Ozwell: You won't be silenced for speaking your opinion, I really want to hear whatever you guys think staff are doing right now that is too much.

  Broseph Stylin: Derailing rounds with fucking clowns.

  Broseph Stylin: Also not respecting votes.

  Broseph Stylin: A bunch of admins do shit I'd be banned for, and in fact have been in the past, like wordless murder.

  Ozwell: You go to the bar, you do your job, then you go steal some things. Your character backstory is of a kleptomaniac, and you did a crime. You love doing crimes, and you do them a lot. They are still minor crimes, but still crimes that you could be incarcerated or fined for.

  Ozwell: Should this person be bwoinked? Why or why not?

  Ozwell: I'll share my answer, as well, and see what you guys think.

  Broseph Stylin: Yes. Because you need to gauge intent.

  Ozwell: I don't think they should be bwoinked. If people are to be bwoinked for doing crimes literally all of the time, then why does the "solgov law" page on the wiki exist?

  Ozwell: Why would sec exist if we will bwoink everyone who does a crime?

Broseph Stylin: If you murder someone, better have a damn good IC reason. And I think it's fine for staff to ask for that reason.

  Ozwell: This is one of the problems I have with our current setting

  Ozwell: Too much character filtering.

  Ozwell: It discourages roleplay.

  Ozwell: What are your thoughts on this?

  Broseph Stylin: I don't think it discourages roleplay, no.

  Ozwell: We continue to filter through certain character types that we never see, because of the filtering

  Ozwell: For instance

  Broseph Stylin: You wouldn't hire a war criminal or something to work aboard a government ship. And yet I've seen literally that exact thing on people's records before.

  Ozwell: Uniform violation when you're an O-4?

  Ozwell: We'll handle that by bwoinking you, not ICly. Because, you should know better.

  Ozwell: Wearing your hair long?

  Ozwell: We don't care about your character's culture. You should know better. Bwoink.

  Ozwell: my point is

  Ozwell: an IC issue

  Broseph Stylin: I'll play SEA. When I get around to making a character for it.

  Ozwell: Staff overzeal, I want to see removed.

  Ozwell: Do you think a station setting would improve the topic of staff zeal? Why or why not?

  Broseph Stylin: It wouldn't change anything.

  Broseph Stylin: Besides, I like the setting.

  Broseph Stylin: So even if I thought it would, I would say no.

  Ozwell: I'd like you to compare and give me the pros and cons comparatively to a round on lifeweb or aurora, to a round on bay.

  Ozwell: if you cant answer this question, just basically tell me what we can do better

  Broseph Stylin: I can't really compare Bay to Lifeweb.


  Broseph Stylin: They're too different to be compared.

  Ozwell: That gives me an interesting question idea.

  Ozwell: What can we, as a staff body, do to make the rounds 100% IC?

  Ozwell: And, what should the criteria of staff intervention be?

  Ozwell: This question may or may not wrap us off.

  Broseph Stylin: Can't really be 100% IC.

  Broseph Stylin: People will cross the line sometimes and OOC intervention is necessary in those cases.

  Ozwell: Now, I see a lot of you saying it is impossible. It may very well be. But, I still would like to know what we, as a staff body, should have as criteria for intervention.


  Ozwell: I want to know what we can do to get as uninvolved as possible.

  Broseph Stylin: Can it be reasonably resolved IC, even if not perfectly? Don't intervene beyond asking questions. Can't? Act.
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  Ozwell: Good approach, Broseph.

  Ozwell: Anyhow, let's use the example of an assistant.

  Ozwell: Say, an assistant who is non-antag gears up and holds the mess hall hostage.

  Ozwell: Someone ahelps complaining because they are big sissies

  Ozwell: What should the appropriate response be?

  Ozwell: Personally, I believe it can still be handled ICly.

  Ozwell: I doesn't matter if you are an assistant or a captain, you're still a character

  Ozwell: When this happens

  Ozwell: Call security.

  Broseph Stylin: Lethally if necessary.

  Ozwell: Why should admins get involved at all?

  Ozwell: They are still doing something that can be handled ICly.

  Broseph Stylin: But no, taking people hostage for no good reason crosses the metaphorical line I've spoken of earlier.

  Broseph Stylin: Taking hostages out of nowhere isn't something people just up and do.

  Ozwell: Alright.

  Ozwell: Your feedback has been very illuminating for me. Now,

  Ozwell: Why should we bwoink people for escalation?

  Ozwell: They are doing what they know as characters.

  Broseph Stylin: Well, I beat the fuck out of a cuffed man with a bat a few rounds ago and didn't even get bwoinked.

  Broseph Stylin: So, uh, I guess more consistency would be nice.

  Ozwell: So, you're a drug addict. You need your fix, and you go through lengths to get it. Clandestine deals, you name it. Even going as far to use your position as a physician (or anything else really) to get it. Should you or shouldn't you be bwoinked, and why or why not?


  Broseph Stylin: Depends. Is it adversely affecting the round for others?

  Broseph Stylin: If you're fucking up other player's round on purpose, yeah, you should be bwoinked.

  Ozwell: Broseph, you're really good at this.

  Ozwell: i wish I noted everything down that broseph said

  Ozwell: it would really help me

  Ozwell: Alright.

  Ozwell: Perhaps the most important question of them all.

  Ozwell: Well, actually, a series of questions, I'd like you to answer each of them if possible. And yeah, that's a good example broseph

  Ozwell: Alright.

  Ozwell: Do you think anything will come from this?

  Ozwell: Do you want something to come from this?

  Ozwell: What do you want to come from this?

  Ozwell: What can we as a staff body do to make something come from this?

  Ozwell: go

  Broseph Stylin: >having hope on Bay

Broseph Stylin: I admire what you're doing. But I also think it'll be futile in the end, and will only make you deader inside. Still, you've got some balls, and I respect that.
  Three30three: deader or even more hated by the rest of staff
  Ozwell: I still want something to come from this. Thank you for that, broseph.
  Broseph Stylin: You're literally the first staffer I see actually trying to change the status quo.
  Ozwell: But... what can come from this?

  Ozwell: alright, we're probably going to derail soon. i'm shocked that we maintained such an amazing conversation for so long
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  Ozwell: that was really enlightening and fun
  Ozwell: Thank you very much for your thoughts.
  Ozwell: It will go towards the greater good... i hope.

  Broseph Stylin: You probably wouldn't be able to do this on prime time.
  Ozwell: If any of you have anything to add, anything
  Ozwell: Don't be afraid to DM me.
  Heptagon49: Ozwell, for being a man of memes, and arguing with you for thirty minutes about an AI, you're a chill dude/dudette.