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- Can you check twitter for me, see how Tommy's getting on?
- AW
- no
- JS
- Matthew I have to be honest I'm disappointed by Tommy
- MW
- How come Smithy
- JS
- This morning has shown the white people are finally ready to fight back, and Tommy isn't showing them the support I believe he should
- MW
- Yeh I see where you're coming from, Tommy goes about things in the right way though
- AW
- by doing what?
- he does nothing
- MW
- When did you last organise a protest of 5k people
- JS
- Listen, let's get a van, nail bomb a Costa, get this civil war rolling
- AW
- what did the protest achieve?
- smithy what time you want start tomorrow?
- painting that is
- MW
- Spread the message
- AW
- what message?
- MW
- So people wake up and do something
- AW
- do what?
- MW
- Like our mate this morning
- AW
- dumbass mfer
- JS
- JE SUIS TOMMY
- MW
- Adam
- What do you think of the imam of peace?
- AW
- the what/
- JS
- Smh...
- MW
- Ffs
- Why are you happy to see the country blown up?
- AW
- please quote me
- MW
- Every day I see you say something where you sympathise with these terrorists
- JS
- Well your countrymen are dying and all you can do is cry racism when someone speaks up
- AW
- please quote me
- MW
- Exactly I've had enough of it Smithy
- He's got nothing to say for himself
- AW
- you're making up false accusation
- unless you can prove what you're saying i wont be replying to any of your nonsense
- MW
- Says it all for me
- Just bury your head
- AW
- pretty much what i expected, because tommy says nothing of substance and that apparently says it all for you too
- JS
- What do you believe he should be saying
- MW
- Tommy would give you a smack
- JS
- It's a simple issue that requires a simple response, just no one's willing to go through with it
- AW
- not for me to say what he should be saying
- JS
- So what would your stance be to your 300k followers who are in fear just going about their day
- AW
- i honestly hope this is all one elaborate troll
- JS
- So just ignore it and hope it stops
- AW
- well no-one has explained what tommy's actual suggestions are
- other than politicians need to be more outspoken about it
- JS
- He's creating an environment where its safe to talk against certain groups
- AW
- is he?
- JS
- I don't know I haven't looked at a single tweet he's made
- AW
- matt doesn't know either but he's read every tweets tommy's ever tweeted
- Seen by Jude Kuma at 17:38
- MW
- Oh Adam
- AW
- see, you keep bringing this back to me
- MW
- I don't know what we're going to do with you
- AW
- without saying anything of substance
- JS
- So when the Muslims rise up, you won't be fighting with us
- AW
- no, i wont
- MW
- Why is it up to me to say what to do
- AW
- well you keep saying tommy does this tommy does that
- JS
- What's 10 foot long and wrapped around a cunt
- AW
- matt, tell me, what is tommy's solution?
- JS
- It's a turban
- JG
- sounds like someone hasn't read his book
- MW
- Close down the Saudi funded mosques
- JS
- *terrorist training camps
- MW
- Stop hate preachers from preaching in the UK
- JS
- *all Muslims
- MW
- Sort the Islamic schools out, there's undercover videos where they are told all sorts of shit
- AW
- where are these videos ?
- MW
- On the news I saw one
- AW
- ah ok, of course you did
- MW
- I'll find it when I'm not driving
- JS
- Secret Filming Reveals Hatred Been Taught At UK Muslim Schools
- An undercover reporter captures on camera the hate that's been taught to Muslim students at a faith school in Birmingham UK. It's disgusting to say the least.
- youtube.com
- MW
- Think that's the one
- JG
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiaEWHR2K-w
- is that a different one?
- JS
- Chances of us getting the same are very slim, there are many
- MW
- Thanks guys
- JG
- seeing as wootten puts his fingers in his ears and denies these things rather than using google, thought I'd do my bit
- JS
- JE SUIS JOE
- AW
- yeah ok lets close 2000 schools
- JG
- mattt never said that?
- JS
- Well that's a start year
- I mean no that's silly Adam
- AW
- sort them out? you cant just 'sort out' 2000 schools with 100000 pupils
- JS
- Fucking try me
- I'll go columbine in every single one
- MW
- K let it carry on, radicalise kids from the age of 4
- Good idea yes?
- AW
- wont happen
- JS
- The radicalisation?
- AW
- yes
- JS
- So no one's being radicalised?
- Thank goodness I was worried
- AW
- ok then go in to more detail, how do you 'sort out' the schools that are apparently doing this?
- JS
- JG
- only apparently? does the video evidence not count?
- AW
- where does it say kill white men?
- JG
- did you click the second video?
- not specifically white
- and I haven't watched it myself
- but it says kill him a lot
- so im enraged
- AW
- ohhh the video with 700 views
- JS
- Adam so it's only radicalisation if they teach to kill white people
- AW
- with 0 comments
- JS
- Tommy wouldn't stand for that kind of racism
- AW
- that 100% isnt staged
- JG
- Does 'Radical Patriotic Conservative.' sound like someone that would stage something to you
- AW
- na probably not now you mention it
- MW
- So Adam I think we've given enough evidence
- JS
- See you keep saying we have no solutions bit we are at least trying what's your suggestion
- MW
- I'd like to know what you think
- AW
- as i said on saturday, tommy says simple things about complicated subjects that appeal to the simple minded.
- MW
- So it's not a problem and we just carry on?
- AW
- did i say that?
- MW
- You didn't answer my question?
- Stop avoiding it
- AW
- i don't think it's a big enough problem that requires something that could incite a race war, the same as the government
- negatives outweigh the benefits
- JS
- Say that to the families of the victims
- Sorry your kids died but muh racism
- AW
- i don't have to, the government already does that for me
- JS
- I don't see why you value the lives of terrorists more then good normal people
- AW
- quote
- me
- JS
- i don't think it's a big enough problem that requires something that could incite a race war, the same as the government
- MW
- But what happens when the Muslim population gets to 20/25 %, surely it's easier to tackle it now
- AW
- doesn't mention the value of anyones life
- JS
- Read: the people who have died don't matter enough to warrant a response
- How does that not mention the value of anyone's life
- AW
- fuck me its going take a while to get to 20-25% from 4.4
- the worlds going to be a completely different place by the time that happens
- JS
- Just keep changing the subject then
- AW
- 9/11, 3000 people died, action: go to war in afghanistan! result 3500 allied solders dead
- result? absolutely fuck all
- JS
- ... Sorry what are we talking about?
- MW
- What's he on about
- AW
- zzzzzzzzzzz
- you just think everything is so simple
- JS
- No seriously now
- What does that have to do with anything
- MW
- Where the fuck did that come from
- JS
- No one has suggested invading anybody
- Even if those incidents were comparable which they are not
- MW
- Quite the opposite Adam
- AW
- america valued the 3000 people's lives enough to go to war with another country, as a result they lost more lives than were originally lost in 9/11 and nothing changed as a result
- MW
- Nah
- AW
- negatives outweigh the benefits, time and time again
- JS
- I can't think of a response to that
- MW
- They got their oil
- JS
- I honestly don't know what you're talking about
- AW
- ok then, what would you say to the families of the bombing victims?
- WE GON GET DEM MUSLEMS?
- MW
- I'd join them in asking why absolutely fuck all was done after the bomber was reported numerous times
- JS
- Me personally I would offer my sympathy and support anybody with more influence than I who is trying to do something about it
- What would you say? Shit happens?
- AW
- they did do something after being reported
- they investigated him, and found nothing
- JS
- So clearly the current mode of operation isn't working
- AW
- there's nothing yo ucan do to stop 3 people just deciding to hire a van and run in to people with knives
- sure, they may have been known about previously however thankfully in this country, you're innocent until proven guilty
- MW
- How about if he wasn't radicalised in the first place?
- JS
- So it's always been like that in this country? We've always had this volume of terrorist attacks?
- AW
- we don;t live in a perfect word, and never will
- MW
- If his didsbury mosque didn't host fucking hate preachers
- AW
- everyone has access to the internet 😮
- JS
- Adam how many Muslim terrorist attacks were there in England before world war 2
- AW
- dumb people follow slightly less dumb people
- what does world war 2 have to do with anything
- MW
- I think he's just using it as a point in time
- AW
- oh ok, well there weren't any before the romans invaded either
- JS
- It's in the period of prosperity following the second world war we started letting anyone in, look at the rates of terrorist attacks since that time
- AW
- 14.3. After the war, immigration increased, but this did not have a marked effect on the size of the foreign born population between the 1951 and 1961 census, with the number only increasing by about 225,000.
- i think in comparison, we're doing OK
- JS
- How many deaths is OK
- AW
- less than previous years
- JS
- So we're not doing OK this year then
- AW
- no, we're not
- however my original statement said that compared to the 70s, 80s and 90s, we're doing ok
- JS
- So we need to ensure that it improves in the years to come is what you're saying
- We're doing OK if there are less deaths than the previous years
- AW
- yes, it needs to improve.
- MW
- By doing nothing?
- You said you can't do anything about 3 men in a van
- AW
- no, you cant
- JG
- how come the numbers dropped in the past?
- did we do something about them, or did we just let them carry on
- AW
- brb reading up on the troubles
- seems quite detailed and complicated
- Seen by Ben Ingram at 18:29
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles feel free to join me
- The Troubles - Wikipedia
- The Troubles (Irish: Na TrioblóidÃ) was an ethno-nationalist[12][13][14][15] conflict in Northern Ireland during the late 20th century. Also known internationally as the Northern Ireland conflict,[16][17][18][19][20] it is sometimes described as a "guerrilla war" or "low-level war".[21][22][23] The…
- en.wikipedia.org
- JS
- Very different situation
- AW
- is it?
- i think joe was arguing otherwiese
- JG
- I was just wondering why numbers dropped in the past
- was an actual question not an argument
- AW
- not really because you knew that we didn't 'just let them carry on'
- JG
- I didnt realise it was solely IRA
- I know specically that we dont surrender to the ira
- JS
- Well said Joe
- AW
- a lot of them were
- JS
- That was specifically a political war, incomparable to religious extremism
- AW
- so it had nothing to do with diferent types or christianity?
- JG
- theres a lot over all, but the highest year on your last picture was 1980, which if I'm being blind isn't even mentioned there?
- JS
- I thought it was to do with weather or not Ireland became independent
- I don't claim to be an expert on Irish history
- AW
- i don't know what you're saying joe, sorry
- JS
- Not an expert on why we're talking about it either
- Falklands war amiright
- AW
- A key issue was the constitutional status of Northern Ireland. Unionists/loyalists, who are mostly Protestants and consider themselves British, want Northern Ireland to remain within the United Kingdom. Irish nationalists/republicans, who are mostly Catholics
- i'd consider religion to be involved
- JG
- I was still just thinking this was general terrorim not just IRA
- 1980 on your first picture shows like 300 deaths in terrorist attacks
- then you said a lot of them were IRA
- then posted another picture that showed nothing for 1980
- or have I just not read properly because I'm on wow?
- AW
- im just posting photos from the internet, i never specifically mention the ira doing something in 1980
- i said a lot of the terrorist attacks between 70s and 90s were to do with the IRA, which my second photo backs up
- JG
- but when I questioned how they ended, you made a snide remark about me knowing we didn't just do nothing
- when I dont even know what the attacks are
- AW
- learn history then
- MW
- Adam shut the fuck up you lefty cunt
- AW
- and that, is exactly what tommy robinsons 'silent' protests result in
- MW
- Do you wanna go?
- AW
- ive never stated that we should do nothing, simply that you shouldnt follow tommy robinson because anything he does results in nothing good
- MW
- Everyone else is too scared to say anything
- Cus they get labelled racist etc
- JS
- Yeah we're sick of being labelled you lib-tard
- AW
- except they aren't, they do things the proper way (whether you agree with them or not) e.g. theresa may wants more powers to snoop on everyone's internet usage and communications
- through the government, who you elect or don't elect
- because you didn't vote
- JS
- You think that has anything to do with stopping terrorism
- AW
- i don't agree that stopping terrorism is it's primary objective
- but it is one of
- i'm not even for it, it's just an example of how to do things properly
- JS
- Jaden Smith Laughing for 10 Hours
- ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
- youtube.com
- So a man walks up to another man and punches him in the face, your response is to jail the man who received the punch to protect him from the bad man who walks free
- AW
- what?
- JS
- You think the response should be to restrict the freedoms of the victims, and do nothing about the criminals
- AW
- i said that I wasn't for it.
- JS
- So you disagree, so can you understand that there might be better methods that the government aren't doing
- AW
- people voted for the government if you want the government to do something different
- vote for someone else
- JS
- I did
- AW
- matt didn't
- MW
- Oh yeh
- JS
- So?
- MW
- Cus they always do what they say
- AW
- so tell me, if the government aren't doing what you expect them to do
- what are you going to do?
- something similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots ?
- MW
- Hire a van
- JS
- Nothing! I want better minds than mine to be able to discuss potential solutions without fear of being prosecuted for it
- AW
- then write to your MP
- JS
- Again?
- AW
- they most probably are already discussing this, if you don't think that they are. question the person responsible for it.
- JS
- I have trust me
- AW
- well, as you haven't - https://www.writetothem.com/ will help you to do that
- WriteToThem
- WriteToThem is a website which provides an easy way to contact MPs, councillors and other elected representatives.
- writetothem.com
- JS
- You're just reading what you want to aren't you
- MW
- Just so their secretary can choose which template to send you back...? OK
- AW
- when did you write to your MP?
- Seen by
- JG at 18:57
- JS
- Hang on I'll get the email I did signed delivery
- AW
- ok, cheers
- matt, you didn't answer my question. i'll repeat it for you, if the government aren't doing what you expect them to do, what are you going to do?
- well you did answer, but it wasn't an appropriate response im afraid
- that would have got you a F-
- an*
- MW
- Get their attention with a protest like in Manchester
- AW
- didn't work though did it
- what else are you going t odo
- MW
- I don't know what you're getting at? It's clear there is a problem and I'm just highlighting it?
- AW
- you're highlighting it in the same way breast cancer awareness adverts highlight breast cancer
- no-one is denying that teorrism is an issue, its just a lot more complicated to solve than you think it is
- MW
- Sorry you know best
- AW
- apparently so, yeah
- MW
- So who wo
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