omgbot@live.com says (10:13PM):
is he not allowed in his vemt?
J.T. says (10:14PM):
he-is
Sai  says (10:14PM):
we would just like ot know why...or ALL times he could choose to come here...to NAVI's vent, at this specific moment, when this is happening...
J.T. says (10:14PM):
but-the-fact-is
J.T. says (10:14PM):
i-dont-think-he-should
J.T. says (10:14PM):
but-its-navs-ventrilo
omgbot@live.com says (10:14PM):
idk y.
omgbot@live.com says (10:14PM):
i don't control josh. i never will.
omgbot@live.com says (10:15PM):
i fell as if you two think that that im a bad person, when really im just confused.
Sai  says (10:15PM):
I've heard that before
omgbot@live.com says (10:15PM):
yesterday navi said; you choose suicidal over strong mided.
omgbot@live.com says (10:15PM):
and it got me thinking.
omgbot@live.com says (10:15PM):
maybe i am making a wrong choic.e
J.T. says (10:16PM):
=\
Sai  says (10:16PM):
think of it this way....you knew somehting you were doing was hurting Navi, instead of stopping everything to find out what you are doing is hurting the man you claim to love, you continue.
J.T. says (10:16PM):
*sigh*
omgbot@live.com says (10:16PM):
exactly why it's my fault he's leaving msn.
Sai  says (10:16PM):
i have seen this destroy too many of my friends
Sai  says (10:16PM):
THEN BACK THE FUCK OFF AND LET HIM HEAL
Sai  says (10:16PM):
STOP BRINGING IT TO HIM
J.T. says (10:16PM):
He-still-loves-you-in-one-way!

omgbot@live.com says (10:16PM):
cause im too lazy to call him, i can't get on that irc he goes on, and i almost never go on vent anymore.
J.T. says (10:16PM):
GOD-DAMN
Sai  says (10:17PM):
STOP REMINDING HIM OF THE PAIN
Sai  says (10:17PM):
BACK OFF
J.T. says (10:17PM):
HE-STILL-LOVES-YOU-FOR-SOME-CRAZY-REASON
J.T. says (10:17PM):
I-DONT-KNOW-WHY
Sai  says (10:17PM):
its simple, at this moment, you hurt him, somehow some way. so leave him to heal, he will come if and when he is ready to
J.T. says (10:17PM):
DO-YOU-UNDERSTAND-THAT
J.T. says (10:18PM):
THATS-ONE-REASON-I-TOLD-YOU-TO-COME-OVER-TO-THIS-VENT
omgbot@live.com says (10:18PM):
he lied to me and said i didnt hurt him anymore. and then he said "no tell me whats on your mind" so i did. i told him everything. eerything that was on my mind. i get blamed for something he told me to do.
Sai  says (10:18PM):
until then, are only putting salt on his wounds
J.T. says (10:18PM):
im-done
J.T. says (10:18PM):
sai
J.T. says (10:18PM):
you-do-this

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omgbot@live.com says (10:18PM):
do what?
Sai  says (10:18PM):
try and knowck some sense into you
omgbot@live.com says (10:18PM):
too bad the only person who can is navi himself.
omgbot@live.com says (10:18PM):
unless you can word like him.
omgbot@live.com says (10:19PM):
u h8 me anyways.
Sai  says (10:19PM):
yes, but going to him to fix your problems when you are causing him problems isnt teh answer
Sai  says (10:19PM):
you are taking advantage of him
Sai  says (10:19PM):
i dont hate you, i hate what you are doing
omgbot@live.com says (10:19PM):
which im trying not to.
Sai  says (10:19PM):
you are crushing one of my damn good friends
Sai  says (10:19PM):
i hate hearing how much you hurt him
Sai  says (10:19PM):
and the last time i spoke to you, i told you that
Sai  says (10:20PM):
do you remember thjat convo?
omgbot@live.com says (10:20PM):
yes.
omgbot@live.com says (10:20PM):
and i cried. cause iknew it was true.
Sai  says (10:20PM):
"&no. i guess after all the shit i threw @ him. i shouldnt even talk to him. so meh."
Sai  says (10:20PM):
that was your answer there
Sai  says (10:20PM):
your words
Sai  says (10:20PM):
and you knew it
Sai  says (10:20PM):
you just told me you did
Sai  says (10:20PM):
so WHY did you continue
omgbot@live.com says (10:20PM):
i cant stand hurting people. and then im hurting myself trying not to hurt others.
Sai  says (10:20PM):
WHY did you let yourself keep hurting him when you CLAIM t love him
omgbot@live.com says (10:21PM):
idk.
Sai  says (10:21PM):
FIND OUT
Sai  says (10:21PM):
AND DONT USE NAVI
omgbot@live.com says (10:21PM):
how.
omgbot@live.com says (10:21PM):
do i find out.
Sai  says (10:21PM):
back off and look at yourself
Sai  says (10:21PM):
this isnt somethign that someone else can fix
Sai  says (10:21PM):
YOU ahve to do it alone
Sai  says (10:22PM):
first thing, STOP HURTIG HIM BY BACKING AWAY
Sai  says (10:22PM):
i think i have said it enough this time for you to get it
Sai  says (10:23PM):
you are the one who first said you shouldnt talk to him. Listen to yourself for once, not someone else.
omgbot@live.com says (10:23PM):
tbh. im not strong enough to stop talking to him.
Sai  says (10:23PM):
you have to be if you love him like you claim to
Sai  says (10:24PM):
if you truly want to stop hurting him, you will put yourself through anything.
Sai  says (10:24PM):
i know, because i have done it for the person i love
Sai  says (10:24PM):
this is why i scoffed when you told me you loved him, this is why i say you 'claim to love him'
Sai  says (10:25PM):
you desire him by you, but in truth, i see nothing more.
Sai  says (10:25PM):
he has tried and done so much for you. the elation in his voice when he USED to speak about you was hiunting at something close to love, but i dont see that in you
Sai  says (10:25PM):
i have seen it, i have helped it, i have lived it
Sai  says (10:26PM):
if you do love him, show him by solving this. if you love him you will do whatever is needed to keep him safe and happy
Sai  says (10:26PM):
the words 'i would do anything for you' arent used in every fucking love movie for nothing
Sai  says (10:28PM):
you claim, now do it.
Sai  says (10:29PM):
has it hit you yet? What you need to do?
omgbot@live.com says (10:30PM):
yea. kill myself so i can stop hurting the ones i love.
Sai  says (10:30PM):
no, that will only hurt them more.
Sai  says (10:30PM):
you have to find out what inside YOU is making you hurt them.
Sai  says (10:31PM):
call it 'finding yourself' call it 'soul searching' call it 'pickle' for all i care. just do it
omgbot@live.com says (10:31PM):
can i at least find out what makes them like me first.
omgbot@live.com says (10:31PM):
i honestly see nothing about me attractive.
Sai  says (10:31PM):
that will only get in the way, because no one but him will know that answer, and going to him now, can only hurt more
Sai  says (10:32PM):
i see no reason why my husband loves me, i know he does and thats all i need to
Sai  says (10:35PM):
Navi is seperating himself for more than one reason. Yes, people tend to use him, yes, people tend to bug him. But he also needs to spend time working for himself, taking care of Navi. What you need to do is find out who you are.
Sai  says (10:35PM):
find out who you are. why you are that way. and then think of the things you do, and why you do them. then think of the reaction you cause, and why they are caused.
Sai  says (10:36PM):
like i said, you cant get help on this. it has to be you.
omgbot@live.com says (10:36PM):
meh.
Sai  says (10:38PM):
I have said all I can. Now its your turn to do as you see fit. Continuing as you are is the easy route, as always. But searching for these answers now are probably what you need to make the things you go for later easier forever. I'm not saying it will fix anything, but its a way of showing that you care like you claim to. That you are willing to try.
Sai  says (10:39PM):
ok, im gone now. do as you see fit.
omgbot@live.com says (10:41PM):
bye.