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-01:50:26- ¹º¹º Query with (aish[a])/(miromiro@The.Owner-Keep.me.out.of.your.shit.kthxbi) opened on (Wednesday, April 14th 2010, 01:50:26).
-01:50:26- ¹º¹¹ Total queries: (55)/(~1.1 per day)
-01:50:26- ¹¹º¹ Queries today: (1)
-01:50:26- º¹¹º Common channels: (&#shower ~#MiroMiro ~#lounge ~#help ~#BNC ~#admin)
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-01:50:34- (Edith) hey hun, are you feeling ok?
-01:50:59- (aish[a]) no
-01:51:08- (Edith) Can I help somehow?
-01:58:18- ¹¹¹¹ Nick» (aish[a]) is now known as (aish)
-02:04:12- (Edith) hey aish I'm sorry you pushed yourself into this ordeal.
-02:04:13- (aish) [@::Sorry But You'R PM Has Been::@][@::Denied::@][@:: please talk to me in the main channel ::@ jangan pm saya ]
-02:04:33- (Edith) But you have to understand my reasons and I'm hurt that you didnt' even defend me at all.
-02:04:50- (aish) Edith hey aish I'm sorry you pushed yourself into this ordeal.
-02:04:57- (aish) someone complaned to me about you
-02:05:02- (aish) i did not push my way into it
-02:05:17- (Edith) hun, you got a complaint about me froma kif
-02:05:19- (Edith) and you didn't care.
-02:05:23- (Edith) you saw what he said.
-02:05:29- (Edith) and you can ask me for the logs.
-02:05:39- (Edith) other than that it's unfair.
-02:05:51- (aish) oh yes nice blame me
-02:05:57- (aish) i was away watching tv
-02:06:04- (Edith) and you should be doing that more
-02:06:08- (Edith) you overwork yourself
-02:06:11- (Edith) and overstress yourself.
-02:06:37- (Edith) but he comes in and attacks me when I ask him to change his name as it involves drugs.
-02:06:49- (aish) the nick was fine
-02:06:53- (Edith) do you want the logs? so you can see it for yourself?
-02:06:54- (aish) i dont agree with you
-02:07:14- (Edith) or do you not care about my side because I'm not as old of a friwend as he is?
-02:08:00- (aish) he is not a old friend
-02:08:02- (aish) ive seen the logs
-02:08:14- (aish) i really dont have a problim wiht that nick
-02:08:36- (Edith) that's liek that display picture west had.
-02:08:37- (aish) it was just a nick
-02:08:43- (aish) west?
-02:08:55- (Edith) akif
-02:08:58- (Edith) not west.
-02:09:05- (aish) i said the nick was ok
-02:09:13- (aish) why are you fighting me
-02:09:31- (Edith) I'm telling you that you don't care after all those names he called me
-02:09:45- (aish) ok what do you want me to do?
-02:10:05- (Edith) ...
-02:10:20- (Edith) seriously?
-02:10:24- (aish) yeah
-02:10:29- (aish) what do you want me to do?
-02:10:50- (Edith) not shout at me as if I've castrated a friend of yours
-02:10:58- (Edith) and maybe tell him not to call em those names
-02:11:01- (aish) how can i shout?
-02:11:03- (aish) this is irc
-02:11:05- (Edith) maybe defending me wouldhave been nice
-02:11:17- (Edith) not just dismissing.
-02:11:56- (aish) well the name calling came after you and him fight 2 chans and fb and in pm
-02:12:07- (Edith) no.
-02:12:24- (Edith) I don't know what logs he gave you..
-02:12:49- (aish) well there is only one logs
-02:14:06- (Edith) I'lls end you my copy of all of the conversations.
-02:14:11- (aish) no
-02:14:14- (aish) i have logserv
-02:14:22- (Edith) then read the PM he sent me
-02:14:24- (aish) i dont need the logs its over now
-02:15:13- (Edith) well still it hurts that you were so nonchalant about it all.
-02:15:37- (aish) oh god
-02:15:48- (aish) well its just like any other drama here
-02:15:50- (aish) im sick of them
-02:15:51- (Edith) I don't want you to do shit as an ircop.
-02:16:36- (Edith) I'm jsut telling you it hurts when you dump someone when there is another person that you knew for longer doing a complaint.
-02:16:42- (aish) omg
-02:17:09- (aish) dump?
-02:17:26- (Edith) that's what it felt like.
-02:17:38- (aish) edith you were nasty to him dont make out like your princess golden
-02:17:50- (Edith) I wasn't making out like I'm right...
-02:18:29- (Edith) but do you honestly think I deserve being called all those names after I ask him to change his name? Then he changes it to something to be a smartass.
-02:19:01- (aish) in suture let the ircops deal with ban nicks
-02:19:02- (Edith) and I thought it's offensive as it involves drugs. Hence why I told him to do so.
-02:19:02- (aish) ok?
-02:19:08- (aish) then this shit wont happen
-02:19:13- (aish) ok?
-02:19:20- (aish) then i dont have to be ion this situation
-02:19:29- • Edith sighs.
-02:19:33- (Edith) ok aish.
-02:19:57- (Edith) I'll let everyone else deal with things I can't deal with even though they aren't paying attention.
-02:20:35- (aish) well your job is in #help
-02:20:39- (aish) help op
-02:20:48- (aish) and be nice in #help
-02:21:14- (Edith) and I do that well as you've seen proven twice or three times.
-02:22:05- (aish) we done?
-02:22:14- (Edith) We done?
-02:22:28- (Edith) Yes aish, I'm terribly sorry you got dragged into this.
-02:22:50- (aish) well its good its nice that this kinda thing causes me and meep problims
-02:22:51- (aish) i love it
-02:22:53- (aish) live for it
-02:22:55- (Edith) Again, I'm sorrya fter what has happened to you recently. And I'm sorry i don't know all of the rules you have.
-02:24:03- (aish) wel the rule is what i say goes
-02:24:06- (aish) i pay for all this
-02:24:11- (aish) so if i say a nick is ok
-02:24:13- (aish) its ok
-02:24:13- (Edith) yes
-02:24:16- (Edith) you pay for all of it
-02:24:18- (aish) because i pay for it
-02:24:19- (Edith) and you slave over it
-02:24:25- (Edith) and this is your baby
-02:24:25- (aish) nope
-02:24:30- (Edith) we appreciate all youa re doing aish
-02:24:33- (aish) nope but i pay for it
-02:24:33- (Edith) we really do.
-02:24:44- (aish) dont speak to me from other ppl
-02:24:48- (Edith) but we don't have what you have in your mind.
-02:25:00- (aish) i know how you guys bitch about me and back stab me
-02:25:04- (aish) we?
-02:25:07- (aish) who the fuck is we?
-02:25:19- (Edith) serisously aish?
-02:25:23- (aish) who is we?
-02:25:24- (Edith) You think I'm attakcing you now?
-02:25:35- (Edith) is that what you think right now?
-02:25:37- (aish) who is we?
-02:25:48- (Edith) we, I don't know could it be the regular users?
-02:26:03- (Edith) I mean youa ct as if we are all shit.
-02:26:19- (Edith) but ok
-02:26:21- (aish) i act as if all the users are shit?
-02:26:34- (Edith) -02:25:00- (aish) i know how you guys bitch about me and back stab me
-02:26:34- (Edith) -02:25:04- (aish) we?
-02:26:34- (Edith) -02:25:07- (aish) who the fuck is we?
-02:26:45- (Edith) who backstabbed you?
-02:26:46- (aish) well i dont know who you are speaking in behalf of
-02:27:10- (Edith) well i'm sorry you think that way.
-02:27:17- (aish) hey
-02:27:22- (Edith) I assumed that we would mean most of the people.
-02:27:32- (aish) you was saying "we" so i wanted to know on whos behalf you was talking about
-02:27:32- (Edith) The ones that come here because of you.
-02:27:41- (aish) "<Edith> we appreciate all youa re doing aish"
-02:28:00- (Edith) you're picking the whole sentence apart hun.
-02:28:06- (Edith) but ok.
-02:28:10- (aish) no i was just asking who you ment
-02:28:13- (Edith) if you want me to only speak for myself I will.
-02:28:14- (aish) not picking at all
-02:28:21- (aish) yes thats betetr if you do
-02:28:23- (Edith) I don't want to hurt you.
-02:28:30- (Edith) I don't want to backtab you
-02:28:37- (Edith) it just so happens I genuinely CARE about you.
-02:28:48- (Edith) if you don't believe me read my memo
-02:28:59- (Edith) and I appreciate ally ou do.
-02:29:13- (Edith) I appreciate that you're paying out of your own pocket for the servers.
-02:29:25- (Edith) and you're doing it selfleslly
-02:29:32- (Edith) and that you slave over so many configs
-02:29:41- (Edith) when you obviously have better things to do.
-02:29:50- (Edith) and I'm sorry that you get pulled into so much drama
-02:29:58- (Edith) and trouble, but people look up to you.
-02:30:01- (aish) my friend has not gone to a better place
-02:30:01- (Edith) they think fo you as a mother
-02:30:03- (aish) my friend wil be in hell
-02:30:05- (aish) my friend wil be in hell
-02:30:05- (Edith) so they come bitching to you.
-02:30:07- (aish) my friend wil be in hell hes not in a better fucking place
-02:30:17- (Edith) How do you know?
-02:31:14- (Edith) I'm sorry, but I really tried to confort you.
-02:31:23- (Edith) I didn't think you'd take it lie that.
-02:31:33- (aish) because i am religious and i know when someone takes their life they go to hell
-02:31:34- (Edith) *like
-02:31:47- (Edith) I'm not religious.
-02:31:52- (Edith) So I wouldn't know any of it.
-02:31:57- (Edith) I'm sorry.
-02:33:44- (aish) and that user is wests friend
-02:34:08- (Edith) I don't care whose friend it is.
-02:34:13- (Edith) it is a user.
-02:34:23- (aish) i dont care if you care or not, im telling you
-02:34:48- (Edith) Do youw ant me to treat him different than any other user?
-02:35:01- (aish) i was just letting you know
-02:35:23- (Edith) He told me before.
-02:35:51- (Edith) with some glamor as if he owns me because he's west's friend.
-02:36:40- (Edith) But aish. Look if you listen to anything I will ever say just remember
-02:36:47- (Edith) I'm not here to attack you. I care.
-02:37:17- (Edith) Whatever you choose to do to me is fine, gline me, whatever, but know that I do care.
-02:37:22- (aish) huh?
-02:37:25- (aish) gline you?
-02:37:32- (Edith) and I do make an honest effort to keep you out of the crap I can handle.
-02:37:34- (aish) what the fuck are you talking about?
-02:37:53- (Edith) Like what happened to root.
-02:38:01- (Edith) no wait ryto.
-02:38:13- (aish) edith
-02:38:16- (aish) no one is gline you
-02:38:28- (aish) and dont bring up my friendships
-02:38:40- (aish) marc and i go way back and i resent you even talking about it
-02:39:41- (Edith) It just feels like almost anything I do, or try to do right, I upset you.
-02:39:57- (Edith) hell, I'm scared of you at times.
-02:40:09- (aish) of what?
-02:40:12- (aish) i will hack you?
-02:40:23- (aish) or i will ban you ?
-02:40:23- (Edith) you wouldn't be able to.
-02:40:27- (aish) what?
-02:40:36- (Edith) I'ms cared you'll take something I say the wrong way and just disown me
-02:40:37- (aish) i would tell you to stop being so bossy in #admin
-02:40:43- (aish) like the otehr day you was with west
-02:40:44- (Edith) via bans and such
-02:41:02- (aish) <Sadness> this is #admin not talk whatever the hell you want.
-02:41:02- (aish) <West> this is #admin not #concentrationcamp
-02:41:27- (Edith) it jsut seemed like we were going off topic and I know ou hate having chatter in admin.
-02:42:13- (aish) well your just the help op
-02:42:17- (aish) you sont tell the other ircops to stop talking
-02:42:19- (aish) dont
-02:42:35- (aish) and why would you have to be scared of me?
-02:42:50- (Edith) here is why.
-02:42:58- (Edith) Remember when we had chatter in admin?
-02:43:04- (Edith) I was part of the random chatting stuff
-02:43:21- (Edith) and you told me that this is admin, and it's for network related stuff.
-02:43:26- (Edith) not network adminsitration.
-02:43:31- (aish) yes but thats not for you to enforce
-02:43:44- (Edith) that's what I'm talking about.
-02:44:00- (Edith) I don't know what I can and can not do.
-02:44:09- (Edith) let the ops have useless chatter inadmin
-02:44:14- (Edith) which i know you dislike
-02:44:15- (aish) well you cant have nicks like suicide
-02:44:19- (Edith) and tell them not to talk
-02:44:33- (Edith) and you still jump on me becuase I told them to do something
-02:44:38- (Edith) you told me not to do.
-02:44:40- (aish) see im afraid of you
-02:44:52- (aish) because you can be so sensitive and mean
-02:44:55- (Edith) of what that I'll one day prove myself worthy of something?
-02:44:59- (aish) and you can be so nasty to people
-02:45:10- (Edith) nasty to people yes
-02:45:18- (Edith) nasty to friends, another story.
-02:45:34- (aish) and you say stuff to others that you would be furious if they said to you
-02:45:51- (aish) and i never comment because i am afriad to hurt your feelings
-02:45:51- (Edith) like what?
-02:46:00- (Edith) ROFLMAO!
-02:46:04- (Edith) Ok you hurt my feelings
-02:46:08- (Edith) what am I going to do?
-02:46:15- (Edith) cry and /part?
-02:46:29- (Edith) then come back a day or a few hours later?
-02:46:50- (Edith) I'm scared to hurt you because you can actually DO something.
-02:46:50- (aish) well you say you cut your self
-02:46:58- (Edith) Yes, old news.
-02:47:18- (aish) what is it you think i can actually do?
-02:47:26- (Edith) oh let's see here
-02:47:49- (Edith) ban, remove what limited power I have, disown em as a friend
-02:47:56- (Edith) and of course have everyone hate me.
-02:48:05- (aish) no one would hate you
-02:48:05- (Edith) you're a leader.
-02:48:09- (aish) hah
-02:48:14- (Edith) people follow
-02:48:16- (aish) naw
-02:48:22- (Edith) and you prove your power via iron fist.
-02:48:24- (aish) thats what you think
-02:48:28- (aish) thats not true at all
-02:48:54- (Edith) hun it's true.
-02:48:55- (Edith) -02:24:03- (aish) wel the rule is what i say goes
-02:48:55- (Edith) -02:24:06- (aish) i pay for all this
-02:48:57- (aish) if that was true why was meep defending you to me?
-02:49:10- (aish) its one thing to own this
-02:49:11- (Edith) why would he defend me?
-02:49:12- (aish) i am no leder
-02:49:16- (Edith) I'm capable of defending myself.
-02:49:25- (Edith) hun what yous ay goes.
-02:49:28- (Edith) hence you're a leader
-02:49:36- (aish) well only to admins
-02:49:36- (Edith) what I say may or may not go.
-02:49:39- (Edith) no
-02:49:41- (Edith) to everyone.
-02:49:44- (aish) noe one ever lissens to me in #lounge
-02:49:55- (Edith) it's lounge lols.
-02:50:04- (Edith) nobody listens to anybody there.
-02:50:07- (aish) i hate that channel
-02:50:24- (aish) i just hang mostly in my own channel and talk with my friends
-02:50:25- (Edith) that's why I stopped showing up regularly.
-02:50:44- (Edith) not to mention it's being taken over by trolls.
-02:50:59- (aish) what trolls?
-02:51:05- (aish) crewin?
-02:51:07- (Edith) I did runa scenerio simulation about lounge.
-02:51:15- (aish) he was shuned
-02:51:23- (Edith) crewin, that new guy that isnists I'ma fat whore bitch
-02:51:39- (Edith) a few others I could list
-02:51:44- (Edith) justin being another one.
-02:54:18- (aish) well why do you join in there if ppl bother you
-02:54:36- (Edith) Because I feel like it's a duty.
-02:54:42- (aish) naw
-02:54:47- (aish) not at all
-02:54:49- (Edith) you told me that I'ma helpop.
-02:54:59- (Edith) and you told me to ban people that cause drama
-02:55:01- (aish) your not needed in #lounge as helpop
-02:55:03- (Edith) so I'll do that.
-02:55:13- (Edith) I know..
-02:55:17- (Edith) but I want to be there
-02:55:27- (Edith) so i can stop things from getting hard on you.
-02:55:35- (aish) i dont want that
-02:55:39- (aish) i look after my self
-02:55:42- (Edith) I know.
-02:55:46- (aish) #lounge is my personal channel
-02:55:50- (Edith) but you're so busy with more important things.
-02:55:52- (aish) and so is #aish
-02:56:06- (Edith) and I jsut don't think it's right for you tog et dragged int past drama.
-02:56:07- (aish) i dont need your help or you to take up the slack
-02:56:37- (Edith) I know you don't really need me.
-02:56:45- (aish) #lounge and #aish are my places
-02:56:47- (Edith) hell, you're a concrete reinforced pillar.
-02:56:54- (aish) i dont want anyone kick or ban from there
-02:57:00- (Edith) but every now and then I want to help you.
-02:57:13- (aish) well its not help if its not wanted
-02:57:18- (aish) you help in #help
-02:58:16- (Edith) but you do so much and you still ahve to deal with petty crap, you yourself don't want to deal with.
-02:59:23- (aish) you know what i need more then i know what i need?
-02:59:33- (aish) because i kinda feel like your crossing a line here
-02:59:35- (aish) and well
-02:59:37- (aish) you know
-03:00:20- (Edith) yes I'm crossing a line if you want to make it sound like that.
-03:00:31- (Edith) but my reasons for doing so is to alliveate pressure on you.
-03:00:41- (Edith) if you haven't noticed, I care about your well being...
-03:01:03- (aish) this whole conversation is been going on and on now for lets see [16:03] to 16:59
-03:01:34- (aish) i dont need you to care about my well being
-03:01:42- (aish) dont you understand that?
-03:02:44- (Edith) So you say that I should not care about you at all....?
-03:03:01- (aish) appropriately sure
-03:03:27- (Edith) seriosuly?
-03:03:36- (aish) you can care appropriately sure
-03:03:37- (Edith) So you're saying you don't want me as your friend?
-03:03:43- (Edith) Oh.
-03:03:54- (Edith) :s
-03:05:04- (Edith) Ok so let em get it straight.
-03:05:22- -West- i would have just banned him
-03:05:51- (Edith) you want me to barely care about you, you want me to not say anything to an op, even though you specifically told me not to do whatever it is,
-03:06:18- (aish) omg
-03:06:20- (aish) you know
-03:06:24- (aish) i am so confused now
-03:06:26- (Edith) you want me to not do anything to help you on the network except in help?
-03:06:29- (Edith) So am I.
-03:06:32- (aish) "barely care"?
-03:06:43- (Edith) I really care about you.
-03:06:45- (aish) your a help op
-03:06:49- (aish) you help in #help
-03:06:58- (aish) thats why i gave you that possion
-03:06:59- (Edith) and you just say to not care as much.
-03:07:02- (aish) i thought you would like it
-03:07:16- (aish) but i see like lexi its been a huge mistake
-03:07:23- (Edith) I do, but if I know some of the rules you told me I thought I was also supposed to enforce them.
-03:07:46- (aish) well
-03:08:03- (Edith) you never told me that I wasn't supposed to do anything outside of help.
-03:08:05- (aish) you know west zula and meep and benf are there to enforce the big rules
-03:08:13- (aish) zuka
-03:08:22- (Edith) you said that I'm supposed to be helpful, and by that I assumed rule-remindng is included.
-03:08:45- (aish) well i made bad choices
-03:09:00- (aish) i really thought we would be a happy team and work well together
-03:09:04- (aish) but i was wrong
-03:09:06- (Edith) I'm sorry I'ma giant fuckup to you.
-03:09:07- (aish) andf i have faild
-03:09:11- (aish) no
-03:09:14- (aish) im the fuck up
-03:09:23- (aish) i am a stupid dreamer
-03:09:24- (Edith) I was trying to help. but with no guidelines I don't know how and how much.
-03:09:32- (Edith) You built the network as it is
-03:09:34- (aish) thinking its all going to be cool and smoth sailing
-03:09:36- (Edith) how are you the fuckup?
-03:09:59- (Edith) Hun, you're running a network of minds unlinked to each other with each having a different idea.
-03:10:01- (aish) well you know meep can guid you
-03:10:13- (Edith) there is no way you can expect smoothness over the net.
-03:10:15- (aish) but no that stuff all left to me
-03:10:20- (aish) unless i fuck up
-03:10:25- (aish) then you all are down on me
-03:10:32- (aish) and once again aish is the cunt
-03:10:36- (aish) like lexi hates me
-03:10:49- (aish) i wii dont know even why she stays in lounge
-03:11:18- (Edith) ....
-03:11:23- (Edith) I'm down on you?
-03:11:29- (aish) well
-03:11:31- (Edith) I'm down on you because I'm confused.
-03:11:51- (Edith) I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do or not do, then I get shouted at for doing something I thought I was meant to do.
-03:12:07- (aish) you help in #help
-03:12:09- (Edith) so yes, if down on you means getting clarity, then I am.
-03:12:13- (aish) help users register their nicks
-03:12:20- (aish) help userw with a vhots
-03:12:24- (Edith) most people don't know aboout help.
-03:12:27- (aish) unless you dont want to do that any more
-03:12:41- (Edith) I've been doing a damn good job.
-03:12:54- (aish) than you must have some direction of what to do
-03:13:00- (aish) because your doing a great job
-03:13:09- (aish) you did a fantastic job of the art work
-03:13:31- (Edith) which is prett useless.
-03:13:35- (aish) so you see there is places you fully understand what your doing
-03:13:38- (Edith) Just a pretty few pictures.
-03:13:47- (aish) the face of the site
-03:14:18- (Edith) A bunch of pretty pictures...
-03:14:26- (aish) ok then
-03:14:37- (Edith) but it's here where I want to help.
-03:14:48- (Edith) and I want to be useful, since I know the ruoles I've been told
-03:14:59- (Edith) therefore I try and enforce them to give other people relax time.
-03:15:06- (Edith) but that oversteps my boundry somehow.
-03:15:14- (Edith) which i didn't know.
-03:15:20- (aish) well now you can be sure
-03:15:29- (aish) if you think a nick is bad
-03:15:44- (aish) talk to meep or zuka or benf or adam or me
-03:15:46- (Edith) then just leave it?
-03:15:56- (Edith) well adam is red?
-03:16:00- (aish) yes
-03:16:10- (aish) but to me that nick was fine
-03:16:10- (Edith) because if I remember right he also asked him to change the nick.
-03:16:17- (aish) after you did
-03:16:29- (aish) he did to back you up
-03:16:38- (aish) how ever i did not see any problim with that nick
-03:17:10- (Edith) you have no problem with smoke a lot of pot as a name?
-03:17:13- (aish) its not lie its harycunt
-03:17:42- (aish) the nick is smokealotapotamus>
-03:17:45- (aish) the nick is smokealotapotamus
-03:18:02- (Edith) essentially smoke a lot of pot -dionsaurending
-03:18:04- (aish) and we have users here that take drugs
-03:18:11- (Edith) that's what I was thinkgin about.
-03:18:13- (aish) gumby west root
-03:18:21- (aish) so i dont know whats the problim
-03:18:27- (aish) and i say the nick is fine
-03:18:36- (aish) ishootherron would be bad
-03:18:37- (Edith) well you deleted akif's picture on the site
-03:18:42- (aish) yes
-03:18:49- (Edith) after I showed it to you and told you that I don't think we condone the use of drugs.
-03:18:53- (Edith) that's the reasoning.
-03:19:00- (aish) i never said that
-03:19:07- (Edith) it wasn't to lash out at him.
-03:19:11- (aish) i did want to be seen to advertising cigeretts
-03:19:39- (Edith) you thought it was advertisement, I thought it was sayign that drugs are ok.
-03:19:45- (Edith) hence why I jumped on his nick
-03:19:59- (Edith) itt just seemed like it's the same thing to me.
-03:20:12- (Edith) that's probably the misunderstanding.
-03:20:13- (aish) well to me the nick was fine
-03:20:53- (Edith) Ok.
-03:21:03- (aish) i have said all along
-03:21:05- (Edith) so then I should not enforce any rules?
-03:21:22- (Edith) let anyone do what they want 24/7
-03:22:00- (aish) edith your help is really needed in #help
-03:22:57- (Edith) Ugh, this won't be easy for me at all.
-03:23:01- (Edith) Usually I learn the rules
-03:23:11- (Edith) and spit them out or enforce them as much as I can.
-03:23:21- (Edith) rules are there for a reason after all.
-03:23:28- (aish) well thats the job of the ircops
-03:24:00- (Edith) it may be their job but I've been doing that everywhere I went.
-03:24:16- (Edith) if there is a spam forum post, or trolling, or racism
-03:24:20- (Edith) if it is against the rules.
-03:24:29- (Edith) i will remind them of the rules.
-03:24:34- (Edith) that's how I've always operated.
-03:24:50- (Edith) but it's arder here because I don't know all the rules.
-03:24:56- (Edith) I know bits and peaces.
-03:25:13- (Edith) and even then I upset people if I enforce what I know.
-03:25:15- (aish) thats because the rules are not for you to enforce
-03:25:22- (Edith) I can't help it.
-03:25:23- (aish) so you dont need to know them
-03:25:27- (Edith) it's like breathing air.
-03:25:37- (Edith) you can't stop breating air
-03:25:49- (aish) well your not ircop
-03:25:50- (Edith) same way I can't stand not knowing what the rules are.
-03:26:00- (Edith) it's like breathing air.
-03:26:03- (Edith) like I said.
-03:26:15- (Edith) I know I'm not an ircop but I still can't help but say soemthing.
-03:26:48- (aish) then it will cause conflict when your not suported in the enforcement
-03:27:18- (Edith) if I'm not supported
-03:27:21- (Edith) then it's not a rule.
-03:27:38- (aish) well if its not your job to enforce a rule
-03:27:40- (aish) and you do it
-03:27:54- (aish) then you are doing the wrong thing
-03:28:01- (Edith) leading by example.
-03:28:03- (aish) thats what i am saying
-03:28:09- (Edith) wait.
-03:28:14- (Edith) so if I support the rules
-03:28:16- (Edith) I am wrong
-03:28:32- (aish) if you enforce them with out the authority
-03:28:40- (Edith) the same rules people abide or sould abide by, as long as it's me it's wrong?
-03:28:50- (Edith) I CAN'T enforce
-03:28:54- (Edith) I CAN remind.
-03:28:58- (aish) no thats not it
-03:29:19- (aish) you said you dont know all the rules
-03:29:26- (Edith) you're telling me it's wrong if I say that people should not do chit chat in admin
-03:29:27- (aish) i said thats because you dont need to know them
-03:29:40- (Edith) and you said I have no authority for REMINDING or saying that in thec hanne.
-03:29:52- (Edith) after you crucified me for doing so.
-03:30:04- (aish) crucified?
-03:30:07- (Edith) yes.
-03:30:15- (aish) thats a little over the top
-03:30:17- (Edith) you don't remember?
-03:30:31- (aish) edith
-03:30:44- (Edith) it was as if I stomped on your toe with cleets.
-03:31:12- (Edith) just because I told west not to use admin for a random conversation.
-03:31:42- (aish) well you dont tell west what to do in admin
-03:31:46- (aish) and you dont speak for me
-03:31:49- (aish) its that easy
-03:31:55- (Edith) I don't speak for you
-03:32:01- (Edith) I spoke for the rule you set.
-03:32:15- (aish) well you see you dont need to enforce the rules in #admin
-03:32:21- (aish) ok?
-03:32:24- (aish) so relax
-03:32:33- (Edith) hun how can I?
-03:32:40- (aish) like when i was trying to make an anouncement the toher day
-03:32:47- (aish) omg
-03:32:58- (aish) you know what
-03:33:02- (Edith) I never said anything about that.
-03:33:12- (aish) i am sick of this conversation i no matter what i say its wrong
-03:33:21- (aish) this is 1 hr and 309 mins
-03:33:23- (Edith) I'm confused as hell.
-03:33:26- (aish) 30*
-03:33:36- (Edith) I'm TRYING to understand what the hell youw ant me to do.
-03:33:42- (Edith) and it's not easy.
-03:33:44- (aish) help in help
-03:33:56- (Edith) that and not do anythign about rules
-03:34:11- (aish) what rules are you tlaking about?
-03:34:13- (Edith) ie let everyone spam, troll, bullshit, and run to an ircop 24/7
-03:34:21- (aish) you say the ruyl;e and i will tell you if you can enforce them or not
-03:34:39- (Edith) no useless chat in admin, admin is for network stuff
-03:34:44- (Edith) don't abuse vhosts
-03:34:48- (aish) how can you stop people going to ircops?
-03:34:48- (Edith) don't spam
-03:34:51- (Edith) don't pick on toehrs
-03:34:56- (Edith) don't use offensive nick names
-03:35:12- (aish) spam = join /server blah.net balh
-03:35:43- (Edith) same thing as a flood.
-03:35:52- (Edith) which is also not allowed
-03:35:53- (aish) well botserv fixes that
-03:35:58- (Edith) not in all channels.
-03:35:59- (aish) and bad words
-03:36:05- (aish) i have block most bad nicks
-03:36:05- (Edith) on miromiro only.
-03:36:08- (aish) in the forbid list
-03:36:23- (aish) where other do it matter?
-03:36:41- (Edith) oh I don't know could it be in channels people actually talk in?
-03:37:08- (aish) well then its up to the owner of their channel to deal with that
-03:37:12- (Edith) the only channels I seem to "step over the line" are in admin and lounge.
-03:37:14- (Edith) why?
-03:37:22- (Edith) because I have moments where I'm right.
-03:37:38- (Edith) and if the owner is gone the channel is allowed to go to hell.
-03:37:50- (aish) #lounge is already hell
-03:37:56- (Edith) not really.
-03:38:04- (Edith) if some are removed it's a normal channel.
-03:38:05- (aish) well thats a matter of opnion
-03:38:14- (Edith) it's a matter of observation.
-03:38:23- (Edith) but yeah i suppose youc an count that as a form of opinion.
-03:38:29- (aish) well thats why i talk mostly in #aish
-03:38:44- (Edith) in #aish? the channel i ASKED permission to join
-03:38:51- (Edith) and was not given an answer to?
-03:39:06- (aish) i guess that was the answer
-03:39:35- (Edith) yeah a rather rude and blunt one.
-03:39:42- (aish) how is it rude?
-03:39:59- (Edith) "hey aish can I join #aish?"
-03:40:04- (Edith) "or should I jsut fuck off"
-03:40:15- (Edith) Aish has changed nick to aish[a]
-03:40:19- (Edith) or something similar.
-03:40:21- (aish) see your idea of no is fuck off?
-03:40:41- (Edith) the fuck off was later when i had no answer
-03:40:59- (Edith) and I was hoping for an answer after that line or default to the answer of "fuck off"
-03:41:00- (aish) well i didnt want to say anything
-03:41:16- (aish) because i knew you would be pissed
-03:41:37- (Edith) well it kindof hurts.
-03:41:43- (Edith) here I am trying to do my best.
-03:41:43- (aish) why?
-03:41:54- (Edith) and thinking I'm a good friend of yours
-03:41:59- (aish) whats my channel got to do with it?
-03:42:10- (Edith) and I'm usually basically shat on.
-03:42:15- (aish) how?
-03:42:16- (Edith) it's an example.
-03:42:34- (Edith) if you reread this entire conversation you'll notice something.
-03:42:34- (aish) because youre not in my pvt chan?
-03:43:03- ¹º¹º Part» (aish:#help) (miromiro@The.Owner-Keep.me.out.of.your.shit.kthxbi) (parting)
-03:43:20- (Edith) it just makes me sad.
-03:43:35- (Edith) because I honestly think,a nd thoguht that I was a good friend to you
-03:43:41- (aish) its a god damn channel
-03:43:42- (Edith) and that I was doing well in helping you.
-03:43:53- (aish) whats my channel got to do with anything?
-03:43:54- (Edith) I'm nto TALKING about the channel any more.
-03:44:01- (aish) there is like 10 ppl in there
-03:44:08- (Edith) if you reread this entire conversation you'll notice something.
-03:44:09- (aish) omg
-03:44:16- (aish) what?
-03:44:17- (Edith) that's what I'm talking about.
-03:44:21- (aish) i will not be re reading it
-03:44:28- (aish) because i will be twice as confused
-03:44:39- (aish) and its over 1 and 1/2 hours long
-03:44:40- (Edith) if you walk away for an hour
-03:44:43- (Edith) clear your head
-03:44:47- (aish) no
-03:44:48- (Edith) and read it again you'll see....
-03:44:51- (aish) i am not reading it again
-03:44:58- (Edith) then it's too much to ask for.
-03:45:19- (Edith) ok I'll come out and just ask you.
-03:45:27- (Edith) and you have to give me an answer.
-03:45:42- (Edith) do you still consider me as a friend of yours?
-03:45:45- (aish) what are we like 12?
-03:45:53- (Edith) and do you still want me to be here
-03:45:55- (Edith) Answer it.
-03:46:31- (aish) i consider you to be someone who i am developing a friendship with
-03:46:45- (Edith) developing...?
-03:46:46- (aish) yes i would like you to be here but we need to change a few things
-03:46:57- (aish) edith i know you 2 months
-03:47:02- (aish) 3 months tops
-03:47:04- (Edith) I seriously thought we were FRIENDS....
-03:47:11- (aish) we are
-03:47:19- (aish) but we are in the early days of friendship
-03:47:44- (Edith) ok that explains one thing.
-03:47:48- (aish) its not the same as like adam who i know 8 years
-03:47:58- (Edith) and what do we need to change?
-03:48:03- (Edith) other than clarifying rules.
-03:48:12- (aish) well i have told you the rules
-03:48:31- (Edith) the rules being "I pay for this, what I say goes"?
-03:48:36- (aish) nope
-03:48:48- (aish) but thanks for being so patronising
-03:48:52- (Edith) I'm not.
-03:49:19- (Edith) I want to figure out what I can dow ithout fucking up and getting you upset or pissed or annoyed or any other negative derrevation.
-03:49:22- (aish) the changes
-03:49:23- (aish) well
-03:49:52- (aish) well stop being so hostile to users you dont like
-03:50:32- (aish) just put them on ignore
-03:50:36- (Edith) ok so stop being myself.
-03:50:40- (aish) carrying on fighting is no help at all
-03:51:28- (aish) see i never said stop being your self
-03:51:35- (Edith) I can't help it aish.
-03:51:39- (aish) i cant tlak to you if you stone wall me like this young lady
-03:51:41- (Edith) that's how I am.
-03:52:01- (aish) then i dont want you to be op in #lounge of #miromiro
-03:52:02- (Edith) I keep epopel at bay until i know how they are, then I soften up to them.
-03:52:22- (aish) you can be what you like
-03:52:27- (aish) be your self
-03:52:31- (Edith) I can't..
-03:52:36- (Edith) because then you'lls ay I'm harsh.
-03:52:42- (aish) but i dont want you having power over users
-03:52:45- (aish) no its fine
-03:52:50- (aish) you can be harsh
-03:53:02- (aish) just i dont want you to have power over users
-03:53:31- (Edith) ok,
-03:53:36- (Edith) so let me guess your next move
-03:53:49- (aish) there is no next move
-03:53:57- (Edith) you will remove all my accesses from all channels that you own
-03:54:06- (aish) nope
-03:54:16- (aish) <aish> then i dont want you to be op in #lounge of #miromiro
-03:54:34- (Edith) you've already demoted me from admin in lounge.
-03:54:51- (aish) like most others
-03:55:07- (aish) /cs access #lounge list
-03:55:08- (Edith) like most others that are not close to you.
-03:55:12- (aish) look for your self
-03:56:03- (aish) there is only 2 at 10
-03:56:19- (Edith) and a lot of people with +qo
-03:56:23- (aish) the rest are upper admins
-03:56:31- (Edith) yes, naturally.
-03:56:34- (aish) there is no one with +q0
-03:56:39- (aish) only me
-03:56:46- (aish) i am the only +q there
-03:56:48- (Edith) err +ao
-03:57:01- (aish) there is only 2 who are not ircops
-03:57:06- (aish) azi and garret
-03:57:22- (Edith) who are your best friends that you knew for over 10 years.
-03:57:27- (Edith) if I remember right.
-03:57:49- (aish) well your wrong there
-03:58:06- (aish) so anyways
-03:58:06- (Edith) I know you knew azi for a long time
-03:58:19- (aish) yes
-03:58:19- (Edith) that's what you told me in a past argument.
-03:58:24- (aish) no
-03:58:33- (aish) thats what i told you when you said how much you sidliked her
-03:58:47- (aish) edith is this an argument to you?
-03:58:57- (Edith) no it's clarification.
-03:59:04- (Edith) in a raw form
-03:59:24- (aish) well about access it was not just you that went down iu the lost
-03:59:27- (aish) list
-04:00:15- (aish) there is 1 500 on that list
-04:00:19- (aish) and the rest 9999
-04:00:27- (Edith) and I've checked before
-04:00:39- (Edith) I was also at 500 as wel as lexi after you rebuilt the list.
-04:00:51- (Edith) in any case
-04:00:54- (aish) and now its changed
-04:01:01- (Edith) yeah not sure why
-04:01:12- (aish) because i thought it best to have it this way
-04:01:22- (Edith) I hope it's not one of those relationship status changes though.
-04:01:36- (aish) its a channel access list
-04:01:38- (aish) thats all
-04:01:45- (aish) i am making it more even
-04:01:45- (Edith) because I really don't like it when people bypass logic and base decigions on emotions.
-04:02:03- (aish) hoping that will makes things less likely to be about kicking and baning other ops
-04:02:33- (Edith) gah this is still a bit confusing.
-04:02:42- (aish) what is?
-04:02:45- (Edith) but.. I'm glad you still consider me worthy as a freind.
-04:02:48- (aish) get it all out now
-04:03:06- (Edith) be it small-ish kindking friendship.
-04:03:23- (Edith) but still I'm glad you feel like you can somewhat rely on me.
-04:03:28- (aish) i dont know what that means
-04:03:50- (Edith) befroe I thought we had a good friendhsip
-04:03:53- (aish) i offered you help op because i thought you would like to be a part of the net and thats what i wanted
-04:04:02- (aish) i think we do if we can tlak like this
-04:04:02- (Edith) and lately I've been feeling liek the firendship is just lessening
-04:04:11- (aish) where as unlike me and lexi i just tlel her to fuck off
-04:04:15- (Edith) and that your patience for what I try to do, regardless of my reasons, is wearing thin.
-04:04:36- (Edith) I don't understand why.
-04:04:42- (aish) well hoping for change is not as good as making change
-04:04:45- (Edith) but whatever, i don't want to get into that
-04:05:27- (Edith) this is a friendship conversation?
-04:05:46- (Edith) feels more like a court case or a business conversation.
-04:05:59- (aish) edith beleive me if i didint like our frinedship i would not be here talking
-04:06:02- (Edith) guess me being in such a shitty depressed modd it doesn't help.
-04:06:18- (aish) because i wouldent care enough to talk this long
-04:06:29- (Edith) so... you.. do care about me
-04:06:35- (aish) yes of corse
-04:06:39- • Edith hugs
-04:06:42- • aish hugs
-04:06:56- (aish) thats why we can tlak like this
-04:07:00- (aish) talk
-04:07:11- (aish) but it dont stop me getting mad'
-04:07:27- (Edith) yeah
-04:07:34- (Edith) especially not this conversation.
-04:07:36- (aish) becasue i always say what i think
-04:07:51- (Edith) I censor myself a hell of a lot.
-04:07:55- (aish) and i did get very upset when i come back to that log
-04:07:57- (Edith) believe it or nor lols.
-04:08:02- (aish) yeah
-04:08:04- (aish) i am sure
-04:08:36- • Edith sighs.
-04:08:45- (aish) i just got to gte away
-04:08:47- (Edith) well I'm overdue on crying myself to sleep tonight.
-04:08:53- (aish) i cant wait to get to switzerland
-04:09:12- (Edith) you really do need to get on vacation.
-04:09:18- (Edith) you do too much work as it is.
-04:09:24- (aish) yeah and 3 months there will do it
-04:09:27- (Edith) and with teh flu, and drama blah.
-04:09:35- (Edith) three monts?!!?!
-04:09:35- (aish) and my business here
-04:09:41- (Edith) No wonder.
-04:09:42- (aish) yes
-04:09:44- (aish) 90 days
-04:09:53- (aish) i have a business here at my house
-04:10:05- (aish) and i usualy start work every day at 4 am
-04:10:11- (aish) woprk till 9 am most days
-04:10:15- (Edith) and I bet that strains on your nerves.
-04:10:23- (Edith) say sleep after that.
-04:10:23- (aish) i breed fish
-04:10:32- (Edith) d[o_O]b
-04:10:45- (Edith) well next time I eat sushy I'll be thinking of you! :D
-04:10:52- (aish) im agriculturist
-04:10:57- (aish) brtb
-04:11:03- (Edith) hun I'mg onna go
-04:11:11- (Edith) Thanks for talkin and all.
-04:12:11- (Edith) Sorry if I got out of hand, but it's... kindof how I am. Moreso now since i'm in a really bad place in my life. Oh well. I'm glad we are still friends.
-04:12:13- (Edith) night
-04:20:21- (aish) nite
-04:27:13- º¹¹º Nick» (aish) is now known as (aish[a])
-04:56:56- (aish[a]) sorry edith but i need you to not be op in #miromiro .. sorry
-04:57:24- (aish[a]) i understand the giy with the drug nick
-04:57:37- (aish[a]) but telling Jennie_Blaze she had to be in other chans was a bit much
-04:57:40- (aish[a]) we will tlak more
-04:57:43- (aish[a]) *hugs*
-04:57:54- (aish[a]) it will be best
Session Close: Wed Apr 14 05:26:35 2010