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- Lets start off with a simple table of contents:
- 1. A little introduction to Amazon’s flagging system and how to not get linked.
- 2. Replacing, Double dipping, and Refunding your orders.
- 3. Cancelling investigations.
- 4. Working via Live Chat vs Phoning Amazon
- 5. Finding Drops
- 6. Using Amazon Gift Vouchers
- 7. Un-blacklisting your address
- 8. Extra Information, important
- 9. The absolute last card you can play with, the last thing you can do to get your money back after a ban.
- 10. Using VPN
- 11. Making a Stealth Account
- Amazon’s flagging system.
- Okay, so as some of you might have heard, amazon has a flagging system. There are three flags you can
- receive, those will be automatically placed on your account by amazon’s fraud detection system. It’s a simple
- system really; let me break it down for you.
- The Yellow Flag
- This flag is automatically placed on your account after a refund higher than $100 is requested.
- The Orange Flag
- Okay, so imagine you’ve refunded a $100 item and you try to refund another item of lower cost
- or higher within a 7 day period of the first refund. That is when the orange flag is placed on
- your account. Once it’s there, your account automatically gets looked into by the Amazon CIS
- team. Those people are probably most educated out of the whole amazon support team and they will find all
- the links you to your other accounts which you may have left behind. If they determine that you constantly
- abuse their policies, they will blacklist the following:
- -your IP address, -your Payment Card information (including the billing address), -your delivery address, -your
- phone number and your browser information such as cookies and possibly your MAC address (some say that
- amazon can also see your MAC address but there is no proof as to whether this is true or not)
- The Red Flag
- Amazon’s final and deadliest flag. So imagine you you refunded more than one $100 item within a 7-day timeframe.
- Now, one of the two things can happen:
- 1.If your account was not linked to any other account closed for whatever reason, had lots of legit orders and was
- relatively old, the CIS team will send you an email notifying you that they’ve noticed a high amount of returns/refunds
- on your account. Treat this as a warning; wipe the account clean and open a fresh one but make sure to open it from a
- brand new IP. I recommend creating it from a different computer altogether due to the fact that it’s clear whether they
- can actually see your MAC address or not. You can also spoof it but that is for you to research. For the less bright ones,
- let me spoon feed you, child. http://lmgtfy.com/?q...address changer
- 2. If your account was found to be linked to any other account closed for abuse of policies, you will automatically be
- blacklisted. What this means is that Amazon will close any account containing the information you have used on your
- closed account. There are good news and there are bad news!
- Good news: There are things you can do to outsmart amazon’s linking system. That being said, being blacklisted is a pain
- in the arse and you will most likely need to order a new payment card. Call up your bank and report your card as lost or
- broken and they should send you a brand new one. You will need to use a good VPN or order from a friends house, a
- library or any other place that doesn’t use your banned IP address. As doe the shipping address, you will need to use a
- typo. Simply misspell your address. For example, instead of 12 Bakery Street, put 12 Bake St. They will still deliver since
- they go by the postcode. That being said, Amazon might still close your account because your billing address cannot be
- misspelt or the order wont go through so there is a 50/50 chance that they will or they wont. I’d recommend that you
- pay with amazon credit or a VCC instead of your actual card.
- Replacing, Double Dipping and Refunding your order.
- There is a lot of methods to replace, double dip and refund your items. I will only go over some of
- those, but please try to make your own, unique excuses and those will grant you a higher success rate.
- if you are a new account, then I would recommend to refund under 100 dollars. I am unsure whether this is true
- or not but Darmasus (an ex amazon employee) said that If you call in to Amazon and get Philipinos you have
- the BEST chance at success, they have a base out of Manyla and those guys give you refunds of up to 800
- dollars. If you get someone in South America, they can refund up to 250 dollars, anything above that they need
- the Supervisors account password to input into their system so they can go over that limit, of course the
- supervisor will ask them why they are refunding so much and you have to give a really good background.
- 1. Empty Box Method
- Being the most well known method, its success rate is still pretty high. All you have to do is simply contact
- Amazon and say that the box you had received was empty. It’s important to mention that the box was in a
- perfect condition and was unopened since this will most likely allow you to dodge an investigation. If the rep is
- being a bitch, simply disconnect the chat before it goes too far and he launches an investigation. It is important
- to do this because reps can’t start investigations if they don’t have sufficient information about the case.
- 2. Item never arrived
- This method is definitely trickier to pull off than saying that the box was empty, but it is doable and still has a
- high success rate. Please notice that you should only do this if the package was signed in a name that is
- different to what is should be signed as. What you need to say is that you never received the package and that
- you’re very, very pissed off because you need the item for tomorrow for whatever reason. I find birthdays to be
- a good excuse.
- 3. Part of the item wasn’t in the parcel
- If you order an item that comes in multiple pieces, you simply have to say that one of the pieces was not
- included in the package and you can’t find it on amazon store. They will usually offer to replace the whole order
- and all you have to do is either agree and then apply one of the above methods in order to double dip or you
- agree and call them back saying that you want a refund instead.
- 4. Dangerous substance leak
- If your item contains a battery, say that the battery was leaking upon opening the parcel and you need
- replacement. If you ask them for a refund, they will get suspicious so it is always better to call back and say
- that you have changed your mind. You can also order like a nail with the item and say that it spilled all over the
- box. If they ask you to return the defective product, simply say that you had to throw it away because you have
- kids or animals in the house and you didn’t want anyone to get hurt. You can also say that sending the item
- back is illegal since it’s a biohazard. The rep should fuck off and give in :)
- Double Dipping is simple. All you need to do is simply choose a replacement instead of a refund and
- then apply another method. Double dipping really isn’t as difficult as people make it out to be. But
- please be aware that it’s best to keep it under $500 when you DD. Triple Dip the item if you want a
- challenge but be reasonable!
- Drops
- Look up your local housing agencies and see which houses are up for sale (unoccupied) you can also
- go to shops and tell the shop keepers that your family member sent you a parcel and put the wrong
- address on it (the shop's address) they should agree to accept the parcel for you. You can also have
- the item delivered to your neighbours and once you see the tracking, call the carrier and reroute or
- ask for an approximate time so you can stand outside and wait. Be creative! You can go on craigslist
- and put up an ad asking for an address to which your parcels can be delivered for a fee, of course.
- Cancelling investigations.
- Not many people know this, but you can actually close investigations that are in progress. All
- you have to do is call Amazon and tell them that you would like to close any investigations
- going on, on your account. Act confused and say that you don’t want them to waste their time
- since your problem was already solved and it turned out that your wife/husband was pranking
- you and took the item out of the box while you were at work. Say that they didn’t realise you
- would react so quickly and that you just don’t want to waste their time which could be spent
- trying to help users who are actually in need.
- Quote
- Important! If there is a possibility of your account being linked, contact them again as soon as
- you can and speak to another rep, just don’t mention ever speaking to them before and they
- might not look at the notes and just instantly refund you :) Don’t let the investigation finish
- because you WILL be banned and left in a difficult situation.
- Live Chat vs Phone Support
- It’s always important to to know that calling Amazon instead of using live chat will grant you a much higher
- chance of success. Calling a rep puts them at a much higher pressure than if you were to simply chat with
- them. When you call them, they are much less likely to go through the notes left by other reps and they are
- more likely to refund you. Live chat is good but not nearly as good as calling them. Also, please remember that
- the reps can see what you are typing before you even send the message. Don’t change your story halfway
- through the paragraph because they will see it and they will become sceptical. You can use this to your
- advantage! Curse at them, show them your frustration but don’t send the message and they will notice that you
- are trying to be polite despite all that frustration.
- Using Amazon Gift Cards
- Using amazon gift cards to purchase through amazon is one of the best things you can do for yourself, but only
- if you’re a person with common sense. Not only will this allow you to keep your own address safe because you
- won’t have to risk it getting blacklisted but it can also help you bypass the address blacklist. You will also be
- able to receive instant refunds so there will be no waiting for your bank to clear the payment and you will be
- able to transfer AGC from one account to account by simply telling amazon that you would like to send the
- credit as a gift for a family member. It’s not hard to think of the most basic of excuses. You can purchase AGC
- off Amazon, Ebay and a variety of other websites out there :) The one drawback is that you can lose the AGC if
- the account gets banned but it shouldn’t happen if you play it smart. You will most likely be able to have the
- AGC with your remaining balance send to your address or by email if you’re persistent enough.
- Please note that Amazon now tracks purchases made with gift cards meaning that Amazon
- can see all the items purchased with the AGC and will eventually ban you so try to make as
- much out of it as you can so you don’t cry when you get banned. Also, Amazon will ask you
- to add a payment card to the account in order to verify the account before you can purchase
- using your AGC. Simply go on FakeNameGenerator and use one of their cards to verify.
- Unblacklisting Your Address
- In theory, un-blacklisting your address shouldn’t be hard at all. Thing is… Amazon is one of those companies
- that simply don’t give two fucks. Despite all that, it’s still worth trying so here it is:
- Create a brand new account from a computer an an IP address that isn’t your own and order something using
- an unused payment card or a $10 AGC and put the delivery address as the one which is blacklisted. Your
- amazon account should get banned in no time so call them up and say that you’ve just moved in and tried to
- make an order but it didn’t go through and you’re confused as to why that is. They will either un-blacklist your
- address or tell you that there isn’t anything they can do. Be persistent and see where it gets you.
- Extra Information
- As I said, if you Live Chat Amazon, the reps can see what you are typing before you even send the
- message so be careful.
- Be persistent! Don’t take no for an answer.
- -If you’re making a second attempt via the phone line, increase your chances by saying that a member
- of staff has promised they would process a refund but you didn’t receive any email confirmations so
- you’re worried.
- Use tragedy to your advantage. Say things like ‘’Hello, I ordered an item and [your excuse] it was
- supposed to be a birthday present for my great grand dad but unfortunately he passed away. I’m
- completely and utterly devastated [mention how deeply it affected you] and today this happened…
- amazon is adding one more problem which i have to deal with. I just wan this to be over’’
- - Make yourself look like a legit customer by viewing lots of items before you purchase. Spending
- time on the amazon website will decrease your chance of being investigated or placed on hold.
- - Add add three or four small items to your order to decrease your chance of getting investigated
- and increase your chance of success; it’s a must!
- Bottom line is, be CREATIVE and play with their emotions :)
- The absolutely last card you can play to get your money back if
- banned.
- So you got cornered. Amazon banned you before you could refund and they refuse to return you the
- money huh? there is one last thing you can do before you sink! Call up your bank and explain how
- amazon banned you and is refusing to return you the money you paid them despite the fact that they
- sent you an empty box. Banks are obligated to stand by you if the retailer didn’t fulfil their part of the
- transaction. I dealt with a few cases which people asked me to win over for them and i always got
- them their money back so now you see that persistence is the key! Depending on the value of the
- transaction, Amazon might write to the bank and try to fight back but stick to your story and they don’t
- stand a chance!
- Using a VPN(NOT GOOD ANYMORE)
- Using a VPN or a Proxy can save you from getting linked but only if you use a premium VPN
- service. Amazon detects and compares the Geographical Location in relation to your address.
- If the IP you are using is from the same state or city as your shipping address, no flag will be
- raised but it isn’t, a flag is raised and while it might not be enough to have your order
- cancelled, it can lead to your account getting suspended or terminated later on.
- The VPN market is rather huge and we now have a variety of VPN services to choose from. It
- is important that you choose a VPN which does not keep logs; the best one i have used would
- be either HotSpot Shield and CyberGhost.
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