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Transcript of Enigma Hood Interview W/ Kody Maxson and Gei

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  1. The following is a supplement to a post devoted to celebrity hacking, #TheFappening ring, and The Daily Capper predator ring, which can be found here:
  2. https://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/irving-wallaces-the-fan-club-the-fappening/
  3.  
  4. Transcript of "Amanda Todd's Bully Kody Maxson FULL UNCUT INTERVIEW", interview of Kody Maxson and Geissell Morall by Enigma Hood.
  5.  
  6. Video can be found on youtube:
  7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapjJYAEoU
  8.  
  9. EH=Enigma Hood, G=Gei [Geissell Morall], KM=Kody Maxson,
  10.  
  11. KM: Anyways...Looooooook, I'm trying to fix my bed. The fuck.
  12.  
  13. G: Yeah, that's him.
  14.  
  15. EH: Okay.
  16.  
  17. G: He can't hear you though.
  18.  
  19. EH: You can't hear me at all?
  20.  
  21. G: He's like...I don't know what's wrong. Kody?
  22.  
  23. KM: What?
  24.  
  25. G: Okay. Can you...is it like, fucked up for you? Or can you...can you hear? Everything?
  26.  
  27. KM: I can hear somewhat, yeah.
  28.  
  29. G: Alright.
  30.  
  31. EH: Can you hear me?
  32.  
  33. KM: Yeah. A little bit.
  34.  
  35. EH: Okay. So, you said you wanted to tell me your side of the story?
  36.  
  37. KM: Not really. More pissed off at the fact that you talking all this shit and you don't know anything, just listening to the media.
  38.  
  39. EH: Okay, I mean...if you want to tell me anything I don't know, then...tell me. I mean, all I know right now is what the media says. So, if you have something...
  40.  
  41. KM: What I'm saying, what the cops are saying is, I'm not even been a suspect. Yet people are stilllllllllllllll...jumping on the giant bandwagon, so to speak. On the whooooooooole "let's all kill Kody Maxson" and yadda yadda yadda, and shit like that, you know what I mean?
  42.  
  43. EH: Did you know Amanda Todd?
  44.  
  45. KM: (Unintelligible.)
  46.  
  47. EH: Did you know Amanda Todd?
  48.  
  49. KM: I knew her, for a bit.
  50.  
  51. EH: What was your relationship?
  52.  
  53. KM: Just a friend.
  54.  
  55. EH: So you knew Amanda Todd, she was a friend...and what did you guys talk about?
  56.  
  57. KM: Just her Youtube videos and shit.
  58.  
  59. EH: And that's it. Did you get indicted?
  60.  
  61. KM: Indicted? What the fuck does that mean? Why would I be indicted too?
  62.  
  63. EH: Did the prosecutor choose to press charges against you?
  64.  
  65. KM: For what?
  66.  
  67. EH: For revealing Amanda Todd's pictures. Did you have pictures of Amanda Todd topless?
  68.  
  69. KM: One, I wasn't charged in the first place, I wasn't even a suspect...cops gave a public...
  70.  
  71. EH: I missed the last part.
  72.  
  73. KM: Oooooooooh, about a month ago, saying I'm not a suspect, not a person of interest. I'm not facing any charges.
  74.  
  75. EH: Okay. Do you have, or did you have photos of Amanda Todd topless?
  76.  
  77. KM: Uh...never did, never wanted them, ever really knew about them, to be honest with you.
  78.  
  79. EH: Okay. So, then...how did Anonymous find you? Why did they think you are involved with Amanda Todd? And were the one who was revealing-
  80.  
  81. KM: Because I pissed them off?
  82.  
  83. EH: You pissed off Anonymous?
  84.  
  85. KM: (laughs)
  86.  
  87. EH: How?
  88.  
  89. KM: Because of the shit I was doing to them, and all the concerned hacking there's on-line.
  90.  
  91. EH: So...they don't have any evidence against you?
  92.  
  93. KM: No.
  94.  
  95. EH: Okay, so tell me-
  96.  
  97. KM: Otherwise I'd be in jail right now. But I'm not. Nor am I facing charges.
  98.  
  99. EH: What, like, where are you right now? Are you in Florida?
  100.  
  101. KM: Nope.
  102.  
  103. EH: Are you in Canada?
  104.  
  105. KM: No.
  106.  
  107. EH: Where are you?
  108.  
  109. KM: I'm in Cuba.
  110.  
  111. EH: Why are you in Cuba?
  112.  
  113. KM: Because I like it there. I've been there a few times before, and, I dunno, it's a great place. It's hot and sunny...I like the (unintelligible). I don't like that.
  114.  
  115. EH: Okay. So. I mean, right now, I'm not really hearing anything that seems exculpatory of you're innocent. From what I've heard from the media, and from what Anonymous has been saying is that you knew Amanda Todd, and you admit that. You knew Amanda Todd. And...apparently you were the one that had these photographs of her topless, and I mean, you're basically just saying that you don't have them. I mean...but if you're lying, you would say the exact same thing.
  116.  
  117. KM: Say that again?
  118.  
  119. EH: From what we've been hearing in the media, I mean, you were upset about the fact that I made that video and that I was just believing what the media said...but apparently, Giselle believes that you are innocent, but I haven't heard a thing that makes me change my mind about you. I mean, what exactly...I don't understand...
  120.  
  121. KM: All you've been hearing are rumors, with no hardcore evidence to back it up.
  122.  
  123. EH: What Giselle told me...made me believe that you're guilty. I want to know what made her change her mind. Giselle? You don't believe that Kody's guilty anymore?
  124.  
  125. G: No.
  126.  
  127. EH: What made you change your mind?
  128.  
  129. G: First of all...there...what did I think before? I clearly said that there was...parts of me that didn't believe he would do it. And there's others that did. What made me change my mind completely, as to the whole topic, was that he (sigh) It's hard, like I told you before, me and Kody have had many relationships in the past, I know when he's lying, I know when he's fine...and really, honestly, it's hard to explain, but what changed my mind about it, like...completely, was the fact that...if he were guilty, he wouldn't be talking to me, I don't think.
  130.  
  131. EH: But that's not really...like, evidence that he didn't do it, though, I mean...
  132.  
  133. G: Well, where's the evidence that he did?
  134.  
  135. EH: Well, that's true, I mean, I'm just going based on what Anonymous has said, and the evidence that they have provided.
  136.  
  137. KM: Quick question. You're believing Anonymous, a group that hides behind a computer...has no real name or contact information...but Twitter...yet you're speaking to me, and you still don't believe me? I'm not saying you have to believe me, I'm just saying, you know, it makes no sense whatsoever.
  138.  
  139. EH: I'm just saying that...I don't really have...I'm not convinced, is what I'm saying. Um, and what Giselle has told me before, that you, she told me that you knew about pedophilia websites and things like that.
  140.  
  141. G: He's been everywhere, all over the website, over the internet. Like, honestly, it's...now that I look back on it, I mean, I didn't take the position then that I took afterwards. And now, I mean, I'm still kinda meh about it. Like, I don't know how to feel towards it. Buuuut...I mean, I dunno...as long as...I mean, if he honestly was a pedophile of some sort, and had watched these things before...I'm sure that...somebody noticed...
  142.  
  143. EH: Well, Kody, my question is, um, what were you doing on these pedophile websites?
  144.  
  145. KM: I don't know what you're referring to.
  146.  
  147. EH: I'm referring to what Giselle told me before. She said that you knew about pedophile websites.
  148.  
  149. G: (sighs) Kody, he's talking about the ones you were registered on. The ones that...in the articles, remember when there were like...?
  150.  
  151. KM: Yeah...
  152.  
  153. G: In the...talking about jailbait and stuff.
  154.  
  155. KM: No. I never read that.
  156.  
  157. G: Oh.
  158.  
  159. KM: Can you update me?
  160.  
  161. G: Yes. There was one where you have an active account on. Jailbait.
  162.  
  163. EH: So?
  164.  
  165. KM: Oh. I didn't know that. Don't know.
  166.  
  167. EH: You don't know? Okay. Ummmm...Giselle also told me that you and a group of people beat some guy up with a baseball bat? Is that true?
  168.  
  169. KM: What?
  170.  
  171. G: He's talking about the story that Jack told me.
  172.  
  173. KM: You listen to Jack of all people?
  174.  
  175. G: Yeah. He told me that.
  176.  
  177. KM: Jack's a head.
  178.  
  179. EH: So, you never beat anyone up?
  180.  
  181. KM: No, never. I'm a very nice guy. Well, not a nice guy, you get on my bad side, I'm not going to talk to you, but I'm not going to beat someone up for no reason.
  182.  
  183. EH: Well, you told me...you admitted, this is what you said, that you have had conflicts with at least Anonymous? So...I mean, I'm a little curious, I mean...what's the deal with...
  184.  
  185. KM: Say that again. I've had conflicts with who?
  186.  
  187. EH: You told me you have gone into a problem with Anonymous. They don't like you. So, I mean...it seems...
  188.  
  189. KM: Not a problem I can't deal with on the internet.
  190.  
  191. EH: Well, it seems consistent with what Giselle has been telling me about you. That you beat somebody up with a baseball bat.
  192.  
  193. G: (laughs)
  194.  
  195. EH: That you were causing some problems with some people.
  196.  
  197. G: Anyone-
  198.  
  199. KM: I mean, again, go on-line and look up all my charges.
  200.  
  201. EH: Okay, but I'm just asking you, so you're saying you never beat anybody up with a baseball bat? Kody?
  202.  
  203. [KODY LEFT...FAST FORWARD A FEW MINUTES...]
  204.  
  205. EH: Say again?
  206.  
  207. G: Kody doesn't really want to talk about it anymore.
  208.  
  209. EH: So he just decided to...bail out on me.
  210.  
  211. G: I mean, if you guys want to talk, we have to base it off of...your questions. Not anything I've said in the past, because it's making him feel uncomfortable.
  212.  
  213. EH: Well, I mean, that's pretty much all I have to go on, I mean, it seems, I'm confused about what made you convinced that he's innocent now. I mean, you told me a lot of stuff that really seemed compelling.
  214.  
  215. G: Well, at the time...like I said before, at the time, I was going with what the media said. And...I told you even before that there was some doubt in my head...that I wasn't 100% sure. Aaaaand...
  216.  
  217. EH: But what did he say to you that made you believe he was innocent?
  218.  
  219. G: Well, I mean, what did he say to me? Just explained. It wasn't like solid evidence or anything, but. At the same time, there is no solid evidence that he did it. So, I don't need like...anything like that.
  220.  
  221. EH: So don't you think that maybe your belief that he was innocent was mostly emotional?
  222.  
  223. G: Yeah. I mean...I guess. Hold on a second. Hello, what do you want! Kody. KODY. Quit. Kody quit. Hold on. WHAT. Hold on. (pause) Alright, hello?
  224.  
  225. EH: Yeah.
  226.  
  227. G: Alrighty. He was bugging me.
  228.  
  229. EH: What's he saying?
  230.  
  231. G: He wasn't saying anything.
  232.  
  233. EH: Is he really in Cuba?
  234.  
  235. G: Is he really in Cuba? I don't know.
  236.  
  237. EH: You told me he was in Key West before.
  238.  
  239. G: I must have misunderstood him. That's why. Whatever he told you is what he told you.
  240.  
  241. EH: So what's he saying now?
  242.  
  243. G: What's he saying now. Uuuuuh...he was thinking about something, and then he changed his mind.
  244.  
  245. EH: Is he coming back?
  246.  
  247. G: Uh, no, I don't think he's coming back.
  248.  
  249. EH: Okay. So, I mean, he's in Florida, right?
  250.  
  251. G: He's in Florida...I don't know. I don't think he is, I must have misunderstood him, when he said Cuba. I don't actually know where he's at.
  252.  
  253. EH: (laughs) I think he's in Florida. Uh...are you two together now, or something? I mean...
  254.  
  255. G: Are we together, what do you mean, by together?
  256.  
  257. EH: Are you boyfriend and girlfriend?
  258.  
  259. G: Um...hold on. (laughs) That's complicated. No, we're not.
  260.  
  261. EH: Okay.
  262.  
  263. G: We're just close friends as we were before.
  264.  
  265. EH: Are you taking care of him, or anything, like, uh...
  266.  
  267. G: No. We're not physically together.
  268.  
  269. EH: Okay. So ummmm, I mean, I'm kinda bewildered, he was upset at me for buying into what the media said, and I'm not convinced otherwise, right now. Ummmm...I still think he's just a...it's actually, I'm more...
  270.  
  271. G: You're more inclined to believe that he was guilty.
  272.  
  273. EH: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's-
  274.  
  275. G: Why is that so?
  276.  
  277. EH: Uh...his behavior is very suspicious. He admitted that he at least knows Amanda Todd. He knew her. I mean...
  278.  
  279. G: Yeah. He did know her. But he didn't know her personally.
  280.  
  281. EH: Well, the allegation wasn't even that. It was, the allegation was, the guy who only knew her through the internet, and through...he somehow got her photos.
  282.  
  283. G: Here we go.
  284.  
  285. EH: Mmmmhmmm.
  286.  
  287. G: Kody's saying that he knew her for a while, about for a year...he started helping her on-line. Because she was getting blackmailed by other people that aren't Kody. That were on Youtube, and et cetera.
  288.  
  289. EH: So she knew these guys through Youtube?
  290.  
  291. G: Yeah. She knew them through Youtube.
  292.  
  293. EH: Okay. So he's not coming back, I mean, are you just talking to him over the phone?
  294.  
  295. G: Yeah, yes. He's not...Kody, are you coming back? To the call? He said, "I don't know." (laughs) I don't think he is, though.
  296.  
  297. EH: I mean, tell him to come back, you know, I mean, if he's innocent, let's get this squared away. I mean, I want to understand.
  298.  
  299. G: He wants you to come back, to declare your innocence or whatever. (pause) Kody, I'm not telling him that. (pause) No. (pause) He says he doesn't have to prove his innocence to anyone.
  300.  
  301. EH: (laughs) Then why did he contact me?
  302.  
  303. G: He just doesn't want you...hold on a second, he didn't want you to, in any way, have a, not take the videos down or anything, but I mean, add to anything that the media might have said, because it's not true. You know, there are faulty...
  304.  
  305. EH: Well, I don't know if it's true unless he's able to convince me. I mean, if he is innocent-
  306.  
  307. G: Even if it were to be true...the way that you said...the comments was what upset him the most. Not what you said, but how you said it.
  308.  
  309. EH: So, even if he's guilty...he doesn't like me saying those things?
  310.  
  311. But the thing is, that...he says he isn't guilty.
  312.  
  313. EH: If he's guilty, I mean, like, that strikes me as very bizarre. Like...
  314.  
  315. G: Right now you're playing the if game. You don't know whether he is or isn't, so you have to base it off of that. You can't just...like, if I would have known that Kody was guilty, I would probably have been like, I would probably have treated the situation differently, but since I didn't know, I didn't insult him, and I didn't judge him, which is what people need to do. And I said that in my video, I didn't judge Kody, 1) because I loved Kody and 2) because I didn't know the entire thing.
  316.  
  317. EH: Well, I can say that if he is guilty...I don't take back anything I said. I think that he deserves to be punished, if he is responsible...and he, at least I know this much, he knew Amanda Todd. And I'm very suspicious of him. I'm not convinced that he's not guilty. I'm not convinced that he's innocent. At all. I think he did it, and I...Giselle you told me things. You told me things, like all this stuff about the baseball bat, and going on these pedophile sites...
  318.  
  319. G: Well maybe...the second part, but the first part he had nothing to do with. I've had physical, uh, you know, issues with other people. I've been in fights before, but that doesn't mean I'm capable of harming somebody, in that way. It doesn't mean anything.
  320.  
  321. EH: It's kinda suspicious, though. What was he doing talking to a fourteen year old girl? What was he doing talking to Amanda Todd in the first place?
  322.  
  323. G: He's not thirty-two, though. That's the thing.
  324.  
  325. EH: How old is he?
  326.  
  327. G: He's nineteen.
  328.  
  329. EH: Wait a minute. He's nineteen?
  330.  
  331. G: Mmmmhmmm.
  332.  
  333. EH: That's not what we've been told.
  334.  
  335. G: Yeah, that isn't what you've been told. That's what I've been told, and that's what I know. Now the thing is, I'm not going to get into this, you know, because I'm kinda fed up with the whole thing, you know, I've been impacted by this many ways, since I've spoken to you...you know, I'm not going to talk about it anymore, as, into detail, because I can't, really. I'm not legally allowed to.
  336.  
  337. EH: K, I'm just saying, you know, that's fine, if you don't want to talk about it, that's fine, I'm just saying I'm not convinced. I'm naturally more-
  338.  
  339. G: What would it take to convince you? I mean, even if he said he didn't know Amanda Todd, there would be evidence pointing that he did know Amanda Todd. Because he did say many times that he didn't know her. But...just because you know somebody, doesn't mean you'd have done that. Now, I'm not saying he didn't, and I'm not saying he did, I'm just...kindof...neutral about the whole situation.
  340.  
  341. EH: You're neutral about what?
  342.  
  343. G: Look...what...(pause)...Kody decided to say that, "Just because he knew her, does that make everyone else who knew her guilty too?"
  344.  
  345. EH: Well, the fact that Anonymous was able to point him out, and they were able to point out, and they were able to point out correctly...
  346.  
  347. G: Anonymous, for one, let me just say...didn't have the correct address...so Anonymous isn't really that powerful as you think they are. Second of all, Anonymous doesn't have shit on Kody, it's just because they said that they could have pointed him out, where's the evidence? Where are the Facebook messages that he did? Where are the things that you said he put up on Facebook? Where is the physical, like, proof that he would have done...everybody's pointing fingers, but no one can actually clarify it. So that's why we want to get it as across as...
  348.  
  349. EH: Well, the thing is, though, we're suspicious...that's why we're asking questions. I mean, there is a lot of suspicion surrounding Kody. We want answers, and he's not answering anything. He's just saying that he's not guilty...I mean, that's not good enough. Not now.
  350.  
  351. G: Uh...I dunno. It's just...it's a complicated...fuck it...
  352.  
  353. EH: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, he contacted me, he said I was saying things that weren't true, I'm actually more suspicious than I was before, and I...
  354.  
  355. G: Because you actually got to speak to Kody, and, you know...Kody is actually like I said before, when you spoke to me...I said he was a caring, nice person...but he does have his moments where he is...it could turn sour, but it wouldn't be like that, and like I said before, if Kody were to do something like this...he wouldn't do it, for someone to commit harm. At the same time, he wouldn't do something like that. It's very complicated. Kody would blackmail, but not to that extent.
  356.  
  357. EH: But you said he would blackmail, okay, the blackmailing, you told me before, he would do something like, uh, spread somebody's photos because he thought it would be funny. I mean, obviously, he didn't know that she would commit suicide...but he would...it was in his character to do something like that.
  358.  
  359. G: I said, if he was guilty, that would be the reason. I didn't say that was the reason.
  360.  
  361. EH: But you...that's not what I'm talking about. I'm just saying, in his character, he would think something like that was funny, right?
  362.  
  363. G: If he were guilty, yeah.
  364.  
  365. EH: Alright. Alright, I mean, (sighs) I don't know what else I can ask if he's refusing to talk to me or answer any questions.
  366.  
  367. G: I mean, he's answering them. That's why I keep saying hold the phone, because he's actually telling me, some of the things he's telling me, I don't say, because they're kindof...
  368.  
  369. EH: Well, he should just talk to me...I don't know why he needs you to relay his answers, I mean, he can talk to me directly.
  370.  
  371. G: I don't want Kody...one of the reasons why I kindof, asked him, he doesn't want to talk to you anymore and I kindof asked him just thinking that, to get it over with, because...I don't want Kody to say anything like...lose his temper, or anything like that. Me, I'm more of a mellow speaker, and I can tell you something and...I interpret things differently than he does.
  372.  
  373. EH: Well, I know what you're afraid of...you're afraid that he's going to lose his anger and probably incriminate himself.
  374.  
  375. G: Incriminate himself. I don't think Kody would...I honestly...there's nothing to incriminate himself with. He's just...I don't, I just don't want him to lose his temper, say things that he doesn't mean, or anything like that.
  376.  
  377. EH: Well, I mean if the worst is that he's going to be mean, I can handle it. I've handled a lot worse.
  378.  
  379. G: I'm sure. I saw videos about you today.
  380.  
  381. EH: Yeah.
  382.  
  383. G: Yeah. I'm sure.
  384.  
  385. EH: So? If he doesn't want to talk, I can't make him. Um, I've heard your side of the story, I've heard his, whatever story he had to say, which  wasn't much. And as far as I'm concerned, I mean, the only thing that convinced you was just an emotional play. And it seems to me like you are emotionally invested in him. I mean, I don't know what kind of relationship you two have.
  386.  
  387. G: We are friends. But...I will always care for him...that is the thing, you said, I'm emotionally invested in Kody...I will always be. We are friends. That's how it is going to be, that's how it has been.
  388.  
  389. EH: Alright, if that's it, I don't have nay more questions...if he doesn't want to talk to me...but, thank you...for at least contacting me in some form. Uh, but uh...that's all I have to say.
  390.  
  391. G: I dunno if he would talk to you in the future, I mean, right now, we're talking interactive healing...as well. Um, I don't know if you've seen this video...
  392.  
  393. EH: Yeah yeah, I know.
  394.  
  395. G: Yeah. And you know, he's not, right now, we're not willing, not interested in talking about in detail, we just want people to kindof, you know, be like, well, we don't really know for sure if he did it, why are we accusing him of such a way.
  396.  
  397. EH: I mean, you understand that doesn't even really make sense, I mean you want to talk to all these people, hey hey don't say these things about us, but...I mean just saying that only makes us more suspicious because you don't want to answer questions to prove your innocence.
  398.  
  399. G: We, okay I'll tell you why I don't want to answer questions...first of all, I'm being investigated by the FBI. So, I can't really say much, even if I wanted to.
  400.  
  401. EH: Mmmmhmmm.
  402.  
  403. G: Secondly...it's, I feel like anything I say kindof, I mean, I want to protect myself and Kody. You know, there's nothing to incriminate Kody, but I just don't want people to twist things around.
  404.  
  405. EH: But why is the FBI investigating you, though?
  406.  
  407. G: Because...why is the FBI...um...because...they're looking for...you know, evidence against Kody.
  408.  
  409. EH: Did...is it, when you went to the school and submitted all of your evidence...they have that evidence?
  410.  
  411. G: Yeah, that's why they're investigating me. Because...for that reason.
  412.  
  413. EH: And that...like I'm still unsure what's going on in Canada. Are they pressing charges against him? I mean, you can tell me that, right?
  414.  
  415. G: They're not pressing charges against him.
  416.  
  417. EH: They dropped all the charges?
  418.  
  419. G: There were never charges against him in the first place.
  420.  
  421. EH: So then, why'd you tell me he was out on bail? They arrested him though, right?
  422.  
  423. G: Yeah, but I mean...they did, because, you know, of the whole thing, but he's out, because they're just investigating him. They didn't charge him. He wasn't charged with anything.
  424.  
  425. EH: Okay. They arrested him, then they let him go, because they didn't have any charges against him.
  426.  
  427. G: Yeah.
  428.  
  429. EH: Okay. What did Interactive Healing have to say?
  430.  
  431. G: Interactive Healing...he took it much better than you did. As far as I read the messages between them. Um, cause when he got another computer, or whatever, or phone or something...they started messaging each other. And, you know, I didn't...when I first messaged Interactive Healing, I messaged you both...but from what I read he's taking it much better than you.
  432.  
  433. EH: Well, he's a nice guy, I'm more of a straight to the facts kindof guy.
  434.  
  435. G: Yeah, he's a...he's just willing to listen to what Kody has to say. And he's not really, you know, judging him. From what I read.
  436.  
  437. EH: Well, that's fine, if Kody just wants to say something, and doesn't want me to ask any questions, that's fine too. I mean, I was actually waiting for him to say something. You know, you want to tell me your side of the story. And then he kinda just sat there and didn't say anything. You know.
  438.  
  439. G: Kody...he's not really that type of person. I mean, it also has to do with Kody...like, if you had known Kody personally, that was just something that he normally does.
  440.  
  441. EH: I got the impression from those messages, and he told me he wanted to talk to me...I got the impression that he wanted to tell me his side of the story...you know.
  442.  
  443. G: Mmmmhmmm. You know...I messaged you those things, but everything came out of his mouth. I don't know why he...doesn't want to speak to you. I really don't. I feel like it's a protection thing, maybe he's just over the whole subject. I don't know. I mean...
  444.  
  445. EH: Alright, here's the thing. If he changes his mind, let me know.
  446.  
  447. G: Alrighty.
  448.  
  449. EH: Okay.
  450.  
  451. G: Well, it was nice speaking to you, I guess.
  452.  
  453. EH: It was nice speaking to you again. If you want to talk to me, you know without Kody...that's fine too. Just let me know.
  454.  
  455. G: Alright. That'd be great.
  456.  
  457. EH: Okay.
  458.  
  459. G: Alright. Bye bye.
  460.  
  461. EH: Bye.
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