06-15-2016

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08:56 Topic: Android application development | Android N Preview released http://goo.gl/QnsKsv | Official docs at http://d.android.com/ | Root/custom ROMs, head to #android-root | No bots, and no advertising please, jobs or otherwise | Source at source.android.com | http://imgur.com/jacoj
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08:56 Created at: 21 Oct 2008, 00:03
08:57 lukeallison: COrrect.
08:57 min2: then from fragments all you need to ((MainActivity)getActivity()).tabLayout.setVisibility(View.VISIBLE);
08:58 lukeallison: Beautiful.
08:58 min2: you can access your public field variables like this from any child fragments
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08:59 lukeallison: Now another question while you're there. It's about convention. If I swap out the third page in the viewpager with a new fragment that no longer has the TabLayout displayed I can still swipe the screen and change to a different page of the view pager but now there is no TabLayout visibe.
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09:00 lukeallison: Should I A) Disallow swiping when I have a detail fragment inflated or B) Add the TabLayout when I swipe
09:00 lukeallison: Sorry if that makes no sense.
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09:13 lukeallison: ie, 1. user swipes to third page, 2. user clicks on list item 3. detail fragment becomes visible and tabLayout is made invisible 4. user swipes in an attempt to go back to second page of ViewPager
09:13 lukeallison: Should the user be able to do step 4 or should swiping be disabled so they are forced to hit "back" first.
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09:18 test123: i have question to experienced devs, I use to use recycleradapter modified to manager cursor (lets say called cursorrecycleradapter). Is it good practice to use this or should I use default recycleradapter and somewhere deep there in code manage with database?
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09:36 lukeallison: When you finish the beta of your app, add tabLayout and suddenly the swipe transition is laggy
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09:37 lukeallison: I assume this has something to do with having 10 levels in my Layout?
09:39 akshitkumar1: hey all, I want to make a battery optimised app, which requires me to schedule tasks every X seconds, is there a way to schedule the CPU to wake up every X seconds, take a snapshot and go back to sleep again?
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10:06 atulagrwl: Needs help regarding google play. One of my app has been submitted 1 week before and yet the update is not published and showing 'Processing update'
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10:07 atulagrwl: This is an existing android application published around 1 year ago.
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10:14 Leeds: finally watched the retrofit2 video I've had queued up for many many months :)
10:14 Leeds: atulagrwl: is there anything weird about it, any reason for it to be delayed?
10:15 atulagrwl: Leeds: I am not sure. I am also surprised about it.
10:16 atulagrwl: Any way to get anyone to look at it? Maybe some support mechanism
10:17 Leeds: dunno, sorry
10:17 atulagrwl: I have been waiting for over 1 week. Now I am getting complaints from all over.
10:17 Odaym: that one where he introduces it?
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10:18 Leeds: Odaym: yeah
10:19 Odaym: yea its really nice
10:19 Leeds: atulagrwl: so... is there any reason *you* can think of?
10:19 atulagrwl: Leeds: There is nothing change in the recent release. I just switched from eclipse to android studio and did some UI work.
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10:20 atulagrwl: One reason could be that we have used lots of permissions in the app.
10:20 atulagrwl: But nothing changes in the last release
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10:23 Leeds: care to name/link the app?
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10:24 tx: uh
10:24 tx: is this because you switched to the marshmallow SDK
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10:24 tx: which now uses  a different permissions system
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10:26 atulagrwl: tx: That makes sense. Let me check
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10:34 csddl: Hi, can I build AOSP with clang?
10:35 asimas: Hi I have a question. Is it possible to use an LGPL-licensed C library in android applications without providing others with the full source of the application? Some google results say that it's enough that the library can be replaced by recompiling the app (decompile and compile manually). But I cannot find a definitive answer. Has anyone dealt with this previously?
10:37 Leeds: asimas: the whole point of the LGPL is that it doesn't 'infect' other code - if you modify the library, you have to release those changes (on demand, etc) but if you just link to the library you don't have to do anything GPLish with your own code
10:37 Leeds: consult a lawyer for actual advice
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10:42 asimas: Leeds, thanks for your input. However, I'm hoping to get a developers perspective for this. We can all read LGPL like regular lawyers would do but I'm interested in "what" can be done with android apps to abide that license requirements. I doubt a lawyer could help with that :|
10:43 Leeds: what I mean is, if the answer is important to you, don't take advice from a stranger on an IRC channel...
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10:47 atulagrwl: tx: Checked and found that earlier I was using 19 as compileSdkVersion in eclipse and when I switched to studio, I was using 22. Can it be the reason?
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11:16 Apicalis__: Hey people i got the following setup. Selfdesigned smart home device that sends a HTTP request to my external Server(kasserver.com) that causes a PHP Script to send a push notifcation via GCM to the app on my phone. This worked for a solid year now but suddenly stopped without me interfering with anything here. Did anybody expirience somehting like that?
11:17 Apicalis__: Did they chance something recently in GCM?
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11:41 Mavrik: asimas, LGPL requires you to provide a way to replace the LGPL libraries
11:41 Mavrik: So if you get a request, you'll have to be able to find a way for that person to reassemble your app with a replacement to LGPL libraries.
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11:43 asimas: Mavrik, it also says that the replacement must be able to be done manually. I.e. user can replace it whenever he wants to without my interference. However, some sources say that the .apk can be recompiled manually and the file changed. I wonder if that's enough to abide the LGPL.
11:44 Mavrik: Which file?
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11:44 Mavrik: Is it a JAR? Or a native library?
11:44 Mavrik: Honestly, if you don't wanna opensource your code, just stay away from all GPLs
11:45 Mavrik: Since people don't like it when you try to step around GPL code for commercial benefit and will mess with you just for fun.
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11:46 markyosullivan: I'm not sure if any libraries I'm using is GPL
11:46 markyosullivan: :|
11:46 markyosullivan: Mavrik is the talk today or tomorrow?
11:46 markyosullivan: I'm terrible with days
11:46 markyosullivan: as you can see
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11:47 p0ff3: Ok, so I'm back... Does anyone here have experience with React Native?
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11:52 test123: hey, maybe someone didnt see my question ;) but is it ok to use CursorRecyclerViewAdapter or should I use default RecyclerViewAdapter and from time to time in code deep there in code call to db when I need?
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11:55 markyosullivan: p0ff3: Never had experience with it myself but heard it's pretty cool, why you asking?
11:56 test123: because using cursor recyclerview adapter I have problem with some features, like insert and delete inside of the list (because content provider notifiy immediately list by calling to load manager)
11:56 test123: and there is no animation
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11:59 gordon_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POZmfjRHdfE
11:59 gordon_: interesting, they're getting more features from other languages ;)
11:59 gordon_: not necessary a bad thing
12:00 squ: java8 added tainted mode, which was in perl for years
12:01 gordon_: well, talk is about kotlin
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12:01 gordon_: not java
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12:11 asimas: Mavrik, it's a native library. I'm in need of an MP3 decoder and I can't find any without a less-restrictive license than LGPL..
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12:35 p0ff3: markyosullivan: Shit missed your answer, I'm curious because I've never used it, is it suitable for a beginner? Is it actually easy to develop cross-platform?
12:38 shmooooz: asimas: MediaPlayer built into android decodes .mp3's
12:39 asimas: shmooooz, poor performance of MediaPlayer is the sole reason of looking for a native decoder.
12:39 markyosullivan: p0ff3: Like I said, never had any experience of it so I'm not sure. Though it seems to be cool the way you can make iOS and Android apps with the same logic.
12:39 markyosullivan: Not sure how the performance is on both of them however
12:41 p0ff3: Yeah I might just do some stuff and see how I feel about it. Thanks anyways
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12:49 xpoqp: I need to trigger a logger to collect data a few seconds every n'th sec where n can be anything from a second to 60, and my first intuition was to use the Alarm Manager but I'm not sure if that's correct, are there more efficient ways?
12:51 barq: What do you mean by collect data
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13:01 xpoqp: barq: I mean that a sensorListener is registered and reads data to a file for a short period of time
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13:08 LeartS: Hey guys, If you don't mind I'll try reasking a question I asked yesterday: http://hastebin.com/zanahegadu.txt
13:10 Leeds: LeartS: that's not a question... try to summarise rather than expecting everyone to go look at your paste before they know if they could help
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13:13 LeartS: Profiling a slow app start with the traceview, most of the time (32% of a 6 seconds timespan) is spent (CPU exclusive) in thread.nativeCreate and Object.wait. This seems strange me, but I'm not an Android developer.
13:14 Mavrik: Leeds, did you use systrace yet?
13:14 Leeds: Mavrik: I used dtrace...
13:14 Mavrik: sorry Leeds :P
13:14 Mavrik: LeartS,.
13:14 LeartS: In those 6 seconds, hundreds of Timers (java.util.Timer) are created, each one in its own Thread. Could this be the cause, or it's normal/possible to have this situation?
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13:15 Mavrik: Leeds, uhhh... yes that certanly is the case O.o
13:15 Leeds: you're not an Android developer, but you're debugging an Android app?
13:15 Mavrik: Creating threads is expensive.
13:15 Mavrik: fsck
13:15 LeartS: (the paste i linked previously are 5 IRC lines of me asking the question yesterday :D)
13:15 Mavrik: LeartS, yes, that certanly is the case
13:16 Mavrik: WHY are you creating hundreds of threads?! O.o
13:16 LeartS: Leeds: I'm helping my colleagues who are ANdroid devs
13:16 Leeds: is this a standard native app, or using some framework?
13:16 Leeds: unity, mono, etc
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13:17 LeartS: Poor Leeds, all pinging him by mistake today
13:17 hero_biz: hi guys.
13:17 hero_biz: I have a small question
13:17 Leeds: hero_biz: 1.2%
13:17 Leeds: (a small answer)
13:17 bolovanos: hi hero
13:17 shmooooz: how small is it?
13:18 hero_biz: I have limited number of lns in a textview by maxLine="2"
13:18 bolovanos: hero_biz, how about that Toolbar in Settings Fragment - have you been successful?
13:18 hero_biz: @bolovanos: I wrote a whole settings library...
13:19 hero_biz: now I can force textview to clip long texts and add ... to it?
13:19 hero_biz: android:ellipsize="end"  alone won't work
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13:19 hero_biz: need textSize too,it seems.
13:19 bolovanos: hero_biz, well, good job
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13:20 hero_biz: @bolo: ty :) it became somehow good :)
13:20 LeartS: Mavrik: I have no idea why they are doing that. I just wanted confirmation that that is indeed expensive and "wrong" before being the guy who doesn't know anything about android development that goes to the android developers to say "I think your problem is here..."
13:21 Mavrik: Timers are rarely used and it's even rarer to use more than one :)
13:21 Mavrik: Also, thread pools :)
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13:21 Leeds: LeartS: is this a standard native app, or using some framework?
13:21 hero_biz: any idea how I can limit size of text in size of view automatically?
13:21 markyosullivan: Does vector drawables force a lot of computing when the app is running?
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13:22 Mavrik: markyosullivan, just the first time they're rendered at a given size
13:22 Mavrik: Since they have to be rasterized.
13:22 Mavrik: CPU time used depends on complexity.
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13:25 markyosullivan: Yeah I figure that it might be causing the "The application may be doing too much work on its main thread." message in the logcat
13:26 markyosullivan: Mavrik if you change the height & width of the vector within the vector file, would that change the effect it has on the app? Or do you have to reimport the vector drawable?
13:27 Mavrik: Hmm... not sure, do vectordrawables even listen to that size_
13:27 Mavrik: (I haven't used them a lot yet, need to reserve time slot with our designer. )
13:28 markyosullivan: I'm not sure if they do, this is the first time I've used them so I don't know how to optimise their performance in apps
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14:06 NeoFrontier: Which is the most accepted way in America to write 87,6 Degrees F ? 0r 87.6 with a dot ?
14:09 shmooooz: yes
14:09 pifon1: .
14:09 pifon1: dont think u use degrees with F
14:09 pifon1: its only used with C
14:10 NeoFrontier: A dot it is.
14:10 NeoFrontier: :)
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14:10 NeoFrontier: But I see the degrees symbol everywhere with F also.
14:10 NeoFrontier: like with C.
14:11 pifon1: WAIT nevermind
14:11 pifon1: i was thinking of Kelvin
14:11 NeoFrontier: ah
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14:26 squ: https://github.com/googlesamples/google-services/issues/26
14:26 squ: I like how the google guy didn't answer the question
14:26 squ: his last reply was: " let us know if you have any suggestions"
14:27 squ: :)
14:27 squ: after which there are 20 or so complaints
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14:41 astroduck: cl
14:42 astroduck: I am using a RecyclerView in Dialog and its all elements are width match_parent, but they still appear as wrap_content
14:43 astroduck: Scrolling them in and out of view, essentially recycling them, makes them match_parent
14:43 astroduck: Anyone has any idea why?
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15:08 asimas: astroduck, sounds like the parent's width is not known when RecyclerView (and its children) is created. Try delaying the inflation.
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15:27 varesa: Does android update an app if I send an .apk with a newer version?
15:27 varesa: keeping preferences, etc.
15:29 pduin: Yes, if the new version is signed with the same key
15:30 varesa: And if it's unsigned?
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15:31 pduin: AFAIK, it's always signed
15:31 asimas: varesa, if it's unsigned you can't upload to play store.
15:31 pduin: If not with the release key, then it's signed with the debug key
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15:31 varesa: ah okay. In android studio there is "Build APK" and "Generate signed APK"
15:32 pduin: Build -> debug key, Generate signed -> release key
15:32 varesa: yeah, makes sense
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15:33 varesa: asimas, this app is not in and will not go to play store
15:33 varesa: just a one-off for a very specific application
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15:34 varesa: So if I send the user a new version from "Build APK" (since that is what I first used) it'll update and keep preferences?
15:35 pduin: Yes
15:35 varesa: cool, thanks
15:35 pduin: And if it does not, it will warn you
15:36 asimas: varesa, just make sure you build from the same machine. If the debug keys differ it won't let the user update the app.
15:36 varesa: yeah, of course
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15:37 varesa: I've forgotten quite a lot. I last touched android developent when 2.2/2.3 was new :)
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15:38 tx: I touch it daily
15:38 tx: we're great friends. ;)
15:39 asimas: Quite a lot has changed so you can say that you're learning not remembering :)
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15:42 varesa: Android studio feels much better than eclipse
15:42 varesa: got to love jetbrains IDEs
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15:42 Ashiren: then he will find about about gradle..
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15:44 asimas: Gradle is awesome too :)
15:45 tx: Have you tried out instant run?
15:45 tx: It's great until it's not.
15:46 varesa: what did android use in the 2.x times? ant? maven?
15:46 varesa: I don't even remember anymore
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15:46 asimas: tx, I have it disabled tyvm :D
15:47 tx: maven
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15:49 Ashiren: the eclipse's green arrow
15:50 freebyte: How can I add a view in a coordinator layout and align it to bottom programatically?
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15:52 Ashiren: set layout_gravity to bottom programmatically
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15:53 Ashiren:         CoordinatorLayout.LayoutParams params = new CoordinatorLayout.LayoutParams(...);
15:53 Ashiren:         params.gravity = Gravity.BOTTOM;
15:53 Ashiren:         coordinatorLayout.addView(theView,params);
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