP>  schedule is good for those of us that are overseas
  824. Feb 18 22:58:46 <Max_Marz>      Now I gotta split between two IRC's to talk to everyone I care about
  825. Feb 18 22:58:48 <Max_Marz>      damnit
  826. Feb 18 22:58:50 <Captain>       May I have the room a moment please?
  827. Feb 18 22:58:51 <tysk>  We are *working on* a system where you can sign up to be pinged on a text message system
  828. Feb 18 22:58:57 <cheese>        i'd watch the 'regularly scheduled' viewermail if i wasn't at work during it
  829. Feb 18 22:58:57 <NightWolfx03>  eventually I hope to have my evenings to myself and be here more
  830. Feb 18 22:59:00 *       NightWolfx03 hushes
  831. Feb 18 22:59:03 <MattressKitten>        +ming...
  832. Feb 18 22:59:06 ---     MattressKitten sets mode +m #thegeekgroup
  833. Feb 18 22:59:16 <MattressKitten>        Captain, floor is yours.
  834. Feb 18 22:59:24 <Captain>       Did you just mute everyone?
  835. Feb 18 22:59:29 <Wasp>  yes
  836. Feb 18 22:59:29 ---     #thegeekgroup :Cannot send to channel
  837. Feb 18 22:59:34 <talos> fuck yes she did
  838. Feb 18 22:59:38 <talos> except admins
  839. Feb 18 22:59:42 <MattressKitten>        put the room in +m. no one bar ops and voiced can speak.
  840. Feb 18 22:59:43 <Captain>       um, can you undo that please?
  841. Feb 18 22:59:48 ---     MattressKitten sets mode -m #thegeekgroup
  842. Feb 18 22:59:58 <Nedkelly-MBP>  I miss being an IRCOP
  843. Feb 18 23:00:01 <Captain>       Thank you, don't do that, ever, unless a mod asks.
  844. Feb 18 23:00:05 <Nedkelly-MBP>  that was great fun back in the day
  845. Feb 18 23:00:30 <Captain>       ok, I have a question too big to asnwer on my own, and I need input from the world.
  846. Feb 18 23:00:31 <Obliterous>    It sure get attention to +/-m a room
  847. Feb 18 23:00:40 <VTguy> shoo Captain
  848. Feb 18 23:00:46 <VTguy> ops shoot Captain
  849. Feb 18 23:00:49 <MoxieMike>     i'm listening
  850. Feb 18 23:00:50 <KC>    lol
  851. Feb 18 23:01:14 <KC>    nice recovery VTguy :P
  852. Feb 18 23:01:25 <Nedkelly-MBP>  no audio on live stream?
  853. Feb 18 23:01:26 <VTguy> typing too fast
  854. Feb 18 23:01:35 <Jdbmanalo>     badly timed typos, always a classic.
  855. Feb 18 23:01:37 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Nedkelly-MBP, He's not talking.
  856. Feb 18 23:01:49 <Captain>       Aussie50 made quite the demonstration over the past hour, in this room, and others. I know a lot of people here are his fans and friends, so this is not something I'm going to do lightly or without serious consideration but I feel he's grown more than a little out of control in our IRC and that causes me concern.
  857. Feb 18 23:01:51 <InteliWasp>    Nedkelly-MBP, he is keeping on the irc for simplicity
  858. Feb 18 23:02:01 <Captain>       Simple yes or no, you will not be asked to justify it, I want a vote.
  859. Feb 18 23:02:10 <Captain>       Do we kickban Aussie50?
  860. Feb 18 23:02:11 <cheese>        no
  861. Feb 18 23:02:15 <kb3pxr|tab>    No
  862. Feb 18 23:02:16 <c4017> no
  863. Feb 18 23:02:16 <Treehouseman>  no
  864. Feb 18 23:02:17 <MoxieMike>     no
  865. Feb 18 23:02:17 <KC>    Nah
  866. Feb 18 23:02:18 <InteliWasp>    no
  867. Feb 18 23:02:19 <Sedorox>       no
  868. Feb 18 23:02:19 <Monkeh>        no.
  869. Feb 18 23:02:20 <Wasp>  no
  870. Feb 18 23:02:26 <Nedkelly-MBP>  no
  871. Feb 18 23:02:27 <VTguy> no loog bad on tgg
  872. Feb 18 23:02:27 <Alex993cc1>    no
  873. Feb 18 23:02:28 <radiocliff>    no
  874. Feb 18 23:02:29 <HaxtorMoogle>  schrodinger's cat captain, no
  875. Feb 18 23:02:29 <Hardies1>      no
  876. Feb 18 23:02:30 <chad>  no
  877. Feb 18 23:02:30 <MattressKitten>        no, as i believe he will not return.
  878. Feb 18 23:02:31 <gtr>   no
  879. Feb 18 23:02:38 <Mule>  yeah, no.
  880. Feb 18 23:02:39 <eggman9713>    no
  881. Feb 18 23:02:40 <OldGeek>       no
  882. Feb 18 23:02:45 <NameNotFound>  No
  883. Feb 18 23:02:54 <Jdbmanalo>     no.  let him cool down.  and explain himself when he's not so hot-headed.
  884. Feb 18 23:03:01 <InteliWasp>    ^^^^
  885. Feb 18 23:03:02 <Nedkelly-MBP>  am I allowed to ask what happened? PM is fine.
  886. Feb 18 23:03:06 <NightWolfx03>  I'd say no, I know I missed it, but anyone one can go a bit overboard at points, we know others here have before.
  887. Feb 18 23:03:19 <Treehouseman>  Though like MK said, I doubt he'll return
  888. Feb 18 23:03:22 <Monkeh>        Nedkelly-MBP: One word, attributed to multiple people: Ego.
  889. Feb 18 23:03:33 <Max_Marz>      IRC as a concept is completely moot if one member of the irc doesnt want another member of the IRC there, It is no longer a public domain and there is no longer any logical reason to have a conversation here rather than taking up any conversations with that specific person directly, does anyone else see this logic?
  890. Feb 18 23:03:35 <Nedkelly-MBP>  oh
  891. Feb 18 23:03:49 <BrefelanS>     I'd say no, cause that would provoke him to rally his followers into a hate-parade.
  892. Feb 18 23:03:51 <eggman9713>    He will either come to his senses and apologize or he will just not come back. Let's wait and see what he does.
  893. Feb 18 23:03:58 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        Here comes the ticker...
  894. Feb 18 23:04:06 <BrefelanS>     But if he doesn't calm down, hell yes
  895. Feb 18 23:04:06 <Captain>       ok, well that was really difficult to read as far as how people feel in this matter. You're all so very divided on this one.
  896. Feb 18 23:04:09 <Captain>       Thank you.
  897. Feb 18 23:04:09 <kb3pxr|tab>    eggman9713 my thoughts exactly
  898. Feb 18 23:04:14 <BrefelanS>     (pardon my language)
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  900. Feb 18 23:04:24 <Max_Marz>      What exactly does he have to be sorry for?
  901. Feb 18 23:04:25 <Captain>       Just out of curiosity, what about Max_Marz?
  902. Feb 18 23:04:35 <cheese>        no
  903. Feb 18 23:04:36 <KC>    Definitely
  904. Feb 18 23:04:39 <KC>    :P
  905. Feb 18 23:04:41 <Treehouseman>  lol
  906. Feb 18 23:04:45 <Max_Marz>      Gee thanks KC
  907. Feb 18 23:04:48 <eggman9713>    I abstain.
  908. Feb 18 23:04:49 <KC>    hehe
  909. Feb 18 23:04:54 <tysk>  Max_Marz: You are loved.
  910. Feb 18 23:05:01 <MadManMarkAu>  ^
  911. Feb 18 23:05:03 <MattressKitten>        if Max_Marz behaves himself he can stay. :P
  912. Feb 18 23:05:07 <massiveH>      I was banned, wtf?
  913. Feb 18 23:05:13 <gtr>   I vote present
  914. Feb 18 23:05:13 <Monkeh>        BrefelanS: No, I doubt he'd do a hate parade.
  915. Feb 18 23:05:16 <VTguy> i think Captain was aking him a question
  916. Feb 18 23:05:18 <Captain>       Wow are YOU late to the show.
  917. Feb 18 23:05:18 <vanjan>        no
  918. Feb 18 23:05:18 <Wasp>  massiveH, everybody was
  919. Feb 18 23:05:27 <TGG-MasterCtrl>        massiveH, No. We're putting things back together.
  920. Feb 18 23:05:29 <tysk>  We briefly closed the IRC, we're open again.
  921. Feb 18 23:05:31 <Obliterous>    massiveH: its been migraine inducing. Dont ask.
  922. Feb 18 23:05:36 <BrefelanS>     Monkeh - well maybe not as bad as Photon did
  923. Feb 18 23:05:37 <MadManMarkAu>  ^^^^
  924. Feb 18 23:05:40 <MadManMarkAu>  @ Oblit
  925. Feb 18 23:05:46 <HaxtorMoogle>  what why are we banning people now?
  926. Feb 18 23:05:48 <Max_Marz>      Anyone at all  have an answer to my question
  927. Feb 18 23:05:49 <BrefelanS>     but I do see at least his followers doing that
  928. Feb 18 23:05:54 <MattressKitten>        oh, please, don't brong up photon right now...
  929. Feb 18 23:05:58 <BrefelanS>     HaxtorMoogle - cause their big egos?
  930. Feb 18 23:05:59 <MattressKitten>        bring*
  931. Feb 18 23:06:01 <BrefelanS>     Sorry MK
  932. Feb 18 23:06:07 <VTguy> lol MattressKitten
  933. Feb 18 23:06:08 <cheese>        Max_Marz, i see nothing
  934. Feb 18 23:06:10 <Max_Marz>      It was kind of a profound level of understanding in my mind of how I feel about this situation
  935. Feb 18 23:06:19 <Max_Marz>      " IRC as a concept is completely moot if one member of the irc doesnt want another member of the IRC there, It is no longer a public domain and there is no longer any logical reason to have a conversation here rather than taking up any conversations with that specific person directly, does anyone else see this logic?"
  936. Feb 18 23:06:20 <Monkeh>        BrefelanS: Well, why would they do that? ... because someone made a big song and dance instead of just talking to him?
  937. Feb 18 23:06:24 <tysk>  The only way we could close the room was to ban everybody, it was not the most graceful.
  938. Feb 18 23:06:28 <eggman9713>    I'm going to go test my new multimeter in peace until this calms down a little more.
  939. Feb 18 23:06:31 <InteliWasp>    any posible way to get this saved for anyone else wanting to know what happened(pastebin?)?
  940. Feb 18 23:06:40 -->     callitacomeb_WDH8294 (~callitaco@d-68-24-458-02.hsd5.ca.comcast.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
  941. Feb 18 23:06:41 <Max_Marz>      I see ties to net neutrality
  942. Feb 18 23:06:48 <BrefelanS>     Monkeh - Huh? Anyways, dropping topic.
  943. Feb 18 23:06:50 <Sudos> Captain: I want to get involved more. but I'm pretty much jobless, and no one around here is fscking hiring IT with just their HS diploma. I'm a WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIA and I have the experience to back it up for the most part, but they want oooooh shiny certs that are worth nothing. monetary donations have been somewhat of a struggle for me to muster when a few extra bucks comes my way.
  944. Feb 18 23:06:51 <Sudos> but I want to. I want to so bad. I support TGG when I can, though, because I believe it's going to someday change the world for the better of all mankind. I'm one of the people Aussie50 AND doogielabs dragged in and I try to give a shit when I can. so no, I don't think a kickban would be conducive to the desired environment. sorry for the text barf.
  945. Feb 18 23:06:57 <Sudos> erhem. that took a bit to write up.
  946. Feb 18 23:07:00 <chad>  agreed tysk
  947. Feb 18 23:07:02 <eggman9713>    Net Neutrality? wtf?
  948. Feb 18 23:07:20 <Max_Marz>      Getting too philosophical...
  949. Feb 18 23:07:31 <HVGeek>        i will be back in 1 hr
  950. Feb 18 23:07:32 <tysk>  Let's not start getting political too ton
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