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- 2 Timothy 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
- [08:37:35] <tomathyst> zebras
- [08:37:50] <deRuyter> zebras are like giraffes on the savanne
- [08:38:14] <tomathyst> yep, but they are horse-oids
- [08:38:22] <tomathyst> whatever the name is
- [08:38:39] <tomathyst> equus
- [08:38:48] <deRuyter> and ofc horses arent endemic either in Arabia
- [08:39:14] <tomathyst> where are they from?
- [08:39:14] <deRuyter> thats another reason why horse is an animal signifying human elite groups
- [08:39:24] <guerro> I used to take care of 3 horses once
- [08:39:31] <tomathyst> central asia?
- [08:39:33] <guerro> 2 stallions and 1 native american colt
- [08:39:39] <deRuyter> <- is rethinking why Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey
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- [08:39:58] <tomathyst> he couldn't afford a horse
- [08:40:27] <deRuyter> the common idea is that Jesus took a donkey to show His humility, but now I do think that even the donkey was an elite animal for hebrews, fit for a king
- [08:40:41] <guerro> the horse is a special animal, even among other farm animals
- [08:41:09] <tomathyst> i have never interacted with a horse, unfortunately
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- [08:41:55] <joey-> Nah deRuyter ... Jesus rode into Jersalem on a camel! :P
- [08:42:02] joey- ducks
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- [08:42:07] <lobefux> no it was a dromedare!
- [08:42:12] <joey-> LOL
- [08:42:22] <deRuyter> a horse needs so much food (grass), hence so much land that the majority of small farmers cant afford one
- [08:42:24] <lobefux> a rabbit i mean!
- [08:42:29] <joey-> imagine Jesus riding a komodo dragon
- [08:42:34] <lobefux> erh
- [08:42:35] <lobefux> nope.
- [08:42:39] <joey-> man ... that's a big rabbit
- [08:42:46] <tomathyst> alpacas and guanocos and llamas are camelids
- [08:43:02] <joey-> correct, tomathyst
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- [08:44:17] <tomathyst> rabbit-like animals are lagomorphs
- [08:44:28] joey- remembers susie (camel)
- [08:44:38] <joey-> like kangaroos?
- [08:45:13] <tomathyst> i recall these words from my paleontologist friend
- [08:45:35] <tomathyst> no, not including kangaroos; they are way too distant
- [08:49:56] <joey-> I think, if memory serves me correctly, kangaroos are marsupial
- [08:50:03] <joey-> but not rabbits?
- [08:50:09] <tomathyst> correct
- [08:50:13] <joey-> YAYYYYY
- [08:50:18] <joey-> I guessed it
- [08:50:34] <tomathyst> an educated guess!
- [08:50:39] <joey-> YES
- [08:51:03] <joey-> a scientific statement
- [08:51:24] <joey-> uh oh ... better watch out for our distinguished theologian
- [08:51:37] <ColoradoFred> IrishKing is a slagomorph
- [08:51:53] <tomathyst> *gasp*
- [08:51:53] <joey-> lol
- [08:52:34] <ColoradoFred> we all know tom isn't choking on surprise
- [08:53:52] <tomathyst> no surprise
- [08:54:54] joey- is organizing odds and ends ... plastic food containers
- [08:55:31] <tomathyst> 4 ops +2 others are in the 'we all hate irishking' clique, and all the rest of us are not.
- [08:55:54] <ColoradoFred> feels like you're on the losing side
- [08:55:58] joey- hates IrishKing?
- [08:56:06] <ColoradoFred> even if you win, you win a bigot
- [08:56:08] <ColoradoFred> hooray
- [08:56:11] <joey-> am I supposed to hate IrishKing, tomathyst?
- [08:56:14] <tomathyst> no, i'm in the vast majority, fred
- [08:56:23] <ColoradoFred> you may be fatter
- [08:56:26] <ColoradoFred> but that's about it
- [08:56:42] joey- wonders why he unbans IrishKing whenever he trips the bot
- [08:56:44] <tomathyst> fattery will get you nowhere
- [08:56:51] <ColoradoFred> tomathyst, the ER
- [08:56:58] <joey-> LOL ... the ER
- [08:56:58] <ColoradoFred> but you probably need a ride
- [08:57:30] <joey-> Mebbe we should turn pete- into a shark. <G>
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- [09:18:16] <ColoradoFred> can you temp ban KIKA?
- [09:23:10] joey- waves a magic wand .... pete- ... ban KIKA
- [09:23:21] <joey-> nothing happened
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- [09:24:11] <ColoradoFred> that worked
- [09:24:13] <ColoradoFred> thanks
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- [09:24:20] <ColoradoFred> uDICK!
- [09:24:21] <ColoradoFred> lol
- [09:30:07] <deRuyter> joey- if you click you get a free book: https://kampungpadi.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/wolfgang-rindler-introduction-to-special-relativity.pdf
- [09:30:26] <deRuyter> maybe its illegal, but you can just click on it
- [09:31:03] <deRuyter> you can look at the pictures and then delete it and then do a virus scan
- [09:33:26] <joey-> hahaha ColoradoFred
- [09:33:37] <joey-> sorry ol chap ... my ops not high enough
- [09:33:51] <joey-> deRuyter: my .pdf not working
- [09:33:52] <joey-> sorry
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- [09:35:09] <deRuyter> thats a bit like saying when there is $10 bill on the street: "sorry, my wallet isnt working"
- [09:35:24] <The_M> ah analogies!
- [09:35:38] <The_M> why dont you use a car analogy deRuyter
- [09:36:06] <deRuyter> the convincing part with analogies is that you dont need axiomatic (arbitrary rule-based) science/logic for that
- [09:36:26] <The_M> LOL
- [09:36:35] <deRuyter> so instead of referring to a system what most people dont accept you refer to a SIMILAR iamge
- [09:36:40] <The_M> is that why I dont find the bible parables very believable?
- [09:36:44] <deRuyter> a much more natural way of arguing
- [09:36:58] <The_M> natural?
- [09:37:13] <deRuyter> maybe you have problems with similarities
- [09:37:31] <deRuyter> that you only understand literal equalities
- [09:37:33] <joey-> it's true, deRuyter ... my adobe reader doesn't work.
- [09:37:37] <deRuyter> you should work on that
- [09:37:59] <deRuyter> the simile or analogy is the most convincing way of argument
- [09:38:17] <deRuyter> not dependent on arbitrary rule-based systems
- [09:38:30] <The_M> hmmm
- [09:38:38] <The_M> thats not the case though
- [09:38:48] <deRuyter> everybody knows that a crane is like a flamingo
- [09:38:53] <The_M> because without logic any analogy falls flat
- [09:39:01] <deRuyter> it obviates tiresome 'scientific' descriptions
- [09:39:30] <deRuyter> your dependence on 'logic' is lie an invalid on her crutches
- [09:39:47] <The_M> yeah
- [09:39:53] <The_M> so she can walk better
- [09:40:08] <deRuyter> you prefer to some weird rules while the analogy refers to the imagination of the recipient
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- [09:40:15] <The_M> logic and science are crutches for our feeble minds, to help us make sense of the world
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- [09:40:26] <deRuyter> speak for yourself
- [09:40:27] <The_M> I like that analogy
- [09:40:37] <The_M> oh I am
- [09:40:39] <deRuyter> nerds are nerds and will never get chicks
- [09:41:00] <The_M> said the religionist to the rationalist
- [09:41:52] <deRuyter> the scope of the spiritual person is sooooo much wider than the narrowness of the rule-governed mind
- [09:42:08] <The_M> well sure
- [09:42:36] <The_M> of course, what made you think I claimed otherwise
- [09:42:43] <deRuyter> if 10,000 people agree on a miracle are you gonna say that you 'think' different?
- [09:42:46] <deRuyter> if yes, why?
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- [09:43:03] <The_M> you should not have to guess deRuyter
- [09:43:07] <The_M> it depends on the evidence
- [09:43:13] <deRuyter> because you BELIEVE in the validity of some rules?
- [09:43:25] <The_M> haha
- [09:43:27] <deRuyter> you didnt even validate your arbitrary rule-set
- [09:43:40] <The_M> trying to change the meaning of the word 'believe'
- [09:43:45] <deRuyter> you just adopted them, without realizing what they really are
- [09:44:00] <deRuyter> its like think Yahtzee (with its rules) is 'real' life
- [09:44:02] <The_M> suddenly trusting on the rules of logic is equivalent to a faith in things unseen
- [09:44:27] <The_M> but it is real life deRuyter
- [09:44:30] <deRuyter> apart that your 'rules' are horribly restrictive
- [09:44:43] <deRuyter> they exclude beauty and humor
- [09:44:49] <deRuyter> thats a bit your world
- [09:44:52] <The_M> and these rules are validated, each day, every day, all day
- [09:45:05] <The_M> not really
- [09:45:06] <deRuyter> for you maybe
- [09:45:11] <deRuyter> not for the rest of us
- [09:45:36] <deRuyter> unless your a govnmnt paid professional who has to profess 'belief' in those rules
- [09:46:13] <deRuyter> no miracles, no salvation - life must be boring for you
- [09:47:19] <joey-> salvation is no more a miracle than the creation of our universe
- [09:47:21] <deRuyter> if you see a cow as just a herbivore instead of as a gift of Nurture from God, you"ll never appreciate true Beauty
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- [09:48:34] <deRuyter> ?kjv Job 21 10
- [09:48:35] <@pete-> Job21:10 Their bull gendereth, and faileth not; their cow calveth, and casteth not her calf. (KJV)
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- [09:51:52] <deRuyter> ?kjv exo 22 30
- [09:51:53] <@pete-> Exo22:30 Likewise shalt thou do with thine oxen, and with thy sheep: seven days it shall be with his dam; on the eighth day thou shalt give it me. (KJV)
- [09:55:18] <deRuyter> ?kjv Num 19 2 4
- [09:55:19] <@pete-> Num19:2 This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring thee a red heifer without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke: (KJV)
- [09:55:19] <@pete-> Num19:3 And ye shall give her unto Eleazar the priest, that he may bring her forth without the camp, and one shall slay her before his face: (KJV)
- [09:55:19] <@pete-> Num19:4 And Eleazar the priest shall take of her blood with his finger, and sprinkle of her blood directly before the tabernacle of the congregation seven times: (KJV)
- [09:55:49] <The_M> exactly deRuyter, no miracles, no salvation
- [09:55:57] <deRuyter> :(
- [09:56:14] <The_M> and when I die, thats the end
- [09:56:24] <joey-> finished
- [09:56:40] <gadfly> deRuyter, why do you need to believe in God to see the beauty and wonder of the universe/
- [09:56:44] <joey-> The_M: Don't tell mime. :P
- [09:56:49] <joey-> jeje
- [09:56:51] <joey-> hehe
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- [09:57:05] <joey-> wb ^Pilgrim^
- [09:57:06] <gadfly> I am in eternal awe of the universe
- [09:57:12] <The_M> me too gadfly
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- [09:57:17] <deRuyter> 'the wonder of the universe' == God
- [09:57:23] <gadfly> deRuyter, no
- [09:57:23] <The_M> I am in awe of my wife
- [09:57:27] joey- is in awe of warp drive
- [09:57:31] <gadfly> the wonderof the universe is the universe
- [09:57:40] <The_M> exactly
- [09:57:43] <^Pilgrim^> hey
- [09:57:48] <deRuyter> its wonder certainly indicates God
- [09:57:49] <The_M> you can call it god, but thats just arbitrary
- [09:57:52] <The_M> no
- [09:57:57] <gadfly> deRuyter, perhaps for you
- [09:58:02] <The_M> you have been led to believe lies
- [09:58:05] <deRuyter> and Scripture
- [09:58:06] <gadfly> I dont need gods to be in awe of it
- [09:58:24] deRuyter and Scripture against the atheists
- [09:58:32] <The_M> hehe
- [09:58:36] <deRuyter> guess who wins?
- [09:58:36] <The_M> no contest
- [09:58:43] <gadfly> deRuyter, wins what?
- [09:58:49] <The_M> well it depends on the state of things
- [09:59:06] <The_M> when civilisation crumbles I'm sure christianity will thrive
- [09:59:18] <joey-> [00:58] * deRuyter and Scripture against the atheists>> You can't be serious
- [09:59:19] deRuyter puts in the Sistine Chapel
- [09:59:22] <The_M> but when we keep on progressing, indeed, no contest
- [09:59:29] <deRuyter> what did you guys bring?
- [09:59:35] <deRuyter> a british twit?
- [09:59:38] <The_M> no
- [09:59:40] <joey-> a headache
- [09:59:47] <The_M> we bring the formulas for making paint
- [09:59:56] <deRuyter> hehe
- [10:00:09] <deRuyter> da Vinci wasnt a chemist
- [10:00:17] <The_M> the calculations to build the chapel such that the ceiling stays up
- [10:00:18] <gadfly> deRuyter, you dont even need a cow to be amazed
- [10:00:23] <gadfly> just a single cell is amazing
- [10:00:37] <joey-> agreed gadfly
- [10:00:41] <joey-> it sure is
- [10:00:52] <joey-> cell wall vs cell membramne
- [10:00:53] <The_M> and we can measure eyes diluting when humans look at it
- [10:00:55] <joey-> membrane
- [10:01:03] <The_M> dogs and cats not so much deRuyter
- [10:01:11] <gadfly> the telescope and microscope were two of the most important inventions of mankind
- [10:01:27] <gadfly> created within a decade or 2 of each other
- [10:01:39] <gadfly> with them we were able to see beyond our natural senses
- [10:01:51] The_M notices that deRuyter never acknowledges defeat in any debate, he just goes quiet
- [10:01:58] <gadfly> to discover the world was not just what we observed with our senses
- [10:01:58] <joey-> actually, the sail is prolly one of the most inventions of mankind, gadfly
- [10:02:08] <The_M> fire, steel
- [10:02:15] <The_M> logic, science
- [10:02:17] <joey-> it allowed us to cross vast distances
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- [10:02:19] <The_M> psychology
- [10:02:22] <The_M> genetics
- [10:02:25] <gadfly> joey-, well the singlemost important invention of mankind was IMHO Language
- [10:02:27] <The_M> in that order haha
- [10:02:35] <The_M> language! yes
- [10:02:38] <joey-> that is true, gadfly ...
- [10:03:19] joey- struggles to stay awake
- [10:03:32] <deRuyter> Antonie van Leeuwenhoek's religion was Calvinist. He often referred with reverence to the wonders God designed in making creatures great and small. He believed that his amazing discoveries were merely further proof of the great wonder of God's creation.
- [10:03:36] gadfly is boring joey ;(
- [10:03:36] joey- looks @ deRuyter
- [10:03:42] <joey-> nah, gadfly
- [10:03:45] <joey-> have a look at this
- [10:03:48] <The_M> he was wrong deRuyter
- [10:03:50] <The_M> misguided
- [10:04:00] <The_M> led to believe a lie
- [10:04:02] <The_M> sad
- [10:04:04] <deRuyter> He did invent the microscope, you didnt
- [10:04:10] <joey-> [joey- TIME reply]: Tue Oct 17 01:03:59 2017
- [10:04:14] <gadfly> deRuyter, so what?
- [10:04:14] <The_M> hahahah
- [10:04:15] <gadfly> heh
- [10:04:17] <joey-> there ya go, gadfly
- [10:04:22] <The_M> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/10/daniel-everett-amazon
- [10:04:30] <gadfly> joey-, I know its the same time here +- a few microseconds
- [10:04:42] <gadfly> I should be sleeping too
- [10:04:49] <joey-> oh man ... how do you do it??
- [10:05:00] <gadfly> I woke up with a headache
- [10:05:01] <joey-> I know for The_M and deRuyter ... it is morning
- [10:05:08] <gadfly> I was already asleep
- [10:05:09] <The_M> yeah
- [10:05:15] <joey-> gadfly: you too, eh?
- [10:05:17] <gadfly> just waiting for the excederin to kick in
- [10:05:18] <The_M> big mug of covfefe
- [10:05:25] <joey-> The_M: hehe
- [10:05:43] <joey-> just what I need
- [10:05:51] <joey-> covfefe
- [10:05:58] <The_M> so because I did not invent the microscope and van leeuwenhoek did, his belief in god is justified, and my atheism is not
- [10:06:15] <joey-> The_M: oh jee ...
- [10:06:17] <gadfly> The_M, that doesnt follow logic
- [10:06:17] <The_M> thats certainly a novel way of evaluating what is true and what is not
- [10:06:32] <The_M> quite
- [10:06:54] <joey-> hey deRuyter ... I still can't get my wallet to work. The zipper is broken. :P
- [10:06:58] <joey-> LOL
- [10:07:21] <The_M> its a train of thought by deRuyter, the resident dutch religious flake
- [10:07:25] <deRuyter> you think van Leeuwenhoek was wrong?
- [10:07:32] <deRuyter> you think you know better?
- [10:07:33] <The_M> yes deRuyter
- [10:07:35] <The_M> yes!
- [10:07:37] <deRuyter> what hubris!
- [10:07:43] <gadfly> deRuyter, im sure he was wrong about a great many things
- [10:07:47] <gadfly> just like any man
- [10:07:54] <joey-> yup, gadfly
- [10:07:55] <joey-> true
- [10:07:57] <The_M> he was a child of his time
- [10:08:10] <The_M> a poor misguided christian
- [10:08:10] <deRuyter> at least he PROVED he was right, by inventing usefull instruments
- [10:08:18] <The_M> hmm no
- [10:08:33] <The_M> that does not prove him correct on the god question
- [10:08:40] <deRuyter> same with Isaac Newton
- [10:08:41] <The_M> his instruments did not reveal god
- [10:08:44] <The_M> exactly
- [10:08:45] <gadfly> look at newton, prob the greatest mind in science/physics for his time. But he believed in all kinds of nutty things like turning base metals into gold, and eternal elixers
- [10:08:55] <deRuyter> you atheists never invented something usefull
- [10:09:01] <The_M> and god gadfly
- [10:09:07] <The_M> LOL
- [10:09:14] <joey-> the computer isn't useful, deRuyter?
- [10:09:19] <joey-> oh my!
- [10:09:26] <deRuyter> atheist = grumpy nay-sayer
- [10:09:27] <gadfly> deRuyter, turn off your computer, get off the internet
- [10:09:38] <gadfly> forgo anything to do with dna
- [10:09:39] <gadfly> heh
- [10:09:40] <joey-> hear hear, gadfly
- [10:09:45] <The_M> hehe
- [10:09:48] <deRuyter> Alan Turing was a deeply spiritual person
- [10:09:48] <The_M> oh and logic
- [10:09:49] <joey-> yup ... turn off the computer
- [10:09:53] <The_M> spiritual
- [10:10:08] <gadfly> turing committed suicide due to homophobes
- [10:10:12] deRuyter and Alan Turing fight off slacking atheists
- [10:10:17] <The_M> see what he is doing
- [10:10:33] <The_M> someone being spiritual makes them believe in the hebrew deity
- [10:10:39] <deRuyter> you still havent brought anything of value
- [10:10:44] <The_M> you are such a bad debater deRuyter
- [10:10:49] <deRuyter> nay-saying brngs nothing
- [10:10:49] <The_M> value?
- [10:10:53] <gadfly> The_M, homophobes like deRuyter drove turing to kill himself
- [10:11:03] <The_M> is he a homophobe??
- [10:11:08] <The_M> a dutch homophobe?
- [10:11:12] <The_M> those are very rare
- [10:11:15] <gadfly> a great mind lost due to bigotry
- [10:11:22] <The_M> so he is christian and a homophobe
- [10:11:25] <The_M> and dutch
- [10:11:28] <The_M> wow
- [10:11:29] <joey-> The_M: Isn't the word flikker a bad word?
- [10:11:35] <The_M> he should be in a museum
- [10:11:39] <The_M> hmm
- [10:11:39] <joey-> haha
- [10:11:50] <joey-> or flikka
- [10:12:09] <The_M> well...its not just used to describe gays, its meaning has changed a bit
- [10:12:17] <gadfly> The_M, look at Geert Wilders
- [10:12:18] <joey-> ok
- [10:12:22] <The_M> it can also mean a nasty person more in general
- [10:12:30] <gadfly> there are bigots in the netherlands
- [10:12:31] <The_M> geert is no homophobe
- [10:12:38] <joey-> oh wow, The_M
- [10:12:46] <The_M> no absolutely not
- [10:12:51] <joey-> there are bigots everywhere, gadfly
- [10:13:05] <The_M> he stands up for the rights of gays, no question about it
- [10:13:14] <joey-> good for him, The_M
- [10:13:30] <The_M> hehe
- [10:13:40] <joey-> The_M: _o/\o_
- [10:13:44] <The_M> he is less outspoken about it then about his hate for islam though
- [10:13:55] joey- nods
- [10:14:06] <The_M> his voters might be a bit more homophobic than the average dutchy
- [10:14:11] <The_M> not so sure
- [10:14:14] <gadfly> The_M, I said he was a bigot
- [10:14:20] <gadfly> not that he was a homophobe
- [10:14:20] <The_M> yes he is
- [10:14:27] <joey-> oh well ... one step at a time
- [10:14:28] <The_M> he is a bigot, without a plan
- [10:14:36] <joey-> bbl :)
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- [10:14:53] <gadfly> well its after 1am
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- [10:14:58] <gadfly> need to get some zzzzzzzzs
- [10:15:04] <gadfly> nice talking with ya
- [10:15:07] <gadfly> but got to sleep
- [10:15:10] <gadfly> nite
- [10:16:27] <The_M> hehee
- [10:16:48] <The_M> When they heard the word of God, his evangelic mission believed, they would be converted. Everett translated the Book of Luke, read it to the Pirahã and they were utterly unmoved. By 1985, he had privately lost his faith.
- [10:17:29] <The_M> So then I find myself with the Pirahã. They have all these qualities that I am trying to tell them they could have. They are the ones who are living life the way I'm saying it ought to be lived, they just don't fear heaven and hell."
- [10:17:29] <@pete-> The_M, u appear to be flooding the channel with pasted text, if you have something to say, please say it w/o flooding
- [10:17:37] <The_M> bullocks pete
- [10:17:41] <The_M> hairy bullocks
- [10:18:22] <The_M> pff thats quite some story
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- [11:27:03] <MrWonderful> Good morning team!!
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- [11:33:02] <MrWonderful> FredNorris photo shopped my picture and put it inside a woman's labia. now theres a guy who's a mentally ill stalker
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- [11:34:09] <MrWonderful> he sent it to me as a pm
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- [11:35:29] <MrWonderful> I must be the focus of a sorry assed troll's empty life
- [11:37:37] <The_M> and do you know why?
- [11:38:35] <MrWonderful> no
- [11:38:52] <MrWonderful> do you?
- [11:42:12] <The_M> well usually there needs to have been some sort of interaction
- [11:44:00] <MrWonderful> I banned that troll from 2 channels I op
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- [12:04:01] <MrWonderful> Team, Fred has now stolen Yossarian's nick
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- [12:29:58] <MrWonderful> Thank u petey
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- [12:51:04] <MrWonderful> I was in bed after falling asleep during the Colts-Titans game
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- [13:10:05] <MrWonderful> Welp, it's chilly here
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- [13:10:12] <MrWonderful> YAY
- [13:10:17] <Daren_> Morning IK
- [13:10:23] <MrWonderful> Hello Daren
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- [13:10:54] <MrWonderful> I see Fred stole yer nick
- [13:11:01] <Daren_> did he?
- [13:11:13] <MrWonderful> yeah
- [13:11:16] <Daren_> Ah
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- [13:11:56] Daren_ shrugs
- [13:12:03] <Daren_> oh well
- [13:12:07] <mime> Fred sent me the picture on PM.
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- [13:12:37] <MrWonderful> hee hee
- [13:12:55] <Fred_Norris> 3 day week
- [13:13:04] <MrWonderful> good
- [13:13:13] <Fred_Norris> Although, we have parent teacher conferences tonight until 7.
- [13:13:15] <MrWonderful> work today
- [13:13:38] <Fred_Norris> Yeah, Thursday Friday off.
- [13:13:50] <MrWonderful> excellent
- [13:14:02] <Fred_Norris> We're going to Kansas City.
- [13:14:13] <MrWonderful> yeah?
- [13:14:23] <MrWonderful> whats there?
- [13:14:49] <Fred_Norris> We like visiting the Country Club plaza.
- [13:14:57] <Fred_Norris> Its a shopping district.
- [13:15:10] <MrWonderful> whats that?
- [13:15:22] <mime> I find that it weird that The_M can claim much smarter people than himself is "misguided" in a question of science which The_M arguably knows very little about.
- [13:15:44] <MrWonderful> mime shut the F up
- [13:15:51] <mime> MrWonderful Go back to bed.
- [13:15:53] <Fred_Norris> https://visitkcfiles.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/styles/carousel/s3/Neptune-Fountain-3150.jpg?itok=h8YjCniY
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- [13:16:57] <MrWonderful> Yozzie, looks nice
- [13:17:14] <Fred_Norris> Yeah, it's pretty cool.
- [13:17:35] <mime> https://i.imgur.com/r4d5haK.jpg <--- I recieved this in PM.
- [13:17:54] <mime> I might pursue and push this as the next Meme.
- [13:17:56] <The_M> haha mime
- [13:18:01] <Fred_Norris> We go eat BBQ at Oklahoma Joe's.
- [13:18:07] <Fred_Norris> mmmm
- [13:18:19] <Fred_Norris> I think it's just called Joe's now
- [13:18:48] <The_M> arguably I know a lot about the existence of god
- [13:18:53] <mime> hehe
- [13:19:16] <Fred_Norris> The_M, I think it's safe to say you know as much as anyone ever has about the Lord.
- [13:19:16] <The_M> yeah
- [13:19:22] <mime> Thats the best example of how to use the word "arguably" wrong I have seen in a long time.
- [13:19:35] <The_M> I've talked to a lot of christians Fred
- [13:19:55] <Fred_Norris> lol... we have less than two weeks before we start to move.
- [13:20:00] <Fred_Norris> We aren't ready.
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- [13:20:09] <Fred_Norris> morning Teukka
- [13:21:21] <The_M> hehe mime talking about the correct use of words
- [13:21:24] <The_M> chutpah
- [13:21:28] <The_M> chutZpah
- [13:21:29] <The_M> grin
- [13:21:54] <mime> The_M You can relax, I have won the argument already.
- [13:22:04] <mime> Any further statement will just make you appear young.
- [13:22:29] <The_M> young?
- [13:22:31] <The_M> wow
- [13:22:36] <The_M> where do I sign up
- [13:22:41] <mime> Take it as a compliment.
- [13:23:30] <The_M> ?
- [13:23:35] <The_M> oh well
- [13:23:43] <mime> This way you arent old and dumb, The_M.
- [13:23:46] <mime> Just young.
- [13:24:18] <MrWonderful> mime, keep that up and you will be banned
- [13:24:47] <Fred_Norris> Is he praising Hitler's holy name again?
- [13:24:57] <mime> MrWonderful Keep it up and you are soon on /pol.
- [13:25:16] <Fred_Norris> He'll goose step his way into a perma-ban
- [13:25:25] <mime> Fred made a beautiful meme.
- [13:25:32] <mime> I am contemplating the point as we speak.
- [13:25:35] <MrWonderful> 3 people died in yesterday's rare Hurricane that struck Ireland
- [13:26:22] <The_M> nah Fred, he is trying to insult me, calling me names and such
- [13:26:37] <Fred_Norris> IK, yeah... I chatted with Mora, my token Dublin friend, last night on facebook. She said it was pretty wild.
- [13:27:00] <Fred_Norris> The_M, that is why I keep it on ignore.
- [13:27:33] <mime> I find that it weird that The_M can claim much smarter people than himself is "misguided" in a question of science which The_M arguably knows very little about
- [13:28:15] <The_M> whats that question mime?
- [13:28:17] <Fred_Norris> He's irrelevant.
- [13:28:25] <mime> Yeah...
- [13:29:11] <mime> The more times I state this, the more apparent it become that everyone finds it weird that The_M can claim much smarter people than himself is "misguided" in a question of science which he himself arguably knows very little about.
- [13:29:35] <Fred_Norris> If everyone else in real life has ostracized him to chatting online 18 hours a day, there is no reason why I should give him an audience.
- [13:29:55] <The_M> thats a fair analysis
- [13:30:25] <MrWonderful> Yozzie, It was Ireland's first hurricane in a half century
- [13:30:30] <Fred_Norris> Yup
- [13:31:02] <The_M> you can just imagine him, shying away from any contact, for fear of being called an ideeot to his face
- [13:31:10] <Fred_Norris> Speaking of real life. I have to go get ready for work.
- [13:31:14] <The_M> so he comes in here to be called that on IRC
- [13:31:15] <mime> I think its good and fair to give The_M the benefit of doubt.
- [13:31:20] <The_M> have fun Fred
- [13:31:24] <mime> Thus we must assume he speaks out of ignorance, and not of conviction.
- [13:31:26] <MrWonderful> have a great day
- [13:32:02] <Fred_Norris> Work, it's that place normal people go who aren't such annoying ass-holes that they pay you to be there mime.
- [13:32:14] <mime> It is, after all, not very smart to claim much smarter people than ourself is misguided in topics which we know very little about.
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- [13:32:58] <MrWonderful> mime, you're like a broken record
- [13:33:15] <mime> I think its important to make this valid point clear and open.
- [13:33:18] <The_M> well its all ad hominem
- [13:33:22] <mime> Not at all.
- [13:33:27] <mime> It apply to everyone, as demonstrated.
- [13:33:28] <The_M> there is never any substance to it
- [13:33:48] <The_M> its strawmanning, ad hominems, and then he declares victory
- [13:33:54] <mime> Absolutely not an ad hominem, nor a strawman.
- [13:33:57] <MrWonderful> please ban mime for incessant douchebaggery
- [13:34:10] <mime> The_M addressed the opinions of much smarter people than himself, and called it erroneous.
- [13:34:20] <mime> Therefor my point is neither an ad hom, nor a strawman.
- [13:34:47] <MrWonderful> mime you're sickening
- [13:34:54] <The_M> hmmm
- [13:35:02] <The_M> well
- [13:35:04] <mime> I am sorry, but no one is sickening for merely proving a valid point.
- [13:35:09] <mime> Then you have some personal issues.
- [13:35:10] <The_M> I have the facts on my side though
- [13:35:14] <mime> Not interested in those...
- [13:35:23] <The_M> ah, that explains a lot
- [13:35:32] <MrWonderful> no one gives a rat's ass what you think
- [13:35:44] <mime> I know that you think you are justified in your beliefs, The_M. But I am not speaking about the validity of your atheism.
- [13:36:00] <mime> I am speaking of the validity of your justification in this specific regard for your (and general) atheism.
- [13:36:00] <The_M> oh, well, its very valid
- [13:36:11] <mime> I am aware, The_M - I am making the points.
- [13:36:15] <mime> My points are always valid...
- [13:36:19] <mime> And very sophisticated...
- [13:36:21] <The_M> a specific regard?
- [13:36:25] <The_M> LOL
- [13:36:36] <mime> The_M Read what I said one more time.
- [13:37:04] <MrWonderful> mime you suffer from Grandiloquia
- [13:37:18] <mime> <The_M> he was a child of his time
- [13:37:19] <The_M> just because someone is smart, does not mean they cant make mistakes, there are lots of smart people that believe in gods
- [13:37:22] <mime> (he =løvehjertet).
- [13:37:23] <The_M> yes mime
- [13:37:27] <The_M> a child of his time
- [13:37:29] <mime> <The_M> a poor misguided christian
- [13:37:48] <The_M> in the past most scientists were christians, thats no longer the case
- [13:37:51] <mime> The_M Yes, exactly my point.
- [13:38:26] <The_M> thats not because we are now smarter, we are just better informed, and religion has less worldly power
- [13:38:31] <mime> Just because someone is smart, do not mean they cant make mistakes.
- [13:38:36] <mime> That is why The_M is making an invalid argument.
- [13:38:42] <The_M> you can profess to be an atheist, without being burned at the stake
- [13:38:58] <mime> The_M is saying that to be a Christian, is dumb.
- [13:39:08] <mime> The_M Hopefully that will change.
- [13:39:49] <The_M> strawman
- [13:39:56] <mime> We cant have amoral atheists in society, you know.
- [13:39:57] <The_M> thats not what I said, and not what I meant
- [13:40:04] <mime> Look at what they do; free abortion, sin and sodomy.
- [13:40:17] <The_M> whats wrong with sodomy?
- [13:40:18] <bumps> and i thought joey was disingenuous.
- [13:40:29] <The_M> oh you havent met mime?
- [13:40:45] <mime> The_M You dont know whats wrong with sodomy?
- [13:41:02] <The_M> bumps, allow me to introduce mime, the resident nazi of #scripture
- [13:41:04] <bumps> circular, obtuse, annoying
- [13:41:09] <The_M> no mime, I dont
- [13:41:18] <bumps> yeah, i smelled that on him too
- [13:41:24] <mime> The_M Then why has it been looked upon as it has through the ages?
- [13:41:29] <bumps> krishna and joey biproduct
- [13:41:34] <mime> The_M Certainly not everyone look at it from a religious view.
- [13:41:37] <mime> Like doctors.
- [13:41:44] <@pete-> The_M, could you please stop uncalled for name calling and insults? :/
- [13:41:55] <The_M> bullocks pete
- [13:41:57] <The_M> hairy bullocks
- [13:42:01] <bumps> what an unholy mutant
- [13:42:23] <mime> My point is of course the clear winner of this "conversation".
- [13:42:24] <The_M> oh I forgot to mention bumps, he is under the protection of the powers that be
- [13:42:26] <The_M> LOL
- [13:42:26] <mime> (=instruction).
- [13:42:52] <The_M> he can insult all day, but dont dare to say anything about him
- [13:42:57] <The_M> pffffffff
- [13:43:08] <mime> Are we whining again?
- [13:43:23] <mime> I simply point out that its not smart to claim smart people are misguided in topics we know very little about.
- [13:43:41] <mime> And now The_M is whining his heart out to bumps and everyone which might give him a second of attention.
- [13:44:08] <The_M> but we do know a lot mime
- [13:44:12] <mime> I cant do more than declare my Victory.
- [13:44:22] <The_M> correct
- [13:44:26] <mime> The_M No, we know every little about everything.
- [13:44:34] <The_M> you cant do more than that
- [13:44:43] pete- sets mode +b *!*oskar@194.88.143.*
- [13:44:43] <@pete-> mime, I asked you to stop the antagonistic comments too many times, sorry 30 minutes :/
- [13:44:48] <The_M> oh wow
- [13:45:07] <The_M> lunch
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