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- M269 Ukraine m269 balkans l23 Middle East l51 Spain z2103 caucasus l51 rhone-rhine z2103 steppe
- Los millares l51 links to east e.g. tholoi, importing Near Eastern goods; leyla tepe z2103 links to eastern Anatolia north ubaid period monuments e.g. arslantepe
- Mixture of corded long heads and beaker short heads shows community mixing
- Too much z2103 in Iraq to be explained by Hittites, and can’t be explained by pred. R1a indo-iranians
- Greek meander labyrinth
- El portalon
- Southern Iberia has copper before northern Iberia
- Stelae also in Saudi Arabia
- Corded not descended to Yamnaya (different skull morphology, 100% y dna replacement, different archaeology (e.g. Yamnaya open steppe, corded forest steppe), different pigmentation etc.
- corded ware gaining chg from maykop immigration to ukraine (wave 2 kurgan hypothesis)
- Yamnaya ozera outlier
- Piggyback on the farmers hypothesis, e.g. beakers move into existing farmer communities, bring metallurgy, establish themselves as the elites (via war), assimilate into local culture and take local women (so local admixture)
- Check where tomenable or gerhard says Bell Beakers separate metallurgical elite because of their secret knowledge
- BBs move into and appropriate cultures they come across
- Cord in beaker pottery picked up from corded ware in Rhineland in reflux model
- Taurid dinaric type amongst BBs originally Middle Eastern
- Swastika spread mezin to vinca to halaf/samarra/ubaid
- Euphratic
- low degree of genetic differentiation between non-IE speaking Iron age Iberians and IE-speaking Iron Age Iberians, support the idea of IE language introduction via migrations during the early Iron Age.
- Leila tepe first Caucasian metallurgy, los millares first Western European metallurgy
- Where ever metallurgists existed, they isolated themselves as an elite group as metallurgy knowledge gave them social power
- Los Millares warlike
- Sumerians and Indus Valley Dravidian (word for city in Dravidian is “Ur”). Dravidians = Iranian farmers
- Areni 1
- Gobekli Tepe and oldest wooden statue (shigir statue) in Steppe similarities
- Ubaid social castes r1b=pastoralists
- Vinca ubaid similarities - childe thought ubaid to vinca but vinca older
- Lots of R1b Balkans iron gates
- Copper spread vinca to halaf/samarra/ubaid (and maybe proto writing/figurines)
- Red hair mummies (Egypt, Peru, Armenia)
- Anthropomorphic “kurgan” stelae in caucasus southern France Saudi Arabia comment origin therefore west asian
- M269 diversity Middle Eastern
- L51 earliest split subclade southern French
- Z2103 earliest split subclade Armenian
- Western ie only associated with u152 (Italo celtic, adopted from Hungarian Yamnaya) and germanic (u106, adopted from battle axe). Both adoptions from beaker metallurgical elite domination.
- Anatolian expansion also went across the aegean and across the Adriatic with Minoan and Etruscan (language links both to Anatolian too)
- Bell beakers metallurgical caste-elite, warlike, shows in los millares
- Satemisation took place on the late steppe
- R1b developed in the epigravettian, hence villabruna and iron gates
- Armenia ChL red hair pale skin blue eyes EHG admix signs of this movement of m269
- Why did Western European metallurgy start in southern Spain before e.g. northern spain? Only explainable by mediterranean route
- When l51 moved to the Rhine, when corded ware arrived, triggered migration like volkerwanderung
- Kura araxes migration of z2103 south of caucasus Anatolian + gutian, migration of z2103 north of caucasus = Yamnaya
- Coon brachycephaly Central Europe beaker dolichocephaly Spanish beakers = r1b vs i2 BUT signs of brachycephaly among Spanish elite (i.e. r1b among spanish elite too)
- Z2103 one branch spread across Europe, South Asia, west Asia; another branch entirely limited to west Asia. Also, why so much z2103 in west Asia if only from Indo Iranians (which was mainly r1a)?
- Euphratic?
- m269 two children, l23 and another one that has a mostly balkan presence (i.e. one branch of m269 migrated to Middle East, other remained in balkans)
- Yamnaya and corded ware clearly not l51, so where could l51 have come from but the west?
- If z2103 Middle Eastern, l23 Middle Eastern surely, and so m269 must have migrated to Middle East
- Other similarities between vinca and halaf/samarra/ubaid signs of m269 migration (e.g. figurines)
- Yamnaya closest steppe r1b relative, but close is a relative term as there is at least 2000 years of separation based on y dan phylogeny
- ATP3 Iberia ChL m269?
- Change in brachycephaly from bell beaker to unetice due to admix of corded ware?
- https://i.imgur.com/scFbZpS.png
- https://jpst.it/1tJ-h
- Amerindian swastika, red hair, metallurgy, check email to Japanese, Native American R1b subclades still unknown, spread of pyramids
- Triskelion =r1b v88? same for megalithic culture? spread of framing into iberia (e.g. la almagra) at same time as spread of megalithic culture (i.e. r1b v88 integrated with farmers, same for I2a1a1-M26, this was resurgence of whg ancestry. spread of cattle as below and fact that el trocs were herders).
- The migration of R1b people can be followed archeologically through the presence of domesticated cattle, which appear in central Syria around 8,000-7,500 BCE (late Mureybet period), then in the Southern Levant and Egypt around 7,000-6,500 BCE (e.g. at Nabta Playa and Bir Kiseiba). Cattle herders subsequently spread across most of northern and eastern Africa. The Sahara desert would have been more humid during the Neolithic Subpluvial period (c. 7250-3250 BCE), and would have been a vast savannah full of grass, an ideal environment for cattle herding.
- Evidence of cow herding during the Neolithic has shown up at Uan Muhuggiag in central Libya around 5500 BCE, at the Capeletti Cave in northern Algeria around 4500 BCE. But the most compelling evidence that R1b people related to modern Europeans once roamed the Sahara is to be found at Tassili n'Ajjer in southern Algeria, a site famous pyroglyphs (rock art) dating from the Neolithic era. Some painting dating from around 3000 BCE depict fair-skinned and blond or auburn haired women riding on cows. The oldest known R1b-V88 sample in Europe is a 6,200 year-old farmer/herder from Catalonia tested by Haak et al. (2015). Autosomally this individual was a typical Near Eastern farmer, possessing just a little bit of Mesolithic West European admixture.
- Spread of horse, wheel, carts, chariots, cattle
- Y dna q spread from Central Asia to Middle East, India and North America related to links between Caucasian(q1a/b) & hattic(q1b1), dene-Yeniseian (q1a), and burushaki languages(q1b2). (Consider whether spread into Middle East was from Indo Iranians; also consider spread of y dna R2; consider link to Malta R* boy and Indo-Uralic)
- As for the circumstances, I have explained that pretty well I think - it follows the spread of copper metallurgy and warlike elites. The first copper metallurgy in Western Europe is from Los Millares, which was organised based on caste and often at war with surrounding tribes. Of note too, is that copper metallurgy definitely did not enter SE Spain (the area of Los Millares) from a continental route, as Southern Spain received copper significantly earlier than e.g. Northern Spain. Thus, copper metallurgy necessarily must have made its way to Los Millares across the Mediterranean (the only other alternative being an origin from North Africa, however that seems unlikely as copper metallurgy only existed in the Maghreb much later). And as far as I'm aware without exception, the spread of metallurgy always involves the spread of people, but in any case it is still usually the case, so we have a new people arriving from across the Mediterranean (and as quick evidence of this, Los Millares imported goods from the Middle East and the elites buried themselves in tholoi (West Asian in origin)). The further connections with anthropomorphic stelae, the phylogeny point mentioned, the lack of L51 in Steppe cultures, the fact that L21 and DF27 cannot be clearly associated to any IE language, and the fact that the cultural profile of Los Millares matches what we know of the Beaker folk (warlike, metallurgical elites that readily appropriate pre-existing communities they come across) all add to the theory.
- Not because I saw this beforehand, look where the arrow across the Mediterranean (indicating Beaker origins) traces back to - exactly the region I labelled in my map as L23's Urheimat, and exactly the same region where Leyla-Tepe in the Caucasus was thought to be founded from (i.e. from Eastern Anatolia to Leyla Tepe bringing copper metallurgy - another non-coincidence, Leyla-Tepe had the first metallurgy in the Caucasus). If I haven't made it clear, I'm talking about the arrow that enters Cyprus.
- This isn't about the overall diversity of L51, it's just about looking at the distribution of the very oldest mutations (well well before the great Beaker migrations, so presumably dating to L51's Urheimat). Genetic drift is a definite possibility of course, but I would counter by saying during the Beaker migrations the population was large and growing (I think at least, from looking at the phylogeny and the fact that e.g. in Britain 90% population replacement occurred), which would make genetic drift causing such a distribution as below unlikely (R-Z2118, the joint-oldest mutation from L51 dating to the early 4th millenium BC):
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- It's for the same reason (large population) that looking at maps of e.g. Y DNA U106, L21 or U152 actually tell us something, rather than invalidating all of these maps due to the possibility of the distribution just being caused by genetic drift.
- If, however, the Beaker population was small during the migrations and only began to grow after "settling down", then genetic drift becomes a real possibility (I still think, though, that the distribution over the large area around Southern France and contrasting absence thereof in places like Britain is too marked to be likely caused by drift, as genetic drift is just a matter of "luck" after all). But I doubt the Beaker population was small and at the same time replaced so many populations in such a short period of time.
- On top of this, there is the fact that this point doesn't just stand in isolation - it corroborates with many other points in my hypothesis too (e.g. the large presence of stelae in Southern France and surrounding regions around the West Med., the fact that copper spread to Los Millares from across the Med., the fact that the expansion of Beaker pottery took place from the SW of Europe, the fact that Los Millares is the oldest Western European culture to closely match the cultural traits of the Beaker metallurgical warlike elite folk etc.) So, I think at least, it's unlikely to have come from Eastern Europe. I certainly can't think of a culture to associate it with if it isn't Yamnaya or Corded Ware.
- And about the idea that it's unlikely that L51 and Z2103 could have their Urheimats so far apart despite being sibling subclades under L23, to me it's fine, as for example by the Beaker period of expansion their common ancestor with the Yamnaya men would have been 2000 years in the past. That is plenty of time for one branch of an originally Syro-Anatolian L23 to migrate to the Caucasian Leyla-Tepe (and then to the Steppe, maybe via Maykop), and for another branch of this L23 to migrate across the Mediterranean until hitting South-Eastern Spain. Even if we decide not to associate this with R1b-L23+, the spread of copper metallurgy certainly follows such paths as described, so it isn't unreasonable at all. I mean, Z2103 made it all the way to China during early Yamnaya lol, that distance is far greater than island-hopping across the Mediterranean
- Dialect continuum between indo-iranian, balto-slavic and germanic
- Look at corded ware weapons compared to Yamnaya and Middle East (coon)
- Hurro urartian a migration of NE Caucasians to Armenia to Middle East
- R1b-L23 initially dispersed as smiths & traders who travelled alone and married local women in each region.
- This is why they acquired autosomal DNA of other groups.
- iberian ie and non-ie similar despite different languages
- sea peoples u152
- illyrian related to italo-celtic? same z2103 yamnaya community, perhaps illyrian was the branch of danube yamnaya that become vucedol (likely)
- Seima-Turbino n1c
- r1a l664 elite ruling over globular amphora
- dnieper donets 1 i2a2 WHG from ukraine related to globular amphora increase WHG associated with i2a2? dnieper donets 2 ehg later sredny stog steppe r1a m417 +meshoko proto-corded ware? farmer ancestry I3719 dereivka dnieper donets 2 relevant to globular or to corded? relations of this all to cucuteni tripolye and suvorovo? sredny tripolye GAC transition spread of CW
- interaction between steppe and cucuteni mentioned related to m269 in ukraine following copper metallurgy theory?
- palmela portugal like los millares copper metallurgy, no coincidence its right next to beaker hypothetical origin and vila nova de san pedro
- what was difference between vinca and preceding starcevo?
- hamangia culture stelae? clay figurines like ubaid (and like cucuteni etc.) about hamangia: “Its cultural links with Anatolia suggest that it was the result of a settlement by people from Anatolia, unlike the neighbouring cultures, which appear descended from earlier Neolithic settlement”
- dudesti culture origin of both hamangia and boian, apparently originated in anatolia (catal huyuk, hacilar)? boain + hamangia apparently formed cucuteni (or karanovo??) links to varna later on
- remember to always look for geometric swastika like signs in pottery (e.g. hacilar halaf samarra balkans etc) same link to figurines
- durankulak we see the snake people!
- hamangia had copper?
- hamangia apparently different to neighbouring cultures (see wiki)
- catal huyuk (huyuk=tumulus!!!)
- swastika motif appears in catalhoyuk too
- kamyana mohyla
- iron gates and anatolia pre-farmer link
- hacilar similarities with halaf, figurines again
- pottery red painting (yamnaya too?)
- hacilar is chalcolithic anatolia link between balkans and halaf!
- snake people olympus mons
- about hacilar: “The settlement of level I, dating after 5000 BC, differs significantly from the previous layers, so it is believed that there were newcomers who settled here. The site is now heavily fortified. The pottery is of high quality and is generally painted in red on a cream background.”
- but probably wrong dating as:
- “The upper occupation levels at Hacilar are referred to as “early chalcolithic” and date to about 5400 to 5000 B.C. The architectural and arti- factual yields are considerable and the quantity and quality of the painted pottery is of special importance. During the later part of this period the community seems to have been arranged into a fortress with a massive exterior wall. After about 5000 B.C. Hacilar was abandoned and never re- occupied. “
- Danubian and Linear A script identical!
- links between PIE and old testament
- boars? spondylus hamangia vinca khyvalynsk
- hacilar pottery similar to cucuteni etc.
- kosk hoyuk hacilar catal huyuk similarities around 5300-5000 bc
- catal huyuk controversy
- catal huyuk swastika legit?
- bottleneck between r1b p297 and m269
- i2a2(a1b) link between sredny stog and GAC
- kura-araxes linked to indus valley (and minoan)
- ehg in armenia chl
- WOW: beaker I1388 (gedmatch T122731) from southern france 2300BC has L151, clusters near Basques (so a farmer, not steppe), and HAS NO ANE SO NO STEPPE!
- vucedol z2103 and bell beaker z2103 has most yamnaya signs that yamnaya west was z2103 too, as well as trail of z2103 through danube in modern times
- Gordon Childe interpreted the presence of its characteristic artefact as the intrusion of "missionaries" expanding from Iberia along the Atlantic coast, spreading knowledge of copper metallurgy. Stephen Shennan interpreted the artefacts as belonging to a mobile cultural elite imposing itself over the indigenous substrate populations. Similarly, Sangmeister (1972) interpreted the "Beaker folk" (Glockenbecherleute) as small groups of highly mobile traders and artisans.
- e.g. hacilar, castro vila nova etc., earlier phase (no r1b) unfortified, then comes fortifications and metallurgy
- malta oldest megaliths, also oldest triskelion, reinforces r1b v88 connection
- consider spread of megaliths
- shaft hole axe single burial corded pottery and horses and wagons are signs of CW
- rhine to loire exchange networks grand pressingny flint trade
- brachycephalic beaker folk become more dolichocephalic as they migrated east to places like e.g. hungary, from mixing with e.g. hungarian yamnaya
- is it perhaps possible that the similarities between beaker pottery in the single grave culture (and also the similarities in iberia) are because of an early departure of U106 to the area of the single grave culture? that would explain why beaker-like pottery was there so early (and also the fact that u106 departed phylogenetically from p312 early, and that germanic is from corded ware). grimm’s law in germanic from funnelbeaker influences
- in case it needs mentioning, northern bell beakers (single grave culture) u106, p312 upper rhineland (maybe rhone), l21 goes up rhine and into britain (as per coon), u152 goes east, df27 refluxes back to iberia. volkerwanderung similarity
- single grave culture mainly had influences to its SE (so from denmark to poland roughly along the baltic), explains u106 in unetice (which would be u152)
- revise los millares to vnsp. l23 travels from northern middle east to southern iberia and past gibraltar, colonising southern iberia in general (rather than just se iberia and a spread overland). anthropomorphic stelae in western iberia and not so much in se, very few bell beakers in los millares and of much later date compared to loads in VNSP in portugal. spread then from vnsp in tagus estuary north to castro of zambujal then through douro and then ebro river to barcelona (where the stelae appear, but not in se iberia so cant have spread from there), before travelling along coast from barcelona to southern france to rhône then same story. also l21 went from rhine to britanny.
- for remedello, perhaps it went as follow: southern france to one branch up rhone, another to remedello. then, both converge on upper rhine (rhone through rhone-rhine, remedello through brenner pass) that explains why l51* distribution is heavily in norhtern italy as well as main centre in southern france, but also why there wasnt a big phylogenetic split from a potential splitting of one branch up rhone and another to remedello
- y dna z2103 picked up by u152 (as in hungary, as well as italo-celtic), explains why theres comparatively a lot of z2103 in northern italy (route from hungary to italy = italic)
- remedello i (3300-2800) normal megalithic, remedello ii (2900-2400) intrusion of l51 beaker folk
- dolmens: Most date from the early Neolithic (4000–3000 BC) and were sometimes covered with earth or smaller stones to form a tumulus. use as tumulus mirrors kurgan perhaps, sign of pre-beaker folk?
- basques on jentil: “The giants were believed to have created the neolithic monuments, such as dolmens, found around the Basque Country.
- They also were said to have invented metallurgy and the saw and first grew wheat, teaching humans to farm. However, they were unwilling to move to the valleys from the mountains, with a certain unwillingness to progress.”
- this farmer l151 southern french sample cant be a result of dilution of steppe BBs with farmers, as his WHG is way too high. it instead looks like a dilution of WHG with EEF/ANF
- https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-enPBAk5KhB0/WL8SQKRLAKI/AAAAAAAAVxI/PY_pS6ZaZfUnovGddpRJcFdSHKHjKwEgQCLcB/s1600/Capture.JPG
- mtdna u5a the beaker mtdna compared to mtdna h native megalithic with y dna i2 (paper by roth says not related to corded ware or central euro bell beakers)
- tepe Gawra bell shaped bowls
- eye idols (in los millares) found across middle east e.g. tell brak
- In 1996, Catherine Bréniquet suggested dividing the idols into three types. Type 1, from Tell Brak, known as "eye idols," covers all the small engraved alabaster plaques evoking the upper part of a human body with the face reduced to the eyes and sometimes adorned with jewelry and headdresses. Type 2, the "large idols with spectacles," covers quite large bell- or trumpet-shaped pottery objects with a neck supporting two perforated circles.
- I5757 buried in a dolmen
- The initial moves from the Tagus estuary were maritime. A southern move led to the Mediterranean where 'enclaves' were established in south-western Spain and southern France around the Golfe du Lion and into the Po Valley in Italy, probably via ancient western Alpine trade routes used to distribute jadeite axes. A northern move incorporated the southern coast of Armorica. The enclave established in southern Brittany was linked closely to the riverine and landward route, via the Loire, and across the Gâtinais Valley to the Seine Valley, and thence to the lower Rhine. This was a long-established route reflected in early stone axe distributions, and via this network, Maritime Bell Beakers first reached the Lower Rhine in about 2600 BCE.[4][18]
- ^^ so perhaps route to rhine was from britanny??? or is it rhine to britanny (much better for my hypothesis, fits with y dna l21 perhaps). perhaps related to movement to single grave culture? (like litorid migration map around atlantic)
- From the Carpathian Basin, Bell Beaker spread down the Rhine and eastwards into what is now Germany and Poland. By this, the Rhine was on the western edge of the vast Corded Ware zone.
- ^^ so hungary then bell beaker east, consistent with celtic-italic split
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