[2/15/2014 4:05:57 AM] Exchord: I realized that an ISG trick I've known for ages actually allows us to skip kongs
[2/15/2014 4:06:24 AM | Edited 4:09:42 AM] Exchord: get ISG, view your file, enter and exit rambi area, wait for a fadeout on dk's barrel screen
[2/15/2014 4:06:44 AM] Exchord: this gives you all cranky moves, all instruments, all weapons, and completely disableds the timer in helm
[2/15/2014 4:07:11 AM] Exchord: downsides are it takes 5 minutes because you have to wait through intro story
[2/15/2014 4:07:26 AM] Exchord: and there is no way to save the game after the trick
[2/15/2014 4:07:33 AM] Exchord: also the pause menu is disabled
[2/15/2014 4:07:44 AM] Exchord: so you can't exit levels or reset in aztec and helm
[2/15/2014 4:08:14 AM] Exchord: but it could acutally be useful in low%
[2/15/2014 4:08:48 AM] Exchord: I think it's faster than doing a second trip to aztec to free tiny or beat the first three k. rool phases twice
[2/15/2014 4:11:17 AM] Exchord: so after key 8 reset you would just do the trick to get all moves, turn in the keys, and beat k. rool
[2/15/2014 4:11:53 AM] Exchord: which skips fairy island, rainbow coins, buying moves, and freeing tiny
[2/15/2014 4:17:09 AM | Edited 4:20:45 AM] Exchord: theoretically you could even skip all kongs except dk and all training barrels except barrel barrel
[2/15/2014 4:18:52 AM | Edited 4:22:48 AM] Exchord: but that would be totally insane, you'd have to do the tas only helm early, invincibility ledge clip in helm lobby using the kasplat, moonkick clip in helm, AND raise your oob height on the stairs leading to the k. rool door
[2/15/2014 4:19:07 AM] Exchord: which only has a few pixels behind the wall
[2/15/2014 4:21:25 AM] Exchord: and beating mad jack as dk isn't a big deal I guess but it's still annoying
[2/15/2014 4:43:18 AM] RingRush: low% doesn't do a second trip to aztec
[2/15/2014 4:43:21 AM] RingRush: since we skip diddy now
[2/15/2014 4:43:30 AM] RingRush: it just gets tiny from k rool
[2/15/2014 4:44:39 AM] RingRush: but um
[2/15/2014 4:44:48 AM] RingRush: that trick sounds like it might very well be faster for any%.................
[2/15/2014 4:45:52 AM] RingRush: like 7-8 minutes faster for any% if I'm reading it right
[2/15/2014 4:46:14 AM] RingRush: are you saying it only costs 5 minutes to get all moves
[2/15/2014 4:46:23 AM] RingRush: at the cost of not being able to pause exit
[2/15/2014 4:49:29 AM] RingRush: like I seriously hope I'm reading this wrong
[2/15/2014 4:54:04 AM] RingRush: I..I'm just baffled
[2/15/2014 4:54:10 AM] RingRush: that you knew about a trick to start with all moves and never mentoined it
[2/15/2014 4:55:23 AM] Exchord: I neglected that trick because it's not useful in any%, how is buying moves supposed to be slower than waiting trhough intro story
[2/15/2014 4:55:37 AM] RingRush: um
[2/15/2014 4:55:47 AM] RingRush: I don't see how any% is longer than 35 minutes
[2/15/2014 4:55:52 AM] RingRush: more like 32 minutes
[2/15/2014 4:55:54 AM] RingRush: with that tric
[2/15/2014 4:55:59 AM] RingRush: if you can learn dk helm early
[2/15/2014 4:56:08 AM] RingRush: which is suddenly worth it to learn since it is at the start of the run and saves 7-8 minutes
[2/15/2014 4:56:22 AM] Exchord: wow