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- Nov 05 10:16:38 <Koala> duplex: let's make a boku no pico AV1 encode
- Nov 05 10:16:48 <Nep_Blanc> ehhh
- Nov 05 10:16:57 <Nep_Blanc> AV1 is that even out yet?
- Nov 05 10:17:09 <Nep_Blanc> netflix has the say in that right
- Nov 05 10:17:20 <Nep_Blanc> and if it does not suffice it does not get released or something
- Nov 05 10:17:21 <Koala> nobody is quite sure. Soft bitstream freeze was supposed to be a few days ago, but nobody knows what soft bitstream freeze means
- Nov 05 10:17:28 <Koala> no
- Nov 05 10:17:34 <Nep_Blanc> oh ok
- Nov 05 10:17:37 <Koala> AV1 is developed by a whole lot of corps
- Nov 05 10:17:52 <Nep_Blanc> well soft bitstream release seems a beta in my eyes
- Nov 05 10:17:58 <Nep_Blanc> a public test beta
- Nov 05 10:18:03 <Koala> Alliance for Open Media, AOM, which includes Netflix, Amazon, Mozilla, Xiph, Cisco and Microsoft
- Nov 05 10:18:24 <Nep_Blanc> thanks for the info
- Nov 05 10:18:29 <Nep_Blanc> I read up on that too
- Nov 05 10:18:45 <Nep_Blanc> its a nice thing to see that they are willing to surpass x265 and they are doing well
- Nov 05 10:18:54 <Nep_Blanc> but oh man that CPU load =-=
- Nov 05 10:19:20 <Koala> the encoder won't be fast any time soon
- Nov 05 10:19:28 <Nep_Blanc> yep
- Nov 05 10:19:33 <Nep_Blanc> optimizing will happen later
- Nov 05 10:19:45 <Nep_Blanc> as stated in multiple posts about it
- Nov 05 10:20:12 <Nep_Blanc> even then maybe 10% improvement
- Nov 05 10:20:20 <Nep_Blanc> if that is the best case scenario
- Nov 05 10:20:28 <Koala> in performance? lol no
- Nov 05 10:20:35 <Nep_Blanc> could be better but I don expect much anyways
- Nov 05 10:20:44 <Koala> they'll be looking at over a magnitude of perf improvement
- Nov 05 10:21:02 <Nep_Blanc> magnitude of what
- Nov 05 10:21:34 <herkz> maybe in like 10 years people can finally stop using x264 because something better that's just as fast is finally out
- Nov 05 10:21:41 <Koala> magnitude = base10 improvement, so 10x, currently they're like 200x slower than vp9
- Nov 05 10:22:23 <Nep_Blanc> because I'm not sure if they make it that far like x2 faster than for instance x265 atm but VP9 is slow as fuck and not designed for multithreaded xeon cores and it seems that it also does not cope with numa
- Nov 05 10:22:49 <Koala> yes, because only Google cares about VP9 and Google does parallelisation through chunking
- Nov 05 10:23:01 <Nep_Blanc> VP9 is fine though but more a gimmnick now looking at it
- Nov 05 10:23:14 <Koala> libvpx is vp9's biggest issue
- Nov 05 10:23:22 <Koala> and sadly, libaom is based on libvpx
- Nov 05 10:23:38 <Koala> thankfully we've got talented folks from Mozilla et al working on beating the Google retardation out of it
- Nov 05 10:24:24 <Koala> fwiw, encoding with AV1 right now is a meme, which is why I suggested doing it
- Nov 05 10:24:40 <Nep_Blanc> haha yea I know
- Nov 05 10:24:44 <Nep_Blanc> also deam that kuchi guy
- Nov 05 10:24:48 <Nep_Blanc> deam much salt
- Nov 05 10:24:57 <Nep_Blanc> I actually really regret commenting on him
- Nov 05 10:25:54 <Nep_Blanc> ah well. I guess he gets what he deserves later on if this really continues because now it is getting rediculous for me
- Nov 05 10:25:59 <Koala> he used to troll the mpv bugtracker with several accounts because mpv doesn't support linked mkvs
- Nov 05 10:26:08 <Koala> hence why I try to just not touch kuchi
- Nov 05 10:26:16 <Nep_Blanc> heh
- Nov 05 10:26:34 <Nep_Blanc> he blames me for bitstarving my videos on x265
- Nov 05 10:26:44 <Nep_Blanc> I see that they are not totally the same as BDMV
- Nov 05 10:26:45 <Koala> he's a fucking retard for using linked MKVs in the first place, when ordered chapters does the same thing and is actually a sane part of the MKV standard
- Nov 05 10:27:16 <Koala> fwiw your encodes are shit based on the comparisons he linked
- Nov 05 10:27:27 <Nep_Blanc> I know
- Nov 05 10:27:31 <Nep_Blanc> not that I care much more
- Nov 05 10:28:08 <Nep_Blanc> just saying most people won't notice and its true I have losses on my encodes and my choice is just flac as a audio standard
- Nov 05 10:28:30 <Nep_Blanc> aac is fine as long you don go lower than 320 bitrate on stereo
- Nov 05 10:28:50 <Nep_Blanc> IDK why he bashes me for that though
- Nov 05 10:29:06 <fappu> a few months back he did this whole rant about how opensource anything is crap compared to closed source alternatives, all because someone said they were going to troll him by uploading 64MB piece torrents to AnimeBytes
- Nov 05 10:29:11 <herkz> >implying aac can't be transparent at bitrates lower than that
- Nov 05 10:29:12 <herkz> nice meme
- Nov 05 10:29:24 <Koala> fappu: amazing
- Nov 05 10:29:37 <Koala> oh right he said closed source is more secure than open source or something
- Nov 05 10:29:43 <fappu> and utorrent 2.x can't handle pieces those sizes
- Nov 05 10:29:55 <Koala> because apparently he doesn't know fuzzers and static analysis don't need the source lmao
- Nov 05 10:30:25 <fappu> yeah, he "proved" his point by pointing out open issues with qbit and other open source clients
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- Nov 05 10:30:37 <Koala> the qBitTorrent bug tracker is a mess
- Nov 05 10:30:54 <Koala> but seriously, just try to ignore kuchi
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- Nov 05 10:31:16 <Koala> if he breaks a rule, I'll deal with him, but engaging with him is just feeding the troll
- Nov 05 10:31:50 <Koala> https://nyaa.si/view/108580 tfw not seeded
- Nov 05 10:32:43 <herkz> https://nyaa.si/view/976152 top kek
- Nov 05 10:33:03 <herkz> >The collapse of nyaa.se has led to a hydra-like proliferation of anime trackers, including at least three different Nyaa successors. Of these, I upload to nyaa.pantsu.cat and nyaa.si. Both sites have removed my old torrents, but block me from reuploading. As such, until the admins of these sites get their heads out of their asses, I recommed acquiring my older releases from anirena.com, anidex.info, or acgnx.se.
- Nov 05 10:33:40 <motbob> <Nep_Blanc> aac is fine as long you don go lower than 320 bitrate on stereo
- Nov 05 10:33:44 <motbob> man
- Nov 05 10:33:44 <herkz> how much do you want to be this is just a case of not migrating old torrents
- Nov 05 10:33:48 <herkz> bet*
- Nov 05 10:33:57 <Koala> aac is fine at 196 kbit/s lel
- Nov 05 10:34:07 <Koala> herkz: 100%, I left him a comment
- Nov 05 10:34:15 <motbob> if you and koby weren't so fucking wrong about everything maybe you'd come out looking good in those flame wars with kuchi
- Nov 05 10:34:26 <Koala> lol he uses avi
- Nov 05 10:34:44 <herkz> sadly they're all idiots, motbob
- Nov 05 10:34:46 <Koala> I'm with motbob here
- Nov 05 10:34:55 <herkz> for some reason, dual audio anime releases attract the dumbest people around
- Nov 05 10:34:59 <Nep_Blanc> motbob, you mean me?
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- Nov 05 10:35:05 <motbob> i mean you
- Nov 05 10:35:05 <herkz> notice how there's no one like them that only does single audio
- Nov 05 10:35:07 <QQ> obviously
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- Nov 05 10:35:17 <Nep_Blanc> ugh I just defend what I stood for
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- Nov 05 10:35:22 <motbob> nep_blanc
- Nov 05 10:35:23 <Koala> Nep_Blanc: yeah, you need to do some more homework. Like actually do blind A/B listening tests, encoding comparisons
- Nov 05 10:35:24 <Nep_Blanc> not so toxic though
- Nov 05 10:35:28 <motbob> just give me one audio clip
- Nov 05 10:35:36 <motbob> that sounds different at QAAC 109 than flac
- Nov 05 10:35:37 <motbob> on
- Nov 05 10:35:38 <motbob> e
- Nov 05 10:35:39 <motbob> even one
- Nov 05 10:35:54 <Nep_Blanc> for now I have to choose the audio though
- Nov 05 10:36:01 <motbob> i've got my "expensive headphones" (as you put it)
- Nov 05 10:36:05 <motbob> i'm ready
- Nov 05 10:36:11 <Nep_Blanc> I head it though
- Nov 05 10:36:16 <Nep_Blanc> not that everyone does
- Nov 05 10:36:25 <Nep_Blanc> ah well its just a relative matter man
- Nov 05 10:36:54 <motbob> mate, if you can actually find me an audio clip like that, you will be doing me a big service
- Nov 05 10:37:07 <herkz> FLAC for anime is the worst meme
- Nov 05 10:37:09 <Koala> reminder that you need to do double-blind listening tests, Nep_Blanc. Placebo is a strong effect.
- Nov 05 10:37:13 <motbob> i'll have been foolishly using QAAC all this time, when I should have been using FLAC!
- Nov 05 10:37:29 <Nep_Blanc> also I just stand what with I have atm not that his shit is as bad, I just stated facts and well I am going to stop this mess on my part.
- Nov 05 10:37:43 <Nep_Blanc> also I do make AAC releases on request
- Nov 05 10:37:47 <Nep_Blanc> so does it matter much?
- Nov 05 10:38:03 <Nep_Blanc> and flac could induce placebo I know
- Nov 05 10:38:21 <Nep_Blanc> I just like that he doesn't thats all
- Nov 05 10:38:24 <herkz> well, your wasting tons of time and bandwidth
- Nov 05 10:38:25 <motbob> it sorta matters since you are telling people they are bad for making releases with much lower filesize but same-sounding audio
- Nov 05 10:38:32 <herkz> you're*
- Nov 05 10:38:37 <Nep_Blanc> stating a fact
- Nov 05 10:38:41 <Nep_Blanc> its lossy
- Nov 05 10:38:47 <Nep_Blanc> as my video is also lossy
- Nov 05 10:38:48 <motbob> imate
- Nov 05 10:38:50 <motbob> one audio cli
- Nov 05 10:38:53 <motbob> that's all i ask
- Nov 05 10:38:54 <Nep_Blanc> so does it matter much?
- Nov 05 10:39:06 <herkz> yeah
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- Nov 05 10:39:27 <herkz> both the audio and video could be transparent while still compressed compared to the source
- Nov 05 10:39:33 <FichteFoll> >Release Notes.rtf
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- Nov 05 10:39:35 <herkz> except i guess you don't know what you're doing
- Nov 05 10:39:37 <FichteFoll> could you ... not?
- Nov 05 10:39:45 <Nep_Blanc> herkz please don
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- Nov 05 10:40:04 <herkz> don?
- Nov 05 10:40:07 <Koala> I do music rips in FLAC, because people are gonna reencode to whatever their listening device supports anyway. But with anime the audio mastering isn't that great anyway, so who cares
- Nov 05 10:40:31 <Koala> if it's an application where people won't reencode, lossy-but--transparent is preferred
- Nov 05 10:40:35 <herkz> more like anime is mostly dialogue which barely needs any bitrate
- Nov 05 10:40:40 <Koala> true
- Nov 05 10:40:50 <Koala> could probably even get away with MP3 128kbit/s
- Nov 05 10:40:51 <herkz> like for the dialogue, i imagine he-aac levels of bitrate would be sufficient
- Nov 05 10:40:56 <motbob> NO
- Nov 05 10:41:01 <Koala> :^)
- Nov 05 10:41:08 <Koala> Opus 16 kbit/s
- Nov 05 10:41:15 <motbob> he-aac 64kbps is pretty listenable actually
- Nov 05 10:41:19 <motbob> in dialogue
- Nov 05 10:41:26 <herkz> that's basically what it was designed for
- Nov 05 10:41:29 <Nep_Blanc> =-=
- Nov 05 10:41:35 <Koala> https://people.xiph.org/~jm/opus/opus-1.2/ reminder that Opus is fucking magic
- Nov 05 10:41:55 <Koala> and Opus 1.2 does fullband audio at 14kbit/s
- Nov 05 10:41:56 <motbob> haha Nep_Blanc
- Nov 05 10:42:03 <Nep_Blanc> well I guess you don heard high noise artefacts in aac but ah well, Opus is but its not syncing well in mvk
- Nov 05 10:42:04 <motbob> none of us are gonna be using 64kpbs anytime soon
- Nov 05 10:42:15 <QQ> pls
- Nov 05 10:42:46 <motbob> can someone link me something about this "opus doesn't sync well in mkv" thing
- Nov 05 10:43:43 <motbob> i've heard it more than once
- Nov 05 10:43:51 <herkz> although speaking of FLAC, i did do some testing once for some anime and the bitrate was only like ~300-400kbps in the end
- Nov 05 10:43:58 <herkz> still bloated but it can end up hilariously small in some cases
- Nov 05 10:44:14 <Nep_Blanc> at least it is lossy though
- Nov 05 10:44:19 <herkz> sadly most people do ~le 24-bit flac~
- Nov 05 10:44:24 <herkz> which is gigantic
- Nov 05 10:44:30 <Koala> upsampling to 24 bit is such a dumb meme
- Nov 05 10:44:54 <Nep_Blanc> if source audio is I use 24 bit
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- Nov 05 10:44:59 <OmegaPhil> Isnt CD audio 16bit?
- Nov 05 10:45:00 <Nep_Blanc> if not than not
- Nov 05 10:45:05 <Koala> CD audio is 16 bit
- Nov 05 10:45:08 <herkz> i've seen 24-bit flac that's like 200mb for an episode of anime
- Nov 05 10:45:10 <QQ> 16/44.1
- Nov 05 10:45:11 <herkz> top kek
- Nov 05 10:45:15 <Koala> because that's really all you need in non-studio applications
- Nov 05 10:45:39 <Koala> reminder: read https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
- Nov 05 10:45:59 <Koala> >Its playback fidelity is slightly inferior to 16/44.1 or 16/48, and it takes up 6 times the space.
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- Nov 05 10:46:12 <QQ> 24/192 or bust :^)
- Nov 05 10:46:34 <Koala> tfw you placebo so hard you actually make the quality worse
- Nov 05 10:46:59 <QQ> higher numbers = better quality
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- Nov 05 10:47:48 <motbob> yeah but
- Nov 05 10:48:01 <motbob> i can slow it down by 4x in audacity and it'll still sound good
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- Nov 05 10:48:19 <motbob> bring on the 192kHz revolution
- Nov 05 10:48:39 <Nala_Alan> most 24 bit flacs are from WEB sources which actually are in 24bit
- Nov 05 10:50:28 <motbob> then the source needs to be fixed
- Nov 05 10:50:54 <motbob> oh, i guess you're saying that people aren't usually upscaling
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- Nov 05 10:51:36 <motbob> i think most people use eac3to for this stuff which handles bit depth automatically
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- Nov 05 10:53:57 <Nep_Blanc> idk bout that
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- Nov 05 10:54:18 <Nep_Blanc> I select it manually based on the sources
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- Nov 05 10:57:03 <fappu> >ignoring Rotational velocidensity
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- Nov 05 11:04:54 <Nep_Blanc> I've made samples of a full episode
- Nov 05 11:04:59 <Nep_Blanc> where do you want me to post em?
- Nov 05 11:05:56 <motbob> just post a small sample that you think sounds different
- Nov 05 11:06:03 <motbob> or a few small samples
- Nov 05 11:06:09 <motbob> that's how these tests usually work
- Nov 05 11:06:15 <Nep_Blanc> filedropper enough?
- Nov 05 11:06:22 <motbob> whatever works
- Nov 05 11:06:31 <Nep_Blanc> I just do one episode of youjo senki
- Nov 05 11:06:36 <motbob> ok but
- Nov 05 11:06:44 <Nep_Blanc> the intro is really sound rich but the rest is different
- Nov 05 11:06:45 <motbob> i'm not going to listen to a whole episode
- Nov 05 11:06:58 <Nep_Blanc> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372679271547928587/376776537883541534/unknown.png
- Nov 05 11:07:04 <Nep_Blanc> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372679271547928587/376776631487823892/unknown.png
- Nov 05 11:07:10 <Nep_Blanc> indication where some parts are
- Nov 05 11:07:19 <Nep_Blanc> but sure Iĺl post em
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- Nov 05 11:08:02 <motbob> aight
- Nov 05 11:08:49 <motbob> i'm gonna take your flac, encode to qaac, upscale the qaac to flac, and then randomize the two flac files
- Nov 05 11:09:06 <herkz> what aac encoder are you using, Nep_Blanc?
- Nov 05 11:09:10 <herkz> also is that >>>>>>>>>CBR
- Nov 05 11:09:18 <Nep_Blanc> yes and yes
- Nov 05 11:09:31 <Nep_Blanc> I actually made it go overbitrate
- Nov 05 11:09:36 <QQ> wat
- Nov 05 11:09:43 <Nep_Blanc> 320 preset
- Nov 05 11:09:53 <herkz> "yes" is not a valid answer to what encoder you're using
- Nov 05 11:10:00 <Nep_Blanc> oh ups
- Nov 05 11:10:12 <Nep_Blanc> I have foobar with the libraries attached to it
- Nov 05 11:10:13 <motbob> inb4 ffmpeg
- Nov 05 11:10:18 <motbob> WHICH LIBRARIES
- Nov 05 11:10:19 <Nep_Blanc> basically ffmpeg
- Nov 05 11:10:22 <motbob> oh ok
- Nov 05 11:10:27 <motbob> thank you for your time
- Nov 05 11:10:28 <Koala> lol the ffmpeg aac encoder
- Nov 05 11:10:31 <motbob> i don't need to deal with you anymore
- Nov 05 11:10:37 <Nep_Blanc> say wut
- Nov 05 11:10:49 <Koala> also btw those spectograms don't mean shit considering psychoacoustic optimisations
- Nov 05 11:10:59 <Koala> Nep_Blanc: the ffmpeg aac encoder is notoriously bad
- Nov 05 11:11:12 <herkz> ^
- Nov 05 11:11:48 <Nep_Blanc> well winamp FhG rings a bell?
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- Nov 05 11:12:02 <Nep_Blanc> idk reasons why I don use aac much
- Nov 05 11:12:21 <motbob> get a qaac binary man
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- Nov 05 11:12:34 <Koala> either get qaac or fdk_aac
- Nov 05 11:13:22 <motbob> can you make qaac work by installing quicktime standalone? or do you have to install itunes? i forget
- Nov 05 11:13:49 <Nep_Blanc> oh I never consider apple sorry
- Nov 05 11:13:52 <Nep_Blanc> even if it is that great
- Nov 05 11:14:01 <Nep_Blanc> I need to install itunes for it
- Nov 05 11:14:10 <Koala> you don't
- Nov 05 11:14:11 <Nep_Blanc> I rather not do that
- Nov 05 11:14:15 <Koala> you can extract it from the installer
- Nov 05 11:14:29 <Nep_Blanc> sorry for being so bluntly against apple stuff
- Nov 05 11:15:12 <Nep_Blanc> I rather just stay out of that rabbithole though, but if its possible to get that so called awesome encoder (not sure if it matters much)
- Nov 05 11:15:20 <QQ> Also doesn't youjo senki come with 2.1 audio?
- Nov 05 11:15:21 <QQ> Is this even supported by aac and flac?
- Nov 05 11:15:40 <motbob> you just drop the lfe and compare after that
- Nov 05 11:15:45 <Koala> "(not sure if it matters much)" it does
- Nov 05 11:15:57 <Nep_Blanc> it came with stereo
- Nov 05 11:16:00 <Nep_Blanc> on the bdmv as well
- Nov 05 11:16:04 <Koala> it's a difference between losing to MP3 LAME and actually being good
- Nov 05 11:16:24 <Nep_Blanc> ah
- Nov 05 11:16:30 <Nep_Blanc> well mp3 lame is laaaame :P
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- Nov 05 11:16:45 <motbob> actually
- Nov 05 11:16:52 <Nep_Blanc> joking though
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- Nov 05 11:17:03 <motbob> how does mpc handle 2.1 audio
- Nov 05 11:17:05 <Nep_Blanc> em filedropper fails me atm
- Nov 05 11:17:09 <Nep_Blanc> hmm
- Nov 05 11:17:15 <motbob> does it just drop the lfe channel
- Nov 05 11:17:25 <motbob> unless you have a subwoofer
- Nov 05 11:17:37 <Nep_Blanc> or just goes on both channels
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- Nov 05 11:18:52 <Nep_Blanc> http://www.filedropper.com/nepblancyoujosenki01track2jpn
- Nov 05 11:18:56 <Nep_Blanc> that is the m4v
- Nov 05 11:19:03 <Nep_Blanc> for some reason the flac does not want to upload
- Nov 05 11:19:07 <Nep_Blanc> give me a sec
- Nov 05 11:19:34 <motbob> i'm not gonna be using your aac encode(s)
- Nov 05 11:19:48 <Nep_Blanc> no shit
- Nov 05 11:19:53 <Nep_Blanc> but I only make them on req
- Nov 05 11:20:01 <motbob> i mean, for this test
- Nov 05 11:20:09 <Nep_Blanc> huh?
- Nov 05 11:20:28 <Nep_Blanc> so you are gonna make aac encode on it?
- Nov 05 11:20:29 <motbob> what do you mean huh. what is the thing you linked above? the video?
- Nov 05 11:20:38 <Nep_Blanc> noo
- Nov 05 11:20:41 <motbob> ok
- Nov 05 11:20:45 <Nep_Blanc> that is the m4v
- Nov 05 11:20:48 <Nep_Blanc> aka sound file
- Nov 05 11:20:49 <motbob> i will encode the aac myself, is what i'm saying
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- Nov 05 11:20:56 <motbob> since you don't care about encoder quality
- Nov 05 11:20:57 <Nep_Blanc> aac sound
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- Nov 05 11:21:35 <Nep_Blanc> ah ok then
- Nov 05 11:21:42 <Nep_Blanc> well the flac has issues with uploading
- Nov 05 11:21:52 <Nep_Blanc> don know why it did that the first place
- Nov 05 11:22:07 <Nep_Blanc> and again error occurred
- Nov 05 11:22:12 <Nep_Blanc> hmm some other dropper site
- Nov 05 11:22:33 <fappu> https://mixtape.moe/
- Nov 05 11:22:37 <motbob> if you made small samples you could just use pomf
- Nov 05 11:22:48 <Nep_Blanc> thats the thing
- Nov 05 11:23:18 <Nep_Blanc> ugh
- Nov 05 11:23:27 <Nep_Blanc> why have I not just used my own stuff the first place
- Nov 05 11:23:28 <Nep_Blanc> sec
- Nov 05 11:24:47 <Nep_Blanc> https://vids.theroaringlion.net/pictures/Nep_Blanc%20Release%20Group/Sound%20shitz/%5BNep_Blanc%5D%20Youjo%20Senki%2001%20_track2_jpn%20timed%20.flac
- Nov 05 11:24:57 <Nep_Blanc> my own server though through coudflare
- Nov 05 11:25:05 <Nep_Blanc> *cloudflare
- Nov 05 11:25:08 <motbob> ok
- Nov 05 11:25:18 <motbob> which parts of this do you want me to cut out and test
- Nov 05 11:25:51 <Nep_Blanc> first part
- Nov 05 11:25:57 <Nep_Blanc> some talking scenes
- Nov 05 11:26:09 <Nep_Blanc> and last part aka ED
- Nov 05 11:26:22 <Nep_Blanc> first part is with explosions and some idle chatter
- Nov 05 11:26:43 <Nep_Blanc> I do say it is pretty well done sound so far for the series
- Nov 05 11:26:48 <Nep_Blanc> but thats just me
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- Nov 05 11:45:23 <duplex> wtf did i miss
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- Nov 05 11:47:48 <Nep_Blanc> a lot I guess
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- Nov 05 11:51:51 <JY> !getquote
- Nov 05 11:51:59 <JY> mmh wrong chan
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- Nov 05 12:09:06 <duplex> >using non-free aac when you can just use Opus, an open, royalty-free low-delay audio format suitable for a wide range of audio applications
- Nov 05 12:09:41 <herkz> sad
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- Nov 05 12:31:26 <thebombzen> Nep_Blanc: if you *really* want AAC, you can get QAAC but not iTunes by downloading iTunes and opening the installer executable as an archive with 7-zip. Inside you'll find Apple Application Support 64.msi or something
- Nov 05 12:31:27 <thebombzen> install that
- Nov 05 12:31:35 <thebombzen> but honestly, use Opus
- Nov 05 12:31:36 <duplex> ^
- Nov 05 12:31:42 <duplex> also ^
- Nov 05 12:32:14 <duplex> itunes is such a horrendous piece of shit
- Nov 05 12:32:27 <thebombzen> when I hear people use it as their default player I get sad
- Nov 05 12:32:34 <Nep_Blanc> opus and syncing issues hmm have to still look into that, but still not really into the opus stuff
- Nov 05 12:32:36 <duplex> there are electron apps more efficient than itunes
- Nov 05 12:32:53 <thebombzen> Nep_Blanc: if you're having syncing issues with opus it's because you're not muxing it correctly
- Nov 05 12:33:02 <thebombzen> that's your fault
- Nov 05 12:33:10 <Nep_Blanc> mkvtoolnix is what I use mainly
- Nov 05 12:33:19 <thebombzen> have you tried not adding a delay to the audio
- Nov 05 12:33:26 <thebombzen> that'll fix your syncing issues
- Nov 05 12:33:28 <Nep_Blanc> I don add delay
- Nov 05 12:33:35 <thebombzen> good, then you won't have syncing issues
- Nov 05 12:34:04 <thebombzen> I mean just `opusenc --bitrate 128 input.flac output.opus
- Nov 05 12:34:06 <thebombzen> really really easy
- Nov 05 12:34:20 <Nep_Blanc> also I mainly encode on linux
- Nov 05 12:34:33 <thebombzen> which is why I provided the command-line tool for Linux
- Nov 05 12:34:52 <Nep_Blanc> also its apparentlu built into cli of handbrake too
- Nov 05 12:34:55 <Nep_Blanc> same goes for gui
- Nov 05 12:34:59 <thebombzen> >handbrake
- Nov 05 12:35:04 <Nep_Blanc> I know
- Nov 05 12:35:06 <thebombzen> you could also, you know, just avoid that particular piece of software
- Nov 05 12:35:12 <Nep_Blanc> and you guys brag that it is bad
- Nov 05 12:35:18 <thebombzen> there's a reason for that
- Nov 05 12:35:40 <Nep_Blanc> come up wit ha good one and Iĺl listen but otherwise meh
- Nov 05 12:36:15 <thebombzen> Handbrake is specifically designed to be "as easy to use" and to do this it hides internal settings that competent people would like to change
- Nov 05 12:36:37 <Nep_Blanc> I did hit that wall though
- Nov 05 12:36:40 <Nep_Blanc> not many times
- Nov 05 12:36:54 <thebombzen> if you use Handbrake you're locked into using bad default settings that you should want to change if you're competent enough
- Nov 05 12:37:09 <Nep_Blanc> so far no real reason to not use it
- Nov 05 12:37:25 <thebombzen> you mean other than "if you use Handbrake you're locked into using bad default settings that you should want to change if you're competent enough"
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- Nov 05 12:37:52 <iORcHiD> That affects quality very well Nep_Blanc compression and what not
- Nov 05 12:38:05 <Nep_Blanc> I know
- Nov 05 12:38:10 <Nep_Blanc> so far this is not been the issue
- Nov 05 12:38:30 <iORcHiD> You should compare your encode with others
- Nov 05 12:38:42 <iORcHiD> that will give you more precise idea
- Nov 05 12:38:43 <Nep_Blanc> and other applications were also doable but so unsupported in documentation that Ive just left it
- Nov 05 12:38:48 <Nep_Blanc> I compared it
- Nov 05 12:38:51 <Nep_Blanc> seen it
- Nov 05 12:38:54 <Nep_Blanc> and just thought
- Nov 05 12:38:56 <Nep_Blanc> good enough
- Nov 05 12:39:12 <Nep_Blanc> otherwise it would have been different
- Nov 05 12:39:18 <thebombzen> >unsupported in documentation
- Nov 05 12:39:25 <thebombzen> `man opusenc`
- Nov 05 12:40:29 <Nep_Blanc> if there is almost no documentation its more or less guess work
- Nov 05 12:41:11 <duplex> `opusenc --help`
- Nov 05 12:41:29 <Nep_Blanc> and if you credit me as a 2nd tier encoder thats upto you. I wasnt talking about opus derp
- Nov 05 12:43:39 <thebombzen> then what are not using because it has no documentation?
- Nov 05 12:45:10 <thebombzen> have you also considered that perhaps Handbrake is causing syncing issues with Opus and that might be a reason not to use it? Nobody else seems to have these "syncing issues" and nobody else uses Handbrake
- Nov 05 12:45:16 <Nala_Alan> why do people use markdown code marks in irc
- Nov 05 12:45:23 <thebombzen> habit
- Nov 05 12:45:31 <duplex> oh i didn't even notice comment editing was merged
- Nov 05 12:45:36 <duplex> sanks AMM ^_____^
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- Nov 05 12:45:57 <thebombzen> arigatou gozaimasu
- Nov 05 12:46:02 <thebombzen> gotta be a weeb at it
- Nov 05 12:46:14 <herkz> >>>>>>>>>handbrake
- Nov 05 12:46:17 <herkz> log off forever pls
- Nov 05 12:46:18 <Nep_Blanc> I don't think handbrake adds opus if it has sync issues
- Nov 05 12:46:23 <Nep_Blanc> herkz shut up :P
- Nov 05 12:46:42 <thebombzen> "I don't think handbrake adds opus if it has sync issues" <----- what?
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- Nov 05 12:46:54 <Nep_Blanc> they test it at least
- Nov 05 12:46:59 <thebombzen> what are you talking about
- Nov 05 12:47:12 <thebombzen> if you're not producing Opus with handbrake, then how the hell did you end up misaligning your audio
- Nov 05 12:47:16 <Nep_Blanc> why would that open source project add it if it does't work right
- Nov 05 12:47:23 <kme> motbob, watching your your name release and nice typesetting job
- Nov 05 12:47:27 <duplex> it works fine?
- Nov 05 12:47:31 <Nep_Blanc> okay tomzen I have not used it
- Nov 05 12:47:36 <Nep_Blanc> you think I used it ?
- Nov 05 12:47:47 <Nep_Blanc> I just read up into it and heard about it
- Nov 05 12:47:58 <thebombzen> from the way you're insisting it's a good piece of software I did believe you use it yes
- Nov 05 12:48:05 <Nep_Blanc> heh
- Nov 05 12:48:18 <Nep_Blanc> I've also had the moments that it is shit as fuck
- Nov 05 12:48:26 <thebombzen> you mean like every moment
- Nov 05 12:48:31 <Nep_Blanc> but for some parts it is as is a pretty good software packet
- Nov 05 12:48:42 <thebombzen> and yes, everyone else stays the hell away from it, so why would you insist it's good contrary to widely accepted common knowledge, and then not use it
- Nov 05 12:48:51 <Nep_Blanc> and if you judge me on that thats your thought
- Nov 05 12:49:17 <thebombzen> so you do use it
- Nov 05 12:49:32 <Nep_Blanc> I always have tried to see the gem in some stuff and this time I also wanted to rid of HB but so far no competent Linux counterpart
- Nov 05 12:49:44 <thebombzen> um
- Nov 05 12:50:23 <thebombzen> what do you even use Handbrake for? encoding opus? Opusenc. Multiplexing? Mkvtoolnix. Encoding? x264 CLI. Encoding Audio? Opusenc/flacenc/fucking ffmpeg.c works fine at that
- Nov 05 12:50:33 <duplex> filtering -> vapoursynth
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- Nov 05 12:50:48 <thebombzen> well I don't even think Handbrake wraps libavfilter
- Nov 05 12:50:54 <thebombzen> so you probably actually can't filter with it
- Nov 05 12:50:59 <OmegaPhil> but muh push buttan?
- Nov 05 12:51:18 <Koala> PUSH BUTTAN MAEK ANIME
- Nov 05 12:51:27 <Koala> HOW 2 CONVERT FILE 4 FREE
- Nov 05 12:51:48 <duplex> if you're using linux and relying on PRES BUTAN frontends you should probably just buy a mac tbh
- Nov 05 12:52:04 <thebombzen> >tfw actually advocating ffmpeg.c as a better tool
- Nov 05 12:52:31 <Koala> it happens
- Nov 05 12:54:09 <Nep_Blanc> macs that is dumb of you to say
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- Nov 05 12:54:24 <Nep_Blanc> I despise Apple
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- Nov 05 12:56:15 <n0kS> Apple despises you too Nep_Blanc
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- Nov 05 12:56:43 <Nep_Blanc> and neither the less should I care :P
- Nov 05 12:57:17 <n0kS> Apple doesn't care either
- Nov 05 12:58:32 <Nep_Blanc> so whats the problem
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- Nov 05 12:58:44 <Nep_Blanc> I just do not wanna be compared to an apple user
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- Nov 05 12:59:13 <n0kS> yeah that would be degrading, I understand
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- Nov 05 13:07:38 <Koala> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/paradise-papers-leak-reveals-secrets-of-world-elites-hidden-wealth I am shocked, SHOCKED I SAY
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- Nov 05 13:17:17 <motbob> thanks kme
- Nov 05 13:17:31 <motbob> you're just watching now?
- Nov 05 13:17:39 <kme> yeah
- Nov 05 13:18:18 <kme> still watching
- Nov 05 13:19:35 <motbob> apparently my release was good enough to scare anyone competent from rushing a release out
- Nov 05 13:19:41 <motbob> which, uh, might be a terrible thing
- Nov 05 13:19:53 <motbob> ommie where are you
- Nov 05 13:19:57 <motbob> commie*
- Nov 05 13:19:57 <duplex> [commie] your name aaaaaaaany day now
- Nov 05 13:20:15 <kme> it's a decent release tbh
- Nov 05 13:20:25 <kme> nothing wrong with that
- Nov 05 13:20:50 <kme> as long as there's a good release it doesn't matter what group it was released under
- Nov 05 13:21:11 <Koala> It doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl as long as your memes are dank
- Nov 05 13:21:13 <KoolKidsK> Also, yeah uh, doesn't vapoursynth work in Linux? With yunno, you don't even need remote desktop to use it
- Nov 05 13:21:39 <motbob> can an un-TLC'd release be called "good"
- Nov 05 13:21:41 <duplex> yes
- Nov 05 13:21:52 <duplex> @ KoolKidsK
- Nov 05 13:22:01 <kme> if the base script was good enough!
- Nov 05 13:22:05 <kme> which i can't judge obv
- Nov 05 13:22:13 <duplex> Narrator: It wasn't.
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- Nov 05 13:24:48 <ilikecats> AMM: i recovered 102k old sukebei .torrents newer than 2015-12-31 (which is a success rate of 40%)
- Nov 05 13:24:53 <ilikecats> do you want those or something?
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- Nov 05 13:32:05 <Koala> >banned malware torrent within less than a minute
- Nov 05 13:32:06 <Koala> feels good
- Nov 05 13:32:45 <duplex> gotta go fast
- Nov 05 13:33:05 <motbob> Nep_Blanc, i constructed an ABX test for you if you want it
- Nov 05 13:33:18 <Nep_Blanc> sure
- Nov 05 13:33:36 <Nep_Blanc> but but what does this involve and how more or less?
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- Nov 05 13:34:20 <motbob> i made 8 folders with two 24bit FLAC files in each. one is an upscaled QAAC 127 encode and one is taken straight from the youjo senki track you gave me with no modification.
- Nov 05 13:34:35 <motbob> https://mega.nz/#!YJVmwRbT!wBbahsH1_r3uFBDjwXmL9RmzAYCfrBn-4eUy-_u7954
- Nov 05 13:34:58 <motbob> there's an instuctions txt file
- Nov 05 13:35:08 <motbob> you can compare the files in any media player
- Nov 05 13:35:49 <motbob> you don't have to report your result or anything. or at least i won't bash you if you don't. this is just for your own edification
- Nov 05 13:36:07 <Nep_Blanc> sure thanks motbob
- Nov 05 13:36:20 <Nep_Blanc> Iĺl listen carfully when I am not as ehm heated lets say
- Nov 05 13:36:51 <Nep_Blanc> this is all way too recent on me I have to punch something or just let it goooo let it gooo :P
- Nov 05 13:36:56 <motbob> i found it impossible to tell but that doesn't prove anything ofc
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