--- Log opened Fri Jul 16 00:55:56 2010
00:55 -!- Irssi: Starting query in Sporks with lstarnes
00:55 <lstarnes> why do you need to know why X was glined?
00:56 <alkali> because
00:56 <alkali> he's an acquaintance of mine
00:56 <alkali> but still
00:56 <alkali> the 'pasting of personal' information
00:56 <lstarnes> if he wants to know, he knows how to contact us and he can tell you about it
00:56 <lstarnes> as for the personal info, it was being spread on other networks
00:57 <alkali> well i mean
00:57 <alkali> i find it curious
00:57 <lstarnes> what he was saying could have damaged sporksnet's reputation
00:57 <alkali> how gewt pastes datechman's address in #sporks
00:57 <alkali> and gewt still has +o and everything
00:57 <lstarnes> I'll make sure that I and the other staff review that
00:57 <alkali> that means
00:58 <alkali> you are going to close this window and do nothing, right?
00:58 <lstarnes> you have my word that I will not
00:58 <alkali> finally someone is doing something
00:58 <alkali> every time i ask AnMaster, it's always a 'sophisticated and creative' method of saying "LOL I DONT KNOW"
00:58 <alkali> and usually when i speak up, i get glined
00:58 <alkali> interesting to see it go differently
00:58 <alkali> thanks, lstarnes
00:58 <lstarnes> go to rwg or Elizabeth
00:59 <alkali> about luke's issue?
00:59 <lstarnes> no, I mean if AnMaster is the only other netadmin around
00:59 <alkali> yeah, gotcha
00:59 <lstarnes> if you're having issues with him, they're the two highest ops
01:00 <alkali> i guess i'll just tell him to go ahead and get ahold of you (him, luke)
01:00 <alkali> do you guys still have a server in chicago?
01:00 <lstarnes> I'm not sure exactly where the servers are located
01:01 <alkali> hmm interesting
01:01 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth then
01:01 <alkali> thanks for.. something.
01:01 <lstarnes> I'm currently alerting the staff about the issue with datechman/gewt
01:02 <alkali> thanks
01:02 <alkali> i suppose if they do anything 'necessary?'
01:02 <alkali> i'll notice via the channel
01:02 <lstarnes> I'll personally make sure that it gets dealt with and I'll let you know about the outcome
01:02 <alkali> thanks
01:03 <alkali> oh also
01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
01:03 <lstarnes> in the meantime, don't bother us about it or it may hamper our investigation
01:03 <alkali> just FYI
01:03 <lstarnes> if we need to know something, we'll ask
01:03 <alkali> like i said
01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
01:03 <alkali> (01:03:15 AM) Luke Chandler: lukeintosh@live.com
01:03 <lstarnes> I saw.
01:03 <alkali> at least you can respect his asking of so, seeing as you want him to ask why he was banned, and not I
01:03 <alkali> but obviously no one has any fucking idea
01:04 <alkali> no real offense meant there
01:04 <lstarnes> I'll consider it tomorrow
01:04 <lstarnes> I'm supposed to be sleeping right now
01:04 <alkali> yeah
01:04 <alkali> great
01:06 <lstarnes> can you give me the exact time and date when gewt posted that info to #sporks?
01:06 <lstarnes> we need to verify some logs
01:07 <alkali> uh
01:07 <alkali> sure
01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> X: 243 Bleu Harbor Court, Perrysburg, Ohio
01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@datechman> gewt: dont push it
01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> Blue*
01:08 <alkali> think it was yesterday
01:08 <lstarnes> which timezone?
01:08 <alkali> that is US CST
01:08 <alkali> so
01:08 <alkali> 9:03 PM
01:08 <lstarnes> which would be 10:03 where I am
01:09 <alkali> yeah
01:09 <alkali> think so
01:09 <alkali> it would be
01:09 <alkali> 22:03
01:09 <alkali> so yes
01:09 <lstarnes> thanks
01:09 <alkali> anything else you need from me?
01:10 <lstarnes> I can't think of anything
01:10 <alkali> cool
01:10 <alkali> let me know
01:10 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth about luke's thing
01:10 <lstarnes> btw, could you please try to avoid saying stuff about searching logs in #sporks?  We don't need people commenting about what staff are doing in a private conversation
01:10 <lstarnes> Elizabeth is the one who set the gline, so she would know more about it
01:11 <alkali> yeah, 'my bad'
01:11 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth if you'd like
01:11 <alkali> since she seems to be the one that knows/does things [anything]
01:12 <lstarnes> I think I've found the matching lines in my logs
01:13 <lstarnes> is that address datechman's actual address?
01:14 <alkali> Yes, it is.
01:18 <lstarnes> actually, it appears that he was demoted from normal-user status in #sporks after the incident
01:18 <alkali> yes he was
01:18 <alkali> and as always, i'm sure he bitched and got it back
01:18 <alkali> because you guys tend to give him anything he wants
01:18 <lstarnes> no, he didn't
01:18 <alkali> why is he +o as of now?
01:19 <lstarnes> because someone must've +o'd everyone who wasn't opped
01:19 <alkali> sure.
01:19 <lstarnes> I am positive about that
01:19 <alkali> well
01:20 <alkali> remember all of those times he took over the channel/network?
01:20 <alkali> and i was /gline'd at least three times, and there he resides.
01:20 <alkali> i find it interesting how this network operates.
01:20 <lstarnes> are you saying that we give gewt special treatment of some sort?
01:20 <alkali> i'd damn sure like to see you come up with some bullshit reason that you don't
01:21 <lstarnes> he was fired as staff for what he did
01:22 <alkali> yeah sure
01:22 <alkali> but he's done it 9080274098723489270489 times
01:22 <alkali> and i got no warnings
01:22 <alkali> and a gline with the message of "LOLS"
01:22 <lstarnes> who set that one?
01:22 <alkali> when i kicked an oper from #sporks for join flooding because it was annoying the fuck out of me
01:22 <alkali> so yes
01:22 <alkali> you guys do give him special treatment
01:22 <alkali> i had a three hour PM with Elizabeth about it
01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
01:23 <lstarnes> Elizabeth and I are considering glining him
01:23 <alkali> init told me, yes
01:23 <alkali> Elizabeth, whatever
01:23 <alkali> but it hasn't happened yet
01:23 <alkali> 01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
01:24 <alkali> and that seems to be a way of
01:24 <alkali> saying something like "stop talking"
01:24 <lstarnes> I'm not saying that
01:24 <alkali> reading between the lines here
01:25 <alkali> and saying things like "leave us alone now so we can investigate"
01:25 <alkali> is like saying "fuck you"
01:25 <alkali> and since none of the opers here seem to know what the others are doing
01:25 <alkali> i'd be surprised to see anything happen, luke being unbanned before his six months, cory being banned, anything
01:25 <alkali> but the only thing i hypothesize is myself being glined again for 'badmouthing the network on the network'
01:27 <alkali> and luke doesn't even get a chance to defend himself or even learn of his ban, and he's gone for six months
01:27 <alkali> i'm honestly surprised i'm still here for even critisizing the way the opers run the network
01:27 <alkali> last time i did that, i got banned
01:27 <alkali> oh yeah
01:27 <alkali> message was
01:27 <alkali> "HORRAY"
01:27 <lstarnes> do you know who set that one?
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--- Log opened Fri Jul 16 00:55:56 2010
00:55 -!- Irssi: Starting query in Sporks with lstarnes
00:55 <lstarnes> why do you need to know why X was glined?
00:56 <alkali> because
00:56 <alkali> he's an acquaintance of mine
00:56 <alkali> but still
00:56 <alkali> the 'pasting of personal' information
00:56 <lstarnes> if he wants to know, he knows how to contact us and he can tell you about it
00:56 <lstarnes> as for the personal info, it was being spread on other networks
00:57 <alkali> well i mean
00:57 <alkali> i find it curious
00:57 <lstarnes> what he was saying could have damaged sporksnet's reputation
00:57 <alkali> how gewt pastes datechman's address in #sporks
00:57 <alkali> and gewt still has +o and everything
00:57 <lstarnes> I'll make sure that I and the other staff review that
00:57 <alkali> that means
00:58 <alkali> you are going to close this window and do nothing, right?
00:58 <lstarnes> you have my word that I will not
00:58 <alkali> finally someone is doing something
00:58 <alkali> every time i ask AnMaster, it's always a 'sophisticated and creative' method of saying "LOL I DONT KNOW"
00:58 <alkali> and usually when i speak up, i get glined
00:58 <alkali> interesting to see it go differently
00:58 <alkali> thanks, lstarnes
00:58 <lstarnes> go to rwg or Elizabeth
00:59 <alkali> about luke's issue?
00:59 <lstarnes> no, I mean if AnMaster is the only other netadmin around
00:59 <alkali> yeah, gotcha
00:59 <lstarnes> if you're having issues with him, they're the two highest ops
01:00 <alkali> i guess i'll just tell him to go ahead and get ahold of you (him, luke)
01:00 <alkali> do you guys still have a server in chicago?
01:00 <lstarnes> I'm not sure exactly where the servers are located
01:01 <alkali> hmm interesting
01:01 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth then
01:01 <alkali> thanks for.. something.
01:01 <lstarnes> I'm currently alerting the staff about the issue with datechman/gewt
01:02 <alkali> thanks
01:02 <alkali> i suppose if they do anything 'necessary?'
01:02 <alkali> i'll notice via the channel
01:02 <lstarnes> I'll personally make sure that it gets dealt with and I'll let you know about the outcome
01:02 <alkali> thanks
01:03 <alkali> oh also
01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
01:03 <lstarnes> in the meantime, don't bother us about it or it may hamper our investigation
01:03 <alkali> just FYI
01:03 <lstarnes> if we need to know something, we'll ask
01:03 <alkali> like i said
01:03 <alkali> (01:02:49 AM) Luke Chandler: Ask lstarnes to add me on MSN
01:03 <alkali> (01:03:15 AM) Luke Chandler: lukeintosh@live.com
01:03 <lstarnes> I saw.
01:03 <alkali> at least you can respect his asking of so, seeing as you want him to ask why he was banned, and not I
01:03 <alkali> but obviously no one has any fucking idea
01:04 <alkali> no real offense meant there
01:04 <lstarnes> I'll consider it tomorrow
01:04 <lstarnes> I'm supposed to be sleeping right now
01:04 <alkali> yeah
01:04 <alkali> great
01:06 <lstarnes> can you give me the exact time and date when gewt posted that info to #sporks?
01:06 <lstarnes> we need to verify some logs
01:07 <alkali> uh
01:07 <alkali> sure
01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> X: 243 Bleu Harbor Court, Perrysburg, Ohio
01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@datechman> gewt: dont push it
01:08 <alkali> 21:03 <@gewt> Blue*
01:08 <alkali> think it was yesterday
01:08 <lstarnes> which timezone?
01:08 <alkali> that is US CST
01:08 <alkali> so
01:08 <alkali> 9:03 PM
01:08 <lstarnes> which would be 10:03 where I am
01:09 <alkali> yeah
01:09 <alkali> think so
01:09 <alkali> it would be
01:09 <alkali> 22:03
01:09 <alkali> so yes
01:09 <lstarnes> thanks
01:09 <alkali> anything else you need from me?
01:10 <lstarnes> I can't think of anything
01:10 <alkali> cool
01:10 <alkali> let me know
01:10 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth about luke's thing
01:10 <lstarnes> btw, could you please try to avoid saying stuff about searching logs in #sporks?  We don't need people commenting about what staff are doing in a private conversation
01:10 <lstarnes> Elizabeth is the one who set the gline, so she would know more about it
01:11 <alkali> yeah, 'my bad'
01:11 <alkali> i'll talk to elizabeth if you'd like
01:11 <alkali> since she seems to be the one that knows/does things [anything]
01:12 <lstarnes> I think I've found the matching lines in my logs
01:13 <lstarnes> is that address datechman's actual address?
01:14 <alkali> Yes, it is.
01:18 <lstarnes> actually, it appears that he was demoted from normal-user status in #sporks after the incident
01:18 <alkali> yes he was
01:18 <alkali> and as always, i'm sure he bitched and got it back
01:18 <alkali> because you guys tend to give him anything he wants
01:18 <lstarnes> no, he didn't
01:18 <alkali> why is he +o as of now?
01:19 <lstarnes> because someone must've +o'd everyone who wasn't opped
01:19 <alkali> sure.
01:19 <lstarnes> I am positive about that
01:19 <alkali> well
01:20 <alkali> remember all of those times he took over the channel/network?
01:20 <alkali> and i was /gline'd at least three times, and there he resides.
01:20 <alkali> i find it interesting how this network operates.
01:20 <lstarnes> are you saying that we give gewt special treatment of some sort?
01:20 <alkali> i'd damn sure like to see you come up with some bullshit reason that you don't
01:21 <lstarnes> he was fired as staff for what he did
01:22 <alkali> yeah sure
01:22 <alkali> but he's done it 9080274098723489270489 times
01:22 <alkali> and i got no warnings
01:22 <alkali> and a gline with the message of "LOLS"
01:22 <lstarnes> who set that one?
01:22 <alkali> when i kicked an oper from #sporks for join flooding because it was annoying the fuck out of me
01:22 <alkali> so yes
01:22 <alkali> you guys do give him special treatment
01:22 <alkali> i had a three hour PM with Elizabeth about it
01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
01:23 <lstarnes> Elizabeth and I are considering glining him
01:23 <alkali> init told me, yes
01:23 <alkali> Elizabeth, whatever
01:23 <alkali> but it hasn't happened yet
01:23 <alkali> 01:23 <lstarnes> I've brought it to the attention of other staff
01:24 <alkali> and that seems to be a way of
01:24 <alkali> saying something like "stop talking"
01:24 <lstarnes> I'm not saying that
01:24 <alkali> reading between the lines here
01:25 <alkali> and saying things like "leave us alone now so we can investigate"
01:25 <alkali> is like saying "fuck you"
01:25 <alkali> and since none of the opers here seem to know what the others are doing
01:25 <alkali> i'd be surprised to see anything happen, luke being unbanned before his six months, cory being banned, anything
01:25 <alkali> but the only thing i hypothesize is myself being glined again for 'badmouthing the network on the network'
01:27 <alkali> and luke doesn't even get a chance to defend himself or even learn of his ban, and he's gone for six months
01:27 <alkali> i'm honestly surprised i'm still here for even critisizing the way the opers run the network
01:27 <alkali> last time i did that, i got banned
01:27 <alkali> oh yeah
01:27 <alkali> message was
01:27 <alkali> "HORRAY"
01:27 <lstarnes> do you know who set that one?
01:27 <alkali> nope
01:27 <alkali> don't care really
01:27 <alkali> i got rwg to get rid of it
01:28 <lstarnes> I'll find out and speak to whoever set it
01:28 <alkali> interesting