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- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:49:22 -0400
- From: The Leader of GamerGate <GamerGateLeader@gmail.com>
- To: Jimmy Wales <REDACTED>
- Subject: Re: #GamerGate Article Issues (I'm bubblesort1 on twitter)
- Sorry it took a while to get back to you. It's been a busy few days for me.
- On 9/28/2014 11:15 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
- > On 9/28/14, 5:23 PM, The Leader of GamerGate wrote:
- >> Thank you for your thoughtful message.
- > You are welcome. I actually have no idea why you are now viciously
- > attacking me on twitter. Please don't do that.
- I never viciously attacked you. We had a gentleman's agreement to keep
- these messages between us, which I have kept, so far. I came to the
- conclusion that Wikipedia is not safe to edit and I told you that I
- would try to find a way to argue this point to my fellow #gamergaters
- without disclosing this message, which makes it harder to make that
- argument. That makes my life more difficult, but it's a small price to
- pay for a rare respectful conversation. Anyway,
- Here is the twitter thread in question, which I will transcribe with
- some notes below.
- https://twitter.com/boom_ix/status/516235668721115136
- Boom Ix posted the following after both of us encouraged him to be more
- optimistic about helping fix some problems on Wikipedia:
- "Patience is fine but people are even now referencing the page as gospel
- painting a huge swath of people as worse than well..."
- I posted the following on Twitter, in response to his message:
- "After looking into it, you were right. Leave the article visibly
- defaced. We are not going to be allowed to fix it."
- Followed by,
- "Let SJWs make it extreme as possible so its an obvious hit piece. Hoist
- them on their own petard."
- That said absolutely nothing about our email exchange. You came in and
- posted:
- "What? That's exactly the opposite of the advice I gave you."
- Followed by,
- "That's the worse possible approach. So if you want to take it, don't
- say that I was right. Say you've rejected advice."
- Then you went and DIRECTLY QUOTED the last message I sent to you, as if
- our gentleman's agreement does not exist at all!
- "I'm quite confused. Your last email to me started "Thank you for your
- thoughtful message" Now accusing me of hate and bile?"
- You are lucky I gave you the benefit of the doubt rather than just
- pastebinning or screen capping all of this immediately. I said I would
- not speak about Wikipedia again until I read your message to give you a
- chance to make your case, and I kept my word on that.
- As I mentioned in my last email to you, I'm not taking your advice. That
- should not surprise you at all. The message I wrote, however, did not
- reference your advice in any way. All I did was tell somebody my honest
- conclusions after looking into the problems with a Wikipedia article.
- By bringing these messages we are currently exchanging up in public and
- accusing me of lying about them you are deliberately trying to use our
- gentleman's agreement to paint me as a liar.
- Maybe being called a liar isn't a big deal to you. To me it is a big
- deal, and I will not allow you to paint me as a liar in order to keep a
- gentleman's agreement made in bad faith on your end.
- I want to be clear: I am not a fool. If you ever bring these messages
- up in public again I will publish them.
- As it stands now, I may or I may not show these messages to others. I
- see no reason why I should keep an agreement made in bad faith. I will
- show them around as it suits me. Whether I keep our gentleman's
- agreement from here on in depends on my mood, because as demonstrated
- above, you broke the agreement first.
- >> When somebody says they have been harassed online or talks about an
- >> incident of harassment the first reaction must never be skepticism or
- >> changing the subject. Ever.
- > I agree with you 100%. And so I don't know what you are angry about or
- > what the next several paragraphs are even referring to.
- I don't think you do agree with me. You tried to impose gender on a
- transgendered person and claimed that it was ok to link their accounts
- across different web sites in order to smear them. You then said I was
- bringing the article up as a 'gotya' (which is crazy because I really
- did like Wikipedia), and you said it wasn't a 'full blown doxxing',
- whatever that means. You dismissed Zoe Quinn's reckless endangerment of
- this transgendered minor. You did all this without citation, so you
- have no evidence. You are just dismissing harassment as a matter of
- course, because these people are gamers and not SJWs. You are deeply
- biased and you do not take threats of violence against gamers seriously
- because you happen to think you are a feminist.
- This is the standard I hold all my friends to: If you don't have
- specific evidence, you accept that the abuse happened and show a little
- humanity. When they don't hold to that I get mad. All of my friends
- know how to handle harassment claims.
- Now, I'm not asking you to take responsibility for the incident, but you
- need to at least treat it with the respect it deserves and not attack
- the victim. Not without direct, specific citation.
- I'm not even going to dignify your attitude towards the issues regarding
- Zoe Quinn with a response. Appearance of impropriety exists. That
- isn't controversial. Facts are facts. I don't care about your boats
- (although I always wanted to sail, I even founded a sailing club at my
- college but couldn't get boats until after I graduated so I never sailed).
- I also don't care if you take offense to the term SJW. That's what they
- were called during Occupy Wall St, which I was deeply involved in, and
- back then it wasn't an insult. It isn't an insult now, I don't care
- what you think.
- Asking what reliable sources call gamergate a hashtag is absurd. It is
- objectively a hashtag. The thing at the end of this sentence is a
- period. The sky is blue and the grass is green. These are not
- controversial statements. The argument against #gamergate being a
- hashtag is patently ridiculous.
- Then... and this really made my blood boil:
- "As a side matter, I think you are mistaken actually. I've seen vibrant
- discussions at reddit in which people DO disagree with Sarkeesian. And
- no one is getting banned for that."
- Fuck you. I was a redditor until they banned all discussion of this
- situation on the major subreddits. I wasn't banned there because I will
- not post to a forum that engages in this kind of censorship since I was
- banned from the SA forums years ago for questioning Sarkeesian's claim
- that games define our reality. I wasn't disrespectful, I wasn't
- trolling. I was banned for disagreeing. This happens in almost all
- gaming forums. Where we decide to migrate to when we leave has more to
- do with where people are and less to do with what can be discussed.
- That is how we ended up on Twitter (I hate twitter... did I already say
- that? I really, really hate twitter, LOL).
- So fuck you, my experiences happened and I don't need to justify them to
- you.
- You want to know about another incident that happened yesterday
- morning? I was posting on a conversation thread for a game dev friend.
- Everybody in the thread but me is a professional game dev. They spent
- all morning hammering me with accusations of harassment and rape. They
- did not claim I was harassing or raping them or I would have left. They
- accused me of it in general, because I told them that I am a gamer.
- When I finally did stop begging them to engage in meaningful
- conversation and stop with the accusations, they went insane. The head
- of the IGDA came in and ordered everybody to stop engaging with me. Not
- a single person came forward and apologized for lying about me. Not a
- single one of them stuck up for me. They all just want to be aggressive
- towards me, accuse me of being a sexual predator and make me take it,
- all because I'm a gamer.
- That is what I'm dealing with. This is naked aggression against
- customers from the games industry. If you think our problems are all in
- our heads you're an idiot. They hate you too.
- I'm not even going to address the rest of the double speak in your
- message because my time could be spent more valuable sending emails to
- advertisers and talking to fellow gamergaters about how to fix this
- problem. I am going to tell everybody to let the gamergate and Zoe
- Quinn and related articles go to hell. I am going to push for them to
- let you and your friends make the articles as extreme as possible,
- because Wikipedia is a dangerous place. The more extreme the article is
- the less people will trust it. You won't follow your own rules or use
- any kind of objectivity regarding our issues. If I feel like it I will
- show these messages around publicly to make that argument, because you
- acted in bad faith.
- ~The Leader of GamerGate
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