Staff On Trolls

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14:04 - Topic: Welcome to #staff. Use this channel to discuss any technical issues (forum, IRC help, bans) or for reporting hackers and abuse. || In order to ensure the privacy of other users, you may not idle in this channel. || Please state your issue clearly and descriptively. Logs and screenshots may be requested as proof. || Don't ask to ask, just ask
14:04 - Topic was set by M!~Mystic@mystic.drdteam.org in 21.03.2012 at 02:12:57
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14:04 - 2/12/2011 9:39:27 PM
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14:11 - Dynamo set mode: +v IcyMew
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14:13 - Whois list of TheToxicAvenger
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14:16 <IcyMew>Okay.
14:16 <IcyMew>I have a problem that is extremely self apparent.
14:16 <IcyMew>In this respect I will let the links do the talking.
14:17 <IcyMew>And respond accordingly.
14:17 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=31209
14:17 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31224
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14:22 <Konar6>all I can say is... welcome to the "competitive" community. Ignore the dick measuring posts and play whatever the hell you want
14:23 <Konar6>or should I say elitist
14:23 <IcyMew>That's the exact reason I'm here is this attitude. I would like to discuss and challenge your reasoning behind taking the "Turn a blind eye to abuse" route.
14:24 <IcyMew>Or rather.
14:24 <IcyMew>The entirety of the staff of Skulltag.
14:24 <IcyMew>In a logical discussion.
14:26 <IcyMew>Quite. I would like to refer to the pastebin between myself and Dynamo, it presents the sentiments I would like to further convey.
14:26 <Konar6>I for myself know that this elitist attitude that's going around Skulltag is a problem
14:26 <IcyMew>http://pastebin.com/uGrG3iDg
14:26 <IcyMew>What do you intend to do about this problem?
14:27 <Konar6>the feasible solution would be if that part of the community moved to that other port that's being made by them, for them
14:27 <IcyMew>This is happening on Skulltag Forums and Skulltag IRC.
14:27 <IcyMew>And is clearly breaking rules.
14:27 <IcyMew>To a great degree.
14:28 <IcyMew>Unlike most people I will not get up on high horse and proclaim that I more competent about competition due to my involvement.
14:28 <IcyMew>I however will appeal to what is right and what is wrong.
14:29 <IcyMew>It is wrong to tell someone to deal with it when the things you are telling them to deal with is abuse. Abuse that is not only unwarranted but undealt with.
14:29 - TheToxicAvenger quit ("I gotta take a piss. When I come back, I'mma talk about the Mighty Duck movies.")
14:31 <IcyMew>Not only that but abuse that occurs within your jurisdiction.
14:31 <Konar6>I can't speak about the forum because I don't moderate it, but as for IRC, where is this supposed abuse happening?
14:31 <Konar6>we can't moderate privately owned channels
14:31 <IcyMew>It happened in #Grandvoid.
14:32 <IcyMew>How was he warranted in threatening me with his channel powers over something like that?
14:32 <Konar6>well, #grandvoid isn't related to staff
14:32 <IcyMew>It is a channel within which you hold powers.
14:32 <IcyMew>Powers greater than Iced.
14:33 <IcyMew>I am curious how you would let someone with that much arrogance and with an attitude that poor have such flags.
14:33 <IcyMew>Allow me to place a perspective upon the situation.
14:34 <IcyMew>I come to him with a genuine question to which I am assaulted personally.
14:34 <IcyMew>I continue to challenge his logic.
14:34 <Konar6>generally when you feel being abused on a channel, you can talk to the ops or just part the channel if they don't care to help
14:34 <IcyMew>And I am silenced with "warnings" and threats of further action?
14:34 <IcyMew>I am talking to you.
14:34 <IcyMew>Right now.
14:34 <Konar6>the drama yesterday on #grandvoid I couldn't deal with simply because I was away
14:35 <IcyMew>You need someone who can, clearly.
14:35 <IcyMew>There's no place for that.
14:35 <IcyMew>I made my apologies to parties involved who deserved it.
14:35 <IcyMew>And tidied things up.
14:35 <IcyMew>As is my custom.
14:35 <IcyMew>However when your staff members in a channel.
14:35 <IcyMew>Make gender based accusations and generally harass me.
14:35 <IcyMew>That's a problem.
14:36 <IcyMew>By being an operator you assume responsibility within that channel. I take it you are also the owner?
14:36 <IcyMew>Since you own the servers.
14:36 <IcyMew>If I recall.
14:36 <IcyMew>Quite.
14:37 <IcyMew>However to touch on the previous topic I was not using jurisdiction to mean yourself personally regarding the forums as I am aware of your usergroup and inherent powers.
14:38 <IcyMew>I was meaning Dynamo specifically and how he has been instructed to do nothing in the face of clear abuse.
14:38 <IcyMew>I am challening that quite directly.
14:38 <IcyMew>Challenging*