Wikiproject-BPL meeting 14/9/2013

[14:36] (@Pratyya) We need to arrange an election.
[14:37] (@Pratyya) then our articles are in a bad state.
[14:37] (@Pratyya) We don't have anything active works.
[14:37] (@Pratyya) We don't have any FA or Fl.
[14:37] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:
[14:37] (@Mdann52) Right - the election should be dealt with first, then the articles
[14:38] (@Pratyya) now what should be th eprocess?
[14:38] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:  and Sourov0000
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[14:39] (+Sourov0000) Well guys, if I am not interrupting, then I would like to ask some questions as I am not good at some topics. What is actually FA and Fl
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[14:40] (@Pratyya) Featured Article (FA) Featured List (FL) Sourov0000
[14:40] (+guest6668) Pratyya, nominations, then support/oppose !votes
[14:40] (+Sourov0000) Thanks Pratyya
[14:40] (@Pratyya) I understand but we need process. How'll it work?
[14:41] (@Pratyya) Who'll be the candidates? guest6668
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[14:41] (+Sourov0000) And who will vote?
[14:41] (+Mdann52) Pratyya, anyone who wants to
[14:41] (@Pratyya) good question Sourov0000
[14:41] (+Mdann52) Sourov0000, anyone
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[14:42] (@Pratyya) how'll the voting process run?
[14:42] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:
[14:42] (@Pratyya) do we need any questions like RFA?
[14:42] (@Pratyya) or just voting?
[14:42] (@Mdann52) Subpage, and for a week
[14:43] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, maybe a discussion heading too....
[14:43] (+Sourov0000) But on the present situation on the project, I hardly found anyone participate on any topic except two or three members.
[14:44] (@Pratyya) yes I know, we have 4 active candidates who could be the candidates.
[14:44] (@Pratyya) But when we are running votes we'll ask others to vote.
[14:44] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:  and Sourov0000
[14:44] (@Mdann52) Yes - I'll send some edwardsbot spam out
[14:45] (+Sourov0000) Well, that's a good idea. @Pratyya
[14:45] (@Mdann52) Fyi, my battery will die any second.... :/
[14:46] (@Mdann52) Anyway, onto articles....
[14:48] (@Pratyya) now who'll be candidates?
[14:48] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:  do you want to be one?
[14:48] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, ok
[14:48] (@Pratyya) honestly I want to be one.
[14:49] (+Sourov0000) Yes, about the articles. Before selecting candidate, it is necessary to clear the work of the nominated persons.
[14:49] (@Pratyya) then Who;ll be candidates? Me, Sourov0000  and Mdann52 ?
[14:49] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, I'll remain an adudicator if you want
[14:49] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, let people nominate
[14:49] (@Pratyya) how?!
[14:49] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:
[14:49] (@Mdann52) Theirself or others
[14:49] (+Sourov0000) the candidates won't vote, other members will cast vote only
[14:50] (@Pratyya) then everybody will nominate themselves as placeholders Mdann52 ;-)
[14:50] (@Mdann52) Yes - the "don't vote for yourself" rule :P
[14:50] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, doesn't matter
[14:50] (@Pratyya) that's so true. Mdann52
[14:51] (@Mdann52) If no-one votes, they get disqualified :)
[14:51] (@Pratyya) mean?
[14:51] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:
[14:51] (@Mdann52) They can't get in if no-one votes for them
[14:51] (+Sourov0000) What will happen if a member gets disqualified?
[14:52] (@Mdann52) Sourov0000, I didn't mean that... :/
[14:52] (@Mdann52) I meant don't get elected
[14:52] (@Pratyya) then What's our work now Mdann52 ?
[14:52] (+Sourov0000) Okay, candidate will get disqualified
[14:52] (@Mdann52) Not disqualified....
[14:53] (@Pratyya) yes, like Steward election he'll not be promoted as a placeholder.
[14:53] (@Pratyya) ami Right? Mdann52
[14:53] (+Sourov0000) Okay
[14:54] (@Mdann52) yep
[14:54] (@Pratyya) tha'll take a good amount of time Mdann52
[14:54] (@Mdann52) On the subject of articles, a to-do list would be better
[14:54] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, I'll sort it all out
[14:55] (@Pratyya) Better we active members nominate candidates, then voting.
[14:56] (@Mdann52) Yep
[14:56] (@Pratyya) now what powers will the Co-ordinators and V.Co-ordinators have ? Mdann52  and Sourov0000
[14:56] (+Sourov0000) Shall the post remain two: Vice Co-ordinator and Co-ordinator?
[14:56] (@Mdann52) No - just 1 should be ok
[14:56] (@Mdann52) They should maintain the to-do list
[14:57] (@Mdann52) And nominate an "article for improvement"
[14:58] (@Pratyya) hey Mdann52  only 1 post will increase the pressure that place holder. I think.
[14:58] (@Pratyya) sorry if I type less prepositions.
[14:58] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, Ok
[14:58] (@Pratyya) My keyboard has problems.
[14:58] (+Sourov0000) Yes, I agree with Pratyya on this
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[14:59] (@Mdann52) But the vice coord should have the same powers in theory, but they just support
[14:59] (@Pratyya) then we have 3-4 candidates on both place. The 2 highest vote gainer will be the place holders.
[15:00] (@Pratyya) in my ideology v coord should have a little less power than the coord.
[15:00] (@Pratyya) but u r right Mdann52  it is same.
[15:01] (@Mdann52) The one that gets the most votes is coord
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[15:01] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, I agree - v coord has less power in theory
[15:01] (+Sourov0000) Yes, that is a good idea. The v. coord will be eligible of doing all the tasks, but the tasks will be assigned by the co-ordinator or something like this.
[15:01] (@Pratyya) yep, good idea Mdann52
[15:02] (@Pratyya) the one gets highest vote is coord
[15:02] (@Mdann52) Yep - and they take over if the coord disappears or goes on a wikibreak or something
[15:03] (@Pratyya) and without those two the founder will do there work as I'm doing the work, is it right Mdann52 ?
[15:03] (@Mdann52) Yes - until we get round to the next election....
[15:04] (@Pratyya) what powers will have these two post?
[15:04] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:  and Sourov0000 ?
[15:05] (+Sourov0000) Yes, good question, Mdann52, please assist us in this regard
[15:05] (@Mdann52) They nominate an article for improvement, oversee any GA or FA noms, and keep the to-do list up to date
[15:06] (@Mdann52) And try and recruit new people
[15:06] (@Pratyya) v.cord can do these but with the permission of coord. am I Right Mdann52  and Sourov0000 ?
[15:07] (@Mdann52) Yes - vcoord can do them, but only if the coord is not about
[15:07] (+Sourov0000) That's sound quite right
[15:08] (@Pratyya) also they'll have all the power to make this project more available and useful?
[15:08] (@Pratyya) they can make or change rules?
[15:08] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:  Sourov0000 ?
[15:08] (+Sourov0000) Certainly
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[15:09] (+Sourov0000) But the rules mustn't have any bad impact on the project
[15:09] (+Mdann52) Yes
[15:10] (@Pratyya) that's too sure.
[15:10] (+Mdann52) That's why the project can vote to get rid of them again
[15:10] (@Pratyya) if they do this they'll be kicked :P
[15:11] (+Mdann52) Lol :P
[15:11] (+Sourov0000) Yes
[15:11] (+Mdann52) Topic banned is the correct term I think....
[15:11] (@Pratyya) now v.coord and coord will have OP here if there nick is registered.
[15:12] (+Mdann52) Yes
[15:12] (+Mdann52) Should I keep hold of it in case they break anything?
[15:13] (+Sourov0000) Yes, it will be better if you do so. Mdann52
[15:13] (+Mdann52) Ok
[15:13] (@Pratyya) we two are will be always the OP here cause we are one of the founders of this channel.
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[15:13] (@Pratyya) do u have any objection with this Sourov0000 ?
[15:14] (+Sourov0000) No, I don't have any
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[15:14] (+Mdann52) In case they do /ban *!*@* (which bans everyone :P)
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[15:15] (@Pratyya) that's true. but we can register another channel and u know after this they'll never be trusted.
[15:15] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:
[15:15] (@Mdann52) Right... any other business?
[15:16] (@Pratyya) yes. now when will our election start?
[15:16] (@Pratyya) Mdann52: ?
[15:16] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, if needby, I can get the channel back
[15:17] (@Mdann52) Pratyya, next week
[15:17] (@Mdann52) Once I sort it all out
[15:17] (+Sourov0000) We can post a Message on the Project page about the election.
[15:18] (@Pratyya) also we need a commissioner to audit and organise the election.
[15:18] (+Sourov0000) And also on the talkpage of all the members of the project.
[15:18] (@Pratyya) who'll be that person?
[15:18] (@Pratyya) Mdann52:
[15:18] (@Mdann52) I can message everyone about it
[15:18] (@Mdann52) I will
[15:18] (@Mdann52) I won't stand for it
[15:18] (@Pratyya) no worry that person can be a candidate in the election as it's open.
[15:19] (@Pratyya) you become that person. Mdann52 ?
[15:19] (+cookies52) Yes
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[15:20] (@Pratyya) Sourov0000:  any objection?
[15:20] (@cookies52) Kolega2357, you there?
[15:20] (+Kolega2357) Yes.
[15:21] (@Pratyya) now have u seen this discussion.
[15:21] (+Sourov0000) I don't have any objection.
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[15:22] (@Pratyya) then cookies52  is the Election Commissioner for our project's election.
[15:22] (@cookies52) Ok
[15:23] (@Pratyya) cookies52:  candidates will be elected by the active members or members will nominate themselves?
[15:24] (@cookies52) Yes - either self nominations or nominations by others
[15:25] (@Pratyya) which'll be easy cookies52 ?
[15:25] (+Sourov0000) Guys, I will have to leave right now as I will have to catch a bus. So, I beg all of your pardon.
[15:25] (@cookies52) No problem
[15:25] (@cookies52) Pratyya, both tbh
[15:25] (@cookies52) anything else - i need to go shortly :(
[15:25] (@Pratyya) okay I think this is the ideal time to end this meeting here.
[15:26] (@Pratyya) From now on we'll have Talk page meetings.
[15:26] (@cookies52) Ok -thanks all - I'll put the minutes up by Monday evening
[15:26] (@Pratyya) Thank you all of you for joing this meeting. Sourov0000  and cookies52  thanks to you.
[15:27] (@cookies52) No problem
[15:27] (+Sourov0000) Thanks everyone and bye.