We should Make a VirtualDexProject channel?
14:38 zenzai we should
14:38 zenzai that talks about vdex! \o\
14:38 zenzai late
14:38 zenzai and my else melted, too, so mission accomplished. ><
14:38 zenzai eyes*
14:39 Inu If we get an OP, they can't be biased and they have to be willing to mute people or kick them if they drama start.
14:40 zenzai Lethe?
14:40 zenzai she was on here from time to time
14:40 zenzai though not that active, unfortunately ><
14:40 Inu It needs to be someone active.
14:41 zenzai yeah.  It would greatly help credibility if that someone was actually from staff
14:41 zenzai but with Lethe being the only one that even came in.. :(
14:41 Inu We could beg Ish but she's probably too busy.
14:42 zenzai ><
14:43 Volcarona ohgod
14:43   Volcarona faceplant
14:43 Volcarona I just realised
14:43 Inu ?
14:43 Volcarona okay
14:43 Volcarona biggest blonde moment ever
14:43 Volcarona I didn't realised the Lethe who came in here was the mod
14:43 Volcarona x_____x
14:43 zenzai oh. XD
14:43 zenzai it's ok
14:44 Volcarona :p
14:47 Volcarona then again
14:47 Volcarona I thought the site had one itself
14:47 Volcarona o.o
14:47 zenzai an official chat?
14:47 Volcarona yeah
14:47 zenzai No. :<
14:47 Volcarona they should have one :o
14:48 zenzai yeah
14:48 Volcarona although
14:48 Volcarona that would be a lot of people coming in the chat
14:48 Volcarona XD
14:48 zenzai and more mods
14:48 Volcarona I swear
14:48 zenzai that would be a good thing, though!
14:48 Volcarona I've only seen like 3 active ones
14:48 zenzai XD I mean, yes, some would be less than pleasant
14:48 Volcarona XD
14:48 zenzai but there are a lot that would be nice
14:48 Volcarona yeah
14:48 Volcarona has no-one talked to Shiro about it?
14:48 zenzai she has no interest
14:49 Volcarona oic
14:49 zenzai kinda -_- about it, but what can do
14:51 Inu That would  be a good idea though.
14:51 zenzai it's been brought up with her before, though
14:51 zenzai I mean, if someone could get her to care or see that it's a good idea, that'd be great
14:52 zenzai but that person is not me.  I really don't think she likes me that much. *shrug*
14:52 zenzai not that I respect her much after this incident and how she deals with disagreements with her in general
14:54 Volcarona o-o
14:54 Volcarona sorry to be a pain
14:54 Volcarona but what actually happened
14:54 Volcarona with Shiro I mean
14:54 Volcarona Not that 'incident'
14:55 Inu Maybe we should petition it?
14:55 zenzai I've disagreed with her in the past and that seems to have stuck
14:55 Volcarona oh right
14:55 zenzai I'd be up for it
14:55 Volcarona As would I.
14:56 Inu I'm a little wary to pitch it to her though, she's not keen on people disagreeing with her.
14:56 zenzai yup
14:56 zenzai and just ignores points she doesn't like/know how to respond to
14:56 Inu I love Shiro, but she can be a bitch.
14:56 zenzai I don't love her
14:56 Volcarona Never really spoken to her myself
14:56 zenzai I don't see how she can claim to have acted objectively with the incident
14:57 zenzai unless she's so lost in her own point of view that she can't see that she wasn't
14:57 Volcarona all she did was ban >_>
14:57   Inu puts on helmet
14:57 zenzai without listening to both sides of the story
14:57 Volcarona nothing objectively about that
14:57   Volcarona puts on a Rocky Helmet
14:58 zenzai she basically took the side of the people she liked, while excluding any possibilities but their side of the story, and acting accordingly
14:58 Inu I didn't see it happen, but that is how it seems to me so far as well.
14:58 Volcarona I have no idea what happened so I'll just watch :x
14:59 zenzai Safer there. :3
14:59 Volcarona xD
15:00 Volcarona but if that's the case
15:00 Volcarona it's just a chat
15:00 Volcarona I don't see why people would be against it
15:00 Volcarona o-o
15:00 Inu Chats are nice though.
15:00 Volcarona ...well people being SHiro
15:00 Volcarona Shiro*
15:00 zenzai they are, when there's no drama. c:
15:00 Inu She doesn't want the responsibility of modding it and it's not official Vdex.
15:00 zenzai so much faster and sometimes more personable than pm-chats
15:01 zenzai she needs more mods, anyway, though. :<
15:01 Volcarona i guess
15:01 Volcarona :/
15:01 zenzai so training a couple and putting one on guard duty with Lethe shouldn't be too bad
15:01 Inu Though, if she wanted to use that argument to say it has to be official; the thing between cat and Steff wasn't on the Vdex site for the most part.
15:02 zenzai right.
15:02 Volcarona Wow I've missed a lot
15:02 Volcarona o-o
15:02 Inu Though, a petition would be hard because it would preferebly need to be on Vdex and I have a feeling that she'd lock it.
15:02 zenzai I'd link you to the thread and stuff in question, but it's been moved to a locked forum. ><
15:03 Volcarona oic :x
15:03 Volcarona Can I ask what happened... if it's not too long :x
15:03 zenzai um, so you know how cat talked a lot about having sex with nick after he went to visit her?
15:03 Volcarona vaguely
15:04 Volcarona Cat = Swadloon, right
15:04 Inu Two people got in an argument. One was too open about stuff, another was concerned and didn't want to take it to her so she asked Vdex in SRZ business without putting a name.
15:04 Inu A name got released, they both fought. People joined in the argument and started telling Shiro. One got banned, the other didn't.
15:04 zenzai the thing is, from stuff posted in the chat, stef's concerns were perfectly legitimate as I saw her post them
15:04 zenzai and I felt guilty, since the rest of us were basically enabling her, while Stef was the only one worried about her well-being
15:05 Volcarona o-o
15:05 Volcarona I see
15:05 Volcarona Person who got banned wasn't Cat or Steff, right? o-o
15:06   *** Volcarona is now known as Samoo
15:06 Inu Shiro took it as Steff being a bitch by sharing her private life. The thing is, Cat shared it and Steff just asked what to do because she was worried. Cat was the person who revealed it was her bieing talked about.
15:06 zenzai I mean, making the thread was ill-advised, but, she realized that after she did it. ><
15:06 Inu Which is partially my fault.
15:07 Inu I was on the phone with her when she did it and I couldn't give her any advice since she was scared to confront Cat in fear that she'd over-react. I told her to go ahead with it so long as she didn't put a name,
15:07 zenzai how is it your fault, though? :<
15:07 zenzai O. ><
15:07 Inu She was torn on doing it so I made the final choice. I didn't know Cat enough to really be enough help.
15:08 zenzai You meant well, though. :<
15:08 Samoo Steff = Chai right o-o
15:08 zenzai no
15:08 zenzai Megan = chai
15:08 Samoo ohright